Character:King Homer

[Pikmin]

Hi all!

I just draw this character for an other picture , I just begin de modeling. I would like to create a step by step thread , maybe it could help some people and people could help me in my progress of this character. I did this character, because I put my last one on hold andI never show this her.

Here the design and the WIP 3D charactere.

[Pikmin]

Modeling

[Borg]

its great to see another of your awsome models. I'm looking forward to seeing how this progresses.

[grondor]

i have a very good sheder for your model :)

....... the model is great but it will be 95% better with a goood mat.

[grondor]

the crown is to short , the lips to thin .... and the chin it must be more twinfull

[Pikmin]

Thx for the comment.

Borg: Im happy you like it.

grondor : Right now the crown is just a place holder (just to give me an idea, I thought that was obvious). For the chin and lips, I have work to do on it , but I dont find them to thin or not.

[grondor]

o forgot 1 thing , weld a bit more where the hand and tors are , ....

[Pikmin]

Update

I think I will change the arm with less muscle , because he is not suppose to have to much muscle and add more grease :)

Right now Im working on the foot.


BTW , if any of you guys know the skin shader in brazil, I would really like to have some tips about it.

[grondor]

ummm you could use brazil , but i dont like it , change your renderer to mental rey and there are tons of shaders

it would be nice to see this guy with mental rey ink 'n paint shader :)

[andoy]

I think the arm look fine as it is, Most of the really big guys i know have large strong arms, maybe it's cos they use them alot for helping get up from chairs and such like.
Leave them as they are and see what the overall look is like when the rest of the torso and legs are done, i think you'll find them ok.
I really enjoy your work by the way and i think it's a great idea to do a step by step thread..... i for one thank you and will hopefully learn a few new things whilst following this one.

[Pikmin]

grondor: From what planet are you from? ink 'n paint shader ????? Are you sure you know how brazil and Mental Ray work.

andoy: Thx. I think you re right. I ll check later the overall look and decide what I will do. I hope this will help you. Here the wire.

[Pikmin]

face close up

[grondor]

yes i know

1)ink 'n paint works different with mental rey

2)your character is more cartoon then realistic .... try using brazil toon

3)im from the moon :)

4)if you dont know something dont say something smart about it ... !

[Mystik]

Nice Work Joe Nothing to say that's a style.
What will you do with the arms? will you put him a king staff?
Is he Drunk?

I think His ***'s are a way too loose

Some guy think they are good others don't have to

Nice work

[Pikmin]

Mystik: Thx , I dont know yet for the arm, maybe a king staff would be really great. Drunk ? no, he is just too fat and too lasy. BTW I cant wait to see your final car!!!!

[Cyrenn]

Wow another funny character. Your always full of surprises Pikmin.

He looks crazy. great work.

[Pikmin]

Thx. Its because the other one is near the finish , and I just began this one :P

[kenkuru]

damn man...I really can't put to words how must i like your characters. brilliant, just brilliant...Looking forward to updates. I hope you got that brazil skin shader under control by the way

cheers :)

[Pikmin]

Wow thx. Me to I hope to control skin shader :S.

Update

On this I really change the arm, maybe I should add grease detail. I also done some minor tweaking.

[Mystik]

We want dla broue dans l'nombril Right on Fat Fatty

[Pikmin]

Mystik : Yeah why not? I never think about that. Do you have any other good idee?

Translation: dla broue dans l'nombril ( foam or dirt in is belly bottom) :)

[Ivo D]

looking really nice.. this will be a funn picture for sure.

reminds me of the opening of the movie sexy beast.

if you know what i mean, maybe you could do something with that.

nasty hair going to his belly button, heavy sunburned skin and such :D

[Pikmin]

Ivo D : Do you think It worth to rent? If its a great ref , maybe It could help me.

[Ivo D]

yes its worth to rent.. its more a style ref.. than a real model reference, it can give you some idears for a scene or mode.

but non the less the movie is great, so just rent it and whats it.. get some beer, look it with some friends. its a laugh :D

it has 2 covers do... pff confusing this one

http://imdb.com/title/tt0203119/

and this one

http://www.sendit.com/video/item/7000000063373

you see the image im talking about...

[Pikmin]

Sweet, thx. Ill try to rent it soon.

I think for this character, I will use Zbrush. Some people here where I work will help me with the program, and I already touch it a little. Ill give it a try.

[waseem]

beautiful mesh

[Stubby-]

he's so cool.... looking forward to seeing the final render

[Pikmin]

Thx guys.

I didnt have the time this week to work on him and Im tired to be in front of a computer after doing animation all the day :P

Here and update. I work more on the face(added more detail) and I made also more fat feeling around the arm.

