WIP: Photoreal horsecart.

[g69]

ok its been a while since i have
posted sumthin off here...
actually, i have been takin my time
off my skool and workin on sum stuff.

this is 1 of the projects.
i was waitin for reply from the person who photographed the scene..
but i think i cudnt get in touch with her.

Photo by: Pigletteus (http://hikletteus.deviantart.com/)

I am trying to achieve photorealism.
[ wish me luck ;) ]

loads & loads of detailing are there to be done....
the wheel tracks (wanna make them to look old,
they aint modeled yet)
plus some chains running down the wheels.
as beenin new to 3D me takin me time experimentin wiv stuff!

oh n C&C welcome!
L8er. . .

[TheOne]

Well the modeling is great! You just got to give it a nice, realistic texture. :p ;) :)

keep us updatet, i cant wait to see it finished. :)

[g69]

Thanx TheOne.

yes i knw as soon as i'm finished with modeling
i will have to work hard on the textures.

lets see how well i do here!
Sure will keep ya'll updated!

Cheers! :D

[g69]

and now the scene...
i juss completed it...

btw, me aint done yet - there are some details
i have to work onn... and then start for
textures.

i hope u like it?

C&C Welcome! :D

[DeadlyFreeze]

me likey

2 thumbs up http://forums.3dtotal.com/images/icons/icon14.gifhttp://forums.3dtotal.com/images/icons/icon14.gif

[g69]

Thanx: DeadlyFreeze :)

[mrc64]

thats very nice, i'd like to see it textured.
What light type are you using, and shadow, in what software and renderer, tanks :)

[g69]

Thanx,
gonna start textures 2nite or maybe 2moro....

i used 3Ds Max.
Rendered with vRay... and the light is VrayLight
vRay shadows!

L8erz

[g69]

ok, done with the texturing...
this is just a simple scanline render with default lights...

this is what i started with :D

[g69]

and here is final render...
loads of C&C welcomed :)

[JHarford]

beautifull work !! , a little more on the lighting and this will be a lovely image . also youve done a good job with the textures

[MattyG]

I like it its wonderful work but the only thing that doesn't look photoreal to me is the tire I dunno like either the tread sticks out too much or is too blocky I can't quite put a finger on it.Good job texturing also.

[g69]

Thanks CGstripe...
texturing need some more tweaking...
the rest i think is all good. :)

[g69]

Originally posted by MattyG
I like it its wonderful work but the only thing that doesn't look photoreal to me is the tire I dunno like either the tread sticks out too much or is too blocky I can't quite put a finger on it.Good job texturing also.


yup the tire tread looks ugly...
i was thinking of adding a noise modefier before actually
bending it...
or maybe a nice strong bump map would do the trick.

Thanx for the sweet comments

[sarN]

despite the cog wheels it looks beautiful :) You scared me for a minute when i saw that scanline, but the real render looks great :)

[g69]

Thanx sarN...
ROFL - u thought the scanline was my photoreal?
hahaha

thanx sarN... i am gonna work on the threads again! :)

[g69]

just fixed the thread...
Loads of crits are welcomed...
plus, any comments on improving the threads?

ps. these are just low renders.

PIC - 1

[g69]

PIC - 2:

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PIC - 3:

[MattyG]

I like the new thread maybe meshsmooth it or just put some smoothing groups on but other than that its amazing!

[g69]

Thanx, yup gonna try smooth groups...
plus need to fix up the textured as well!

[Drizzt]

me like it

[Androgs]

wow, that's nice:) , nearly photorealistic, I think you can work more with that tire, maybe add some dirty?:) .Good job anyway.
keep it up buddy:D .

[g69]

Originally posted by Androgs
wow, that's nice:) , nearly photorealistic, I think you can work more with that tire, maybe add some dirty?:) .Good job anyway.
keep it up buddy:D .

Thanx for the comments, yeah i am gonna work on the dirt
but 2moro, i need to get some sleep now!

here is one more, before i colapse!

L8er...

[g69]

alright, i am done with the treads (tires & Materials)
and whole scene itself.
any crtics anyone?

L8er :)

[deejaysoup]

It looks good. You should submit it to the finished artwork forum.

[Eric_Cartman]

Make it dirty.

[g69]

deejaysoup: Thanx dude. :) sure will do that
Eric_Cartman: now thats a nice idea :D

Thanx me gonna do that now!

[MattyG]

W....O.....W.....o.O

[g69]

Originally posted by MattyG
W....O.....W.....o.O

Thanx :D
wait for more. . .

[g69]

small update:

i need crtics please...

[Androgs]

looks good:) , my only crits is the texture on the board that above the tire ( I don't know how to call it:o ) is too assured.

[g69]

Originally posted by Androgs
looks good:) , my only crits is the texture on the board that above the tire ( I don't know how to call it:o ) is too assured.

hmmm - i dont know the name either, ive named it ArmRest-Left/ Right in max (lol)

anyways, yeah i think it looks stupid there...
i had fixed it...but i dont know didnt show up in my finalrender :(

ill try re-applying it.

oh n btw.... check me wire :D

[tobes]

It looks like you used the same material for the floor as you did for the wall.. which makes the floor's tiles look stretched. Maybe set the bump to a higher value even?

I like everything else tho! :D

[g69]

ok here is somthing i worked 2day...
i had to redo the whole dust texturing as me HD crashed...
and i bought in a new PC

anyways...
here is a real quick of my progress so far...
this time i rendered the scene with DOF..

lots of C&C welcome...

[g69]

Originally posted by tobes
It looks like you used the same material for the floor as you did for the wall.. which makes the floor's tiles look stretched. Maybe set the bump to a higher value even?

