speed modelling challenge - week 48 - Star Wars

[Renz]

Zerzil, Ilkejav mk5, Adomas

Ha! THX ... were you saying "Thanks", or are you playing up THX? :D
Struck me as REAL funny today for some reason.


Zerzil

PS - To the non-THX lovers out there, it was a surround sound certification criteria created by George Lucas - who incidentally also created the source for this week's (two weeks) topic.

Hi! I think it was Adomas who started saying THX for 'Thanks' in his posts 29 & 32.. I love the logo THX the day i saw it. More about it here THX (http://www.thx.com). May be will model one too :lurve:

[JAPO]

Nice one, Marty :) It is nice to see someone has been playing Rebel Assault II :)

[Marty_McFly-3DT]

Hmm... that's funny. I've never played Rebel Assualt 1 or 2. I just saw a couple desgins that I thought would look good melded together. That was the Genesis of the Phantom Shuttle. :smug: Actually I've been looking for a good SW game to play... I heard Rougue Squadron III was pretty good, but I've been leaning towards the Lego Star Wars game.

[mike437]

This is Anakin's Pod Racer
Program:3DS MAX 7
Model time: all 60 minutes
Texture Time: Long time
Render time: 40 seconds

[RideStowe]

can we see a close up of the wire? and maybe could ye give an explanation on how ye made it?

[subcrocodile]

hey guys i prepared a tutorial of lightsaber effect.i am sharing it with u.i hope it will give an idea to friends here.i am a beginner in 3d,i respect all masters here, i am sure they know much much better than me.but i wanted to post it.it is 2 parts.i send first one now.

[subcrocodile]

this is second part.

[fastrak]

Marty
Got to hand it to ya....I really like this shuttle of yours. Very, very clean mesh. Excellant job on the modeling. Way to go.

[Nojoy]

Great Job on that turbine MIKE and its well textured too especially the gfx on the cockpit seem close to the real thing..
Also awesome Job on that I think lambda shuttle MARTY. I was about to start on that one aswell. After taking a closer look you really seemed to nail the objects and references I have on image planes.

SubC nice Tutorial im sure many max users here will find it usefull. :)

[subcrocodile]

thanks nojoy.if it is usefull for anyone then it is on purpose.i hope i am not making dirt in this forum with this tutorial thing.
nojoy
u haf prepared a city scene of coruscant planet or kinda.i wish u create a complete well done scene of futuristic city,and i am very curious how to do it.

[RideStowe]

sub can we see the end-effect?

[subcrocodile]

here it is.
hey guys if u want i can send the tutorial of realistic movement trick of litesabre.

[adamos]

Simple explanation. THX stands for thanks. Thats all. No hiden minings.

[electroglyph]

u haf prepared a city scene of coruscant planet or kinda.i wish u create a complete well done scene of futuristic city,and i am very curious how to do it.
If you like to do alien cities then you should learn from an alien. Everyone swears rudy actually has tenticles. Check out his website http://www.rochr.com/ Click on the tutorials section and be amazed.

[Nojoy]

very nice thanks Electroglyph to bad i dont use bryce... but its very high class content love that lips and eyes tutorials and many others. I didnt see a skyline scenes in the tutorial section however too bad.... but a great hallway tutorial.

[Bacon]

Went for something really original.....
3ds Max 7
Mental Ray
Photoshop CS

[Stylus]

Lots of great work here, so well done everybody.
Ok, this isn't an entry, I started the challenge and then completely forgot what I was doing and spent a whole hour just making the main shape hull shape so... :-D anyway I thought you guys n girls might like to see.
Possibly finish this when I have less work todo.




stylus...

[RideStowe]

yes it's crap and i have to go to class now -_- i hate how little spare time i have.

[subcrocodile]

here is the movement of saber tut.i hope u enjoy.it is very easy for all users of max.

[subcrocodile]

this is the scene of 3 composed.

[ferron]

lol "star wars"...


...well i think its funny...

[Crazy_mike]

ferron you picture is awsome.

[Marty_McFly-3DT]

Fastrak: Thanks bud... I'm glad you like it. As you can see... I'm really pushing for a mention this week. Now if I could just get certain people to stop making great models... I may have a chance! ;P

Nojoy: Yeah... it was a Lambda Class Shuttle... but seeing as how I'm a Mad Scientist and all... I had to make some changes. I replaced the standard shuttle wings with that of an experimental shp called the Tie Phantom. I also stripped the experimental cloaking device and made some changes to that aswell. It now sends out multiple signals in the form of other ships to confuse tracking systems making a target lock extremely difficult for Rebel Fighters. Speed and manuverability equal to a Tie Advanced with the firepower of a Tie Bomber... it's ready to teach those Rebel Dogs to roll over and be dead!
:haha:

[Nojoy]

Quite fancy for a Transport Ship Marty... I would feel safe in it thats for sure.
Stylus I think also did a good intital start Job on his lambda shuttle, too bad he couldnt finish that one aswell.

Rebel definatly funny image, like the way you lined them up to form the Words. Good Idear.

[Stylus]

Thanks Nojoy, maybe ill try and finish it next week.





stylus...

[Black]

TheGimp;
Your image shall be discussed this evening. But you had better prepare yourself to getting disqualified.
Your offencive entry is not too acceptable.

SubCrocodile;
From a VERY simple reason... nothing is vivid enough to be judged.
In your image nor your wire.

NoJoy;
MAtters concerning the judging and or rewarding are not in my area but in Andy's... you would be better asking him instead.

Mike437;
A double post is a double post.. what ever the reason be.


Black

[Nojoy]

Now see I thought you would handle that for us all, knowing you like the idear being also as a frequent runner up in the past

Ill ask him ... im sure you have better things to do ... ;)

[Black]

...being also as a frequent runner up in the past...Hehehe.. rub it in won't ya :(


Black

[subcrocodile]

Master Black
aye u r right.no more to say about my work.

[Smack Monkey]

TheGimp;
Your image shall be discussed this evening. But you had better prepare yourself to getting disqualified.
Your offencive entry is not too acceptable.

Personal Lubricant is offensive? I thought it was funny. Loosen up a little. It's not racist or demeaning and it's not explicit. Certainly it's not hall of fame material but anybody who spends an hour on such a silly joke is OK in my books, You go Gimp. :evil:

[Ilkejav mk5]

Hello again, this is my third submission. after the last model I thought that i should use the models to make a short animation, make them fight each other or something... I also thought i'd need bad guys for the animation... so there it is, a trade federation Droid starfighter.

[subcrocodile]

ilkejav mk5
did u make the trade federation base? or it is scene only.this is nice job u haf made.

[rjam]

here is my first entry ever for this competition. Its Y-wing. Its made by simple poly modeling and some primitives... I also use cool greeble plugin (really good stuff)... hope its good enough...

Modeling: 60mins
Texturing and other stuff: aprx. 3 hrs
Rendering: 5mins

[PKT]

This are a moisture vaporator, they are located in the dry area's in the star wars galaxies, as on the planet Tattoine.

Modeled in Wings3d, textured and rendered in 3d studio max

Modeling time: 60 min
Texturing time: 20 min
Rendering time: 62 min

[Rashika-3DT]

lol personal lube is offensive, whereas the dildo that someone posted during the hand tool comp is not? is it becuase it is star wars lube? would it be more offensive if it was a star wars lightsaber dildo?

i just think its a little bit overreacting. sure, dont judge it as a winner, and dissalow the post for being an entry that is not meant to win, but dont dq him for doing something silly. if you were to add in the rule that images/subissions that are only meant as a joke will be grounds for disqualification, then you would have to be very clear on the point of what would constitute an invalid entry.

dont take this post in any way to mean that im trying to tell you how to run things, these are just my suggestions as to how things could be run.

[Nojoy]

The Gimp ... I would buy it if it was laying around at safeway and give it a try... hey why not??? It states it has the Force. But one thing comes to mind if using it one would limit the effect of the Force actually.... never mind.

I think if a supermaket sells it than one shouldnt be too offended by it unless a relative of someone has slipped because of it and got hurt. I doubt very highly that this happend to anyone here however. Keep it Loose (in terms of disqualifying Black ;) )

I have to say goodby for now to this challenge moving but ill be back in time .. till then and best of luck to all artist here.

[Black]

The statement goes as 'it shall be decided"
I hope you noticed that it is not removed or anything.
Guys; If you go back a bit more and check on the helmet week when a condome was removed by Andy for simply the same reason.

Yes a 'force lupricant' is offencive as in a manner it is used and meant. Keep in mind that we have a member span of a great variaty that we are obligated to respond to. And not to all does this imply to be funny.

About the dildo.. I would offer following up on events a bit better before pointing fingers: I was not around since my health had gotten the better of me (I love you guys.. but definately not THAT much).
The reaction would be the same, had I followed up.

I would propose you all let it go.


Black

[RideStowe]

Ilkejav mk5: wow judges let him win! they are so good!

rashika: it was a vibrator, not a dildo :P

PKT: why such a long render time? doesnt seem too complicated

[Ilkejav mk5]

ilkejav mk5
did u make the trade federation base? or it is scene only.this is nice job u haf made.

it's a scene only, it's a screen shot from the movie itself... I just pasted the model and lit it well...

Rjam: wow, excellent entry! very well done, and welcome to the forum!