[Pikmin]

wire

[Pikmin]

An other update. I add the feet and add all the fat around it. Ive got a lot of fun doing it :) .

[Stubby-]

What about nipples?!?!?

[Ivo D]

pikmin: looks nice overall.., your really going to the extreme on this one.. my model is like pretty skinny compared to yours hehehe :D

i like the first lower lips better.. maybe making the edge a little less edgy ... :S where the lower lip starts i mean.. give him a chubby flow to the lip.

also let the belly hang on the ground a little at the front, now its kindag tight.. it must flow over his ******, dick.. or what ever the good word in english is for that.

keep it up

thanks for the reply on my thread;)

[Pikmin]

Stubby- : Nipples are coming along soon :)

Ivo D: Good stuff. I like to play with extreme. Take a part of a character and exagerate it. Ill check for the lip, didnt work on yet. I just read on your threat that you are looking for skin shader help. I you find anything you could help me with it and if I find something I will help you with.

Hi Here an update.

I change a lot of thing on this one. I think now its better and we can feel more the weight. Next step is to work more on the breast and arm. After Ill bone him, give him a pose and work on little detail. After its props and clothes time:)

[Phynius Gauge]

He looks awesome. Maybe almost as lazy as me :).

[Chris-3DT]

Nice and chubby :)

[andoy]

Pikmin: looking good as i knew it would, but you are not working fast enough!!! hehe wanna see more updates and quicker I', eager to see how this is gonna work out.
great work and original again

[Pikmin]

Thx.

I know Im not really quick, but after doing animation all days long, im tired when I come home :P.

Yesterday I made some important change. I begin to give him a pose. Right now there is no pose for the arm and I have a lot a work on the modeling. I spent some time on skin shader and its look great.

Ill post it later, because its show an error when I try to post a pic.

[Pikmin]

why the pic didnt show up?

[Ivo D]

Originally posted by Pikmin
why the pic didnt show up?

exceeded maximum bandwidth.. for posting images.. if there is one .. ?! dont know.

but do you use brazil? im going to make a skin shader myself, if you got some tips, im open for suggestion, have tons of info allready, but its dubble as hard i guees,, when english isnt your first language.

[Pikmin]

Its not a maximum bandwidth problem. There is no error message, I just dont understant. I just cant post any picture :(

Yeah Im using Brazil. I speak french first, so Im not good in english.

For the picture I use an Hdri Picture with 1 spot light. I tweak a little in the material editor . I just began to know how its work.

[kenkuru]

what the...no stars?? damn, here's 5 from me cause i love it!! just enjoying the ride...:D

looking very much forward to seeing how this turns out. cheers...

[Pikmin]

kenkuru: Hehe wow thx.!

This is just a render test :)


http://picserver.org/view_image.php/DXFGO6M95TE0Update (http://picserver.org/view_image.php/DXFGO6M95TE0)

[taisir3d]

thats good stuff! he is fat and you can smell this! great!
good understanding of topology and anatomy!
cant wait to see him textured and inscened!

keep this updating., please ;)

[RickStefani]

haha, That is awsome. I love him. Wait, did I just say that about a guy. I want a needle to pop him.

[qooq]

Wow!
You are truly a mazing artist! A GREAT one. So nice!
Your characters has very original and clean looks! And they look so "real-like", with their great looking poses and appearances..
JUST :drool:

[Pikmin]

Im really glad you like it. Thats too much.

I cant wait to start the texturing part. I think(maybe) , I ll try using Zbrush for all the skin detail. This tool, is too powerful!

Im trying to give the real feeling look, but I have too much work to do for that. I would like a feeling like Earl bird and Lady bird look. They look fantastic!


Ill try to post a wire soon. Except, I dont know why I cant post picture, that weird.

Next step is to give the arm a pose and after, im going to model all props , king stuff.

[Startibarfast]

Very nice weight feel...love the folds.....Gravity sure is a mean lady.

[Pikmin]

hehe

A little update. I was busy these last few days , so I work very slowly.

I arrange the pose with the hand and add a septer. They will be a lot more detail with the septer, but I wanted to have the feeling of the picture. I also cut made an other composition.

Link (http://picserver.student.utwente.nl/view_image.php/BGCL0T5L653Z)

Why I cant post a pic here?

[inspired]

He is soooo PHAT!
and i mean that in 2 ways... like phat (really thick person) and phat (like 'cool' or 'kewl' what basicly means the same :roll: )

hehe well, its coming along awesome. Really good modeling!

oh and about the pic that cant be uploaded. Threedy is having problmens at the moment. They are trying to fix it... there is a big anouncement on top of every board...;)

keep it up!

[browny]

Thats awesome! He's detailed and looks heavy which is great! Great modelling! Keep posting those updates!

