speed modelling challenge week 13 - mouse

[deadplant155]

sorry, i'm the one who started a new thread to ask if i had to start a new thread. then i read where it says, dont start a new thread. so....sorry, here's my entry.

[deadplant155]

and here's what i think you mean by clay?... ya, totally new at this, sorry again.

modeled in 3ds max 6 in about 40 minutes
maybe five minutes on lighting and about twenty minutes to render (you said rendering time doesnt count against you, right?)
rendered with mental ray.

[Neomax]

Congratulations Orkron for your 500th Post! ;)
Now I know why they call you a "Speed Demon":D

NEO

[DESPISTADO]

bruth: you can chamfer the edges for the separation and then extrude the polys

[H2O-3DT]

Nice mouse Orkron and congrats on 500..
:eek:

deadplant155.
Good model but u seem to be missing some faces.
U can se trough the model. Keep up the good work.
:cool:

[Orkron]

Originally posted by Neomax
Congratulations Orkron for your 500th Post! ;)
Now I know why they call you a "Speed Demon":D

NEO

Lol, Thanks, I actually failed to see the 500 till you told me!

Bully: thanks for the comments man! You're better than me u nerd!

H2O: thanks a lot, means a lot!

[H2O-3DT]

modelling time: 45 min.
Rendering and texturing: 10 min.

[Neomax]

Orkron,dude,it seems that you are not spending much time on Lighting,hmm?
you are good at modeling,so why dont you spend some more time on lighting? it'll make your models look more better....

Tip: Try using IES Sky and Sun,you may get some good daylight effect out of it...;) (don't forget to increase the Rays/Samples of light tracer)

NEO:xyz:

[Bruth]

There, using despitados method I actually created a mouse like object, heheh....I made a mistake somewhere though.

Software: 3D Studio Max R6
Modelling: About 20 minutes
Texturing: what texture?
Rendering: a few seconds

[Orkron]

Hey Neomax, I SUCK at lighting, you got any decent tuts for that? that meaning those techniques you mentioned.

[DESPISTADO]

bruth: check the corner you forgot chamfer them

[Bruth]

Originally posted by DESPISTADO
bruth: check the corner you forgot chamfer them

Yeah, I know. I'm going to try and make a real mouse in a bit. I was just trying out Max 6 mostly. It's a lot different from version 3 and I have to get used to it.

[H2O-3DT]

if u are taking the leap from max 3. U will wellcome the changes.
Allot easier too use, and much more flexible and feature filled.
Have fun!. :D

[Neomax]

Originally posted by Orkron
Hey Neomax, I SUCK at lighting, you got any decent tuts for that? that meaning those techniques you mentioned.

I don't have any tutorial as such...but all i can give you is some info about Daylight and Light Tracer

Daylight System:
The Daylight System helps setting the lights for an outdoor scenes at a specific location, date and
time. An assembly with an IES Sky and an IES Sun lights is created with the appropriate orientation.
The user interface will have the controls for each light plus a way to position them and animate
their movement based on location, date and time.
I hope this helps you.
wait till I write a tut for that..:)

NEO

[Neomax]

ORKRON: Turn on the light tracer in the advanced lighting and create a IES Sky and IES Sun in your scence,directing the object,
for IES Sun, keep intensity in betwn 1000 to 2400 lx.(depends upon you; how bright you want it) and render it(it may take several mins)

IES Sky and IES Sun:
IES Sky is a dome light similar to Skylight, while IES Sun is a strong light source used for outdoor
scenes where the Sun has to be simulated. These light are physically based and can be found in the
Photometric lights group. Their settings are oriented toward the architectural world, where realistic
values are required.
While they can be used as separate entities, they are more easily managed using the Daylight
System, which combines the two and provide a common user interface.

NEO:)

[Neomax]

One more thing:
If you are getting some Black spots on your rendered image,that means the number of Rays/Samples emitted by light tracer are less(its like Photons of GI),then you can increase the number of rays and even Bounces. But Increasing bounce by 2,and rays by 2x,is equal to increasing rendering time by 3 times...so be careful...
I hope it Helps you.:)

NEO

PS- I have got a Radiosity PDF which ships with 3dsmax,if you dont have it then tell me a location where i can upload it,i'll upload it for you.(size:989KB)

[Orkron]

Thanks Neo, I'll give that a shot...I should have the file, i'll use ur info, thanks again

[Nightwishdan]

Hello

Software 3ds Max

Modelling: 60min
Shading: 5min
Lighting: 3min
Rendering 3sec

[Nightwishdan]

more

[Bruth]

Okay, well this one is better than the first. It's boring but at least I tried.

