WIP: A Russian Isu-225 tank

[bullethead]

I know its a little to early in the stage to post the 3d pics of this but I need help with something that is really annoying me. I deleted a couple polys cause they were unnecasary and made the model look ugly replaced em with a single poly. But when I did that it shows the new poly in the perspective viewport but not in the top view and its a tad annoying. Does anyone know how to fix this?

[ElricMoroe]

I could be wrong but check the normals and see which way they are facing for that face. I have run into this before and found that the normal was facing the opposite direction of the other faces. You might also check to see if double sided faces is turned off.

[bullethead]

OH GOD...*smacks self in head*yes force 2 sided was on in the perspective viewport. I cant belive I didnt check to see if that was the problem before posting here...anyways...next post will be with more details added.

[bullethead]

Whoops...realized the name is wrong for the tank...its a Russian Isu-152 tank...my bad.

[bullethead]

Ok..well I got a new pic with some new details added. And Im having a problem. Youll see by the arrows what I mean. Ive been trying to delete the faces and then creating new ones but they end up looking the same as before. Could someone help with that plus C&C IS HIGHLY APPRECIATED!!...lol

[bullethead]

and heres the tank im modeling

http://www.missing-lynx.com/gallery/russia/fkisu152-5.jpg

[ignanacho]

I can be wrong but i think that all the vertices have to be in the same plane. try picking up the four vertices and making them planar.

[Vitor]

That happens due to the faces smoothgroups.
Are you going to model it without using Meshsmooth? Because if you are going to use meshsmooth you don't have to care about smoothgroups.

[bullethead]

There are going to be parts I use meshsmooth. But not on the whole thing.

[bullethead]

*whipes sweat off brow* whew...thank god I save an earlier copy of this tank cause I just noticed I messed up majorly in the back end and nothing lines up. So this is more of a mess up update more then a good new stuff added update. Next update will be with a crap load of detail...will be in a couple days or so, so hang on to your diapers...lol

[Dedalo]

Looking good, keep working.

[bullethead]

Ok...heres an update...its nothing much. Just threw in some fake GI to make this render look pretty..lol..added the drums in the back end...added the hatch in the back as well...you cant see it that good but its there...and I started adding the hatches on the top you can tell by the purple colors and stuff...well here it is.

[bullethead]

No crits....*starts to run away and cry* :cry:

[Drizzt]

don't you think that render is kinda dark:p Do something with your GI and make it brighter and maybe someone will criticise this coz on this one you can't see nothing exceprt lots of dark.

[bullethead]

K...will try to get a new render in a couple minutes

[bullethead]

Inbetween the ferrari in other things I found time to start work on this again...so heres a new render

(LINK REMOVED DUE TO TRANSFER LIMIT PASSED EXCEEDED LIMIT)

[bullethead]

Last update for the night. I added the top wheels and the back spoke and started work on the suspension. C&C welcomed

(LINK REMOVED DUE TO TRANSFER LIMIT PASSED EXCEEDED LIMIT)

[Aichi-Val]

i like the level of detail u have on it, though the tower needs alot of work

[bullethead]

Thanks a bunch for the reply and crit...greatly appreicated. Yup I tottaly agree on the tower. see not everything is the same on both sides so I cant work on the tower untill im done with everything that can be cloned. So that leaves tweaking the tread wheels and making the treads then tweaking part of the back area and modeling the bottom part. Im just love 3d. This has to be one of the best things ive done so far. Again thnx for the comment.

[bullethead]

oh yeaaahhhhhhh....treads are done. the inside part isnt but the heavy meat part is...lol..C&C please

EDIT: Yes I know there are RED X's. I exceeded 5mb of transfer limit from my host once everything goes down they should be good

EDIT2: Just click the link!!!

EDIT3: link removed

[bullethead]

Pictures fixed. Click above link

[bullethead]

No replies guys? why not. are there any comments or suggestions on what I can do to improve on the model??? I just find it odd that my data transfer limit was passed because tons of people were looking at my pics yet no one is replying. please post anything, If you dont like it then say so but give a reason why and how I can make you like it.

