LOW POLY CHALLENGE #1 - Megaman Villain Challenge [Archive]

Cyrenn

08-09-2005, 02:56 PM

Welcome 3DTotal Community. Me and Nappa decided to start a friendly competition in hopes that we end up getting a lot of participants. I think this could be a great thread and a lot of fun and if all goes planned we should have a bunch of cool looking new Villains that will be on the look out for our old friend Mega Man.

Here's a Link to the Offical Mega Man site.
http://www.capcom.com/megaman/

Well if you decided to join this little competition, I’m sure in the process we can learn a lot from each other, by sharing tips on ways to model and texture, let alone rig a character.

Please post all works in progress on this thread: )

Well here are the rulz.
1. You have to model a Mega Man Style Villain.
It has to be a new Bot, no rip offs of any of the original villains.

2. Your Bot has to have his own original name with MAN at the end.
For example: Snot Man, Cool Man, Suck man etc.

If you decided to make a female style Villain Bot, just add women and the end - Example: Hot woman, Nylon Woman, Thong Woman Etc. LOL

3. Your Bot can only have one power, and explain his power.
Example – Fire Man shoots fire, Ice Man shoots Ice.

4. Before you start to model you must post your concept art. Colored is optional,
Name of the Bot is required.

5. All Models have to be within 5,000 tri's or 2500 Polys: )

6. 1 – 1024 X 1024 or smaller texture map.

7. Final render of your new Mega Man Villain , needs to be Modeled,
Textured & rigged in attack pose, any additional stuff like effects
And animation is optional. Any software package can be used.

8. All bots must be completed by October 31, 2005
Pacific Standard Time: )

9. List of villains you can’t use.
1.Air Man
Aqua Man
Astro Man

2.Blizzard Man
Bomb Man
Bright Man
Bubble Man
Burner Man
Burst Man

3.Centaur Man
Charge Man
Cloud Man
Cold Man
Crash Man
Crystal Man
Cut Man

4.Dive Man
Drill Man
Dust Man
Dynamo Man

5.Electric Man

6.Fire Man
Flame Man
Flash Man
Freeze Man
Frost Man

7.Gemini Man
Guts Man
Gravity Man
Grenade Man
Ground Man
Gyro Man

8.Hard Man
Heat Man

9.Ice Man

10.Junk Man

11.Knight Man

12.Magic Man
Magnet Man
Metal Man

13.Napalm Man
Needle Man

14.Pharaoh Man
Pirate Man
Plant Man

15.Quick Man

16.Ring Man

17.Search Man
Shade Man
Shadow Man
Slash Man
Skull Man
Snake Man
Spark Man
Spring Man
Star Man
Stone Man
Sword Man

18.Tengu Man
Toad Man
Tomahawk Man
Top Man
Turbo Man

19.Wave Man
Wind Man
Wood Man

20.Yamato Man
These are the Villains from Mega Man to Mega Man 8, so if you know of more feel free to list them down.

Well I think that’s it for now.
Winner basically gets to be known as the Coolest Mega Man Villain Bot Builder LOL! Well actually hopefully this thread will take off and maybe we can come up with some sort of an award for the top 3 bots: )

If you have any other suggestions that can help this thread, feel free to post it.

Good Luck and lets all have fun.

Khan's

08-09-2005, 07:14 PM

hahaha, i did gett an idea of arranging a friendly contest over here.
cool idea but i am working on my little guy model so maybe if iget the time i will try to participate but if it would be me, i would keep low polycount and low texture map and a definite one , even if i would keep highpoly res i would make a definite.

thanks

Thujalvi

08-09-2005, 08:07 PM

Speedo man! Feel free to use the idea.

~X~

08-09-2005, 08:09 PM

Cyrenn

09-09-2005, 12:35 AM

Count Me In!

I will have the @#$%tiest bot EVER!

but it should be fun.

Edit: I realized after looking at the villans of the new mega man off the site, they are just rip-offs of the first mega man game, by either power or appearence lol

Edit again: I think someone should make a woMAN lol
~X~
:halo:

Hey X thats a great Idea, If people want to make a woman Style villain, feel free to do so. Just the same rules apply: ) Ive editied the rules that state Woman Villians are optional.

Hope to start seeing some concepts soon. Good Luck all : )

Mitch

09-09-2005, 12:44 AM

I'm in :)

Cyrenn

09-09-2005, 02:28 AM

Glad others find this interesting.

Ok I guess I'll start it off, I went ahead and drew up my concept of my Mega Man Villain bot. I hope it gets things started.

His name is Meth Man, and he's up to NO Good!
He seriously causes alot of damage to our society and he needs to be stopped: )

For realz though : )

Crits are welcome: )

hand

09-09-2005, 04:51 AM

really cool guy! I think you should try tweeking his eyes out a bit more.

~X~

09-09-2005, 05:16 AM

Quick question,

Do I have to fallow the same "Bulky" body form (say like the rist that makes up the arm cannon) or can i streamline it?

~X~
:halo:

Cyrenn

09-09-2005, 05:42 AM

Quick question,

Do I have to fallow the same "Bulky" body form (say like the rist that makes up the arm cannon) or can i streamline it?

~X~
:halo:

Thx Hand for the comment, Yea the eyes do look funny, I'm trying to get his eyes to look liek they are all cracked out LOL!

X - I suppose you can create it any way you want, as long as it could pass for a Mega Man style Character. If you google search you can find all sorts of styles that were created. I hope this helps.: )

Rashika-3DT

09-09-2005, 06:39 AM

or maybe im an idiot.
i'll join!

Cyrenn

09-09-2005, 06:51 AM

no time limit? maybe you should set a date at least.