Software: 3D Studio Max R6
Modeling: 23 minutes
Texturing/Lighting: I don't know
Rendering: 5-10 seconds

[DESPISTADO]

nice one bruth with some more practice youll get better results:)

[andoy]

I think Littlejohn, H2O and Despistado have this challenge nailed pretty well, and hats off to you guys for helping all us others with explanations of your process.
There are little subtle things in modelling that make a vast difference if you know about them and these challenges benefit us all, when people share their knowledge.
lets keep it up.

[Orkron]

Well said Andoy

[Andy_k-3DT]

Originally posted by andoy
I think Littlejohn, H2O and Despistado have this challenge nailed pretty well, and hats off to you guys for helping all us others with explanations of your process.
There are little subtle things in modelling that make a vast difference if you know about them and these challenges benefit us all, when people share their knowledge.
lets keep it up.

I was thinking the same, at the start it was very obvious that people were struggling with this challenge - that makes it more fun :)

Those that have stuck at it will no doubt take something away from it that's a lot more valuable than any proze they may pick up along the way.

to those that had a go, no matter how hard it seemed well done :)
to those that dropped the baton when it got a little tough - shame on you :(

Andy

[Silent Voice]

I really want to know that is it possible to give realistic lights in Max R3 without any plugins........? (because i just kind of sick with lots of plugins in que.............) :)

[H2O-3DT]

Thx
andoy, Orkron and Andy_K

I´v learned a great deal on this speed comp.
So i am joining the learning group. ;)
DESPISTADO should really get a price for the video alone.
Simple and really great speed tips in that vid. :)

[H2O-3DT]

modelling time: 47 min.
Texturing and rendering: 10 min.

[H2O-3DT]

Ok.. :) this is just silly.. :) After so many mice u would think i would get tired of the subject. But... Im not.. :D
Gotta log some hours on a project, but i may enter another mouse.. :cool:

[prithvi]

Here's my entry for this week

This is the mouse that I've been chasing.......oops, using for the last 2 years or so.
It's a Microsoft IntelliPoint WheelMouse Optical.

It's not a shiny or flashy thing.......the looks are simple, but the shape is ergonomic.

Here's the clay render:

[prithvi]

.....and here's the textured render.

Edit: Forgot to add....

Modelling time: 48 mins
Texturing time: around 20 mins
Render time: around 30 secs

[prats]

I just couldn't get around to doing any models as yet...was pretty busy this week...
but I did check out the video of despistado..and hey that was really great,.thank u despistado

Prithvi- thats a nice mouse u've done..like that light

H20- ur models r really cool...how do u manage so many so easily??

Andy- yes this time the challenge looked so easy but when u do sit down to do it we realise how challenging it is..but a really great topic

[Marty_McFly-3DT]

Rhino 1.1 (modelling)
3D Studio Max 6 (modelling, assembly )
Photoshop ME (textrues, .jpg compression)

Modelling time: 40 minutes
Texture and Lighting time: 30 minutes or so...
Rendertime: Under two minutes

An idea from my girlfriend... :D

It's a half clay half regular render... couldn't really decide on the textures... :(

[threedxmax]

very creative mcfly, i really like it

[DESPISTADO]

wowwww very very thank to all you guys but i dont need a prize im just doing the thing i like a lot... 3D, your words are very rewarding and the knowledge that I have helped to many of you is the best prize for me. im here to learn and i learn a lot from you too, thanks again :)

[hulk22k]

hi despitado,

u said u don't want ur prize.if u don't so plz give it to me:o :) :)
hey i m just kidding.just making fun with u.by the way i tried ur vid tut it's good.but i can't see it as stable screen.but i learn only one thing from ur tut & that is.........i first make the poly box than i do the cuts with boolean whatever i need the har edges on my mouse ,then last from ur tut,i apply FFD box modifier on it then shape the mouse at the last.by this ii can make very cool mouse model.

Thanks despitado remind me to FFD box modifier.
i have made only two buttons simple mouse.which one i m gonna post later on.i just got tires with C++.i like to make more but i can't able to give the time to challange.

hey ANDY, i think u have to declare the result of last week challange.& hope we will get next challange announced.