PKT: good entry, clean mesh and very detailed for such a simple object.

[Rashika-3DT]

consider it let gone? :) i didn't mean it to sound like i was telling you what to do, i am in no way conceited enough as to think that my way is the only way. i wasnt aware of the recent health problems of our beloved moderator Black and was only beseeching you keep some uniformity in your judging and rating. please allow me to show my deepest regrets and sincere apologies to any that my post has offended, and for any misunderstandings that may have arisen from my previous post.

[fastrak]

ilkejav mk5
Thats 3 great ones in a row from you.....now stop it! lol :)
Really, excellant presentation.

rjam
Welcome to the forums. Awesome first entry. Kudos.

PKT
Well Done! Nice detail. Good job.

well, I've been working on one...one of those space ship type thingys. Not going so well for detail. Got to give it up to those that have done so well on that. Gonna keep trying to get something to post. We'll see.

[Ilkejav mk5]

i'm terribly sorry fastrack and everyone else but I have one more that i need to model so that i have my complete set... then i'll be done...

:halo:

Ridestowe: lol, thanx, but there are better entries.

[PKT]

RideStowe: I don't have much of a rendering knowlage yet, hehe, 2 skylights with "Cast Shadow", I tried to make a more solid shadow, without using omni or spot. but a failure, when I finally was done rendering I thought I could send it in, cus it didn't look as bad as one as my first renders, and I don't know how to make a better one...

Thank you very much Ilkejav mk5 and Fastrak, aprichiate the kind words.

Very cool Y-wing model rjam, cool scene and textures to. Keep them coming :)

[ronnyhen]

PKT
there's no need for 2 skylights.. the effect is the same :) a skylight lits the entire scene wherever it's placed :) it kinda lightr the sun, hence the name skylight.
for sharp solid shadows you'll have to use omni or spot. with a spot for example you can create just the schadows by turniong off the light but leaving on the 'cast shadow' option.

btw. omni's and spots are alot more rendertime friendly ;)

Everyone
Nice models going around! I'd love to join in but my arms are giving me a hard time :( (RSI :(:() so i can't spent to much time behind the computer for now.

[raven2k4z]

Damn i'm glad that this speed modelling challenge still lives on!
I haven't been active for a very long time, but I think i'm going to try next weeks challenge. If theres time.

Good Job so far guys!

[Avorio]

This is my post, a katana-style lightsaber, really simple.
Modelled in about 30 minutes, 10 for materials, some seconds with Brazil for rendering.

[Marty_McFly-3DT]

Avorio: That's an interesting concept. Pretty cool idea. Now just mention what software you made it in and you'll be all set. (I figure using Brazil that it was made in 3D Studio Max... but it's still in the rules... you must state your software to compete.) :)

[PKT]

Thank you ronnyhen!, then I have learned something usefull today to :)

[adamos]

Helo people come to my WIP. There is lot of work nom made it by me. And it its all about Star Wars.

[RideStowe]

Helo people come to my WIP. There is lot of work nom made it by me. And it its all about Star Wars.

/end shameless self-promotion :P

[thegimp]

Black...sorry for the post..it was only intended as a joke and certainly not as a winning post. If it that big of a deal...i have no problem removing the entry as it was only for the fun of it. Perhaps i should have stated on the tube that it was for novelty purpose only and not to be used on/in/by/consumed by adults/children.

That too was joke..

[panki]

hmm sorry but why this week doesnt end when it should ? ... im waiting for next challenge

[RideStowe]

hmm sorry but why this week doesnt end when it should ? ... im waiting for next challenge

they assumed people would keep submitting, and they still are, but not as much as they had hoped i'm afraid. there's only so much to model.

[Ilkejav mk5]

Ridestowe: well, I don,t think so, there is plenty to model, people think you can model only lightsabers, come on, there is about 2000 ships to choose from and hundreds of guns, characters, etc, etc...

[RideStowe]

ok i did a quickie, dunno if this qualifies as star wars but i hope it does.

info in pic.

[Ilkejav mk5]

HAHA! great one Ridestowe! I was waiting for someone to do that!

[ronnyhen]

Ridestowe
Superb! I missed that one.. tought it would be one of the first :) Next to the lights-saber stuff :)

PKT
Your welcome. The thing with skylight is that is looks quite kewl and it's easy but it not really render-friendly. Especially on models more detailed then the max-teapot so it often needs lots of tweaking.

[Black]

It was more because of requests for the wek to be extended. By too many of yourselves.

And I would heva to double ilkejav mk5 post with anything else I should add to this.


Black

[Smack Monkey]

new avatar, Darth Smack Monkey

[PKT]

Thanks again ronnyhen, so what kind of light scene would you have used on a simple model like my vaporator?
The model is imported from Wings3D, this means it really looks imported, because the polys get a bacl and white shade, that makes it hard to see how the lights react.

[fastrak]

Rebel Snowspeeder
Not particularly happy with this, just because of all the little details that I ran out of time to do. Overall it came out well, I think. I tried several times to box model this, and it just didn't work. I found another model at sci-fi3d at theforce.net and it appeared that using shapes and converting to edit mesh was the way to go. I also use glue 3d to get some of the panel lines on the wings. I had made renderable splines, use glue to get them to the wings, then used power boolean to imprint the shape. Then select the cuts and extrude out. Thought it was going to kill my pc for as long as that operation took. I didn't spend enough time on the texture, but I wasn't feeling well. So here's the end product. c&c always welcome.
info on the pic.

[mboi]

HI Fastrak, I never would have thought about using glu 3d for that and I dont really understand what you meen when you say you used glu to get the splines to the wings but the model is a good one I must say.

[electroglyph]

Excellent Fastrak,
Did you do the wing sections flat then rotate them into position? Or did you model at an angle like that? Rhino has a command called Project that will write curves on surfaces but you have to be in one of the plan views to use it.

[PKT]

You amaze me everytime Fastrak, no crits, looks just like they did in Empire.

[fastrak]

Thanks mboi, electroglyph, and PKT for the kind words.
I have made a couple of screenshots of how I did the wing and used glue3d
for the cut panels. I hope it makes sense. This process you see in about 8 steps took less than 4 minutes. Real quick and easy, once I figured it out.

Screen shots links
Screen shots 1-4 (http://img291.echo.cx/img291/9441/large19gt.jpg)

Screen shots 5-8 (http://img295.echo.cx/img295/9245/large20un.jpg)

enjoy

[Ilkejav mk5]

wow. good model fastrack. but you,re right, you could have worked on the textures more, it kinda looks like a toy, mut meh... really cool. awesome!

[RideStowe]

thanks for the comments guys, i assumed it would've come onto here sooner as well.

fastrak: you never cease to amaze me, gj, very gj

[mboi]

Thanks Fastrak, another way is to use the top viewport and then draw a shape with Autogrid checked. I think it gives the same result.

[rjam]

Ilkejav mk5: thanx. i realy like yours scene with that droid starfighter... cool one

fastrak: wow... awesome snowspeeder

Now here is my second entry... I'm still not satisfied with those textures but here it is

[adamos]

Fastrak the best as always. Como one man give a chace to some one else to win.

[RideStowe]

rjam: great one! i was wondering when someone would make it :) good time too!

[eagle4]

Fastrak: i would be extremely happy to make something like that in under 1 hour, and i think many others here on this site would also be happy with that result, so dont be hard on yourself for not putting in the details, it looks awesome man... keep up the good work



eagle4

[adamos]

One thing RideStowe why are you heate me so much :P. Why.
BTW rjam nice jawa tank. i realy like it.

[SeamZ2B]

I hate you so much because of your signature

[RideStowe]

One thing RideStowe why are you heate me so much :P. Why.


i belive SeamZ2B summed it up my reason nicely, hehehe

[Marty_McFly-3DT]

Heh... all you people who can't model R2D2 in 1 hour are sissies! Geeze... what's so hard about modelling the coolest droid ever created in 60 mins? I did it in 30!

3D Studio Max 7, 30 mins modelling

Lego R2D2:

[RideStowe]

dude, that took you thirty whole minutes? lol

[fastrak]

Marty!
Legos! Love it. Great going.

[Marty_McFly-3DT]

RideStowe: Yeah... the head and body are two separate pieces you know! Let alone the detail on the legs... I thought 30 mins was pretty good! :D

Fastrak: Heh... Thanks dude. Brought back memories from the Lego challenge. Black can eat my dust! :smug:

[I3ear17]

Well, after coming tonight and seeing Fastrak's KICK-A$$ model of the snowspeeder, I am a bit embarassed to post this. But since I put in the time, might as well. Fastrak, you rock. That is such an awesome model.

The tutorial in the Max6 book was not helpful as to creating the Unwrap UVW wireframe. Anyone have any good tutorial sites that explain how to create them? I would like to get my flattened wireframe into Photoshop to paint. The book just describes how to paint them, but not get the wires (as far as I could tell)

Here is what I could get done in an hour...

[sleeper]

its the 6th of june now
where's the new challenge ???

