stop nude pics and kind of perverted pics

[slayer0005]

i would really like if you put a sign on your thread showing this (NUDE PIC)
plz can you try that for some people are a little small to view that stuff

[Brent]

Hello

Yes that`s probably a legitimate concern for the younger members.
I have seen some posts where the word [nudity] was in the thread title.
So some are doing it.
As far as perverted pics go.....I don`t think that`s an appropriate word to use.The female form is anything but perverted....it`s a beautiful thing.
It`s a form of artistic expression.
When you model a human form....you model it in the nude.....that`s just how it`s done.

[novoAlias]

agree, and i would like to suggest you shorten your sig a bit its a tad long :)

[ludenhud]

If you want the overall opinoin of censure threeds like that you may read this threed at maxwell here (http://www.maxwellrender.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1157)

[L10N]

another thought:
"wow, sth nude is in this topic, lets have a look"

that's the kind of thinking some kids have :)

besides, they will and must lurn about the opposite sex sooner or later

[Nappa]

art and nudity are one in the same your in a art community deal with it :crazy:

[USED]

slayer could you link me to what your referring to as " perverted pics "
if you or any one else sees anything on the board that offends you please in form a mod so that we can right click and save it before it gets deleted :D hahha
kidding, no if you see some thing let us know and we will do what we feel is appropriate.

guys take it easy on him, he is younger and does not know the power of the female form ;) but he will someday

[Phynius Gauge]

Slayer, if you ever want to create a realistic character, you will need to know and appreciate the human form. The more you open your mind to all facets of reality, the better artist you'll become.

It's only a matter of time before you make your first CG girl anyways :dance:

Almost inevitable if you ask me...

[Daniel]

Slayer, first of all, these boards are 13 years and older. So by that time, most people have seen a naked body at one time or another. Obviously if we see anything that's qualified as perverted, it will be promptly removed. But other wise, a naked body is a display of art for those who believe in the greatness of the human form. So if you are easily offended by any sight of nudity, I suggest that you stay away from any thread that might contain a humanoid being, and that you remove any mirrors hanging in your bathroom.

[MariusvZyl]

I agree with what you all say, BUT, open a thread titled "human face with perfect edgeloops" and on page 3 is a fully genderised, photoreal render with perfect sss skin. Explain that to your boss walking in!

I am sure the word [nudity] in the title is not a bad idea and not much trouble at all..

Peace,
Cheers.

[MonteCristo]

I agree with what you all say, BUT, open a thread titled "human face with perfect edgeloops" and on page 3 is a fully genderised, photoreal render with perfect sss skin. Explain that to your boss walking in!
That I think is the biggest reason why a Nudity tag should be included, but having said that, if your boss is too uptight to hear the explanation of "it's not real it's a 3D thread. I'm interested in 3D modelling too," then I guess you probably shouldn't be surfing threedy at work in the first place.

Yes I agree with Daniel here. There is no harm in seeing a naked person.

Seeing a naked person flashing their pink bits at you is another thing entirely. -- That sort of thing would be deleted.

I am fairly sure we have all been naked at some point; so the sight of the human body represented in all its glory shouldn't be offensive. If it is, then I recommend sticking to the threads that you know won't have nudity in. Generally the inorganic threads are a good place to start. But Slayer, nudity will always appear here. It will always appear here because 3D characters must often be made naked before they can be clothed. That's just the way it is.

I don't think its reasonable to expect everyone to slap nudity tags on their threads, or for us moderators to be expected to remind everyone to do it. Put it this way, if you needed to look up Michaelangelo's "David," (a famous nude sculpture) or Boticelli's "The Birth of Venus" (a nude painting) would that be offensive or pervy? No. The same applies here.

[slayer0005]

you have some points there but still i really would appreciate it if people put nude signs on pictures

and about the perverted pics woods natalies or whatever has a woman stripping herself in front of you see what i mean

[niki]

mmm .. I have to agree with Monte
and ..I don't like how you define "perverted" the woody's job ..
if I had children, I would not allow them to run on this forum
that's is my opinion

[3dGator]

I'm not one to usually jump into these discussions, but I thought I'd mention 2 important points here. For one thing, I just noticed you love playing resident evil and half life, right? That I know of those games are quite violent... so what youre saying is you have absolutely no problem with murder, but seeing a naked woman is offensive to you?!?

