Reputation points?

[claWda]

hello, I'm a bit slow so I just caught up on this reputation thing, seems I got two negative comments for stuff I really do not understand, but being the way I am, I probably deserve it

anyway, my question is - how does it work? I've noticed all the 3DT people got max rep points, but Warin-3DT is "doing OK", what's with that?

and can anyone just file a "complaint" against you? seen a lot of people help others and they still only have one green block, some explanation would be nice and I apologize if this has been discussed before

[Julhelm]

I have 2 reputation points. Guess that's what you get for giving people technical advice.

Where did you check the comments, though?

[achilleale]

try to help people helping yourselves!

enjoy! :dance:

[MaggieQue]

Hi I'm sorry if you've already provided a lot of help but no one give u reputation point. Maybe u could pm the thread to the moderator and ask for reputation point.


But I deeply believe that, when u are helping the other members, what u have "gained" is not reputation point, but something more valuable is during the helping process, we are actually learning.

Other members could "take away" ur reputation point, but they can't take away ur 3d knowledge. And when u are sharing the 3d knowledge, actually u are revising, learning more deep and detail information.


I think this is the reason that I get the highest reputation point at the forum. If u take away my points, I'm nobody.

[mr_demon]

er, then what the whole point of these reputation points, what do we get for them?

[DeadlyFreeze]

er, then what the whole point of these reputation points, what do we get for them?

I dont know, I havent seen anyone with another little green bar yet(besides the mods that is but we know they cheated ;P). It's anyone guess when you actually 'level up'.

[Brent]

I think you need something like 100 points for your green bar to change.
And since a member can only give 1 point......
I`ve recieved points on my artwork alone which I dont think is right.
My art is no better than anyone elses.
It should be on your activity as a helpful member alone....

[DeadlyFreeze]

1 point? I've always got 2 points from people. Anyway I noticed that when you hold your mouse over rep icon it has a differnt saying.

Like mine is 'is doing OK' and Lorenzo's is 'is obviously worth listening to'.

...and whats the grey rep for? I've gotten one before, but I dont know if it gave me more, less or any rep points.

[Brent]

I think you are right it may indeed be 2 points.
I also have a greyed out reputation.
I believe that is someone who gave a point be then removed it?...I dunno.
I have an odd number[as in not even] of rep points.
I would think the number should always be an even number?

[DeadlyFreeze]

hmmm I dont know, mine is 20. That's why I figured it went by 2. It might change at a certain point. Like when you reach a certain amount it stops giving 2 and starts give 1.

[claWda]

looks like I wasn't the only one confused ;)

edit: aww that's cute, someone gave me rep points, can't see who though, julhelm perhaps?

[Julhelm]

Negative. And I'm still "An unknown entity at this point".

[USED]

the way it works is like this:
Someone with a lot of rep points (like my self and other mods) gives / or / takes more rep points then a member with a small amount. I dont know what the exact #'s are.. hope this helps

[mr_demon]

dont know, but i only got 9 points even though i posted free textures an materials for everyone else to use on one of my threads an gave advice.....but on the other hand i received alot of advice and a couple of free textures as well

[claWda]

to everyone who's giving me rep points, I DID NOT START THIS THREAD FOR YOU ALL TO FEEL SORRY FOR ME :D

I must say though, I'm laughing my ass off when hovering over that green thing saying "claWda is obviously worth listening to", makes me all warm inside ;)

[CarNut]

I have 10 points and hadn't known a thing about it.

Fascinating......
Not that it'll change how I do things......

[Knut]

Where can you see how many points you got?
I've looked everywhere! Except the obvious place of corpse.

[mr_demon]

ur user cp, it says it right in the middle with comments that people left after giving/taking away ur points. the only one i got is someone shunting me for making the 'r u selling somit?' joke in that religion cr4p thread. to whoever gave me that comment, i think i have the right to voice my opinion as well! church to me is another form of totalitarian regime, somit i know quite a bit about, what with me being born and raised in one an all.

[claWda]

yeah that religion-thread got me some negative points too, touchy subject to some

[Julhelm]

Wow, someone took out a crapload of my points because I said the f words a few times in a post. Way to be touchy.