[Avorio]

Avorio: That's an interesting concept. Pretty cool idea. Now just mention what software you made it in and you'll be all set. (I figure using Brazil that it was made in 3D Studio Max... but it's still in the rules... you must state your software to compete.) :)
Yes, i used 3D Studio Max 6

[ronnyhen]

Marty
lol dude.. lego rules :p

I3ear17
Still not bad tough.. at least we can see what it is. I couldn't do a better job.. i'm not really a speed-model person (especially now with my rsi problems :( )

PKT
sorry for the late reply but as stated above i've got some rsi issues which makes me unable to work with a computer for more then an hour a day :(
I would probably still use about the same setup. 1 skylight 1 omni/spot for those extra shadows. might even kill the light on the omni/spot and just keep the shadows.
btw. best don't use scanline renderer for Global Illumination as it's painly slow at it..

[mboi]

I3ear17 the quickest way to do it is to get a screen grab or you could use the plugin texporter it's quite easy to use.

texporter here (http://www.cuneytozdas.com/software/3dsmax/#Texporter)

tutorial here (http://www.ghostrecon.net/html/texporter.htm)

[RideStowe]

in leu of marty's post, i felt this was necessary

info in pic

[fastrak]

Jedi Hologram Projector
Just a quick one. Had to collapse the meshsmooth on the 3 interior thingys so I could boolean them. Used a flat cylinder with booleaned chamfered cylinder for the inner part, torus for the outer part and loft for the 3 wierd looking things on the outside. Textures came out really funky. Vray doesn't like darktree procedurals very much I guess. Won't do that again.
info on the pic.

[mboi]

Fastrak for somebody who thought he wasn't going to enter you aint half banging them out. I find you can also get some bizarre results with Brazil and darktree, nice to mess about with though especiallty using vertex paint.

[ronnyhen]

RideStowe : nice one :) but why the long rendertime? is it the caustics? nice detail in the bubbles tough

Fastrak: what's so 'funky' about the textures? they seem ok.. just maybe the 'rusty' one is too specular.. nice model

[fastrak]

rjam
Great going on the sandcrawler. Good Job on the composite also. Keep it up!

Adamos
Thanks for the comment! But your the one on this competition.

eagle4
Thanks...yeah, I'm hard on myself sometimes. Need to be to improve.

I3ear17
Good going on the snowspeeder. When possible, surround yourself with reference images. I had well over 50 at different angles to look at. Plus I found the blueprints to really help alot. mboi suggests using the texporter, and I agree. That's what I used on my snowspeeder.

RideStowe
lol. nicely done m8. The plastic wand has perfect materials. Good job.

mboi
Thanks for being so extra kind. I'm glad I'm not the only one with bizarre results with darktree. In vray, they are so slow, and don't show there "real" result until settings for final render are way up.

ronnyhen
Thanks...and your right. :)

[electroglyph]

Here's Otoh Gunga, The underwater city on Naboo.
I used the project command to transfer curves onto the causway and sphere.
I used the transfered curves to split the surfaces.
On the sphere, I used offset solid to extrude the surfaces into solids.
The other spheres visable through the glass are just textures applied to plain spheres.

[Hermes]

The Throne Room
Hi all, this is my second (or first since last one took me 66 minutes to long to model). One of my favorites locations in starwars universe. I don't kwon if locations are valid as entries (i haven't seen a lot of entries like that). Hope you like it.
Nice entries everyone.

[RideStowe]

ronnyhen: the render time was because i was feeling lazy and auto-set vray to highest setting, knowing that it didn't make a difference because i would be sleeping, so the higher quality, the better.

fastrak: thanks for the comment, this is my 4th entry on this topic and the only one i've had time to texture(well, materials anyways) :P
btw, nice hologram-thinger, the boolean is a bit messy though, you coulda done that in edit mesh

[adamos]

Ok now my signature is much smaller. As for you Fastrak if (as you sey) im the one, then you must be alfa & omega (allmighty) lol :)

[Black]

Everyone is equal until proven winner :D

[adamos]

you got that right Black.

[shamohan]

Dear Friends

here is another model,


3dsmax 7
time: 39 mins
Photoshop

Thanks


Good luck everybody


Sha

[Rashika-3DT]

shamohan... i just wanted you to know... your avatar kinda creeps me out. creepy baby gives me the willies.
good jb on the spaceship though... is that one in star wars? dont think i ever noticed it.

[adamos]

Rashika something is wrong whit your avatar.

[RideStowe]

shamohan: what reerence did ye have for that? i dont think i've ever seen that ship

[I3ear17]

Ronnyhen - Thanks for the support

Mboi - Thanks for the links, I will have to try to texture the speeder tonight if I have time.

I can repost that textured as long as I don't change the mesh correct?

[Rashika-3DT]

whats wrong with my avatar? is it because it is now a pair of shoes? or is there something wrong with it? i changed it to shoes because i was bored of looking at my gimp triped thing.

[thegimp]

Hey Ridestowe...good job n the lego lightsabre...how did ya get that texture for the blade part?

[adamos]

ok rashika, its your avatar.

[Marty_McFly-3DT]

In leu of RideStowe's post, I felt this was necessary...

3D Studio Max 7, 45 mins modelling

Darth Maul:

[fastrak]

electroglph
Way to go! Nice job. Love the city. 5 hour render...boy, you've got a lot of patience. Not me. :)

Hermes
Very nice dude! Excellant scene. And yes, locations or scenes can be valid entries. See nothing wrong with yours. Good One!

RideStowe
Thanks. Actually, the boolean came out much cleaner than my attempts at edit mesh. I needed to give it a hard edge, and it just wasn't working the other way.

Shamohan
Well done. I, too, am not familiar with this one. Is it of your own design with respect to star wars, or is there an actual ship?

I3ear17
Yes! but only as you stated.

Marty
You kill me. Thats great! Where are you getting your textures from? Don't tell me you own these....oh my, legos and star wars...such a deadly duo. No hope for rehabilitation for the Mad Scientist, I guess. lol :)

[RideStowe]

marty, you slay me mate. i love how you used my exact wording in the post, you're tempting me to post my lego pirate i made last year, hehe. but my lego-blade still looks better. as for the material i used, thegimp - it was just a simple glass material i made a few months ago with a green tint.

[RideStowe]

the hood looks amazing marty, gj, i didn't feel like editing my above post :P

[Curtis Martin]

Are we allowed to use Zbrush?

[ronnyhen]

Are we allowed to use Zbrush?

as far as i know you can use any modeling program you like..
just be sure to tell which one you used and remain within the 60min time-limit

Marty
Dude that's sweet :D love the texture!

[RideStowe]

yea i think zbrush coutns as modelling time not texture time(there is no texture time limit)

[Black]

Anything adding up to the modeling time has to be limited to the time limit.
You can use any software that gets you there... even a 2D editing software of your choice to generate a curve to brail or a displacement map to convert into a mesh...

Just make sure that you don't go over the time limit.

The only softwares we do not allow are ones that litterally do the modeling for you by generating Lego's, rocks, heads, faces, chains, gears, knots, gems and etc... As a result what ever you post has to be 100 percent created by you.


Black

Note: A texture map used for a bump value is acceptable to be created outside the time limit as is a colour map... the situation of adding it to the time limit goes for displacement maps only.
Shall the bump map be doing an EXTREME change it would be wise for you to present a clay render.

[Marty_McFly-3DT]

Fastrak: Thanks again dude. He was really fun to make... mainly because I was really excited to make a Darth Maul figure. As for the textures... although they are from the original figure... I don't actually own them. :( I put more work into Maul then R2... since I actually reworked Maul's textures... while R2's textures are right off the reference photo!

RideStowe: Hehe... thanks. Although your Saber is pretty... it's missing a detail in the end of the blade. There are little extrusions that are missing from yours so... ;P

Ronnyhen: Thanks dude... I'm glad people are liking those textures. :smug:

Everyone: I made a small turntable animation of the head to show off the hood a bit better. Anyone interested can download it here: Click Me!!! (http://s7.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3LCE91MIVNGZP3TJNTUD04G5KR) But it's only there for 7 days from this post. Thanks a lot guys!

[fastrak]

Naboo Royal Blaster - Padme Amidala
Another quick one....wanted to do at least one blaster. :) Seen briefly in Episode 1 in retaking of the Naboo Palace.

Info on the pic

[Brodix]

Fastak:Your a Naboo Royal Blaster. Oh and nice model too

Marty: Nice model as well, good times. I will try another model again for McFly Labs.

[Rashika-3DT]

i would like to state for the record that he who works for industrial light and magic modelling these things shall be spurned for their very existence, not to mention their inestimable talent. i personally believe that if i were ever hired on without any sort of formal training in any career involving the work in three dimensions that i would promptly be relieved of duty after having several failed attempts at anything lucas-y.

i am still attempting to complete this god forsaken tie fighter. this making my seventh attempt at trying to figure out how to do it while retaining my ability to use meshsmooth, and also without attaching any extra mesh. the particular problem only arises when i come upon the front window. where the "bars" are, that frame the window. for some reason they refuse to hold their shape after applying the meshsmooth modifier. i've tried chamfering, extruding and creasing these edges, as well as welding certain vertices to avoid some strange mesh errors.

invariably i come across one of these problems.

the frame will turn rounded, and the "windows" become the shape of a sort of flower.

the vertical edges, (to the direct left and right sides of the window) become indented and no amount of cutting and welding i have done has managed to assuage this tendency.

otherwise, the window less frequently displays strange artifacts, vertices jumping out at me like a like a ghoul from the abyss, as well as losing all resemblance of a window in an attempt to play doctor with the other infinite side of the y axis, x axis, or the z axis. these last problems resulting from my inordinate frustration and vertex welding fury, i deem these last problems something that could (hopefully) be avoided.

another sad consequence of my welding fury is that i have failed to save any one of these failed creations due to my hand clicking on the "no" button when i hit reset. due to my experience, i beieve i could muster up a wireframe of the "window" portion in just under 3 minutes, but as of now, it is late, and the pillows know my name. if you wish for a wireframe of the aforementioned mesh issues, please reply and i will be glad to supply any and all angles that one might require to become equally frustrated. (or laugh uncontrollably at some simple thing i have overlooked) thanks in advance, and i apologise for my spelling.