[hulk22k]

here is my very simple two button mouse.


modelling time : 40 mins;
texturing time : 2 mins; :) :) :p :p :p
rendering time : 1 min;with default scanline;
soft : 3ds max 6

[hulk22k]

clay

[DESPISTADO]

Originally posted by hulk22k
hi despitado,

u said u don't want ur prize.if u don't so plz give it to me:o :) :)



hahahahaha.

why you say as stable screen?? maybe you have the same problem like marty_mcfly and youll need download the irfan view check the previous pages i put the link there:)


best regards

[Marty_McFly-3DT]

Originally posted by threedxmax
very creative mcfly, i really like it

Thanks... I'm glad you like it! :D

Originally posted by DESPISTADO
hahahahaha.

why you say as stable screen?? maybe you have the same problem like marty_mcfly and youll need download the irfan view check the previous pages i put the link there:)


best regards

Problems? What do you mean problems? My wife left me, my dog has fleas, my goldfish ate my cat, and 3D Studio Max Booleans break my models... I don't have any problems at all... Life is Beautiful!!! :D (just kidding about everythng... well... except the booleans part! :roll: )

[hulk22k]

well it seems everybody sucks at max booleans.but i don't have any prob with booleans!!i enjoy to make mouse with booleans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111:p :p

[hulk22k]

modelling time :45 mins;
texturing time : 10 mins;(i suck at making materials of mouse)
rendering time : 1mins;(no lights)(with mental ray)
soft:3ds max 6

[hulk22k]

ops forget to attach

[hulk22k]

clay

[MaRiMo]

Great job everyone!
I wish I had more free time to model some new things.

To Andy concerned my last entry:
Do the trackball mouse too?;)

[DESPISTADO]

Originally posted by Marty_McFly
Thanks... I'm glad you like it! :D



Problems? What do you mean problems? My wife left me, my dog has fleas, my goldfish ate my cat, and 3D Studio Max Booleans break my models... I don't have any problems at all... Life is Beautiful!!! :D (just kidding about everythng... well... except the booleans part! :roll: )


lol yeah standar max booleans its a pain


nice one hulk22k :)

[DESPISTADO]

ok this one its my last entry of the week

sport mouse :P

3ds max 5.1

modeling time: 30 minutes

render time: 3 minutes

texture time: 01:32:00

[hulk22k]

Originally posted by DESPISTADO
lol yeah standar max booleans its a pain


nice one hulk22k :)

thanks despistado for ur feedback........

i have done this model with standard max booleans!!it seems easy to me with FFD box modifier.:D :D :D

[DESPISTADO]

texture one


hulk22k: the weird things happen when you have a boolean object and you make another boolean to that object some times it create a hole and not the boolean:(

[RAL]

Despistado: Yo - cool mouse - could be a reebok...
Nice texturing idea =))

[Silent Voice]

Its a good one DESPISTADO much different from your earlier postings. I like it. After a long tough download i finally got your tutorial, Thanx for your effort. It really means alot. There is a readme file says that chamfer madness is necessary but that script is only for max 5 and 6 and i still stuck with max 3.
:grr:

But it sure helps me to improve my modelling technique.


Thanx again. :)

[Dymitr]

My entry.
Optic mouse

modelling: 40 min
texturing: 1 h

3d studio MAX

[Dymitr]

And clay

[the_bully]

Dymitr

real nice i like this one.
the way its set up gives it a realistic look

one of my favs

[H2O-3DT]

Well more spam.. ehm mice.. :)

Modelling time:50 min
Texturing and rendering: 10 min.

[Kingcolin]

Here is my first one this week!

Thanks you very much for the video tut, Despistado!
I did not know that technique yet

Moddeled: Full 50 mins
Rendered: 5 secs
Textured: 5 mins

Edit: Updated pic

[Kingcolin]

And the clay

[Orkron]

H2O: I have this for you :-) :xyz:
I wanted you to have a 3d logo, so I made you one!

[Orkron]

Here's my second, and last entry for this week. This challenge really kicked my ass...I'd like to thank the individual who reminded me of the 4x4x4 modifier (in my case 8x8x4), that really helped me jump on the ball (eventually).

[H2O-3DT]

Originally posted by Orkron
H2O: I have this for you :-) :xyz:
I wanted you to have a 3d logo, so I made you one!


Thx Orkron :wave:

[Orkron]

Originally posted by H2O
Thx Orkron :wave:

Do you like it?

[H2O-3DT]

i like it allot.. :)

[Orkron]

Originally posted by H2O
i like it allot.. :)

Sweet! Glad to hear that. :D

[the_bully]

Originally posted by Orkron
Sweet! Glad to hear that. :D


Wheres mine:(

[Orkron]

Originally posted by the_bully
Wheres mine:(

Lol, yours is already kool!