[bullethead]

Well Ok...I figured you guys dont like to comment unless a picture is right there in front of you..so fine...I finally got my transfer limit back and here is the tank...PLEASE PLEASE C&C ON IT!!!! Im begging you. I would like to know what to do better.


http://home.ripway.com/2004-3/84992/Russian%20Isu-152%20WIP/ISU-152wip1.jpg

[ignanacho]

I think it looks good but needs a lot of work yet. The wheels are ok but I think that the chain (i don't know how tio call them) are to tight, they don't look like the picture where the top ones aren't so tight.

[bullethead]

woo...for a second there I didnt know what the hell you were talking about...but I know what you mean now...and I will be fixing that, thanks a bunch for pointing that out. greatly appreciated.

[Ferry P]

nice details on the caterpillar...now put the same amount of details in the rest of the tank and it will rock with his pants down!:p

you're doing great!

[g69]

details lookin amazing,
love the threads!

lookin forward for more!

[bullethead]

:dance: 5 stars wOOt!!!!! :dance: *starts to cry for this wonderful sight* Thanks all..I will keep trying to make this an awesome tank, and when its done it will have an awesome scene to go with it as well. Ill try to have an update as soon as possible

[bullethead]

Ok the bodys whole underside is down now. Although you really cant see it in this pic:o I also have a renderd wireframe as well. If there is a specific part of the tank you guys wanna see then let me know and Ill get it done for oyu.

[bullethead]

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[bullethead]

OK.....cgstripe has asked for differnt views and a shaded wire in msn messanger so I shall provide.first is the shaded wire

[bullethead]

top view and perspective underside.

http://home.ripway.com/2004-3/84992/Russian%20Isu-152%20WIP/ISU152topview.jpg

http://home.ripway.com/2004-3/84992/Russian%20Isu-152%20WIP/ISU152punderside.jpg

[JHarford]

nice work man :D .
wouldnt like to be the guy to chamfer it all for smoothing :o
getting on well , hope you finish this one :D .

[Grifty_Mcgriff]

an excellent tank i can see coming along. casnt wait to see it textured. well done!:D

[bullethead]

Another update...wOOt!!! lol This post wouldnt have been succesful without the Help from TMNI. He gave me tips on how to make the 2 handle bars near the top that you see, and plus ive created the rubber guards in the front of the tank...not a major update but it brings more life to the tank and to show you guys im still working on this bad boy. If you wanna see differnt views of the tank please ask I will provide.

http://www.milwaukeeadson2000.com/Project%20New%20Age/images/ISU-152WIP.jpg

[bullethead]

Well I shouldnt have posted that last update because there will still some things I could have done before I did so. well anyways. I remember someone said the treads looked to tight so I made it look like they are looser. plus I updated the front pads up a bit. so here we go. Remember, if there is a certain angle you would like to see that would help you crit then please dont be afraid to ask Ill gladly get more pics. As well...C&C is appreciated.

http://www.milwaukeeadson2000.com/Project%20New%20Age/images/ISU-152WIP2.jpg

[bullethead]

You know...I find this moment I had really funny. I remember reading a thread in here awhile ago I belive started by clawda, and it was about a car subforum. And in there he was complaining because no one gets recognition in the inorganic forums unless they make cars.

Well Im making a tank and have posted up 2 new updates....yet...there is no reply. I belive I am doing a real good job on this tank and I could still use some tips and pointers yet no one replies except for my mates that ive asked too. I mean is the tank REALLY that bad or is it just because its not some sweet ferrari, porche, or bmw???? blah...so frustrated right now..oh well. I will still continue to post updates..since it seems im doing fine without anyones help. and if no one replies I dont give a crap anymore.

[MIND-breaker]

well i think it looks great.. noone replies my threads at all so hehe.. okey ehm.. i guess u are not finished with the top of the model because its all just like a box there..but i love the bottom.. its nicely deetailed and really it looks like the concept.. hope ull get along pritty good

[g69]

Originally posted by bullethead
You know...I find this moment I had really funny. I remember reading a thread in here awhile ago I belive started by clawda, and it was about a car subforum. And in there he was complaining because no one gets recognition in the inorganic forums unless they make cars.