[Marty_McFly-3DT]

Rashika: Hey... I work for ILM and I take great offense to your statement! (Insane Looney Models) ;P

As for your problems... well here's two suggestions.

#1, Stop trying to model it from 1 piece of geometry! There's no reason for it. Just create your basic shape and then add on new pieces to create the look you're going for. Andy has been stressing the point that we're here to learn new ways of modelling different things... to expand on the knowledge we have with new techniques. Give it a shot... you've nothing to lose!

#B, If you are hell bent on making it out of 1 piece of geometry... you're going to have to make smoothing groups your best friend. Then you can tell Meshsmooth to smooth everything over according to the smoothing groups you set up. That's the best way to apply Meshsmooth on mechanical parts. (Although others will tell you to avoid Meshsmooth altogether when modelling mechanical... you can use it if you use it right.) Alright soldier... you may commence modelling.

FireFly: I wondered where you ran off to. The Labs have been lacking lately... what with only having me hold down the Fort. Come on dude... model something great and win one for the team!

3DMadness!!!

[Rashika-3DT]

wait... did i mention completely obvious? marty... tomorrow i will see if you are my hero.

[mboi]

Rashika Marty is right, if your trying to do complex modeling in an hour there's no rule that says everything has to be from the same piece of geometry. Something are just impossible to do in the time limit so you have to make allowances.

[RideStowe]

for mechanical objects, it is much easier to use just primitives and actually not even edit the meshes at all. yoiu'd be surprised what you can do with cylinders and boxes :)

[Brodix]

Rashika: Thats actually the same problem I had at first. Everything I modeled up to the Toaster was 1 piece, and I would just use a smooth proxy to see what I am making. Using Multiple pieces leaves for a cleaner mesh, and faster models.

[thoughtforms]

my second entry for the Star Wars challenge... i'm not sure if anyone has modelled it yet.. don't remember seeing it...

unfortunately i didnt have enough time to do the cockpit and propellers.. :xx:

[Neomax]

are u guys still in Star Wars fever?
im now out of star wars....i've got Mrs.Smith fever..... ;)
....psssskkk !

NEO:max:

[RideStowe]

propellers.. :xx:
when did it have propellers?

also, i think someone should make the set-version of it was clear wheels and a bar on one side holding it up :P

[shamohan]

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REPLY TO RideStowe
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Dear Friend,

Normally i dont use any reference in my modelling, when i know the subject , i visualise some thing in my mind, you can see all my modelling before.

ofcourse, i saw all modelling in 3dtotal before i start for the competition, and i am a beginner in 3ds max.I dont know what is the real things in starwars, because i didnt see the movie yet :-)),.My profession is different, but i love 3ds max very much.


Thanks for the comment


Sha

[subcrocodile]

hey rashika
u made a speech that non-english persons like me cannot understand wat u tell.i could not find the 2 words meanings u used that r "asemblence , protion" .
if u explain the meaning of these 2 words i shall be happy. thanks
Marty_Mcfly
very nice lego works.
Fastrak
so good models u have done, like always.

[shamohan]

rashika... i just wanted you to know... your avatar kinda creeps me out. creepy baby gives me the willies.
good jb on the spaceship though... is that one in star wars? dont think i ever noticed it

My Reply....................

To do things with 3Ds Max is my dream. I have little time to spend on 3Ds Max, as I am business man, working 12 hour days. I have a real interest in graphics. So after my work day, is independent study from 11pm to 2am. I used many 3D Total tutorials to help me. Along with the help of two kind members of 3D Total, I began developing some of my own ideas.

I have never used any reference model for my modeling. I have not seen the movie Star Wars. My model is of my own making.I appreciate your comments, anyone's comments, on my models. That helps me to find mistakes and improve.

Best regards,

Shamohan

[Black]

Marty_McFly;
Just now reinstalling MaYA...
After days of hardware break-down; I am BACK to accept your challange!

FEAR ME! :evil:

(Though not to steel from anyones modeling ideas I think I should still wait til the last hours to post mine :hmm: )

Curtis Martin;
Zbrush entries have this "Situation" with the wireframe... we have to have some sort of an idea about your base mesh....
If you used a sphere you would best state it, and even then you would be requested to post a wire of the simpler form of the entry as everyone else is doing.

Good Luck everyone!


Black

[eagle4]

hey thoughtforms can i see a screen shot of your mesh before mesh smooth was applied?



eagle4

[Curtis Martin]

I used a single sphere to begin with. I will update with a simpler meshshot in a sec.

[Rashika-3DT]

subcrocodile-

im sorry, in my sleep induced stupor i had a tendency to "fat finger" a few words.
protion=portion. meaning that i could create that "part" of the mesh.
asembelnce, i think you are referring to resemblance... it means "to look akin to" to "look alike" and used in a sentence "wow, i can really see the family resemblance."

i used it to imply that the mesh looked nothing like what i wanted it to look like; a window.

also, for the most helpful responses in answer to my question, i suppose i should explain myself.
i honestly dont mind adding in a bit of mesh, but it is the mesh problems i was referring to that i would like a solution to, because if i ever come across the same problems when modelling anything else, i could overcome it. its a learning thing, not just trying to make the tie fighter.

[adamos]

Curtis Martin you YODA looks like he is seek. Whot`s hapend. He is alergic for FORCE :P

[mboi]

rashika post your mesh in Modelling, Lighting & Rendering Help, lets take a look.

[Nojoy]

Some more awesome Modeling while I was moving, but now Im ready again and awaiting the next challenge anxiously. Great going Marty on that Lego Darth Maul. Incase some of you havent seen this Lego Stop Motion Movie (SpiderMan 2) and are fans as many seem to be take a look. I found it here looking through the animated shorts from last year for inspiration. I thought it was great. ;)

http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?id=1277883&sdm=web&qtw=640&qth=400

[Rashika-3DT]

EUREKA! thanks for asking me to remodel it for the mesh Mboi. in the end my frustration and your urging me to make a mesh to show you has yielded in no less than the results i wanted. and it only took nine tries! :) now i will begin modelling again with my newfound information and im digitally hugging all of you. maybe later i will show you how muahahah...this forum is awesome. anyhow... im off to model!

[Marty_McFly-3DT]

Marty_McFly;
Just now reinstalling MaYA...
After days of hardware break-down; I am BACK to accept your challange!

FEAR ME! :evil:

Black

Meh! Bring it on! :evil:

[Curtis Martin]

adamos, thanks for the constructive critizism. The truth is my yoda is sick.... he had some of your mother's cooking....

[Curtis Martin]

lol...actually on second thought...he REALLY DOES LOOK SICK...lol

[Black]

Meh! Bring it on! :evil:

MARTY FEARS NO ONE!

Been doing hours of investigating...
now I rock and roll :!!!:

We'll see about how scarey I can get :)

[Curtis Martin]

Heres one with a better wiremesh.
modelling 60 min
texture lighting 20 min
Max 7, Z Brush

[Rashika-3DT]

thats yodas older brother yo-duhh, who got the crap kicked outta him by a large group of ugly sticks. :)

[Brodix]

Curtis Martin: May want to delete one post or the other just in case. Never know it may be considered as a double post.

[Curtis Martin]

Done.. thanks for the advice:)

[Black]

Okay... here is another advice:

The post is aplicable when the hours; softwares etc... are all stated.


Black

[Curtis Martin]

better?

[Rashika-3DT]

here is my tie fighter (cringe) not exact to every detail by far, and im sure theres a lot of inaccurate things in it, but i won my battle over the mesh, and learned a few things along the way. if anyone else needs to know exacly how i did it, i can show you but that will take some time and another thread. for the meantime, i started with a sphere, (16 segments works well for creating the window) and maneuvered everything around until i could extrude it. in order to get the window to not have any mesh errors, and get very few "corners" i waited until the window was fully formed, then chamfered all the edges of the window frame as well as the edges that extend past the window onto the sphere. it seems as though max is much more willing to play with those verts when out in an open space. also, the chamfered edges on the oustide (where the posts are) i spread these out so it wouldnt crease the outside. anyhow... info on the pic, sorry there are no textures, maybe i'll do them later.

[Marty_McFly-3DT]

Congrats on overcoming your mesh problem. Great model... I'm glad you stood strong against your evil mesh adversary. (Did I help huh... huh... huh?) :D

[TheOnlyAaron]

Courscant Industrial Vehicle - Marc Gabbana

This is another one from from my "art of star wars, attack of the clones" book I've got. After two attempts, I still wasn't able to complete the entire model in the time allowed, thats why the little triangle piece between the tractor and the trailers isnt really done. at all. I spent all my time messing with the smoothness of the crease around the end of the big crescant peices. But seeing as I spent two hours trying, I wanted to post what I have, and hopefully someone likes it!