All entrees must be completed by October 31st 12 Midnight Pacific standard time : )

BEELOW

09-09-2005, 11:24 AM

That interesting, good Idea, I wont be able to do it though, I am doing both 2d and 3d spectacular challenge at Cgtalk! You should join ryan since you bout to graduate!(bryce)

CaseyD2K

10-09-2005, 08:45 AM

I'm gonna jump on this bro!! We got til October that's plenty of time!!! I just gotta think of a bot

Cyrenn

10-09-2005, 09:35 AM

I'm gonna jump on this bro!! We got til October that's plenty of time!!! I just gotta think of a bot

Right on Rashika & CaseyD2K glad to see you jump on this.: )
By the way Your avatar rocks : )

Beelow - thats cool. Ill be checking up on your work for the contest: ) Good Luck on that fo sho: )

qwed88

10-09-2005, 11:37 AM

boy,.......that kinda limits it ?!,,,,....anyway hahahhahahhah lololol meth man!!! thats good

~X~

11-09-2005, 01:19 AM

I got my concept ready but my scanner is down and im in the midddle of moving :hurt:

your gonna have to wait!!!

l8rz,

~X~
:halo:

Ps the concept of my bot might be better but im sure your gonna pwn me via modeling!

Cyrenn

11-09-2005, 03:04 AM

BEELOW

11-09-2005, 06:54 AM

wassup casey! That's cool thanx for you suppport, yeah stop by and go ahead and crit me if you feel if you must do so, holla!

~X~

11-09-2005, 10:30 AM

X - Looking forward to seeing your Villain, You moving out of town or to a new place : )
Hio,

Its actually more of a "WhereTF am i gona go now?" sort of problem lol.

Usually when I am exspected to produce for a thread and come sort, I usually post a joke pic that has to do something with the topic. I would do that here but the joke would problibly afend some people. even though I have the ability of not being known in real life, i still dont want to be a dick.

Anyway,I was in the middle of fixing my scanner when the question poped into my mind, which is, "Can My villian be part organic?" thing is, I already finished all the refs i need to use, and i dont want to start if i cant.

L8rz,

~X~
:halo:

edit: PS Can you say no to that face?
<-----------------------

evil-98

11-09-2005, 01:12 PM

wow this is cool. id like to try but i dont know how to rig, or uv map that well...

ill be watching this tho!

edit: great concept by the way

Cyrenn

11-09-2005, 03:54 PM

X -Yea Part organic is cool. I figure Mega Man is part organic: ) So yea , why not have your Villian bot part organic.

Evil 98 - By all means, jump right in. If you dont know how to UV map or rig yet, Im sure people will help guide you in the process. Feel free to ask me and I'll do my best to help you finish your Bot.

I figure the whole purpose of this contest was to really get people involved to help trade secrets and so forth: )

Besides it will be alot of fun: )

evil-98

11-09-2005, 08:34 PM

^^ alright thanks

this sounds fun

~X~

11-09-2005, 10:58 PM

Hio,

Well I got my scanner operational(vary noobish stupid solution, dont ask).

Anywho i only spend 15 minutes making the introductional referance. its shabby, but hey, I didnt have that much time :lame:

So here he is:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/Dogfood/OmegaMan.jpg

Name: OmegaMan
Height: 6'2
Eye color: Green
Metalic Base: Tralium
Elimental Attack: Dark Matter

Back Story:

"In futile attempts to find a worthy opponent in the vast outskirts of the galaxy, he decided to take on the infamous Mega Man. After years of searching, he had found his rival. A battle of epic proportions ensued and left planet to rubble.

In the debris of it all, Omega was left a torn shell of a creature,
dying under the planet's three suns. A tear rolls down his face
and his eyes began to fade. Then, in that moment, as his eyes
began to close, a shadowed figure emerged.

He woke, to only find himself where he thought he should have perished.
Things were different for Omega; his fragile skin had been fused with
a robotic body. A scrambled message was placed in his ship, with orders
to eliminate Mega Man and the whereabouts of his rival. While on route,
he randomly gets flashes of what happened when he blacked out,
But the only thing on Omega's mind is......

REVENGE!"

Well this should get intresting, the next few days are going to be frantic but i will try to get some modeling done.

LET THE COMP COMENSE!!
:crazy:

L8rz,
~X~
:halo:

Ps I am gonna take out that loose hair, maybe even the hair in general, just thought it would look cool :)

~X~

12-09-2005, 02:10 AM

Looks like I am a bad omen, everytime i post a pic in a thread the thread stops getting posts lol.

Also, Cyrenn, i was wondering if you had AIM or MSN?

L8rz,

~X~
:halo:

Cyrenn

12-09-2005, 02:18 AM

Very cool concept X- I love his whole background story very deep : )

Looking forward to seeing his 3d version develope: )

By the way anyone ever seen Omega Man starring Charlton Heston?

X also check your mail I sen tyou my MSN

BEELOW

12-09-2005, 04:33 AM

I am diggin' the concept x good luck with your model! :cool:

evil-98

12-09-2005, 04:34 AM

started a couple sketchs

what i got in mind

Laser Man
Bat Man
DJ Man

ill post them up when they look decent enough lol :)

~x~: nice sketch

Cyrenn

12-09-2005, 04:39 AM

started a couple sketchs

what i got in mind

Laser Man
Bat Man
DJ Man

ill post them up when they look decent enough lol :)

~x~: nice sketch

LOL! I like them all, DJ man would be sweet, I actually thought of that one, but I already had a dj type character. Didnt want people to think I had DJs on the brain

Athey

12-09-2005, 04:41 AM

~X~ talked me into joining up. I'm hella busy at work with this huge milestone we just had, so I can't garuntee that I'll actually have time to work on this, but I'll give it a decent attempt ^_^;;

progress so far:
Only spent about 15-20min on this. I've got ideas for the head/helmet but I haven't drawn it out yet. Still need to draw a side view too, but whatever. Hopefully I'll have time to work on it some more later today.
Name is still in limbo - I've got two ideas, but both kinda suck, so I'm debating some alternatives.
http://www.cat-print.com/storage/mmvillian_wipdesign.jpg

~X~

12-09-2005, 04:44 AM

gl athey,

Omega will leave him in darkness.