Well Im making a tank and have posted up 2 new updates....yet...there is no reply. I belive I am doing a real good job on this tank and I could still use some tips and pointers yet no one replies except for my mates that ive asked too. I mean is the tank REALLY that bad or is it just because its not some sweet ferrari, porche, or bmw???? blah...so frustrated right now..oh well. I will still continue to post updates..since it seems im doing fine without anyones help. and if no one replies I dont give a crap anymore.

TOTALLY AGREE MAN!!! I THINK THERE ARE TONS OF CAR MODELERS OUT HERE.... this mite be a reason...

anyways lets get back to ur tank...
its amazing - u have really put in some nice work into the treads! its an excellent detail...
the only thing tht is bugging me is the top... is that the way it should be? coz according to me, its a bit weird (well i dont really know much bout tanks so dont mind my comment)

and 1 more thing man, u doing a nice job... ur modeling is really good!
dont be bothered if no1 replies to your scene!


Keep it up - waiting for this one...
its gonna be massive! :D

PS. dont u think tht top has some nice sharp edges?
try chamfering it, amount to 10, 20 so that you have some nice smooth edges

[claWda]

Originally posted by bullethead
You know...I find this moment I had really funny. I remember reading a thread in here awhile ago I belive started by clawda, and it was about a car subforum. And in there he was complaining because no one gets recognition in the inorganic forums unless they make cars.

Well Im making a tank and have posted up 2 new updates....yet...there is no reply. I belive I am doing a real good job on this tank and I could still use some tips and pointers yet no one replies except for my mates that ive asked too. I mean is the tank REALLY that bad or is it just because its not some sweet ferrari, porche, or bmw???? blah...so frustrated right now..oh well. I will still continue to post updates..since it seems im doing fine without anyones help. and if no one replies I dont give a crap anymore.

hey man :) yes it was started by me, and I understand your frustration yes noone does anything about it and there are several more artists like this...I expreienced this with my game scene, although that was in game art...

anyway, no man, your tank is cool, I love everything except for that blocky top, but I guess this is still just WIP

don't be discouraged by people not replying, and most important, don't take it personal cause I've seen one too many skilled artists pass by unnoticed

[Androgs]

:) man..take it easy, you already doing a good job.:D

[MIND-breaker]

well i hope ull post something new soon.. like how its been going.. myself im going to post all my sketches for my hallway! so good luck to you and the tank

[Nappa]

Originally posted by bullethead
You know...I find this moment I had really funny. I remember reading a thread in here awhile ago I belive started by clawda, and it was about a car subforum. And in there he was complaining because no one gets recognition in the inorganic forums unless they make cars.

Well Im making a tank and have posted up 2 new updates....yet...there is no reply. I belive I am doing a real good job on this tank and I could still use some tips and pointers yet no one replies except for my mates that ive asked too. I mean is the tank REALLY that bad or is it just because its not some sweet ferrari, porche, or bmw???? blah...so frustrated right now..oh well. I will still continue to post updates..since it seems im doing fine without anyones help. and if no one replies I dont give a crap anymore.

Well its not just you i think i get like one post per thread i start 2 post is the highest i ever got and i was modeling a mini gun. anyway are you going to make a interior seeing how theres a hole in all

[kribz]

i know what u guys mean, i totally agree with u, the tank looks fine to me, keep going...:)
/kribz

[bullethead]

Wow. Thanks everyone for the replies. Now to answer questions.

G-69: Chamfering will be done when the little details that are needed for the top are done.

Nappa: I really didnt think about making the interior. I guess if I can find enough refernces I think I could do so and if my computer allows me too..lol...We will just see how well the final image of the tank looks first then Ill decide on that.

Everyone: Thanks for the encourging replies. This gives me even more reason to finish this now. I unfortunatly havent had much time to work on the tank lately so Ive only been able to box out the cannon system. When I am fully finished with the cannon I will make an update. Till then thanks again for the replies.

[jawahar]

hey nice work on the tank so far man.i think the treads could be a little thicker and champhered around the edges.waiting for updates :D