Time - 60 mins
Software - 3DSM 6

[Rashika-3DT]

actually marty, you did, but not on the window, im sorry to say. however you DID show me a way to make those solar panel things in a much quicker way than i had previously been able to. without the smoothing groups, ther was no way i was gonna finish as far as i did on that thing. getting that window to be one piece took about 30 minutes of my time... :/

edit: aaron? (may i call you aaron?) excellent job, i really like the way you made the little robopiece on the side, as well as the creases in the locomotive thing. very good.

[TheOnlyAaron]

Rashika : Of course call me Aaron, or TOA, or Only A, or big "A" dawg. . . well maybe not that last one. Thanks for noticing the creases, that is what took the longest, out of any little feature. if i'd left those out, i think i could have finished the locomotive section. And that closeup on your cocpit window is amazing, it is a really tight model to have started from just a shphere. Good job.

[thoughtforms]

hey thoughtforms can i see a screen shot of your mesh before mesh smooth was applied?

eagle4

of course! i hope the others won't mind....
edit: i know its far from perfect.. c&c is always welcome..

[Smack Monkey]

I'm not sure if this violates the rules but I removed my old post and replaced it with a different composition with a new view of the wire frames. I didn't change the model at all I just took some new screen caps of the wires and showed them a little larger so that it is easier to see. If that breaks the rules for double posting then DQ me or let me know and I will repost my old file. The new post is here (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?p=345852#post345852)

[Jenova]

I'm not sure if this violates the rules but I removed my old post and replaced it with a different composition with a new view of the wire frames. I didn't change the model at all I just took some new screen caps of the wires and showed them a little larger so that it is easier to see. If that breaks the rules for double posting then DQ me or let me know and I will repost my old file. The new post is here (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?p=345852#post345852)
Man, that droid is awesome, made in one hour and in my opinion film worthy!

[deathstar]

lukes lightsaber

modelling 57 mins

texture 45 mins

render 3 mins

/edit made in 3ds max 7

[PKT]

This is the mount the rebels use on the Hoth system in Empire Strikes Back.
Software: Modeled in Wings3D, made the snow in Bryce 5, rendered and textured in 3dsmax 7

Modelingtime: 60min
Texturing time: 40 min(I have no idea to make fur in 3d studio max)
Rendering: 20 sec (thanks to ronnyhen for lighting advice to make render go faster)

[sezza]

i moved from g-max which i did the helmets in, when the helmet topic was going....i'm now using more free software in the shape of blender.

modeled from a single plane...

[sezza]

blender 2.3
60 mins
no texture time
no render time

[mboi]

sezza Shame about no render, It's a pretty good model.

[yousrekh]

Hi everyone.

I'd quite like to join in with these challenges, but I don't fully understand it!

I got the impression that the challenges were to be run weekly, but that would mean there should have been one on 2nd June. Is the Star Wars challenge still open? If so, does anyone know when it closes?

Thanks!
-yousrekh

[hammering3D]

Hello yousrekh

this chalange it was a 2 week chalange because many competitors ask the admin to make it long.
and this chalnge will finish at:
22.00 G.M.T. Wednesday 8th June 2005

AND HELLO TO ALL others,
I been around and enjoy u'r models like a great show, but not time 2 drop some lines mesages, and no time to model :(, so like i said in the first page, is time to beet myself with the mouse :)

CONGRATULATION TO ALL !!!

SORRY IS 8TH NOT 1st ... So will end today, and today will start the new competiton to,i can wait ;P

[yousrekh]

Let's get busy then.

-yousrekh

[Renz]

Hi!
Modeled using extrude face and revolve a curve and Poly smooth. could not complete the finer detail on it.
Was a real good 2 week speed challenge. These speed challenges are getting real tough with so many good entries. GOOD LUCK EVERY ONE

[Smack Monkey]

Man, that droid is awesome, made in one hour and in my opinion film worthy!
Thanks for the encouragement but I don't think it's quite up GL's standards :roll:

[Smack Monkey]

cool looking gun Renz

[Black]

Mike437;
Some of us tend to make use of refference models to build our entries.
Was your pod entry (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showpost.php?p=346606&postcount=504) one of those by any chance?
I am sorry for having this a last minute stuation but I was only able to test drive some other entries.

SmackMonkey;
Yeah thats fine with me.. anything that makes our forums look prettier. :)
And by the way.. I HAVE modeled it in the hour.. wasn't as detailed or as good as yours but I got the idea ... soo I guess I will have to DQ you another time :)


Black

[Black]

Seza;
You are not permitted to use your old entries.
Even if you rebuild your Helmet entry... it is far too simiallar to qualify.

Sorry

[JAPO]

Force major caused, that I cannot post my interceptor today... but I am puzzled: it is midnight and no new challenge and no deadline reached. I wanted to ask: to when is the deadline extended? Do I still have hope to texture it and post it?

[Marty_McFly-3DT]

I doubt it Japo... it looks like time is up! :(

[JAPO]

Uh no. might try it, but it could DQ my other entries. by the way, this has been troubling me for some time: How do I know if I have been disqualified? Do I get notice? I would like to ask that as well :)

[hammering3D]

i think the chalenge is over right now, but U have time until Black or Andy will say STOP ;P
So post u'r model now.

[Andy_k-3DT]

Deadline reached and new challenge launched.

Looks like most of you had a good time with this one.

Andy

[JAPO]

OK. No point to hurry now. I will refine that Interceptor and make it Slow challenge model :)

[Black]

Well now that the time has been reached I can post and self inflict a DQ :)

The model was highly greatful to the lay out renders of an LDraw lego model or it would have never come to life... Damn these guys are hard to do.
When I had started off I had the amazinf ambition to do a commander droid, a security droid, Pilot droid version of this model.

But well not really gonna happen. I have made a cut on the head to enable a texturing to give the security droid feel... but none the less the texturing proved to be not enough :(

Modeling: MaYA; Under 60 minutes
PostWork: PShop; Under 10 minutes
Renders: MaYA & ScreenGrab's; total 20 or 25 minutes.

Hope you likes it! (There is one more to come)

[fastrak]

Good Job everyone! Was fun.

Black
I've never come across these "LDraw" legos before. Very interesting indeed. Does this have to do with ldraw.org? Fastinated.

[Black]

Ok this is another one...

I had originally intended on capturing the image I found in This Link (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=19009&item=5979938327&rd=1).

But I really couldn't do it all in the time given. Infact the poor MIni Figure suffered a great amount of loss in quality because the mask took me so long to make.
I think the helm may have taken about halve the time of the making of the mask, and the LEGO version is a lot less complex than the original helm would recommend. Even still I doubt I would have to tell you how great a challange the mask (Which you don't even see!... Should have paid attention to that!)

One thing that REALLY sat in me was that I had no time to make a cape... I have the sjablon readied.. but I just wasn't able to divide it up nice enough to deform around him as it should in the remaining few minutes. :(
EDIT; Stupid me forgot to thank RideStowe for his cool idea of putting air bubbles in to the LightSaber.
I hope you didn't mind RideStowe, that I did the same.. Not as good as yours, but I was sort of in a rush.

Modeling: MaYA; Under 60 minutes
PostWork: PShop; Under 10 minutes
Renders: MaYA & ScreenGrab's; a total of 10 or minutes.

Hope you like it!

Ps: For those who have stil not the chance to watch it : REVENGE of the BRICK (http://www.lego.com/starwars/default.aspx)!

[Black]

FastRak;
I really am not sure.. possibly should be the same. I presume LDraw stands for "Lego Draw".. It is a sort of CAD based software that intends on building up virtual LEGO sets.

Not TOO sure about the details of it.. I am just able to mention because of the name used in the model layout handed over to me.

For the Vader I had to find the toy and draw the decal still since it was a bit off to my taste. Not to mention the ****** Helmet!
But especially for the Battle Droid it gave great aid to my workflow.
I am told that it is a free software and I am going to dig into it a bit more as soon as I have my hands free'd up.

Would you like me to update you on my findings as I get back into it?


Black

[PKT]

2 interesting and fun weeks, good luck on the new challenge all!

[fastrak]

Yes, please. I took a look at the ldraw cad program, and sound like an interesting diversion. From what I understand, not only can you build virtually anything with legos, but can also print out the assembly instructions, create 3d models and animations too. Sounds neat.

[adamos]

Yes this week was very long. But now its time to sweem my frends.

[PKT]

I was just finnished with this one 10 min after this thread reached it's line, though it's to late, I'll post it just for fun and compearing to Fastrak's extrodenary one.
It's a Mouse Droid (MSE-6)

Wings3D and 3dstudio max
Modeling time: 50 min
Rendering: 23 sec
Textures made in photoshop; 50 min.

[fastrak]

PKT
Excellant! Glad you decided to go ahead with this one. Very nice on your details. Looks like you put more into it than I did. Good Job!

[Marty_McFly-3DT]

Black: Awe... how cute... a "battle-droid" that my R2D2 would destroy in a battle. I mean come on... he doesn't even have a blaster! No contest!