[martimus]

Maybe you get 10 points automatically? because it says ive got 10 points but i cant find anywhere on the user cp to find them or comments?

this all so weird.

what does it count for anyway? i mean are you not going to take someone elses advice because they dont have much reputation?

only bad things can happen from us being able to do something so judgemental to our fellow posters

[mr_demon]

yeah, u initially get 10 an then when somebody takes or give u points the leave a comment

[Phynius Gauge]

It's a respect system. Seems lucid to me.

It doesn't seem to be working that well though...there's only two members with more than one green bar (other than the mods). Damnit I wanna level up. :D

[claWda]

it makes sense, I think everyone appreciates an input on a work in progress regardless of a member's rep points, however, you might want to pay more attention to the advice from a respected member...maybe, don't know :)

btw who gave me rep points with a comment "I love swedes"? :D love you too

[Brent]

lol...this thread is funny....I`m sure your a great guy Clawda....
but your last comment sorta sums up this whole thread now dosen`t it:)

[claWda]

true

[qwed88]

This is a very funny thread, I don't really think these rep points get used though

[Novak]

I don't think this reputation points are important.. Just be nice to other members,
and try to help them if you can. for the rest it not so important. But this is my opinion.

Greetz, Novak

[Track_Maniac]

If we want to "Level-Up" (that sounds so wicked in a forum) we should all give each other good reputation comments and points in this forum. So.... everyone GO! GIVE ME POINTS! lol.

[CarNut]

How many do you want?

[Track_Maniac]

I was just kidding lol. I don't think that the reputation points actually hold alot of value. If you talk with people in the forums you begin to understand who knows their stuff anyways. So I think the best way to be able to trust someone is just to talk with them and see their work. Everyone's work speaks for itself, that should be a good enough gauge as to their skill level anyways. :)

[claWda]

you really should let this thread die ;)

got another question while it's still here, I got a GREY little square from someone, I know what red and green means but what's with the grey one?

[R.Kamal]

I dont know, I havent seen anyone with another little green bar yet(besides the mods that is but we know they cheated ;P). It's anyone guess when you actually 'level up'.

i couldnt control my laugh while reading what Deadly Freez said.cool :evil:

[R.Kamal]

got another question while it's still here, I got a GREY little square from someone, I know what red and green means but what's with the grey one?


someone plz clarify...even i got a grey square one.whats that mean?does anyonbody have any idea?

[Brent]

it means the person who gave you those points dosen`t have any points themselves.So although they gave you a good reputation ...your count dosen`t rise...think of it as ...cake without the frosting....:):)

[Freespace-3DT]

you mean they can't give you points but they tried? or what? cause I've got some grays too; and why can't they give you points?

and there are people with more squares, I know Inspired has three squares. :)
that means he's a Level 3 Forum Member, Chaotic Good. :)

[dumpo]

I dont know about rep points. but i dont have any. ???

[AutoMod]

<::/ claWda :PRINT\::>
Thank you for this post. I would have to say that much attention to your good model has been noted. You model is extremely high poly thus the subdivision management will prove to be difficult. <*syntax error: E-42844*>
Feelings sometimes can be swayed by strong colors, a nice green bar, as posted by <^look up poster #36,12/06/05, 06:57 AM GTM^Freespace :PRINT::> "he's a Level 3 Forum Member, Chaotic Good." I do believe that says it better than I.

Please do come back again,
AutoMod-3DT

[claWda]

?????

[novoAlias]

HAHAHA looks like monte cristo still has some fine tuning to do on his creation XD

Reputation can work well, if everyone knows how to use them and what they are for.
Like rating threads it works best if its a habit, like "Thanks, have some rep" for useful info etc.

Just start using it yourself and hopefully others will too, it should work better in this forum after that.

[Brent]

ok...from what I was told here is how it breaks down.
In order for a member to give points that result in a green square they must have firstly recieved points from someone else.If they haven`t recieved points from another member then their efforts to give you extra points resultsin a grey square and no points added to "your" total.
What this does is prevent members from flooding the forum with bogus new accounts only to boost their own rep point total.
As to how many points you need before you gain an extra square....I don`t know...I assume it`s 100 or 150.....but I dunno for sure.