:crazy:

~X~
:halo:

Cyrenn

12-09-2005, 04:47 AM

Athey -Awsome, How exciting to have you join the contest. I've seen your work before, Amazing models: ) Even if you dont get the time to finish, just your presense on the thread is very inspiring: )

Keep up your great work.

evil-98

12-09-2005, 04:54 AM

well im a DJ on the side so thats what inspried me.

hes going to be a small character poluting the minds of
childern with his evil mind rotting music. :)

Athey

12-09-2005, 05:18 AM

ok... I had the head drawn up and was about to start the side view when my husband (who has played much more megaman than I have) peaked over my shoulder and said 'that looks like gemini man' and I'm all like - '...whosawhatits?' And he's all like 'from megaman 3, he's all icey and splits in two'

So I'm all like... lame... (especially since the idea for this guy was water attacks)

soooo... yeah. If anyone is gonna complain about his resemblance to an existing character, I'll try to rework it some more....

The idea for the character is that he'd carry a large trident... or maybe have one attached to his right arm, I'm not sure yet, and he'd shoot icy water (or something like that) from the trident, like icy water bullets... or something.

For the name, Tridentman was my original idea, but I'm trying to come up with some alternate names that would sound less lame... not sure. (I was also thinking Neptune Man)

soooo - the piccie:

http://www.cat-print.com/storage/mmvillian_wipdesign2.jpg

Cyrenn

12-09-2005, 05:20 AM

well im a DJ on the side so thats what inspried me.

hes going to be a small character poluting the minds of
childern with his evil mind rotting music. :)

Nice what type of beats do you spin: )
I used to run some after hour night clubs back in the day: ) Hired a few DJs in my time: )
I used to be a big house fan: ) I would have to say my all time favorite song is Stomp 2 my beat By: Js-16. Or Bom de Da by: Candy Girls

Athey - Very cool concept going. I like both names so far. Trident Man or Neptune man those both sound like winners. But I couldn't help laugh reading your last post when your husband looked over your shoulder LOL!

evil-98

12-09-2005, 06:16 AM

i got a dz1200 technic and a dn-s5000 denom with a denom mixer :)

i got a big day soon, djing at highlands in the kodak theater here in LA

evil-98

12-09-2005, 07:21 AM

heres an update. im working on heads before getting any further

http://evil98.insanity-asylum.com/megaman/head.jpg

Cyrenn

12-09-2005, 07:33 AM

Great Start evil, I love the hat kicked to the side, Gives him alot of personality: )

Nappa

12-09-2005, 10:46 AM

CaseyD2K

13-09-2005, 02:38 AM

Thanks I made it like 5 minutes right before I signed up to threedy so I could do this contest!!!

CaseyD2K

13-09-2005, 02:53 AM

Cyrenn

13-09-2005, 03:12 AM

Oh snap!!! Workin out some sketches right now but I just thought of the name for my bot(Drumroll Please):

WRECK MAN

If their already is a Wreck Man, Mega Fan's let me know and i'll think of something else. I'm working out the concepts hopefully i'll have a full color concept out by the end of the day!

Sup CaseyD2k - From what I know, I don't think theres a Wreck Man, But I do picture him with a big Chain & Ball hanging form one Handm that would be so TIGHT! WORD!

LOL!

Athey

13-09-2005, 06:52 AM

Well Cyrenn wanted me to just post all updates here (I didn't wanna clog this thread, but I guess I well)

I've actually already started the model, but it's not far enough along to post anything yet, so here's the completed concept.

http://www.cat-print.com/storage/mmvillian_design.jpg

Zcubed

13-09-2005, 06:52 AM

Woah, Cyrenn, this is really a terrific idea! I've always been a big fan of megaman, and the concepts that you guys have put up so far are certainly keeping with the art direction that Capcom has been using for the past decade or so. I already see lots of cool variation in the designs, and I can't wait to see them in 3D.

I've been too busy for much of anything lately, but I REALLY want to fit this one in. I can't make any promises, but hopefully I'll be able to throw a poorly made model your way over the weekend. :lame:

Evil - GI is probably not a great idea for giving WIP shots. Global Illumination makes it quite difficult to see any mistakes in the mesh, you'd get much more useful crits and comments if you just showed us the wireframe. That said, it looks to be progressing very nicely. :smug:

UPDATES! UPDATES! UPDATES! :dance:

evil-98

13-09-2005, 06:55 AM

Zcubed: ya that makes sence thanks. but its really just a mook up, i need to think before i model or ita get messy :)

Athey: the concept looks cool.

i need to finish my sketchs, i might do another one instead... ! :(

CaseyD2K

13-09-2005, 07:10 AM

Behold my most nefarious creation Wreck Man!!! I could've sworn their was a character like this in the Megaman universe but I looked all over the web and couldn't find one!!! I failed to deliver a colored project I din't have time tofinish this fool out (it's distracting me from my homework!!!). But f I get a chance i'll color him. Or i'll just work out the colors later when I construct him.

Check him out:

CaseyD2K

13-09-2005, 07:23 AM

AHA!! I figured out who I was thinking of...It was Knight Man from Mega Man 6 He had a mace on his arm and a shield!! Damn I thought I was original but apparently not...Oh well, maybe i'll just redraw him.

Cyrenn

13-09-2005, 08:07 AM

Well it basically started out like this: ) My little newphew asked me what were the cool games that I used to play when I was his age. I told him we had cool games like Metroid, Zelda, and I mentioned Mega Man, so then I took him to the video store and we saw the annaversary addition video game the one with all the mega man games on it.

My little nephew played the first Mega Man, So then we went to the Gmae Stop and I bought him the game, he's been hooked ever since. He loves Mega man now: ) I was watching him one day creating his own little Mega man bots and thought how fun I remember how I used to draw them when I was a kid.

So then I figured what the hell I think it would be fun to make a contest out of it,I wanted to see what other people could come up with.