(Marty = 1, Black = -10000)

Now Darth Vader on the other hand... that's much better. A more equal match for my Darth Maul. Unfortunately... Maul would take Vader any day. He's more refined in his art... faster... and *ahem* better looking. ;P Although it would be a better match up... in the end Maul would win. (You would've been better off making Obi-Wan. Hehe...)

(Marty = 2, Black = -20000)

Excellent effort. Until next time! :evil: (I'm not counting the great modelling... that's to be expected. Had you failed there... I would shun you!)

[Black]

1_ Lets see now.. Ben beat your pity little guy in horns and Make-up by cutting him into two!
And Vader killed Ben; vapourising him into pure force... So that doesn't REALLY make yours seem any bit stronger!

2_ There is mass evidence of a BattleDroid overpowering R2.... not one that I recall reading of R2 overpowering a Battle Droid. :D
Blaster or no blaster!
(The darn 60 minutes goes just TOO fast when you attmep things like this I WANTED to do a blaster; but it was OUT of the question!
These models cost me something around 6-7 hours. As I look at them it is a bit shocking to have had spent so much time on it all ... but well)

3_ You know you can never beat me... I have the 'force' to butt into your post and change the scores at any time! :)


Thanks Marty... I was not going to go for them actually especially after the Lego Challange. Those Mini-Figures are too difficult to make.
Your Entries sort of got me motivated.. they look SO CUTE when rendered don't they?


Black

Ps: Just for the record... I love R2. No offence intended... Just clowning around.

[Marty_McFly-3DT]

Geeze Black... accept your loss gracefully man.

R2D2 took out not 1 but 2 Super Battle Droids (The big droids with the two blasters built in to the arm) without braking a sweat! (BTW, that was in Episode III for those who don't know.) What chance does a regular battle droid stand?

As for Vader beating Maul... you've got to be kidding me. Obi-Wan beat Darth Maul fair and square... but Vader only beat Obi_Wan because he let him! He was tired of running around galaxies fighting the Dark Side. He knew it was Luke's destiny to face Vader anyway. No matter how you attempt to cheat... Vader (Young or Old) could never beat Darth Maul!

You've been served! ;P

(Hehe... that was a nice touch changing my post!)

[mike437]

Mike437;
Some of us tend to make use of refference models to build our entries.
Was your pod entry (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showpost.php?p=346606&postcount=504) one of those by any chance?
I am sorry for having this a last minute stuation but I was only able to test drive some other entries.



Yeah. I used blueprints found on google.

[kogh]

yo hope im not TOO LATE

(first time tryin this) even if i didnt make it in time i had fun doin this

time: 55 minutes
software: 3dsmax 7 / brazil r/s

[Ilkejav mk5]

sorry to break the news kogh, but it is too late... nice post though, did you use any plugins for the detail (greeble for example)?

NICE MODELING EVERYONE! FUN WEEK ALTHOUGH A LITTLE LONG IN THE END!
haha! lol! :dance:

[kogh]

yes, greeble was used haha

[ronnyhen]

Hey guys, well that were 2 weeks of nice star-wars models!

PKT Nice to see your rendertime are more time-friendly these days :) nice one on the mouse-droid

[Black]

Mike437;
I am sorry but I am going to have to ask a bit more than that from you to be clarified.
Had you mentioned that you had a model as a base, than maybe things would resolve much easier.
But a search and achievement of blue-prints through Google would not explain the extreme simialarity between your entry and the model in This Link (http://scifi3d.theforce.net/downloads/Star_Wars/SWPod_Racers/large_anipod.jpg).
Shall you also examine it carefully; you can probably agree that not only myself but a few contestants happen to have a good reason to ask for you to be a bit more specific explanation.



...As for Vader beating Maul... you've got to be kidding me. Obi-Wan beat Darth Maul fair and square... but Vader only beat Obi_Wan because he let him! He was tired of running around galaxies fighting the Dark Side. He knew it was Luke's destiny to face Vader anyway. No matter how you attempt to cheat... Vader (Young or Old) could never beat Darth Maul!...Marty stop being so Marty about it all...
We both know that Anakin was much greater than Maul at any time!

When Anakine was SO young still; all on his own, he un-armed and beheaded Graaf Dooku (Does this guy play ANY role that he is not a power thursty servant?!), who was so much more powerful than Darth Maul! Not to mention that Dooku was strong enough to handle Ben, Anakine AND Yoda all at once, and also that Dooku got rid of Ben Kenobi TWO times... the same Ben that behalved Maul!
Infact that he was the guy who rid the Galaxy of Palpatine! The guy who was the MASTER of Dart MAul!
When you come to think of it aside from Yoda and later on Luke... he is the only Jedi I recall to have not been killed.

(Have we both proven that we are Nerds enough?)

What say we call it a draw?
I accept R2-D2 MiniFigure beating my wonderfully crafted, exceptionally beautiful BattleDroid MiniFigure...
And you accept that your hard worked, ever adorable, mean looking, killer model Darth Maul lost to my Unmasked-DarthVader MiniFigure.
Deal?
(You could change the socres back at any time... It was a joke at the time that just HAD to be done :) )


Black

[RideStowe]

woo black used my idea for the bubbles in the lightsaber :D i feeel so special

oh, and i rmeember ldraw, i did a couple thing with it last year, you can export the models to other programs and come out with nifty renders. this one was rendered in 3ds max/final render. the model itself took about a day or so to make.
http://www.deviantart.com/view/9438686/
and this one in vray:
http://www.deviantart.com/view/12425479/
there are many sites out therte with blueprints from actual lego sets, making them is fun. it reminds me of my childhood alot :)

[PKT]

omg RideStowe, that is the best 3d lego I'v seen, watching Lego peices really makes me think back on (infact not that long ago, :P haha) alot of very nice memories...

[Andy_k-3DT]

I'll join in on the Mike437 discussion now....

I'm sorry Mike but your explanation holds absolutely no water.

I don't believe for a minute that you modelled that in an hour, quite honestly, I share the opinion of several other members of the forum and I don't believe you modelled it at all.

What makes me say this?

well, please have a look at the attached render which i have just done and tell me honestly it is not the same as yours - right down to the colours and dirt on the textures. Now, I could claim it was a remarkable coincidence and that i used lots of reference material or I could admit it and tell you that I downloaded the model from the website Black mentioned in his earlier post just to form my own opinion.

Let this serve as a lesson to you, the 3D community, although worldwide is incredibly tight and close. cheats nearly always get caught out.

Please consider yourself disqualified from this challenge

Andy

[RideStowe]

justice has been served *salutes andy*

[yousrekh]

Why would someone do that? Seems really weird..

How can that make anyone feel good about themselves (and yes this is what is important to me :)).

[Black]

Ok RideStowe;
A few questions if you would please spare the time for...

Now firstly I love the thought of playing around with the Blocks and all.. but does it's model Data Base also have the figures or more organic forms? (I'll be honest... I am after the render layout I had of the Battle Droid, and if possible every little toy I could get my hands onto).. ohh wait.. I got it right right? There IS a model base?
EDIT; Talked too soon.. just came across THIS LINK (http://www.ldraw.org/library/updates/view0402/) with a list of ready FREE models.. with a VADER HELMET in it!!! :( .
I really liked how mine looked Though I can't really call it perfectly accurate to the original! It was just not too possible. You can sure guess what I am going to download and install NOW!)

And secondly I have been reading through a page (http://www.ldraw.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=104) I found in LDraw.org. And it seems they have a mass amount of exporters... but all for rendering softwares, not really as a mesh export.
You mentioned of exporting the models to other softwares... I have found a software to covnert it to Lightwave files. Is there any other out there that I have missed out on? :(

Just disturbing you since you seem to know more on the matter.
ANYONE who has tried modeling any LEGO peace with a Boley-Style Gauge would understand why I would really like to get my hands on ready refferences!


Folks;
What was done was wrong... The ones caught until today are possibly not the only ones; none the less it serves neither side any good to keep this thing advertised in every post.
I hope you will understand.


Black

[RideStowe]

ok black, alot of those models that you can download to the lcad thing are user-made and not necessarily entirely accurate, people try their best and yet there are still some qualities to them trhat are inaccurate. for the figures i prefer making them myself. they are fun to make and often add a personal touch to the outcome.

edit for black: sorry i didnt see your Q about exporting. i cant remember what the program was off-hand to 3ds max, but i remember that i could only export like 1/4 of the object at a time, meaning i had to import the models in 1/4 at a time then put them back together in 3ds max. when i get home i'll try and see if i can get the name of the exporter i used.

[mike437]

Sorry about that, but just for the record, I am definately not the only one who has done that on this site. For example, the very first winner of the modeling contest had that very same model on turbosquid before it was on this site so it was a previous work used on this site. I also recognized many downloaded models from the piano, toaster, and garden tool weeks. I am just not a **** to point those cheaters out publicly like you did to me. It happens way more often than you think.


EDIT; I have replaced some of your letters with Stars, and have left the rest of the text as it is.
There is no need to be faul now, even if talking to yourself or about yourself.
Thank you for your kindness and accepting.
Some models are used as refference and some are used as they are. Like all Andy has made mistakes maybe. But this shall not mean that he should go on accepting every attempt because of it. You should have reffered to more honest a reply or a private message in my polite request.
One small advice would be for you to review your case before pointing fingers. It will only get things more ugly.