[Pikmin]

inspired : Oh I see , I did see the message about that. Thx for the definition, I didnt know what thats mean :) Im glad you like it.

and thx browny.


Later, I will explain the way I use brazil skin (if the result is good) , ill try to make the specular, glossiness and SSS map. Maybe I will do some kind of little tutorial.

Know, I have some modeling problem , like the tits and the hand. I have to do some royal jewel, work on the chair and maybe some velvet clothe. After its texturing time, environnment modeling and compositing. Thx for the encouragement!!!!!

Wire (http://picserver.org/view_image.php/E39E79FTWO7Z)

[Pikmin]

sorry my links are down :P , anyone know aa place where I can put my picture?

[Phynius Gauge]

Use ImageShack for Free Image Hosting (http://www.imageshack.us)

:)

[Pikmin]

Ok Sorry again if I dont work too much on it, I try to do my best for now to have more update. I juat add some detail, I made a chair (wip) and some finger ring. I try some lighting setup and photoshop tweaking before I texture him.

I will do other bijou and Im thinking about a background. I spend all the days trying to understant brazil skin shader, but I cant :P.

Phynius Gauge: Thx a lot!!


http://img219.exs.cx/img219/8930/test8tx.th.jpg (http://img219.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img219&image=test8tx.jpg)

[Phynius Gauge]

No problem. And thank you for sharing your brilliant character with us :).

5*'s

[andoy]

Looking great ( as i sort of knew it would ).

[goat]

Looks great pikmin. As usual. Love your style.

[Pikmin]

Thx all, Its motive me to continu it! My goal its to enter the book D<artiste Character modeler. That would be too great.

Ok, I made some change and spend the rest of the testing different color and check if I could texture him in photoshop without using max. This pic is just a test, I just render this pic in 700X393 and the final will be somthing like 3000Xi dont know :) .


BTW : The new forum look just kick ass! great job!

[PureCarnage]

Hey this is great, I loved it for being very original and the character so repulsive and obese... man, lay off the cheeseburgers :D

[rubberduck]

I just read all 4 pages and that last render is awesome, really nice work man ;) I can almost smell the sweat :eek: :) 5*'s

[Pikmin]

Thx Im happy that people fell the character the way I wanted.

I ve got some new idee to develop. Ill change ,for the better, the background and add a window behind with some blurry castle. I need an explaination for that light behind him.

The skin wet effect is done by doing a render of the charactere with no specular and an other with specular at the max, after on photoshop I use a mask so I can draw where I want wet area.

Also I made several pass on photoshop, like adding colored and grey layer so I can play with the white and black. Using overlay, hard light etc... I just try different thing. Ill post different step of the progress in photoshop after I finish it.

[Xagoth]

Pikmin i just love your work... it`s so inspiring...

btw, you`ve been working on Prince Of Persia as a member of UbiSoft?
GOD BLESS UBISOFT FOR GIVING US SO GREAT GAMES!!

[kenkuru]

What can i say about this...hmmm...supreme!! just awesome...
i wonder what one would find from that guys belly-button, on second thought...no...i don't want to know that... :)

[Xagoth]

I`ve got just a little question about this area. Is it on purpose? What is it? Kind of rotten part of belly? lol :dunno:

[inspired]

he is SOOO ugly! I mean the king himslef ofcourse, and ABSOLUTELY not the modeling nor the texturing or lighting ;) Thats awesome!

I like the render, and i absolutely love the modeling. The gold material of his necklace looks pretty nice too :)

really great work! 5 stars for sure!

[taisir3d]

i like the rendering. what did you use for that? vray or MR? and which plattform u used for the model?

awesome work!

[Pikmin]

Thx again!

Xagoth: No I never work on Prince of persia or splinter cell. Right now Im on Far Cry Instinct Xbox. For you question,Its a shader and lighting problem :P, I have to find a way to arrange that.

kenkuru: I think Ill add some pube (is that the good word?).

On this one , I use skin, glass, chrome and advance material shader in Brazil, so I use 3dsmax6.

Im working on it right now! :)

[CCRobinson]

Looking very nice, especially the skin shadder and spec map. Have you concidered adding a few veins on that bulging stomach? Just on an incidence mixer so its beneath the skin. It might give it that extra organic feel, although its pretty near it already.

(On a side note, does ubisoft have any restrictions on what you can make on your own time? I've heard a lot of companies claim some kind of copyright to anything you produce while you're employed there. As a graduating student, this is a major concern of mine.)

Look forward to seeing what you come up with next!

[Pikmin]

CCRobinson:On the final version, Ill add a lot more detail like all the stuff you said with dirt. Here at ubisoft, I dont think there have such a politic like that. Id say they encourage us to produce stuff in our free time.

BTW , we have a contest here with the thing we produce home!