[Josiah]

I assume it`s 100 or 150.....but I dunno for sure.
How many do you have?

I have 27...

Josiah

[Brent]

I have 57 points...and 4 grey squares

[Josiah]

I have 57 points...and 4 grey squares
Make that 58 ;P

[qwed88]

Oh, my god it's back

[Freespace-3DT]

I've got 50 points....

[inspired]

ive got 243 so far :roll:

it costed me alot of money to bribe Andy and black -3dt tho, but its worth it... now my spamming is much more accepted and tolerated :evil:

[Ilkejav mk5]

I only got lik 18... and mostly spend my time loowking for post that I can give crits or help... I think it' just that most people don,t know how to give rep points...

anyway i'm not gonna cry like a baby if I don't get points...

[inspired]

just gone up to 257... pff sucking up to those mods REALLY helps... i really acourage you guys to bribe those Mods, and suck up to them, and overflow threedy with reputation points... think of all those twinkling eyes of those newbies, who think we are all mister nice guys... even blackwolf, and USED-3DT, while every1 here knows how :evil: they are... :roll:

well anyway, im off... I have to get back to my spamming, and get the #1 position of the postcount-rankings :evil:

:wave:

[Mr. Bluesummers-3DT]

Quick Reply
I agree with Ilkejav. It felt a little strange when they were first implimented, and I don't think everyone quite knows how they're used. While I didn't do much sucking up, I did end up with about 80 points before I was metamorphosized. It's a neat system, and kind of lets you know who's been naughty and who's been nice.

If I had to critique it at all, it's that it'd be nice if people used it more often.

Cheers,

[Freespace-3DT]

it'd be nice if people used it more often.
Yeap, I want to level up to get another green-square. :) So I'll try and help people out, I don't like to suck up. Sorry...

[novoAlias]

just gone up to 257... pff sucking up to those mods REALLY helps... i really acourage you guys to bribe those Mods, and suck up to them, and overflow threedy with reputation points... think of all those twinkling eyes of those newbies, who think we are all mister nice guys... even blackwolf, and USED-3DT, while every1 here knows how :evil: they are... :roll:

well anyway, im off... I have to get back to my spamming, and get the #1 position of the postcount-rankings :evil:

:wave:

Who? Me? Evil? :shy:

You shall never beat JDGill even if you beat me, he's spamming more than any other member :haha: He beat me a week ago.

[Josiah]

Yeah, Josh is a horse of a different color :evil:

[R.Kamal]

i think most of the users are not aware of this Reputations thing....bcoz i havebeen so kind and helpful all this while:evil: yes ...truely... ;P but doesnt have any reputation sofar...so that goes to show that either the moderators are cheating :roll: ,(with all those flasing green squares)or the users don't rep at all .after all the hard work only i got some grey squares.....

[Freespace-3DT]

i think most of the users are not aware of this Reputations thing....bcoz i havebeen so kind and helpful all this while:evil: yes ...truely... ;P but doesnt have any reputation sofar...so that goes to show that either the moderators are cheating :roll: ,(with all those flasing green squares)or the users don't rep at all .after all the hard work only i got some grey squares.....

In order for someone to give rep points to anyone else, they must also have rep points of their own. So the gray squares you've been receiving are positive points, but from users without enough reputation to give you some.

And mods get those squares just cause they're the ones running the show. :) I'm not saying they don't deserve it... :D

[Josiah]

Yeah, it is kinda a skrewed up system when Freespace isn't a moderator yet :)

[R.Kamal]

Yeah, it is kinda a skrewed up system when Freespace isn't a moderator yet :)

how i wish any of us as a moderator...so that we all can get those flashing green squares....btw i am a member in another local indian forum,those guys are pretty genuine...i havent even crossed my 100 post there...down my name with full of green squares flashing around...lovely ....atleast the moderators should let us to keep us images as signatures.c ya all....