I like everything else tho! :D

thanks for ponting me out the problem i had on my tiles
i just reduced the bluring on the materials...

and yeah its the same material i used on the walls..
actually the photo i am using as a referance has huge tiles
which are same as on the walls...

mine aint as good as it though.

[Marcia]

Wow, this looks really good. Minor nits: the fender (arm rest) looks better, but I wonder if the wood texture isn't a bit large, considering what the scale of the fender would be relative to planed wood... I could be wrong, of course; that's just how it strikes me. The other thing is that there is no grain at all on the shafts, but they don't look painted, either.

I really like this; it's not your typical 3D transportation.

[g69]

Originally posted by Marcia
Wow, this looks really good. Minor nits: the fender (arm rest) looks better, but I wonder if the wood texture isn't a bit large, considering what the scale of the fender would be relative to planed wood... I could be wrong, of course; that's just how it strikes me. The other thing is that there is no grain at all on the shafts, but they don't look painted, either.

I really like this; it's not your typical 3D transportation.

Thanx Marcia... hmmm actually the wood is tilled up..
ill try reducing the tiles and give it a try...
or maybe edit it out in photoshop so that it takes up the shape
of the wood..

and btw, what shaft are you talking about?

[Marcia]

The shafts, the long pieces of wood that go on either side of the horse, that hitch him to the cart. But now that I study it more closely, I can see that there's strong light on the forward part of the shafts, so you probably wouldn't see the wood grain anyway, and also that it's subtly visible in the shadow... so I'm un-picking that nit. I must have been cross-eyed earlier. ;)

[g69]

Originally posted by Marcia
The shafts, the long pieces of wood that go on either side of the horse, that hitch him to the cart. But now that I study it more closely, I can see that there's strong light on the forward part of the shafts, so you probably wouldn't see the wood grain anyway, and also that it's subtly visible in the shadow... so I'm un-picking that nit. I must have been cross-eyed earlier. ;)

oh ok now i get what you were saying...
Yup its the light - you can see it on my previous renders
the wood material is there... but on this new render it looks
as if its not there due to the light
i was thinking of lowering the light or maybe darkening the texture.

thanx for the comments :)

[Androgs]

Cool:) , so what next?

[g69]

Originally posted by Androgs
Cool:) , so what next?

hmmmmm nice question :)
thinking of some more bolts and metal details on the
front shaft

and some more chains :D hehehe not sure though
n yeah - some chinese characters on the door
and some wire box on the wall

Watch out for more...

[mmiller]

This is comming along nicely
I'd try working you metal textures so that they contrast more with the wood.
Some of the wood could use a little more "character" as well

I love all that warm light reflecting off the door :cool:
Mark

[g69]

Originally posted by mmiller
This is comming along nicely
I'd try working you metal textures so that they contrast more with the wood.
Some of the wood could use a little more "character" as well

I love all that warm light reflecting off the door :cool:
Mark

Thanx for the comments and the suggestion...
sorry had been busy with college stuff...
anways wanted to post this... but i had been having problems
accessing Threedy.com :(

anywayz here it goes...
i added some bolts to the front logs... and replaced the front chain
darkened the wood & metal textures a bit...
and adjusted the light....

lemme know what you all think?

L8ers...

http://www.g69.greatnow.com/renders/_HTextFixFinal01.jpg

[mmiller]

g69
Not sure about anyone else
but I'm just getting a red X
Mark

[g69]

Originally posted by mmiller
g69
Not sure about anyone else
but I'm just getting a red X
Mark

ok lowered the image... here it goes:

[Marcia]

I really like the quality of light and the contrasty shadows. This is coming along nicely!

[mmiller]

g69
Very nice
I think this last image is somewhat stronger than the previous versions. I like the harsh light and all the strong shadows.
But, I miss all that refected light off the door ;)

Actualy I'm not so sure Better is the right word
more like different.
Marcia sound familiar? :)

Mark

[el_crni]

beautiful work man, keep it up,

what render u used?

[g69]

first off... thanx to all of you folks who took time to comment
on my last render...
usually people dont comment as they should..
thread hits are above 1000 and posts are only 50
(now thts sad)

mmiller: Thanx man...
i had to reduce the reflection off the door...
it looked wierd, as i had pulled the cart front and
paned the camera back... it looks better now, dont it?

el_crni: Thanx man, i use vRay - my fav. renderer. :D


i think ive spent enough time on this one now...
i am thinking of finishing this off and
starting off with sumthing new...
plus my bmw x5 is still waiting

Thanx once again...
L8er.

[Marcia]

Originally posted by mmiller
g69
Actualy I'm not so sure Better is the right word
more like different.
Marcia sound familiar? :)

Mark

LOL... ooooooooh, vaguely.

and so does g69's desire to get on with something else. ;)

[mmiller]

i had to reduce the reflection off the door...
it looked wierd, as i had pulled the cart front and
paned the camera back... it looks better now, dont it?
G69
Like I said - somewhat better
but to me the earlier images are so much different than this last render that it's difficult to compare them.

The first ones were about light and color
Bright, hot, colorful
the mood was entirly different.

the second is more about shapes and shadows.
Another very nice image
It just feels entirely different to me.
well, that's how I see it anyways.

sometimes we move ahead - sometimes sidewise
It's not a bad thing :)
but, i think you are right - time to move on.

good job
mark

[g69]

Thanx for such nice comments Mark! :D

[Eric_Cartman]

Bottom tiles don't look convincing. I would model them if I were you.

[g69]

finished this model...

check my link:
FINISHED (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16764)