Sorry I made you read this last post : ) But wanted to share it with everyone: )

Oh by the way Anthey: ) Thx for deciding to clog this forum with your works in progress : ) I'm sure well love every minute of it : )

OH SNAP!!!!! - Wreck man ROCKS! NICE JOB! I love it LOL BWHAHAHAHA

evil-98

13-09-2005, 09:09 AM

whoa nice caseyD2k !! get modeling!

count_carigon

13-09-2005, 09:33 AM

this is the series that started me drawing... It almost brings a tear to my eye. I remember sitting down at age 5 (when megaman 3 came out) with the manual and copying the pictures of the bots for fun and practice. (then i'd doodle during class, making up new bots :D)

I think my dad still has my picture of megaman with his charge shot in his office at work.

anyway, i have a concept, but am lacking a scanner here at college so i cant show you all. just know this, the name of my villian is:

CON MAN!!!

i cant wait to finish my model :D

Nappa

13-09-2005, 12:14 PM

Cyrenn

13-09-2005, 01:50 PM

:smug: What thats not how it happen lol is it i thought i had something to do with this whole comp :haha:

I apologize I mean the whole general idea of why it was brought to my attention was cause of my Little Nephew, But yes Me and nappa worked out all the details of the comp. So : ) Sorry it sounded that way Nappa.

But yes me and Nappa LOL! worked out the details of the comp: )

Hope that clears it up LOL!

Nappa

13-09-2005, 10:36 PM

I apologize I mean the whole general idea of why it was brought to my attention was cause of my Little Nephew, But yes Me and nappa worked out all the details of the comp. So : ) Sorry it sounded that way Nappa.

But yes me and Nappa LOL! worked out the details of the comp: )

Hope that clears it up LOL!

Its cool its just i didnt know any of that :dance:

BEELOW

14-09-2005, 12:53 AM

Casey, I am lovin' that concept, good hustle! :dance:

Athey

14-09-2005, 08:03 AM

Progress report:

http://www.moshimoshineko.com/storage/025_compile1.jpg

Cyrenn

14-09-2005, 08:19 AM

WOW! Looking fabulous Athey, looks just like your concept: )
Keep up the great work.

Well I'm having a bit of bad luck, My other PC went down the one with the scanner, so I couldn't get my front and side profile scanned.

evil-98

14-09-2005, 08:21 AM

whao rocken! looks great.

Cyrenn

14-09-2005, 01:42 PM

Ok I finally got my model sheet ready. : )

Ill be starting the model soon, Hopefully I will have something up later on tonight: )

BEELOW

14-09-2005, 03:49 PM

I feel like bustin one out now, *breaking into a sweat, trying to decide weather I want to do one*!

Zcubed

15-09-2005, 12:05 AM

Woah, this is turning out to be some competition!

I wasn't so sure about your concept, Athey, but I think the model looks absolutely terrific so far! I really like how you've done the shinguard piece. Did you build a leg and then armor it, or just jump straight into the metal stuff?

Really nice concept, Cyrenn, but he's looking pretty offbalance in the side orthographic. I wouldn't recommend modelling him in that position, as it looks like he's about to fall over. :eek:

Cyrenn

15-09-2005, 12:14 AM

~X~

15-09-2005, 01:26 AM

Welp,

I was told to keep you people updated with work in progress so here it is.

I completed his head.....almost, he still needs his braid which i ammodeling as i post this.

Stats:

Tri count 1248 Edit: now 1340 because i defined the mouth more :roll:
poly count:630 Edit: 674

Screen:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/Dogfood/OmegaHeadwip1.jpg

i will keep you posted asn i continue.

~X~
:halo:

ps Cyrenn you need to get on msn more lol

Athey

15-09-2005, 04:27 AM

Did you build a leg and then armor it, or just jump straight into the metal stuff?

Straight to it all. Started with the foot and worked up.
The mesh is actually water-tight except for the knee guards that come up.

~X~ Looking good ^_^

Update:

http://www.cat-print.com/storage/025_compile2.jpg

~X~

15-09-2005, 04:45 AM

lol your too damn fast athey i swear.

but its looking good.....as usual.

you plan on giving him a solide texture or make him part water? (since that is his eliment)

drawing up some new refs for the other parts btw so you wont see an update for awhile from me.

l8rz space-monkies,

~X~
:halo:

Rashika-3DT

15-09-2005, 05:52 AM

hey athey, may i please see a wireframe of yours? i'd like to cheat a bit. (actually, i just want to see how you did the ****** area)

evil-98

15-09-2005, 05:55 AM

wow nice athey!! i want to start a new one :/ but i dont know what to do!!

Rashika-3DT

15-09-2005, 07:07 AM

hiya! i'd like to see if anyone would like to join us in our 3d community. so far we have 8 people, including fastrak, marty_mcfly, adamos, hammering3d, 3dvirus, Moe's, dele and myself. the idea behind it is to help each other out with 3d, and to have someone to talk to about it. its really helpful, and i've recruited a few of these who think thi sounds like an interesting challenge. its on yahoo messenger so it is instant.

~X~

15-09-2005, 07:21 AM

you can add me if you want.

Little_ninjai_xg130@yahoo.com

~X~
:halo:

Zcubed

15-09-2005, 07:23 AM

Ooh, add me too! My screename on YIM is "zcubed2" (No quotes)

Athey

15-09-2005, 08:02 AM

Wires and a teeny update: (got hands done)

http://www.cat-print.com/storage/025_compile3.gif

CaseyD2K

15-09-2005, 08:59 AM

Yo yo yo!! I started working on this early this afternoon i've been gone most of the day so I haven't gotten a chance to post this until just now so check it out:

CaseyD2K

15-09-2005, 09:00 AM

I'm workin on his body right now I made a few concept adjustments that you will see when completed!!

Nappa

15-09-2005, 11:40 AM

Athey you model so far reminded me of metirod Prime you ever heared of that game

~X~

15-09-2005, 11:44 AM

............what?

~X~
:halo:

evil-98

15-09-2005, 11:54 AM

Athey you model so far reminded me of metirod Prime you ever heared of that game

ummm kinda.. :blah: lol

im working on some new sketchs. ill post them tomorrow :crazy:

CaseyD2K

15-09-2005, 01:15 PM

Alright here we go I'm gonna make a few adjustments to tweak out parts and make it a little neater!! (This is just my progress so far i'm not fully done yet). I'm new to this whole Low-Poly thing so pick it apart please i'm still learning and any constructive criticism would be helpful.

