Spanish Cafe Scene

[Xeron3D]

Hey guys, this is a new scene I am working on in 3dsmax (well...actually I have been working on this scene for a few weeks so far). Here is the latest render of the scene so far (I have alot of earlier renders but I don't feel like posting them.) I know the leaves are messed up, I didn't realize they would look so offset after I moved them a little higher to the surface. They have noise modifyers attached to them. Anyways, all comments and critiques are appreciated. Thanks! :smug:

http://img54.echo.cx/img54/5692/spanishcafe95gd.jpg

[crazybadger]

looks good

just from this angle it looks like the table might be too low...like if I sat on that chair the table would be squashing against me legs. this might just be a perspective thing

[Xeron3D]

Thanks for the comment crazybadger. Yeah it probably is because of the perspective view...anyways, here is the same render just with alot of Photoshop post-production work added to it. I know it looks really weird, I just wanted to try something out. Comments please!

http://img62.echo.cx/img62/8316/spanishcafe9evil9og.jpg

[abstract]

very silent hill, really like it!!

[Xeron3D]

Thanks abstract. I was going for a creepy type look to this image. Should I desaturate the image by about 50% or so? Thanks for the comment! I will post an updated render soon. More comments appreciated! :D

[nwfndh8red]

It isn't weird, it's very well done. I love the second picture. I think abstract said it best, "very silent hill"

Great work.

[abstract]

i think maybe down 10% or 20% but not 50 i think that might be too much it looks good with a hard edge to it if you get what i mean. What is it for, just a personal project?

[Xeron3D]

Thanks for the comments guys. This scene is just a personal project. Well I want a normal version (the top render for example) and a scary version (the Silent Hill type looking image) to both be used for the final images. I was originally thinking about making a daytime version with good weather, and also making a evening or night version of the scene with rain and stuff.

I want to change the ground textures, but I'm not exactly sure what they should look like. Any recommendations on what type of textures I should apply to the ground? Here is an updated render of the scene. I added a wine glass (which looks like crap in my opinion, I think it looks too thick...but it may just be the reflections and refractions.) and I also added a white bowl. What type of food should I put in it? I think this looks a little more like an Italian Cafe instead of a Spanish Cafe.

Comments please! :smug

http://img270.echo.cx/img270/1112/spanishcafe102sp.jpg

[Novak]

Hehe, Nicely done... Like it alot...

Keep it up the graet work..

Greetz, Novak

[Xeron3D]

Thanks Novak! In your opinions, does this look more like an Italian Cafe or a Spanish Cafe? Thanks and more comments please ! :smug:

[Novak]

Mhh, hard to tell what you are asking... but i think more spanish.
More comments... Euh,.. maybe the leaves, the leaves on the floor, are looking of they are flying.. the shadow under the leaves give the intension... maybe try to changes that... and fill the glass with some red wine.. for the rest it looks great..

Greetz, Novak

[Xeron3D]

Here is another update render. I think the ground texture looks better now, I just need to increase the bump map effect first. I also changed the texture of the leaves (well actually it's the same texture but a different color) and I changed the textures of the chairs. I will add a plant with a vase and a few other things soon. Comments please! :smug:

http://img274.echo.cx/img274/2259/spanishcafe111lu.jpg

[Novak]

the ground texture looks much better, love that texture... good job on that.. the leaves are looking better now, it looks now that they are hit the floor.. Now the glass of the wine glass looks a little wierd try to changes that if you can...

for the rest i love the scene.. keept it up the grat work..

Greetz, Novak

[infernus]

Hmm..

The glass on the front table don't drop shadow, also the thing in the middle on the table behind drops shadow in wrong direction..

And the leafs looks kind of similar to the ones in 3ds max(r) * Tutorial.. Still life!

And the steel socket of the tables are to thin..
If you have a table with that kind of feets, it whould easily break and also leave marks (scratch) on the floor..

But With some work, I'm sure you can make this realy good.. :)


How I whould make a simple table..
Don't mind the quality of this image, it's just to show the table legs for you..
http://www.infernusweb.net/images/table.jpg

Edit: How do you make a shadow from a transparant object (like the glass plate on my table) look realistic?
In real, the glass plate whould not block all of the light as it does in my image..
Some light whould pass as the plate is transparent!?

[Xeron3D]

Hey guys here is my latest render of the Spanish Cafe scene! I did some post work on the image in Photoshop, just some colorization and image sharpening. All comments and critiques are appreciated, thanks! :smug:

http://img50.echo.cx/img50/3219/spanishcafe14photoshopsharp9wv.jpg

[ThinkTank]

I like the bottom one alot compared to all the others, dont change the material back to that rude boy material lol! Nice bit of contrast now, and good bit of gleem from reflective objects. the bottle of wine could be more light reflective on the neck of the bottle (if you know what i mean) and one last thing....them people must of been really hungry to lick them plates clean ;) maybe add some left overs or smears or somthing :P

actually i dont think the material matches the scene, the scene tells me Italian! and the material makes me think surfing in cornwall :-)

Also add a candle or somthing in the centre of both tables, not lit but you know. :-)

[Xeron3D]

Thanks for the comment ThinkTank! I was also thinking that the scene looks more like an Italian Cafe, so I guess I should rename it lol. Thanks for the idea for the candles also. I will try to make some. I also want to make some spaghetti or something for the food but I'm not exactly sure how to make it lol. Any more comments? Thanks! :smug:

[Johnzie]

I like more teh last one. Do you made the metal texture?...

[Xeron3D]

Thanks Johnzie. The metal textures/materials are finalRender-metal materials, and I just added a really small noise bump map onto it. Well I'm finally done with the scene, and it's new name is the Italian Cafe (instead of the formally Spanish Cafe.) Comments and critiques please! :smug:

http://img54.echo.cx/img54/8947/italiancafe7mp.jpg

[Stylus]

Good progression, but im sure the table cloth would have some sort of overlapping going on around the edge, at the moment it is sort of moulded to the table.
http://www.charmecasa.it/tov.pied_grande_.jpg
^^


stylus...

[Xeron3D]

I know it's a late post, but I just have a quick question. My Italian Cafe didn't get in the 3D Total Gallery, but for some weird reason a VERY simple scene got in. Go into the scenes gallery section and look at the newest image (at the time of this message). It's a simple bathroom scene with a couple of lights and 2 similar materials.

I was wondering how that got in. Is it really that great? (No offense to the author). I don't mean to complain or anything, but it's just very odd how that gets in and my Cafe scene doesn't, when compared to each other...