[DESPISTADO]

Originally posted by RAL
Despistado: Yo - cool mouse - could be a reebok...
Nice texturing idea =))

lol i swear i did noticed that:) thank for your comment

kingcolin: thank you its my pleasure help:)


silent voice: thanks a lot, chamfermadness its not really necessary but it help a lot in rounded edge :)

[ThomsonX]

well Vacation was ok back now tho..
here Is another feeble attempt from me :D

50 mins model time

[ThomsonX]

and the feeble clay :grr:

[no-jey]

Hello fellow Speedsters! This is my entry for this weeks challenge.
Its a 5 button mouse. Done using Max 6. 50 min. modeling time using SubD's. Rendered using Mental Ray.

[cavron]

hi, here its my first entry, i'm new here and here is my model.

model time: 20min
texturing: 20min
render: 5min
software: 3dsmax 6 sp1
rendered: final render stage 1

it was created with 3 splines, then i unied them, and then i applied 3 booleans..
the standard max booleans are fixed with sp1.

(note: i speak spanish, sorry 4 the english)

[no-jey]

.......and the Clay version with wireframe.

[cavron]

sorry, here is the picture

[DESPISTADO]

Originally posted by cavron
hi, here its my first entry, i'm new here and here is my model.

model time: 20min
texturing: 20min
render: 5min
software: 3dsmax 6 sp1
rendered: final render stage 1

it was created with 3 splines, then i unied them, and then i applied 3 booleans..
the standard max booleans are fixed with sp1.

(note: i speak spanish, sorry 4 the english)


lol i like your nick hahahaha i speak spanish too:P

about the booleans i didnt know that well i use max 5.1 i prefer 5.1 than 6 a lot of plugins not are suported for 6 version i hope 7 version got more compatibily, good stuff in version 6 are shell modifier and particle flow, and i read some feature of max 7 and i see very interesting stuff like the update of edit poly modifier and the edit poly enhancement, the improved UV editing and the first person camera and i hope version 7 dont have a lot of errors like 6 but still i think version 7 have minor updates

best regards

[Orkron]

Hey Bully, you want me to make you a logo too? I can.
Also, y aren't you on aim?

[raven2k4z]

I had this tiny little mouse thingie going on... Worked on the model for about 20 min... And then i thought, hell i have to try out shag hair (as I've never used it before), put some hair on the friggin mouse.... And Max crashes... I did save my model in time, but i cant render it with shag hair, so then i just stopped working on it... And btw, if anyone have any suggestions on what i could do to get this shag hair/fur working...Hell, tell me! :S And yeah, a tutorial for the friggin' thing would also be great...


Anyhow, nice models you'll!





Damn 3D :S

[Thiago]

it´s first post
Comments are wellcome!!
Modeling time: 15min

[the_bully]

Originally posted by Orkron
Hey Bully, you want me to make you a logo too? I can.
Also, y aren't you on aim?

sure man make me one i would love to see it

cant get on aim now dealing with crazy deadlines
right now ill be on later maybe 6 my time

[prithvi]

This is my second entry for this week's

And this is my first work in Maya lol

Modelling time: 38 mins
Texturing time: around 5 mins (fur made in Maya Fur)
Render time: around 25 secs

Method used: Nurbs modelling with sphere.

[prithvi]

.....and here's the clay render

[misiopuchatek]

no-jey That's just awesome...photo ;)
This is what I call photorealistic :]
For me You're already one of the winners !!

[Andy_k-3DT]

ok guys, that's the end of this one - nice to see so many good entries and even nicer to see you struggling with new tools and techniques.

Well done everybody and now it's time to take your new found skills and start work on week 14.

Please note there has been a change to the rules - make sure you read them

Andy

[DESPISTADO]

wow the deadline

[Andy_k-3DT]

Originally posted by DESPISTADO
wow the deadline

yep we moved it forwards to 22.00 hrs GMT a couple of weeks back - it means I have half a chance of getting to bed before 3am.

Andy

[Aware]

Program: 3d Studio Max 6.0
Time used: 50 Minutes
Rendering Time: 3 minutes and 16 seconds (3ghz p4)
Texturing: 3 minutes
Lighting: 2 minutes
Renderer: Mental Ray

I know I am a little late, I have never tried this before. Bare with me, and if I cant enter, then atleast just "admire" my work, thanks!

Wish I had more time, some of the curves doesn't fit my style, but ohh well :(

[Aware]

The Clay

[tooninator]

I just wanted to start participating in this cool thread.

Modeling: 60 min
Maya 6.0

Poly's & NURBS

Thanks

[Andy_k-3DT]

this one seemed to present a few of you with problems. looking through the first few pages there were virtually no good models, everybodty was making mistakes that could have easily been avoided by doing a little research or applying the tools better. For one person to get it "wrong" and ask for help is one thing, but when others carry on repeating the mistakes is really unneccessary.