CaseyD2K

15-09-2005, 01:20 PM

bigger...

Cyrenn

15-09-2005, 01:52 PM

Nice job everyone!
Everyone is doing such a great job.

Casey good hussle - your bot is coming along nicely: )

Athey - your setting the pace fo sho : )

Nappa you see Samus in Atheys model, I dont realy see metroid in Neptune man at all. But you also said my bot looked like it came form Sonic the Hedge HOG! LOL! Just messin wit cha: )

I feel like bustin one out now, *breaking into a sweat, trying to decide weather I want to do one*!

Jump on in the comp Bryce: ) looking forward to seeing what kind of concept you come up with : )

Ok well I finally go the chance to work on my bot, still got a bit to go: )
but wanted to show Meth Mans progress: )

Not quite sure about the arms were they connect to the shoulders. I rigged the arms earlier, so far he can move them , but I might run into complications : ( So hopefully I can figure out a way to better that shoulder.

Feel free to pick it apart: )

evil-98

15-09-2005, 07:44 PM

^^ nice!.

casey: IMO i think he kinda skinny lol

~X~

15-09-2005, 09:09 PM

^^ nice!.

casey: IMO i think he kinda skinny lol

would have to agree only with the legs lol. looks like he didnt do any leg exersizes as a child. other than that fantastic.

well heres my update.....not as good as your guys' but meh im stil working on it lol:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/Dogfood/problemo.jpg

But i also have a problem:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/Dogfood/updated.jpg

I want to ad edges because i know it will deform incorctly in animation. I just have no idea where i should add them. Sugestions on that would be helpful.

And yes i do plan on giving him a neck. lol

Other than that, kepp up the good work.

L8rz Space Monkies,

~X~
:halo:

Nappa

15-09-2005, 10:05 PM

i see the little things that people dont see like how ~x~ head model looks like Cell head from DBZ dont take any offence to what i say im just noticing things

Rashika-3DT

15-09-2005, 10:26 PM

nappa, cells head looks much different. take a look at the eyes, not human. the nose... there is none. the skull bone shape is not as vertical. besides. i think every type of head has been made, so you gotta expect some similarities.

Athey

15-09-2005, 10:50 PM

It's reminicent of Cell's 2nd form (Cell didn't have human facial features - the nose and mouth specifically - until his 3rd form) In his 2nd form, his face was similar to this one. But it's still only a very vague similarity. It's more like if Cell's 2nd form and evil kid buu got merged into one. hehe..

Anyways, ~X~ - if you want help with placing the edges, it'd be nice to have a wireframe view ^_^;; Otherwise, it's hard to really help in that department.

~X~

15-09-2005, 11:23 PM

Athey thnx for pointing out my thread mistake, its been edited.

Nappa-As for cell I actually wasnt thinking about Cell, infact i drew up 10 diferent heads and this seemed to be the most posible to model lol.

other than that i think i have the arm-pit fixed but i think its not correct, so look up top to give me sugestions lol.

You guys are sooooo cool im gonna vote a 5 * on this lol.

Peace out, A-town Down,

~X~
:halo:

Cyrenn

15-09-2005, 11:41 PM

Looking good so far X - As for the model looking like cell, Im sure in some ways it can, but if you think about it everything we draw is inspired by something I suppose. Maybe not intentially but Im sure that image bank in our head collects all kinds of reference that were not quite sure where the inspiration comes from, its just there. : )

I probably didn't make a damn bit of sense LOL!

But great job X - Omega man is coming along well, keep up the good hussle: )

Updated the Legs and But, ALl whats left is the eyes, I'm thinking about axing the pipe on the back. I sorta like the way hes looking now: )

evil-98

16-09-2005, 11:02 AM

ahh! i feel so far behind.. its looking good cyrenn matchs your concept well

Cyrenn

16-09-2005, 11:21 AM

ahh! i feel so far behind.. its looking good cyrenn matchs your concept well

You got plenty of time Evil-98, don't rush yourself. Feel free to hit me up for question in case youhave any: )

Thx For the comment Evil - Heres an update of da EYES: )

Brodix

16-09-2005, 12:23 PM

Man everybody this is looking great. Cyrenn Kudos for the idea. I would love to get in on this, but I am so busy with my current mod. If I think of a name I just cant live without and a good concept i may come in anyways. Cheers everyone

BEELOW

16-09-2005, 12:44 PM

Cool stuff guys, I may get in on this!!!!

Cyrenn

16-09-2005, 12:50 PM

Zcubed

17-09-2005, 12:27 AM

Cool stuff, Cyrenn. I'm liking the smooth, spherical look. Could you show us a wireframe and a polycount?

Weekend is finally here, so it's time to get the creative juices working! I'll try to draw up a concept tonight so I can get modeling. I'm short of ideas at the moment, but I'll leaf through some Megaman stuff and try to think something up. :dance:

Cyrenn

17-09-2005, 01:30 AM

evil-98

17-09-2005, 02:09 AM

bsstz817

17-09-2005, 02:30 AM

Meth Man look good.... I was wondering if: 1 is this contest recent (old) or did it just start, 2: what is the deadline for the models. I say this because I just thought of a person. You ready........"COPY MAN" And as I type this I think of another character. You ready for this one.......... "CYBER MAN" I have a sketch of Copy Man but I don't know how to put him on the forum. How do I do that.

CaseyD2K

17-09-2005, 02:41 AM

Heres a slightly revised multi angle view of good ol Wreck Man...Unfortunately shortly after this screenshot was taken my 3dsMax took a dump on me so i'm gonna have to reinstall it or something in order to texture this baddy!

evil-98

17-09-2005, 02:41 AM

^^ its fairly new, just jump on in.

CaseyD2K

17-09-2005, 02:46 AM

Yo! bsstz817, it's easy! when you go to post a reply make sure you are in advanced mode and go to manage attachments you can upload the pick straight from your desktop as long as it's under 100 kb's. Or you can link the image through a Photobucket type program the choice is yours!

