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CineReal
19-04-2004, 09:04 AM
Short work, I have started to draw the moose, which sit on my monitor. ;)


http://cinereal.shellmaster.de/artwork/3d/elch01.jpg

http://cinereal.shellmaster.de/artwork/3d/elch01_wire.jpg

... how should I make him sweeter? :haha:

RodrigoRosa
19-04-2004, 01:07 PM
funny model dude... :p to make him sweeter, make a funny/comical texture

CineReal
20-04-2004, 08:20 AM
Ok, lets make sweet :D little update

USED
20-04-2004, 08:24 AM
looks good.. nice little elk..
how ever this is in the wrong part of the forum I think, your making the toy that you have sitting on your monitor right? that would be an inorganic model right?
you can ask one of the mods to move it for you...

CineReal
20-04-2004, 11:08 AM
Ups, don't know... but I think an elk is an organic work, perhaps a bit comic like but I can't find a real one :???: really don't know... when a moderator read this, he can decide...

thanks for comments :)

RodrigoRosa
20-04-2004, 12:13 PM
keep working on the texture... and i would put a symbol on his shirt (on the front and back)

keep us updated

cheers

secobb
20-04-2004, 12:23 PM
There is one Major problem with your work . . . . its a moose not an elk the picture below is an elk. It just needs to be renamed.

CineReal
21-04-2004, 07:33 AM
oh, sorry! I believed an elk is the same as a moose, because in Switzerland we call them "elch"... sounds like elk :crazy: . But is an elk the same as a deer?

I'm really :crazy:

I rename the title

Chris-3DT
21-04-2004, 07:48 AM
in fact moose and elk are synonyms.

In Europe the word elk is more commonly used than moose, which is more widely in use in Northern America.

Trisman
21-04-2004, 10:04 AM
lol the very first pic looks like "das kleine arschloch" :D :D :D (i think all germans know what i mean the otherones forget it!;) )

secobb
22-04-2004, 09:27 AM
Hey there im not sure about the names people use in Europe But in north america this is what we call these antlered animals

olympus
22-04-2004, 09:46 AM
Nice character :), I like the cartoony style. One suggestion, try detaching the horns, then bring the skin up around it.

The deer family includes: moose ; elk, wapiti ; Canadian elk, caribou ; reindeer, and, of couse, deer. The pictures secobb labeled moose can in fact be called either moose or elk, moose being the most common name. The pictures secobb labeled elk are Canadian elk (this type is quite common here on the western coast of the USA. BTW most of this is according to a visual dictionary I have (published in 1986).

secobb
22-04-2004, 07:23 PM
Originally posted by olympus
One suggestion, try detaching the horns , then bring the skin up around it.

if we are going to nitpick about correct terminology you shouldn’t use the term horns because horns are made out of hair (cows) and all the animals in those pictures have antlers which are made out of bone. Also the family name is not deer it is Cervidae. And the only name for elk in english elk, its not canadian elk or moose, the native americans call them wapiti.

olympus
22-04-2004, 08:45 PM
the topic was the difference/similarity and possible synonymity of "moose" and "elk" ("deer" just happens to be the common name of the family

horns are not made out of hair; they are however made out of protein, very similar in structure to that of the human fingernail (which is more distantly similar to that of hair)

the attached image is the source of verification for my previous post (this is from The Facts on File Visual Dictionary, written by Jean~Claude Corbeil and published by a Quebec publishing house)

whatever, elk or moose it doesn't matter.

LittleFish
22-04-2004, 08:53 PM
horns or antlers?

http://www.britannica.com/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=horn (www.britannica.com/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=horn)

re: sweet _____

1. it may be interesting if you rig this character
2. the texturing is very plastic. if the moose/elk is in this manner, good. you may also want to experiment with a more cloth like shader for his clothes
3. three-point lighting? the outline of the character is very nicely defined.

secobb
23-04-2004, 06:38 AM
CineReal - I would like to see a cell shader on him. That would bring out the toony modeling style.

olympus - Maybe some Canadians call an elk a moose, but i have been hunting up there dozens of times and i have never heard them called that. The scientific name for the deer family is Cervidae. Saying that these animals are in the deer family is like saying mans best friend is in the dog family. While the statement is true, it is not scientifically accurate, they are of the family canine. Just like saying our antlered friends are from the family deer, it is not scientifically accurate they are in the Cervidae family. And you are incorrect, horns are made up of hair like structures (those are made up of keratin) It is the hair that is made of keratin. I grew up on a ranch and I have been bow hunting elk since i was 14 years old, you are the first person (in North America) who i have ever heard call an elk a moose. Your information is from a book that was published a decade ago, look on the internet and you will find nowhere someone calling an elk a moose.

This picture is last falls elk. I shot it with a recurve bow from about 30 yards. (wooden arrows)

CineReal
23-04-2004, 10:35 AM
Thanks for your biology instruction ;)

I didn't have many time, so I only added a "C" on the shirt.

:D here you have a cell shader one...

I think it looks sh... not very good, but I don't know why :roll:
I tried to render it with different color gradations...

rubberduck
23-04-2004, 04:43 PM
Cute little guy, looks good with the toonshader:)

Chris-3DT
23-04-2004, 08:41 PM
Originally posted by secobb
"[...] look on the internet and you will find nowhere someone calling an elk a moose."

go to dictionary.com to find out that you are wrong ;)

however, can we settle this and move on to this cute little guy? perhaps we should call him "Elmoo", hmm? Or spanish: El Moo!

secobb
24-04-2004, 07:37 AM
Just look at the majority of sites on the internet, anyway im not going to waste anymore of my time trying to convince people who don’t live around these animals to what there called.