Secondly, I fully agree with Monte here. Wasn't it in the Renaissance that the human form was elevated to a form of perfection and admiration? I don't know where youre from, Slayer, but most ppl you'll see here have their roots firmly influenced by those philosophies, so they will without exception attempt to study the male and female body to a form of perfection. That is part of art...

Anyway, if you feel offended by these threads, just dont look at them! If you want to learn about art, face it! you'll have to learn about the human form as well. :)

[shiroii]

I gotta jump in here to defend woody and to give my opinion on this nude businiss thing.

First off, I think it's just good to put (nudity) in the title. Simply becuase it can create uncomfortable moments at school or work, you might have a supervisor who doesn't like that and it might create problems. I personally can't really think of it being a problem, but I don't live in a country in which nudity is a taboo, in some countries it is and it would be polite to keep those people in mind.

Second, I'm just wondering why "nude" automatically conects to "female" ther are male models too you know, you just don't see them very often :)

Third. Woody's image is not perverting! I was actually shocked to read this I mean, it's not disturbing nor perverted. It's simply a well modeled piece of work, is she doing perverted things with other models? Do we get to see images of her touching herself? That would be perverting, mainly because it's a computer model used for sexual images, but just becuase you see the model in her undies isn't really perverting right?
Awomen stripping down in front of you isn't perverted either, it could be if it was set in a perverted context, but normally I can't see it to be anything perverted, unless it is meant to be and put into that context.
And of course, it's up to you, as soon as you open the natalie thread and woody is telling you he's going to model a female, doesn't mean you have to scroll down or anything, you could just close the window and go to the next thraed, you didn't do that, but wanted to watch ....

[MonteCristo]

Actually, I think he's probably referring to these images that Woody posted in the following thread:

The Natalie Thread (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?t=16627&page=4&pp=15)

Now these are clearly centrefold images, but still there's no pink bits being flashed or fondled, although it seems to be heading that way, even so, this looks fine to me.

Basically, I refer you to my earlier post. I don't think nudity warnings will be implemented anytime soon, although work or images that are truly considered perverted, will be removed.

In summary: I'm right.

:haha: :haha: :haha: :shout: :shout: :shout: :ufo: :halo:

[battle_poet]

personally, I have incessantly failed to determine appropriate implications to eloquently promote or give cause to this argument regardless of whom I am refering to. The human body is in fact a beautiful thing regardless of art or potential philosophies that at a given time in history correlated TO art in any way. Though in europe during the renaissance as so adequately implied preceding my post in this forum, the human body was regarded as beauty and perfection under a limited paradigm of elements composing the mentality behind that state of mind.

Today's society differs greatly than that of a mid 1100's family did in the time of kings. As the world evolved technologicaly and economically, so has the way people have exhumed their emotional apparatus, thus the very foundation on which people associate their reactions to the external environment such as the topic of nudity is affluently fluctuated and impacted upon by new means of mental or physical processes, be them biological and psychological in nature.

Thus regarding the issue of nudity, or any reactions relating to this emotionally laden term, is essentialy a factor of the nature of the interpretation of the audience, regarding the paramount quintessence of this topic. "A perverted element" is a sexual practice or act considered abnormal or deviant.

Though potently elaborated upon earlier, perversive or sexualy insinuative material originates in part on how the audience interprets the incoming sensory information based on a solid backdrop of emotional development and proffesional and personal experiences, however, any content that would directly oppose any form of art, as the adumbrated act of sex through means of sexualy implicit content should be seriously contrasted to art as these two entities are of greater confusion for a multitude of individuals in society to this present day.