~X~

17-09-2005, 03:27 AM

gah!,

I am seeing all these good models and in compariso to mine, mine is crap. So i just might redisign the whole thing cuz this is getting on my bad side lol. oh and add me to your msn lists, We can exchange helpful hints.

dark_messiah_187@hotmail.com

l8rz,

~X~
:halo:

Athey

17-09-2005, 04:06 AM

Cyrenn

17-09-2005, 04:07 AM

^^^ question.

since your arms arent connected to the model will that effect the rigging? and animation?
and it also looks like the lower torus isnt connected to the body either. correct me if im wrong.

i think you should model the jaw seperate and show some teeth. :)

:dance:

edit: and i guess hes left handed lol :crazy: :lame:

evil-98 - As for certain pieces being seperate this shouldn't effect the rigging at all. I'm actually going to test rig it here next before I textur it. Just so I can make some adjustments to the mesh. I want to see if the deformations will go right, and I want to see how far I can move his limbs around before they collide: )

I like the idea about the teeth, maybe I'll play around with his grill so that I can expose some choppers : )

bsstz817 - This comp is fairly new only a few day old : ) Jump right in, you should have a blast coming up with your own Villain: )

CaseyD2K - Looking great. I was curious on how you were going to rig the Chain & ball: ) That thing looks mean as hell: ) Great job: )

X - Your bot is coo to: ) Just keep on progressing on it and It will turn out great: )

~X~

17-09-2005, 04:31 AM

damn and i just doodled a new concept for nothing then :zzz:

well we will see.

thing is i dont think he fits the theme of megaman, that and i cant get a neck made for him.

but if you insist,

~X~
:halo:

evil-98

17-09-2005, 04:49 AM

^^ there are alot of series you should search it. my new concept is something matching

megaman X or Zero

edit: ok im ready,

my new concept is called Big Man and youll see why in my next update

~X~

17-09-2005, 05:32 AM

i know,

just saying that my current design wasnt ment too look like one, it was ment to look more streamlined.

but big man huh.......how big are we talkin here?

~X~
:halo:

PS congrats, the comp is now 5* rating MWUAHAUAHAHAHAUAHRTDAFBAFGHH!

Dave_UK

17-09-2005, 05:48 AM

Cool thread, am interested in this compo and already have a few designes with couple of sketches so hopefully I'll post my idea in th next few days :)

evil-98

17-09-2005, 07:00 AM

yay after around and hour and a half we have a concept!! :lame:

the power of wacom :crazy:

haha tell me what you guys think.

http://evil98.insanity-asylum.com/megaman/bigman1.jpg

Nappa

17-09-2005, 07:35 AM

You know, I just realized that the limit is 5000 QUADS, not 5000, Polys (tris). Freaking 10,000 limit?!?? o_O yeesh!! Insanity... I get a max of 800 verts per character at work, so forcing myself to add enough detail to use 10,000 tris is damned-near impossible.

so at work you get about 1616 face's per character

well when we decide that rule i didnt want to limit people to much just make some boarders What i did mean is that the limit was 5000 [quads](thats 2 tri which make a square) thats a total of 10,000 tris but i also wanted the limit to be 10,000 quad face as well i was half sleep when i made that rule it was like 4 am we it was deicde to be a rule. We want to see some polished finished models that just make people go awwwso i guess the tri limit is 20,000 so the models have to be 5,000 to 10,000 QUADS if theres a probly with that well see what we can do about it

Cyrenn

17-09-2005, 07:40 AM

so at work you get about 1616 face's per character

well when we decide that rule i didnt want to limit people to much just make some boarders What i did mean is that the limit was 5000 [quads](thats 2 tri which make a square) thats a total of 10,000 tris but i also wanted the limit to be 10,000 quad face as well i was half sleep when i made that rule it was like 4 am we it was deicde to be a rule. We want to see some polished finished models that just make people go awwwso i guess the tri limit is 20,000 so the models have to be 5,000 to 10,000 QUADS if theres a probly with that well see what we can do about it

Actually I thought we had 5000 polys, which I thought made 10,000tris : )
Im no professional by any means LOL!

But the limit is 5,000 Polys.

evil-98

17-09-2005, 07:52 AM

but with that kinda of limit i dont have to worry about optimizing :)

hum... i need a head lol :dance:

Cyrenn

17-09-2005, 07:55 AM

Big Man and Meth Man can be homies, and Jump Mega man LOL!

Looking forward to seeing him modeled: )

Zcubed

17-09-2005, 08:02 AM

Cyrenn

17-09-2005, 08:08 AM

Woah! When people referr to "polies" in realtime work, they tend to mean triangles. I thought the limit was 5,000 tris! It's your contest, Cyrenn, but I think you should drop the poly limit a good deal. 5,000 should be more than enough for a character. Plus, face counts are hardly as reliable. If you've got any n-gons in your mesh you'll have a different tri-face relationship (5 sided polys are 3 triangles, 6 sided are 4, etc.)

It's your contest, Cyrenn, so it's your call. I'd recommend listening to Athey on this one, but it's up to you. :smug:

EDIT - Nappa, you want 20,000 triangles!?! I don't really see your point. Some of the most impressive stuff I've seen on the web has been done with HUNDREDS of triangles, surely we can make some neato models with five THOUSAND.

I supposed we should get Atheys opinion on this. : ) if we go 5,000 tries thats still plenty: ) I still made the cut on that LOL! I mean 5,000 tirs is still alot: ) I never new that they refered a tri as one whole Poly: )

And now I know: ) And knowing is Half the Battle! GI JOEEEEEEEEE!
Umm never mind about that: ) But yea Lets get Atheys opinion on this, SO maybe we should make it 5,000 tri's I mean the comp is still early, and I think its better to get modelers who want to join this thread used to having a limited Poly count : )

SO let me know what everyone thinks : ) 5,000 tris?

But I thought the newer game engines are pushing 10,000 tris now: ) So that why I had the limit to 5,000 polys : ) I hope I'm making any sense: )

evil-98

17-09-2005, 08:15 AM

ya i also think 5000 tris is more then enough.