[MonteCristo]

Yeah, it is kinda a skrewed up system when Freespace isn't a moderator yet :)
His time will come... ;)

I'm not sure that the reputations thing is working at all. I think it's kinda dumb. Or at least, it's way too slow. I'll look into it.

[Ilkejav mk5]

the problem is, when I help people, I either help 2 categories of people, the "noobs" who are new to this forum, and need someone to greet them in this lovely place, and, thus, don't know about the rep points, or I help the masters by giving them useful crits for their art... and often they don't think about giving points to lesser artists in the likes of me. there are exceptions of course... and that sums up to the 18 points I got.

I think there are a few other people in this situatuion as well... there must be.

[EDIT] make it 19, some generous soul gave me a rep point for not crying like a baby... this thread IS weird...

[claWda]

I agree it's slow, who is better known than the notorious claWda here in threedy and I got ONE green square? :halo:

noo but to be honest, the system isn't really working, while I'm too busy doing other things at the moment, some of the other users really deserve higher rep

anyway, VERY OFFTOPIC (hey it's my thread), here's my latest 3D project, however it is NOT 3ds max but ALIAS STUDIOTOOLS

did a car project in school and it's safe to say I kicked ass and produced a finer rendering than my teacher which obviously irritated him (he called me unambitious and lazy)

here it is, remember this is a difficult program to render and model in and my teacher isn't really all that good, take care! :lurve:

[Josiah]

claWda: You like Burlap to cashmier??? You have their song in your signature. I love that band......

And guys, I think that the whole thing is messed up. I mean, what Ilkjav mk5 said is very true. We are either helping out the noobs or helping gods. And neither will give you reps. The good artists think that what you have to say is not that important, and the lousy artists just don't even know about the whole rep thing.

That is why I have that thing in my signature. I hope that if I give some good advice, people will take it to heart and give some good reps.....


Josiah-

[MonteCristo]

Well, I've looked at it. What I wanted to do was change the rate that the green dots appear, so that people might actually see some point to using reputation. Problem is, it's not an otion without hacking code. Pretty dumb if you ask me. Ive added more levels so that the comments vary a bit more. We'll keep looking into this thing, or we'll scrap it.

[Josiah]

ok. that is a good idea. I think that you should get a new green square every 50. That way, more people have them, and more people will see what they are. Because as it is right now, only the moderators have more than 1 green square....And that kinda defeats the purpose.....

[novoAlias]

@Monte, i know another forum where the squares are so small its more like a progress bar than anything else, i think there might be a different plugin for VBB for that.

My suggestion is to make the icon more readable, the reason most people dont look at it is it is near the bottom and between two icons no one ever uses (well I dont), it is also a minature picture of some scales which is hard to make out. If you made it for instance a slightly larger glowing plus symbol (maybe in an easy place like next to the name), people might find it less wierd to click on, also having a plus and a minus symbol so you dont need to check whick your doing might help.

I realise most of that may need code hacking (except the icon thing, go do that now!) but i also know that the vbb support site will have more than enough plugins and add ons to help you out if theyre anything like the phpbb.

Better yet let me mess around with it :evil: i've always wanted a different colour scheme.. something darker and cool ;P

[Josiah]

A scale?? I always thought it was some explosion. It is soooooo small that even I didn't know what it was untill a few months ago........

I think that it is time for some good adjustments.

I think that Blackwolfs idea of a progress bar is a great idea.......

Make them smaller and have a new one added every 10 or 15 comments.

[Josiah]

why does it say that this thread got moved?!?!?!?!?

[claWda]

Josiah: Actually, "Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth" is an album from KillahPriest, don't know why I still have it in my sig. since I'm not even into his music, just never got around to delete it :) I'll change it soon

[Freespace-3DT]

Don't scrap the reputation system, it's so cool. It's why I'm actually helping people in the first place! :evil: I know, I'm sooo evil :D

Edit: Oh, by the way, MonteCristo! I've got "Freespace can control polygons with their mind." This sounds very cool, but shouldn't it be: "with his mind." ? Now, this also raises a question: What if someone of female gender also reaches my rep level, they should have "with her mind."