Good Day Mike and all the best to you

Black-3DT

[Ilkejav mk5]

Still this is no excuse for cheating... I busted my ass trying to do my best in my models and I'm sure a whole lot of other people did... I somehow feel insulted... but then there's not much you can do about the people who like to take the short and easy path... good job Black and Andy.

[Marty_McFly-3DT]

Hey Mike437, I'm a regular here at Threedy and have been for over a year now. (I lurked for a little while first.) I know personally that I've made every model I've ever submitted from scratch. (Yes... even the crappy ones. :( ) Although I've never been tempted to submit a model made by someone else... I have been tempted from time to time to go over my 1 hour limit. I'm sure a lot of us have... you just think "10 more minutes... no one will know" but in the end I have this crappy thing called a conscience that has kept me in check. :roll: Just learn from this experience and move on dude. Although I can't speak for everyone... I can personally forgive you for making a mistake as long as you promise to be honest from now on.

As for catching other people cheating. From now on... Rat them out! Don't accept it... tell on them all! Contact Andy or Black with your evidence and make sure they don't get away with it! No one wants to be cheated out of an honest win... and all of us members have to be the Police here to keep things in order when something slips by the Mods. Good luck in the future man!

[Smack Monkey]

BlackWhen I had started off I had the amazinf ambition to do a commander droid, a security droid, Pilot droid version of this model.

I feel ya! I too had similar ambitions but at the end of the day I actually have to spend some hours working . . . for money . . . and spend some time with the family. Even going without sleep just doesn't make enough hours in the day.

Nice model though, makes me glad you're a mod now:)

One question, what the hell is a "sjablon"? Is that some kind of special maya nerd term?

[Marty_McFly-3DT]

Black
One question, what the hell is a "sjablon"? Is that some kind of special maya nerd term?

Dude... you almost had me in tears with that one! :D From the best of what I can tell... I think "sjablon" means something along an outline or pattern. As if he laid out a spline for the shape... but didn't have time to make it fit and conform the way he wanted. Please correct me anyone if I'm wrong!

[mike437]

I am very sorry about what I have done and I might keep on going with the modeling competitions, but maybe not because I have a bad mark on my record now and I know that not everyone will accept my appology. It might also make the mods skeptical about the models that I will post if I spent the allowed time or if I downloaded them from somewhere else. I might come back, but some people on this site probably wont want me back.

[fastrak]

Mike
For me, apology excepted. I would very much like to see you compete here. May be tough for a while, but so is 3d. Fun too....so join back in. :)

[RideStowe]

mike, we can only say that i for one will be watching you. and as for your future models, you'd better believe i will search every 3d database on the web before i believe it's yours. /ends intimidation.

[Black]

:o
Oops.. yeah I am sorry.. I meant "the pattern"... You know when you take Vader's head off, pull out the cape and then spread it out then scan it...
Using this not only for a texture ref but as guidence to draw your curves :(...

Well I always told you guys that English was not my mother tongue!
It felt so normal to wrie it such... Now I notice that I got a few of the languages mixed up.
Sorry for the misunderstanding Smack Monkey, and thank you for the compliment... None the less it is more the render that makes it look as good as it does here :(.



Mike;
I can guagrantee you on my part that no one is guilty in my eyes until I can definately pin serious proof.
Shall you apreciate; for the sake of "fair-play", I look at every model skeptikal and examine them thoroughly.
I can not say that I have much say in the judgings... But I do eliminate entries that sort of create an unfair competition.


Now;
I support the collecting of free models. Make the best of them as you can.
I know that I definately do. I even practice on some like I used to trace over comic strips when I was 7 or 8!
But the fragile point you have to not forget at this point is the amount of work the first modeler has put into the model you have downloaded. Just try to remain respectful, and behave grateful for to the generous contribution.
Credit should go where it is deserved. Please help boost the willingness of modelers to share their works by doing so.

And do everyone a favour; don't use them for the contests. You MAY get away with it... but WHAT IF you don't. Things just turn un-pretty for everyone.
As good as it is, a CD is REALLY not worth it.


Black

[adamos]

And who is the winner?

[RideStowe]

be patient young padawan, do not seek the winner, the winner will seek you.

[yousrekh]

How does one seek oneself?

[tokai]

How does one seek oneself?

with meditation, of coz. :)

[Destroythenseek]

This competition is to get better, not show off.
:-P lesson learned for everyone (sorry if Im a little late.)

[Smack Monkey]

I don't know if there is any point in pointing out that it has now been two months since this competition closed and still no judging. Is there some way we could make the judging easier? Seperate threads for entries and discussion maybe? Just so that there is less to go through for the judges at judging time. Perhaps mandatory titling for entrys so that they are easier to pick out of the threads.

I don't know. What I do know is that it is getting a little frusterating when the delays are so long. If it takes so long to get things judged it is likely that it will only get worse. At this rate at the end of a year only 6 out of 56 challenges would be judged. Perhaps the whole judging process needs to be re-evaluated or even (gasp) eliminated all together. Loosen up the rules a little bit and make the whole challenge purely for fun and education.

I don't have the answer to this hard question and I don't want to come across as unappreciative of all the hard work the excellent mods are doing here. But clearly something isn't working and I feel we would all like to know what is going on and if there is anything we can do to help.

[escaped_monkey]

A good point and well made.

We all know the challenges are mainly for fun and experience, and we all know that it doesn't really matter who wins - but the point remains that these are speed challenges, and I don't know about anybody else but I think trying to create the best model and getting some recognition for it is part of the fun of participating in the challenge. It's a competition, and being competitive is probably the best way to learn modelling skills.

I'm beginning to sound like a broken record here, but it's good to see veteran users like Smack Monkey feel the same way.

[Marty_McFly-3DT]

FireFly where are you!?! Hurry up and get in here quick... the monkeys have escaped again! Darn it... who left the cages open? Sheesh... I leave the lab for a few weeks and now the monkeys are running around causing a distubance!

Ok everyone... just calm down. Now just grab some bananas from over there and lure that escaped_monkey into his cage. Careful... careful... he spits. Ok... now get that other... Hey! Fastrak... don't Smack that Monkey over there! No... I don't care if he likes it... just grab some bananas and... NO! Not the stun gun! *Zzap!!* Great Fastrak... now look at what you did... you know that this is a smoke free zone. Yes FireFly... I saw the sparks. No... it was not cool. Oh well... put him out quickly and put him back in his cage before the mods get here!

[fastrak]

Ok Marty. Good tip. Don't zap the Monkey. Got it. Ah, does that mean I can't zap Firefly as well? Darn, that takes all the fun out of it. You know, the tips of his ears get real red when you do that. Besides, I like the smell of burnt hair in the morning. (yeachhh!)

[Brodix]

***Zaps Fastrak***

Your right Fastrak that was fun. :D

[Brodix]

***Picks up Fastrak's stunned body, and puts him in a cage. Locks it with a adamantium lock.***

Well now that all monkeys are back in their cages. And no more monkey scratch models from this one. :evil:

[Ilkejav mk5]

but seriously, enough of the stupid roleplaying here, I think we have a problem. when the star wars challenge ended, I was exhausted from work on a project, and i told myself "I'll join another challenge once this one has been judged." but now it's getting ridiculous, how much time has it been? 3 months? 4? maybe 5... I dunno anymore. isn't the point of a challenge like this one is to decide a winner, regardless if there are prizes to win. I seriously want and need to know if the models I submitted were any good and i think a lot of people think the same way as I do.

[RideStowe]

yea. patience is for losers.

[Marty_McFly-3DT]

but seriously, enough of the stupid roleplaying here...

My job is to lighten up the mood here... that's what I get paid for. But instead of me just telling people to "Chill Out" I get people involved an escape from the reality of the delays. Everyone is just as anxious to get the results here... Andy, Annie and Black know this... and constant complaints just do not help. We are all here voluntarally, including the Mods... no one asked us to participate... we didn't pay to compete... and yet if we win we get a nifty CD! You know what? It's worth the wait... so just Chill Out. :smug:

As for you RideStowe... your wet fish will be waiting for you at the end of the bathtub challenge. :lame:

[Ilkejav mk5]

Ok, well, sorry if I offended anyone, Marty you can continue posting your jokes here and I aint gonna stop you from doing it, and i'm sure the mods have a good reason and are doing their best... as fun as the challenges may be, I have many projects that need completing and motivation to spare some time to speed modeling has dropped to zero.

Cheers... :blah:

[Smack Monkey]

...constant complaints just do not help.

Honestly I wasn't trying to come across as a complainer. What I really want to know is what we CAN do to help, and I was hoping to kick start some thought/discussion in that direction. Not start big whine war. But I can't think with these burn marks on my @$$ (scowels at Firefly). So i'm not comming up with anything new or useful. :wall:

[Black]

I am sorry for our loss of your participation Ilkejav mk5. It is very sad to hear of.

But posts such, and a variaty of 'problem members' really give good enough reason to not fight any more for you guys. That it's really not worth it.

Yes; behind the scene the mod is doing much more than he should, even though his moral is way below zero to compair to yours.
And this is simply because unlike how it is for you (now); these competitions mean a lot to many.
Much enough to keep me from being able to turn my back on.

I would sudgest you wait for Andy to get back on his feet for the judgings.
Or simply private message him rather than enforce Marty & co to have to also work over time to keep the peace.