Cyrenn

17-09-2005, 08:21 AM

What are the newest game engine Limits, How many polys are they pushing: )

if anyone can answer that: ) We will figure out some limit from there: )

Whats the new Unreal engine pushing. Or the New Xbox 360 : ) ?

evil-98

17-09-2005, 08:26 AM

^^ i remember some of the really crazy unreal engine models with normals pushing 6000+ tris

but im not sure.

Cyrenn

17-09-2005, 08:28 AM

^^ i remember some of the really crazy unreal engine models with normals pushing 6000+ tris

but im not sure.

So 5,000 tri's should be enough: )

I think thats perfect : )

Zcubed

17-09-2005, 08:34 AM

I'm sure you guys have seen screenshots of Half Life 2. The enemy troops in that game looked absolutely spectacular, and they're only around 3,700 triangles.

5,000 triangles sounds perfect to me. :smug:

Cyrenn

17-09-2005, 08:41 AM

Nappa

17-09-2005, 08:57 AM

Sorry about the confusion done on my part the new Tri limit is 5,000 were not using the word quad or poly anymore to resolved that part

and on a side note hl2 use normals to make there model look that way but i dont think were going to add normals as a part of this competetion

So as from now on Normal Bumps displacement maps ect are all considered effects which are allowed and have no limits

evil-98

17-09-2005, 09:06 AM

muhaha

http://evil98.insanity-asylum.com/megaman/bigman1.jpg
http://evil98.insanity-asylum.com/megaman/bigman2.jpg

Nappa

17-09-2005, 09:28 AM

evil looking promising

~X~

17-09-2005, 09:32 AM

lol nice,

but my bot is gonna be like 3 ft tal, so in comparison to that, how tall is your bot gonna be?

~X~
:halo:

evil-98

17-09-2005, 10:51 AM

^^ well i was thinking something around 9'+

we should have a battle scene w/ megaman.. someone model megaman!!

evil-98

17-09-2005, 01:13 PM

kinda stuck with the chest area, and the legs.. seems like they get in the way of the arms!... and the back i need something to ref from

but anyways heres an update on bigman woot

http://evil98.insanity-asylum.com/megaman/bigman3.jpg

~X~

17-09-2005, 08:55 PM

granted i have only done like two other models b4, i think you can pull it off.

in my opinion i think you will need to rotate some looops. and for the arems (if you wanted) you could have a little exstention inbetween the space of the joint and the torso. but i donno how you want that to look so gl with it.

as for the megaman i was thinking of making a brawl seen with a different type of bot that i was gonna model, but if you can get someone to make mega man I think i would want my bot in that animation lol.

Other than that, I will not start modeling my bot til Oct.1 sinc i will be moving to california. so look forward to the new bot :crazy:

I will catch you all in the future,

~X~
:halo:

evil-98

17-09-2005, 09:19 PM

^^ were in california?!

i fixed the torus a bit

http://evil98.insanity-asylum.com/megaman/bigman4.jpg
http://evil98.insanity-asylum.com/megaman/bigman5.jpg

~X~

17-09-2005, 11:13 PM

I will be residing in the lovely city of ojai.

anyway i was thinking about your bot's leges and i think you should continue modeling them, but his pose can be sort of sloutched over. that way the arms are infront and not interfereing, that and if he attacks or moves to dodge or whatnot im sure his arms wont run into anything.

and if that sugestion is no good you could always make the arms a tad smaller but they throw the bot together. damn im ranting again lol.

you will see my new bot concept oct.3 and WIP starting hopefully oct 10.

l8rz onz,

~X~
:halo:

Cyrenn

18-09-2005, 02:31 AM

Yea Big Man looks like hes off to a great start, as X was refering to, I think it would be a great Idea to slouch him over, kinda like how a big silver back gorilla would stand: )

Keep up the great work Evil.

X - Have a safe trip, see ya back here soon: )

evil-98

18-09-2005, 07:44 AM

^^ ya hes is sloughed you just cant see it that well, i want to bend his back and have him bending his knees.

im having some trouble with some of the modeling right now, which im hoping to get tru

and i think i might have a head

evil-98

18-09-2005, 12:27 PM

yay another update!

legs need to be fixed, there too close to each other and some other stuff. still need a head, and im running out of polys... lol im at 3000+

http://evil98.insanity-asylum.com/megaman/bigman6.jpg
http://evil98.insanity-asylum.com/megaman/bigman7.jpg
http://evil98.insanity-asylum.com/megaman/bigman7wire.jpg
http://evil98.insanity-asylum.com/megaman/bigmanwire.jpg

:dance:

Cyrenn

18-09-2005, 01:13 PM

I really like how Big man is shaping: )

His arms kinda remind me of That Transformer Rumbles Jack Hammers: )

Looks like he could cause some serious damage if he lays one on ya :eek:

~X~

18-09-2005, 08:39 PM

Actualy, you have enough left over for it, you have a limit of 5,000 and you alny use 3,000. and personaly i ont see usign more than a thousand polys on a head, i mean you could streach it.

gl with it though, really youcan do it.

~X~
:halo:

~X~

18-09-2005, 11:03 PM

I feel bad, i said i wouldnt start modeling till oct 3 but i made my bot's sword.

polycount: 364

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/Dogfood/Swordy.jpg

well back to packing my bags,

l8r on people,

~X~
:halo:

Edit: My bot's new name is Dark Man....why is it my names for this comp are names of movies....lol pc out

edit again: those arnt the colors, i just wanted to make it flashy.

Rashika-3DT

19-09-2005, 06:52 AM

this might soiund dumb... but ow does one open that polycount window?

Cyrenn

19-09-2005, 07:17 AM

this might soiund dumb... but ow does one open that polycount window?

Go to your control panel and hit the Hammer looking Icon: ) Then hit (MORE)

A list should pop up and it should say polygon counter: )

Hope that helps: )

X - The swrod looks great , Im diggin the whole color of the blade handle : )

Zcubed

19-09-2005, 07:25 AM

My Max trial is long expired, but I think it was in the "Utilities" panel. Make sure you've got it counting triangles and not faces.