[Ilkejav mk5]

What if someone of female gender also reaches my rep level, they should have "with her mind."

lol, an existential question... does a forum personae have a gender?

plus I agree the progress bar and a bigger icon would be aweosme... maybe instead of the scale, have a happy face :) , or for the bad post report, a sad face :( . that would make it so much easier for the noobs to understand. maybe even add a text that explains what the buttons do...

[Josiah]

Agreed :)

Josiah

[Novak]

Well, I don't understand how this reputation points work.
I have at the moment 13 I think, It's does not matter for me...... Give me some more :D :D

[novoAlias]

AW since it got moved here the admins have stopped replying :( feedback please!

[Josiah]

Yeah! come on :(

[Freespace-3DT]

I'm sure they've got their eyes on this. Just give 'em time. :) Mods are busy people.

[Josiah]

Ok :)

[MonteCristo]

Don't scrap the reputation system, it's so cool. It's why I'm actually helping people in the first place! :evil: I know, I'm sooo evil :D

Edit: Oh, by the way, MonteCristo! I've got "Freespace can control polygons with their mind." This sounds very cool, but shouldn't it be: "with his mind." ? Now, this also raises a question: What if someone of female gender also reaches my rep level, they should have "with her mind."

Yes Freespace, I put "their", because it's somewhat beyond my scope to create a gender aware reputation system. Even AutoMod isn't aware of gender. ;)

Anyway guys, I hope you can bear with tis until the new year, but it looks like we are going to be having a fairly major overhaul of these forums to get them all nice and cosy for you :) Rep points will of course come under scrutiny.

By the way, this thread got moved because technically it was in the wrong forum. Again, we will be sorting that little problem out too.

[novoAlias]

Ooh Exciting :D

BTW Hi! from South island NZ today :) Not that anyone cares...

[Freespace-3DT]

Cool, BlackWolf. The land down-under, eh? :) I'd like to visit NZ someday.

[Freespace-3DT]

I'm curious, how much rep points does a moderator have? 140 by any chance??

[Ilkejav mk5]

ugh since when has this thread been moved?

and where's that overhaul? can,t see a darn difference right now... :grr:

[MonteCristo]

And that makes you angry, Ilkejav? :grr:
In order to overhaul, we must first have someone who can be paid to do so. They need to be moderator material and must also be experienced in VBulletin. I would do it myself, but I'm extremely busy, and don't hav an awfully large scope with VB and so we are waiting on Tom, to organise someone.

[invert]

If had great knowledge with VB I would def join the mod team and help with this situation. Would be cool to be a mod, but guess I wouldnt meet the requirements..lol

[novoAlias]

id start a skin, why not do a collab skin(s), it wouldnt be hard to assemble one with the talent we have lying around here :p why not have a skin that reflects the skill for a change :)

Skins are just a collection of images anyway, you could download and modify them (with parameters of course), or just get a few more colour schemes.

[Josiah]

Still waiting....(patiantly I will add)

:)

Josiah

[MonteCristo]

Well, I wouldn't wait with your breath held Josiah. It happens when it happens. With all the projects going on at our end, we have a lot more pressing things to get out of the way first.

But rest assured, we will be overhauling these forums sometime in the near future.

Invert - I wouldn't count yourself out just yet.

[invert]

Well, thats pretty cool to hear Monte, if you guys ever consider me, I will be ready and willing to be one.

[Josiah]

Well, I wouldn't wait with your breath held Josiah. It happens when it happens. With all the projects going on at our end, we have a lot more pressing things to get out of the way first.

But rest assured, we will be overhauling these forums sometime in the near future.



Ok. That is fine. :) I just wanted to let you know I was still interested in a change. No rush.

have agood one

Josiah

[Ilkejav mk5]

btw monty, I wasnt really serious about being angry... I'm never serious... I said it more like a joke, but I guess it's hard to understand one's expression with written word only... no problem... I'm a patient person...

As long as that overhaul is good, I'm happy, no matter how long it takes. :wave:

[novoAlias]

Speaking of subterranian creatures with horns, anyone seen msn's overhaul?
I think it looks quite snazz, even if 99% of msn users happen to be people with the mental age of an 11 year old = 'sux2bu' type personality.