Thus, supporting this argument, I would justify these previous words by stating that the word nudity SHOULD be utilized at the head of any forum or post, regardless of the association or correlation of that word to perversive content by the instigator. The act or state of being nude can be expressed either in the form of art or sexual endeavors relating therein, thus any content that may or may not potentially relate to the full exposure of the human body in any way should be notified to any possible readers beforehand, allowing them to make the conscious decision to accept this statement as true and enter with the appropriate and given knowledge

[MonteCristo]

Though potently elaborated upon earlier, perversive or sexualy insinuative material originates in part on how the audience interprets the incoming sensory information based on a solid backdrop of emotional development and proffesional and personal experiences, however, any content that would directly oppose any form of art, as the adumbrated act of sex through means of sexualy implicit content should be seriously contrasted to art as these two entities are of greater confusion for a multitude of individuals in society to this present day.


Eloquently put battle_poet.:zzz:
However, it is we, the moderators, who make that call. If we decide that something reaches beyond the boundaries of acceptable taste, or extends beyond the necessary and into a groundless and possibly offensive representation of nudity then we will remove it. The same goes for anything that is written by other users.

That is why we are here in the first place. We can be contacted by any user and informed of any breach of these boundaries. This way has always worked sufficiently well. To expect moderators to pick through each of the vast number of posts here, as well as to enforce the manditory use of a nudity warning is somewhat impracticle, regardless of how honourable the intent. The same goes for religious or political comment... Are we to sift through every sentence and ensure that no one will be offended by anyone else? Of course not.

We draw the line at members helping themselves. If they don't like something, they can tell us. We wil then make a judgement on it based upon the incoming sensory information and on that solid backdrop of our own emotional development and proffesional and personal experiences.

It is however, polite, if nothing else, to state a nudity warning on your work.

[battle_poet]

I see no flaw in this. I do hope however that others will remain within the boundaries of appropriate illustration.

[MonteCristo]

Sometimes they slip beyond them... but only once. ;) :D

[Daniel]

alright everyone relax, we will try to come up with a feasible solution. But first of all, no one should expect us to ban anything containing the nude form, so if you are at work or school and fear being caught looking at 3d generated skin, just stay out of the forum till your home.

[slayer0005]

yeah i see what you all mean i once modeled larra croft in the well(nude) but it wasnt textured for one thing and it didnt look real( I SUCK! ) so thats not technecly ( forgot spelling ) its not bad but still plz try putting up nude signs on pictures showing people in the buff and i think scenes and objects are the true art of 3ds max :D :dance:

[Daniel]

A sticky has been added in the two forums that are concerned, if anyone is not satisfied with the issue, feel free to comment here or send me a private message.

[slayer0005]

THANK YOU DANIEL!
at last i can roam the threads without getting pple in the buff flashin stuff at me

[Brodix]

This is probably a bit over kill, and maybe a a little sarcastic but do i need to label "Nude Bare Chested Men" also? Pry more sarcasm than anything. I mean They do look alot alike after all :lame:

[pecenipicek]

this has to be one of the most stupid threads EVER!
if you dont like nudity, dig your eyes out.

and the nudity tag... well, anyone modeling a female is going to have at least one nude render(BOOBS :p )


and again, there isnt anything more stupid than arguing about nudity...
unless youre puritan of course :p

[Daniel]

Personally I don't care about nudity, but we have to be considerate about other people's reservations, so calling this stupid is not appropriate.

And about the nude chested man remark... Don't make me beat you :hurt:

Here's an easy way to figure out if you need a nude tag, could it be seen in a general audience movie? Nude tag means there are genitalia or female breats exposed. For some reason male breasts don't count in society's norms. :lame:

[Brodix]

yes...yes...Sorry Master :evil: :crazy:

[MonteCristo]

No. Balls! Breasts are fine. Look, how about this:

Boobs are ok, but if you've done a texture with any muff or one of those stupid landing strip thingys then add the tag. I am sick of the crap that happened when Janet Jackson flashed a single boob (with a silly tassle thing on it btw) the whoo-haa that followed by the conservative fools was pathetic. Choose your battles people. I'm sorry, but not on my watch!

Quite frankly, if you can't handle boobs, then get lost. Go look at some puppy websites, you do not belong here. Alternatively, stick to the inorganic forums.