Messerschmitt BF 109 E

[Eira30]

Here is what I have so far. I will keep you updated.

Eira

[Eira30]

And the seat. I am going to model the entire interior of the cockpit. Plus working aeralons and flaps, and rudder, trim, and propeller, landing gear. I want to do my first animation with my Mabel character, and do some flight scenes, with lots of interior shots, and wing mounted camera shots. Comments and crits always welcome.

Eira

[Eira30]

Update. Just getting the general layout of the cockpit done. Tomorrow, foot pedals, and trim wheel, and the dashboard.

Eira

[Eira30]

Control stick. This should be a challenge, there are all sorts of wires and button assemblies on the control stick.

Eira

[Eira30]

Not much of an update, but an update none the less.

Eira

[tyio]

cool model ;)


allé, up :D

[Helix]

Great model, I've been wanting to make one of these for awhile now. Where are you getting your reference for the cockpit?

[Eira30]

Thanks Helix. I have a pdf of the original pilots and maintenance manuals, with loads of great pics. I also have about 300 color pictures of restored BF 109's from museums and stuff. I spent about a week researching and finding pics and technical data.

Eira

[g69]

Originally posted by Eira30
Thanks Helix. I have a pdf of the original pilots and maintenance manuals, with loads of great pics. I also have about 300 color pictures of restored BF 109's from museums and stuff. I spent about a week researching and finding pics and technical data.

Eira

the seat is awesome!
would love to see more...
keep us posted :)

[bunglo]

I love this model, I really like the interier so fare. Keep it up:cool:

[Goig!]

Looks good so far; I see a couple things that seem to need correction though.
First the nose cross-section doesn´t look good, too bulky, it needs more tappering on the top, I´m including a gif that has some cross-sections that may be useful. Truth be told that´s one of the worst blue prints I have of this plane, it´s too small; I have a set of drawings for the Bf-109G that would knock your socks off :cool:
Second, the control stick doesn´t look at all like the real thing, perhaps it´s still in a very early WIP state, but the hand-grip of this plane was quite ergonomical, it looked very modern compared to other planes of the era, almost like a modern joystick; I have some pictures and drawings of it if you want them I can e-mail them to you.

[mmiller]

Looks good so far
Nice to see you are going for the details

here's a link to the most acurate 109 plans I've seen
http://www.kiwifood.co.nz/

HTH
Mark

[kribz]

nice work! keep going:)
/kribz

[Eira30]

mmiller....thanks for the link, but I could not open the files after download. But thanks anyways.

kribz....Thanks, I should have an update tomorrow.

Eira

[Eira30]

Here is my reference pic.

[Eira30]

Here is the top of the control stick. Still working on it.

Eira

[bunglo]

The joy stick looks great so fare.

[antoine]

Know you're still working on it, just don't forget the button on the left side.

Looks excellent so far, and are u planning to mesh smooth the plane?

[Eira30]

Side trigger button assembly. Still more to do.

Eira

[Goig!]

Good, just don´t forget to bend the grip at the end.

[Eira30]

Update.

[Eira30]

Another update. Any comment and crits welcome. Thanks Goig!, Antoine, and Bunglo.

Eira

[Eira30]

another view.

[Eira30]

Update.

[bunglo]

Sweet! Is that the texture or just the color (is it dark green or grey green?)

[Eira30]

No textures yet. Colour is R:183 G:183 B:183, spec 40, Gloss 20. Three point lighting, fill light: Multiplier 0.5 colour R:251 G:226 B:181, shadows off, Backlight: Multiplier 0.5 colour R:255 G:255 B:255, shadows off, Key Light: Multiplier 0.5 colour R:158 G:164 B:236, shadows on, shadow map, Bias 0.8 Size 1024 Sample Range 12.0. Working on right side wall now, later foot pedals.

Eira

[g69]

looking great....just cant wait to see more :D

[bunglo]

Thanks for the color info, I like it :) Now, how will you b "painting" it? Tropical or Sta.Kap, I like Sta.Kap better.

[Eira30]

g69 more coming tomorrow. Bunglo, I think I am going to do the Ska.Kap paint pattern, I don't like the dessert ones that much.

Eira

[Eira30]

update.

[kribz]

still looks good!...i predict a massive polycount for this scene;)

[bunglo]

I agree about the pattern. Keep updating :)

[Eira30]

All I have to say is FATAL WHAT? F*** FORGOT TO SAVE!!!!!!!! Had the instrument panel almost done, and then......Max has encounter a problem and needs to close, the project you are working on may not be saved! Oh so frustrating, so remmeber people, save, save, save your work! I will post updates soon.

Eira

[bunglo]

That sucks! I hate it when that happens (although I have never work on a project yet, it still sucks) I save after every "moderate" update, so I don't loose everything. Hope the controll panal comes out better for you.

[novoAlias]

heh yea i hate it wen that happens, the only good thing is its way faster the next time :) and generally cleaner aswell...

[Helix]

Eira,

Yeah, I've lost a bit of stuff from max crashes too ;(. The thing I've learned to do is in the preferences menu goto the file tab and find the "Increment on save" box. Check it and then just control s periodically. It saves much time and does a nice organized file timeline in a folder ;) The only drawback is that it doesn't automatically rollover into the hundreds when you get into large amounts of saves but once you name it "something_100" It will keep going 101, 102, 103...

There is also that box in the save menu that is supposed to do the same thing, in my experience I have found it to be buggy in R5 and below. Not sure about 6. It corrupted my files ;( I can't recommend it but the method above works great.

Helix

[Helix]

I also wanted to add that your model is turning out quite excellent from what I can see. I've wanted to do a ME-109 for quite some time. I'm starting a P-51 today, in fact. What is your method of working for a project as complicated as this? More specifically, because of the complexitity of the scene how do you plan for materials and textures? Do you plan it all out or along the way? Or do you go back when your all done modleing and assign textures or MatIDs and such? This I have not quite mastered within the Max Mat Editor. I've tried using one or several Multi-subobject materials but still they can get quite large and difficult to work with IMO. What do you or anyone else think?

I'm just wondering how your going to handle texturing with such a complex model. ;) Again great model, love the planes.

Helix