A thank you to all those that have held on and done their BEST to make my job easier. You guys are great!


Black

Ps; Presuming you don't already know...
All the moderators here are working of free will and are not payed/provided anything for their services.
Andy has a life and a family also.

[Ilkejav mk5]

Ps; Presuming you don't already know...
All the moderators here are working of free will and are not payed/provided anything for their services.
Andy has a life and a family also.

And your effort is well appreciated from me at least, with all the mods on threedy forum. You can consider my way of helping relieve the load by giving you one model less to judge every week. Anyway, I still visit the threads as often as i can and If i find the time I'd be happy to jump in with another model... for sure... Cheers!

[visualact.com]

I am sorry for our loss of your participation Ilkejav mk5. It is very sad to hear of.

But posts such, and a variaty of 'problem members' really give good enough reason to not fight any more for you guys. That it's really not worth it.

Yes; behind the scene the mod is doing much more than he should, even though his moral is way below zero to compair to yours.
And this is simply because unlike how it is for you (now); these competitions mean a lot to many.
Much enough to keep me from being able to turn my back on.

I would sudgest you wait for Andy to get back on his feet for the judgings.
Or simply private message him rather than enforce Marty & co to have to also work over time to keep the peace.

A thank you to all those that have held on and done their BEST to make my job easier. You guys are great!


Black

Ps; Presuming you don't already know...
All the moderators here are working of free will and are not payed/provided anything for their services.
Andy has a life and a family also.


welldon all moderator weldone :dance: YOUR THE BEST

[pepperoni90]

but... why not look for somebody else who has more spare time?

[Sidaho]

How about setting up a poll on the Wednesday night after the challenge has ended?

I don't know - something along the lines of only participants can vote and you can't vote for your own.

That way, the judging takes care of itself.

[RideStowe]

no! polls are not an effective way of judging

[Marty_McFly-3DT]

The main problem with a poll is that you would have to...


Make a list of each member that joined in.
Make a list of each model each member made.
Decide what entry from each member is worthy of a mention, runner up, and winner.


The poll system is not that detailed, and the process would take too long. All I can say is that everyone's patience will be greatly appreciated. I have it on good authority that the judging process is back in full swing and we will be seeing results very very soon.

[xcessi]

I could be wrong, but I thought the primary objective of the competition was to help us to develop our skills - especially speed.

[Marty_McFly-3DT]

Speed Modelling... not Speed Judging! ;P

[xcessi]

Well put, Marty

[Puckducker]

I could be wrong, but I thought the primary objective of the competition was to help us to develop our skills - especially speed.

While quite true, however, competition is often an excellent way to develop skills. It's much more effective than if rather than a competition it was just "If you have a model of a hubcap made in under an hour, post it here!" sorta thing. That's what the rest of the forums are for.

Competition drives us to excell.

[Sidaho]

Ah well, just an idea! I appreciate it's not ideal but it's better than no judging at all (in my opinion, anyway!).

I personally think that a lot of people do speed modelling for the feedback. True, you get a lot of 'Great model', 'Nice render' etc, but I think a lot of people would like to see how their work is really rated by their peers.

I would like to see a visible voting system.

i.e at the end of the competition, you have a week of voting which is done in the form of posts.

In your post, you would put your first, second and third choices. A 'First' gets three points, a 'Second' gets two etc. Because you name three pieces of work, the feedback gets spread around a bit more.

After the week's up, the points are totalled. Hey presto, you have a winner, runner up, honourable mention, and a full leaderboard!

Ok, some people might not get any votes and might not get on the leaderboard (me, probably!) but what an incentive to improve, to get your name up there on the board!

The other advantages are that it keeps the thread alive for a further week and adds a bit of interest.

Hope nobody minds me sounding people out on this - like I say, it's just an idea.

[Brodix]

not A bad Idead, but it would never fly...Because you have people like me. I have dial up, and a VERY slow one at that. Thats the reason that I dont throw out alot of praise. Because it tales me soooo long to Download a single pic, let alone 200 pics.

[fastrak]

HELLO EVERYONE!
I feel I must speak on this before it gets out of hand (which may not be the proper way of putting it, sorry). First, let me say thankyou to all the people here wishing to help on this issue. Since problem solving is the cornerstone of any good designer, those that have offered suggestions, it is much appreciated.
Now, lets all come back to earth and face the reality of the situation for just a moment (not to say that you aren't, but anyway.....) The judging of this competition. previous and future competitions will be finalized by one person only, Andy-3dt. Catching up is extremely difficult, especially considering the incredible entries you all have been submitting. But please believe me, the judging IS progressing, as we speak. So before we start thinking mutiny or anything, please, PLEASE be patient a little while longer.
Thank you all for your gracious support,consideration and understanding.
(Now Get Rendering :))

[Marty_McFly-3DT]

My thoughts:
There's not too much to say about these two weeks. It was a pretty straight forward week as far as entries go. In the end when it came down to winning entries, I went to my Runner Ups and tried to look for what screamed Star Wars at me from first look. Something that you would have no doubt where it came from at first glance. So there's my 13 cents as Fastrak would say. :)


Honorable Mentions

antto (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showpost.php?p=343315&postcount=15)

adamos (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showpost.php?p=343618&postcount=69)

Marty_McFly (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showpost.php?p=343841&postcount=118)

pixel pimp (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showpost.php?p=343994&postcount=141)

fastrak (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showpost.php?p=344307&postcount=204)

onemore (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showpost.php?p=344424&postcount=223)

mort (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showpost.php?p=344667&postcount=275)

TheOnlyAaron (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showpost.php?p=344689&postcount=280)

fastrak (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showpost.php?p=344964&postcount=325)

e283 (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showpost.php?p=345190&postcount=347)

adamos (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showpost.php?p=345312&postcount=363)

Ilkejav mk5 (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showpost.php?p=345368&postcount=370)

SithLord_Steve (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showpost.php?p=345801&postcount=404)

Nojoy (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showpost.php?p=346266&postcount=469)

Marty_McFly (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showpost.php?p=346585&postcount=500)

rjam (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showpost.php?p=346987&postcount=533)

PKT (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showpost.php?p=346988&postcount=534)

Hermes (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showpost.php?p=347707&postcount=591)

rashika (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showpost.php?p=348351&postcount=645)

deathstar (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showpost.php?p=348458&postcount=653)



Runner Ups

UrsiNMC (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showpost.php?p=343963&postcount=136)

Trimyr (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showpost.php?p=344659&postcount=274)

Nojoy (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showpost.php?p=344999&postcount=329)

Ilkejav mk5 (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showpost.php?p=345768&postcount=397)

Smack Monkey (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showpost.php?p=345852&postcount=410)

JAPO (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showpost.php?p=346138&postcount=449)

fastrak (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showpost.php?p=347336&postcount=561)



Winners

JAPO (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showpost.php?p=344755&postcount=299)

adamos (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showpost.php?p=344491&postcount=233)


The winners can get in contact with ben@3dtotal.com and supply their contact details which CD they would like and which weeks challenge they were winners of we'll get your prizes out as quickly as possible.

[fastrak]

Let me be the first to say Congratulations to Japo (winner and runners up) and Adamos (winner and 2 honorable mentions) Absolutely stunning stuff. And congrats goes out to all of the others in the honorable mention and runners up categories.
Way to go boys and girls.
And a big THANKYOU to Marty_3DT and Andy_3DT for see the judging thru. Great Job!

[RideStowe]

rawr another week i dont get a mention :P

[Smack Monkey]

Nice work guys, Adamos you owened this comp, I'm just glad you didn't win twice and Japo that was a sweet model, a verry good likeness. Congrats to all involved.

[hammering3D]

Congratulation to all that got listed, and all others, impresive works,

[PKT]

omg, Honorable Mentions again?!
This is really awsome guys...
And I really liked this challenge, everyone made an excelent entry, really cool.
Grats to the splendid winners!

[subcrocodile]

congratulations to all winners,runners up and mentioned and to all also.

[adamos]

At last. Every thing its how i have procide. My nolage of force have now some use in real live.

[SithLord_Steve]

Wow! I got an honourable mention...thanks guys! :wave: Congratulations to all the other honourable mentions, runners up and winners! This challenge was really fun and well worth the wait for a winner!

In the meantime I finished off my model from this challenge if anyone wants to take a peek at the link below.

http://ca.geocities.com/wishartgraphics@rogers.com/images/grievousA6.jpg

[Marty_McFly-3DT]

Awe... no cape? :( Nice model Steve. :D

[SithLord_Steve]

sorry forgot to include this link with the cape....Here ya go Marty! :o

GENERAL GRIEVOUS WITH CAPE! (http://ca.geocities.com/wishartgraphics@rogers.com/images/grievousA1.jpg)

[Marty_McFly-3DT]

http:///
What kind of cruel joke is that?!? Hehehe... I got it working though. Yay!

[Nick Visser]

Guys... There is something wrong with you...

An big Star Wars robot is missing...

3PO.... Where the hell is 3PO?

[RideStowe]

he is what would be called, "too big to model in 1 hour"

[Ilkejav mk5]

WOW! well that was slightly unexpected... honourable mention AND runner up... ish, now I'm sorry I ever lost faith in the Mods in the forst place... Congrats both winners, excellent entries... and for the rest, i'm impressed such talent and inspiration were focused on one single subject...