With a few exceptions the standard this week was dissapointing, rushed mice with no buttons, buttons that didn't fit, buttons that hadn't been seperated from the mouse - come on guys how do you expect these to "work"? One of the ideas of these challenges is for you to use your software in different ways. I think this weeks challenge illustrated perfectly that the "normal" low poly mesh then smooth tchnique doesn't always work. A few "got it", those entries stood out and are the ones on the list below.

Each week I get a few mails from people asking why they haven't won or got a mention. I don't mind answering but it would be really helpful if before asking "why?" you took a look at your own image and compared it to the ones we selected.



Honorable Mentions go to


marty McFly - http://forums.3dtotal.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=242293

aliased - http://forums.3dtotal.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=242326

gobby - http://forums.3dtotal.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=242371

andoy - http://forums.3dtotal.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=243087

h2O - http://forums.3dtotal.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=244070

Ral - http://forums.3dtotal.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=244083

prithvi - http://forums.3dtotal.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=244688


despistado - http://forums.3dtotal.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=244813

dymirtr - http://forums.3dtotal.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=244940




Runners Up

little John - http://forums.3dtotal.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=243758

no jey - http://forums.3dtotal.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=245049



Winners

As usual, a superb entry and a well deserved win

CutCopyPaste - http://forums.3dtotal.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=243499

it was hard to select just one of your entries this week as there were so many great ones but we wnet for this one in the end

h2O - http://forums.3dtotal.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=244185

If the winners can contact me with their details we'll get prizes sent out to you

Andy

[andoy]

well done CutCopyPaste and h2O.
this was a great challenge that i think we all learnt something from.
i know i did and i got an honorable mention too... wahay.
again congrats to the winners and lets keep it up.

[mr_lemon]

cheers for winners,runner-up and honorable...really a great work

[RAL]

Biiiiig RESPECT & grats to the winners - awesome work !!!
Also runners up - thumb up =)

Thankx to the jury for mentioning me - I'll try my best to reach the next level... =))

[H2O-3DT]

Annie and Andy, thank u for this!
It is realy a great compliment to be picked to win, when so many great modells have been entered.

I have learned a great deal, and i have had fun on this weeks comp.. :)

Again thx, and thank u all for all the inspiration from all posters this week...

Ps. Cant wait to get my claws on more Total Textures.. :)

[CutCopyPaste]

Thank you to Threedy, Andy and the staff.

And thank you to those participating.

I never had a chance to enter the the organic mouse. (shown below). Work deadlines, presentations, hurricanes, kids, family, friends, reading, writing, brew,... etc etc... We all have our reasons.

Again, thank you.

**
Andy, CD2 from the Total Texture CD collection if you please. (I assume you can refer to past information per address requirments.. if not please reply here.)

CCP

[prithvi]

Congrats to all the winners, runners-up and honorable mentions.
And thanks for the hon. mention, Andy :)


CutCopyPaste, just wanted to ask u, if u don't mind.........how long have u been into 3D?
Right from learning till your current pro phase?

Your models r awesome, whatever the topic be.
They speak a lot of how seasoned you've become.

[hulk22k]

congratulation to winners,runners up & hon.
congratulation cutcoppaste & H2O. i m very eager to win next contest,try & try & try & try,,,,,,,,,,,,,,can't stop.

[Marty_McFly-3DT]

Many Congratulations to the winners this week. We all knew that H20 was going to walk away happy this week... (Although I think it's completely unfair that he's so talented...) :D Great Job! And CutCopyPaste's model was just too awesome... :drool: (I think they should both be banned from future contests!!!) ;) Also, thanks for the mention... I feel proud to be among such talented people... You Guys Rock! :dance:

I'd would also like to Thank Andy for putting up with us crazy guys and not giving up on us rule breakers by keeping these contests going! Yours is a truely hard job and "WE" truely do appreciate your valuable time! :D :D :D

[aliased]

well done H20, CutCopyPaste excellent models

[LittleJohn]

Congrats to the winners (H2O & cutcopypaste did a marvellous job) , my fellow runner up No Jey and all HM`s... excellent models mates...:) :) :)

[no-jey]

Congrats to the winners!!!!!!! Very nice indeed!!!
Hey Little John, were closing in!!!!!:D

[Nobby]

Congratulations to the winners, great work all :)




andy,
:o sorry for all, i wasn't really upset,still on touch and for sure, i'l be with you for every challenge except for week 14, have worked all the week, inclued the weekend.


Bravo the winners
:)

[dotzro]

Congraaaat to the winners,runner-up and honorable. nice job

[oindypoind]

LOL, just noticed my image got removed. Good one Andy :D

If only I wasn't so busy at work at the moment.... I want to do some speed modelling.