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Profane
16-06-2004, 03:28 AM
here is my new project ..a greek mask.
the project is about creating the two typical greek masks of the ancient greek theatre.So there will be two masks,the first one will have a 'happy' expression...you know the big smile and the other one will have a sad expression....(just type greek masks on google pic search).So i'm looking for 'serious' crits
this is just the first step (a couple of hours of modelling into maya)....tho i have a lot of work to do on that....
Profane
16-06-2004, 03:29 AM
smoothed one
Profane
16-06-2004, 03:30 AM
front one
Profane
19-06-2004, 12:46 AM
some updated version....
Profane
19-06-2004, 12:47 AM
front side
Profane
19-06-2004, 12:48 AM
and as usual the smoothed one...
(i'm looking for crits....)
You ain't got any reply yet so I'll be the first...
With the first look at your model I find the face to narrow for a typical head/mask. You should try to stretch it more into the width.
Your mesh could also need some fine-tuning. I see unnecessary lines here and there and the overall meshflow is not optimal - especially around the mouth and the nose. There are some examples for good meshflows in the forum... for example kuman's samurai or yakuza_boss and his cyber female
Profane
19-06-2004, 07:41 AM
...about the narrowness of the face i think your right...i scale it a little bit now...
about the meshflow....i actually took care about edgeloops and all of those stuff....maybe is the persp view which don't let you see the mesh clearly...
a close up of the upper part of the nose.
Profane
21-06-2004, 05:57 AM
here is the first mask (the 'happy' one) now i'm gonna do the the 'sad' one ...you know the typical greek theater masks....
tho i'd like to see more crits.
Profane
21-06-2004, 05:58 AM
..and from another perspective
Profane
21-06-2004, 09:48 AM
...here is the refernce pic i used to look at while working on my masks...
Profane
22-06-2004, 06:08 AM
and now both of the masks i made....nearly completed....
Profane
24-06-2004, 12:43 AM
nearly completed ...just a final gather rendering to see them better
Profane
24-06-2004, 07:57 AM
...pleeze some crits!!!!!
squidpickle
24-06-2004, 09:31 AM
Not many replys to your masks yet? Well, I agree that the lines need to flow better in the mesh. Its a nice render, is the silk under the mask 3d as well? Anyhow, its a nice pice, but try stretching the masks a bit wider, atleast around the upper jaw area. If I were to where this mask it wouldn't cover nearly enough of my face. Keep up the good work though, I really like it.
hmm... well to start off, those are very nice materials :) The modelling looks pretty well done, but i have a problem with the "happy" face. Both masks look like they are crying. One looks like he is wailing with pain or something, and the other one looks like hes crying because his only daughter just got married. Im not sure how to correct this, since the picture in your reference tends to make the happy one look evil... http://www.sc.edu/library/socar/images/immpc/imspenc/laughing.jpg
in this picture as well as your reference, its easier to see that the lines by the cheek are more defined for the smile, and the eyebrows are generally pointed more downwards than upwards. Im not sure if any of this helps, its just my opinion :)
Profane
24-06-2004, 09:10 PM
thanks for your crits guys.
you're both right (squidpickle,sarn) i will fix some of the things you've pointed out
@squidpickle:i don't understand what you're telling me...well actually i got it but i'm not sure cuase on 3dtotal irc channel i recieved the opposite comment (weird:smug:)...tho one thing for sure i can tell to everyone who would look at my thread is that the greek masks don't have to fit the face of the actors precisely...they are usually longer or bigger in general...
anyway thanks for the precious words.
oh...and yes the silk is an anisotropic shader with some math function i studied...isn't it adorable???:p :p :p :p
Tarod
26-06-2004, 12:35 AM
Hey, well modelled! It looks really close to the reference pics and the expression on the faces look great. Good work.
Profane
26-06-2004, 02:22 AM
oh thank you !!As soon as possible i will post the final image (at the moment i'm working on the red silk cloth under the masks....it's driving me nut...never thought it could be a so tough task!!!)
thanks again
Profane
30-06-2004, 07:26 PM
here is a quick updated
i like your masks they are great !!! Maybe the lips of the sad are a little bit too low.But i like them very much.When i see such stuff i wonder wouldn't it be great to have them in my hands ;)
Profane
01-07-2004, 02:38 PM
oh thank you!
Profane
02-07-2004, 02:34 PM
I decided to change the concept of my image.....what do you guys think about it?
Joe-Q
03-07-2004, 01:17 AM
Wo0oW ... lol i like ur maks very much and this last render looks very cool but i think something else on the background would look better ...something freak but not too much ...u know
nice work , keep us updated
Profane
03-07-2004, 01:39 AM
...thanks Joe-q....now it's in the final 3d artwork session....
the name of the thread is : the art Art dusk
http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?threadid=19964&goto=newpost
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