EDIT - Gah! Cyrenn is too quick for me! And he even mentioned the little hammer icon! :eek:

Really nice work, Evil. I like the chestpiece a lot, and the classic Megaman-esque boots are well done too. You seem to have done a good job technologically, so my main critique would be more conceptual. The guy just seems kinda plain right now. It might be a little too early to tell (Seeing as he's still missing a face ;P ), but he just seems like his name might be Generic Man. I think you could definetly push the design a little more.

It's just an opinion, though. It's very possible that I'm jumping the gun or just being dumb, so don't take my post to heart. :smug:

evil-98

19-09-2005, 07:38 AM

^^

well i dont do much character designing this is really my first..

but i understand what you mean, ill see if i can spice it up.

Zcubed

19-09-2005, 08:09 AM

Yeah, I hope I didn't sound too harsh. You seem to be far better at concepting than I am, as I'm still not sure what to do for MY bot. :grr:

Nappa

19-09-2005, 11:59 PM

still cant come up with anything zcube you know the concept doesnt have to look like a million dollar work of art can be a scribble of just the basic shape and little a detail like a name

Cyrenn

20-09-2005, 12:05 AM

Yeah, I hope I didn't sound too harsh. You seem to be far better at concepting than I am, as I'm still not sure what to do for MY bot. :grr:

Try and think of somehting off the wall : ) Like Pimp Man: ) He can look like a Pimped out Bot with Platforms that have goldfish swimming in them: ) His power could be a Bitch slap to the face that stuns it's foes. :shout:

Athey

20-09-2005, 01:08 AM

Gyah - I am SO exhausted... No updates at all. Super-busy at work, and this weekend was a bust cuz I hardly even got to use my computer at all the whole time.

I'm glad the poly limit was lowered - lol... 20,000 tris would be insane. Seriously.....

Right now I'm actually optimizing a bunch of models at work for the multi-player stuff - I've gotta get all of these models down to around 700-800 tris. bleh.
Soooo lame.

5k is a good limit. Most megaman Bots are pretty simple in design too, so 5k is more then enough.

I would really like to hope that I'll have time to work on my model more someday soon, but I've got no garuntees. *le sigh*

Zcubed

20-09-2005, 01:35 AM

Yeah, you're right Nappa. I've been kinda busy, so I think I'm just making excuses at this point. I don't have much work tonight, so I'll really try to put SOMETHING up. :hurt:

~X~

20-09-2005, 03:51 AM

you should make Kinetic Man, his ability can be Telekinesis.

I donna, just a random thought.

~X~
:halo:

evil-98

20-09-2005, 10:19 AM

update!

http://evil98.insanity-asylum.com/megaman/bigman8.jpg
http://evil98.insanity-asylum.com/megaman/bigman8wire.jpg

Cyrenn

20-09-2005, 10:42 AM

Hey Evil, Big man is pretty cool: ) I like it: ) I was wondering how do you do your wire frame: )

Or how are you getting that interesting wire pic: ) Good you possiable explain that if you get the chance: )

evil-98

20-09-2005, 10:53 AM

Cyrenn

20-09-2005, 12:17 PM

well vray has a function of rendering the wireframe, its just a shader in vray
you can do it with any other render too, but it doesnt look as good

basicly you apply a gradient ramp and five your model a uvw map (face)
http://jeffpatton.net/Tips/Wire-gradient.jpg

and thanks for the comments, hows meth man

Thanks Evil- That was awsome: ) I've always wanted to know how they did that wire frame look: ) That why I love these threads LOL!

I'll be unwrapping Meth Man in a bit, I just had to get caught up on some other work : )

~X~

20-09-2005, 10:30 PM

hey evil,

I was just curious as to how many polies your bot is at right aboot now?

l8erz 0n,

~X~
:halo:

evil-98

21-09-2005, 02:35 AM

^^

the model itself is around 3800+ tris w/ out the head and i still need to model some stuff, adjust some of the details and optimize some parts. like the hand its around 280-300+ tris so ill probally optimize that or re-model it, some of it is a waste which im working on getting fixed. i need to model the back and some details on the legs, the cape and his head.

i think my model will be over 5000 tris but im sure i can get it down to just the limit

~X~

21-09-2005, 04:23 AM

Yeah I noticed that when i saw the last wire/render.

if you ever need any sugestions throw me an e-mail at : Dark_messiah_187@hotmail.com

L8rz,

~X~
:halo:

lowlevel

21-09-2005, 09:28 AM

sup people, i finally decided to be apart of this forum (actively), due to this thread, mega-man is one of my favorite characters...so heres my small post....Cyrenn i know one of the criteria for the contest was posting your original sketch....i'll definitely post it tomorrow, this is just a small update again more to come
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/8186/firstnovaman9yr.jpg

evil-98

21-09-2005, 09:38 AM

looks pretty cool so far.

Cyrenn

21-09-2005, 10:10 AM

Just post up your concept and his name when you get the chance: ) and his ability: )

Hes looking pretty good: ) looking forward to seeign him develope: )

Rashika-3DT

21-09-2005, 10:41 AM

and heres my concept. im gonna need some help with this one, so any assistance would be most appreciated. this is my first ever low poly creation.
name- fission man
power- nuclear fission reactor in his torso supplies heat for his superheated plasma beam. also, he can heat the ground to cause fissures that mega man can fall into.
weakness- hitting him in the fission reactor in his torso is his only weakness.
mega man's acquired ability- fission bomb. can be used twice before recharge.
causes all non-boss creatures on screen to be destroyed. effect on bosses- takes away 1/3 life from all normal bosses, any ice bosses, it takes away 1/2 life.

sorry, i kinda went all out on the character, i figured the more i knew about him, the better it would be.

also, i apologize for the crappy drawing.

Rashika-3DT

21-09-2005, 11:09 PM

crickets... crickets... no comments?

Ovnuniak

21-09-2005, 11:15 PM

The 3/4 view show his torso is quite boxy. Maybe round it a bit?

Cyrenn

22-09-2005, 12:49 AM

Great to see you finally come up with your concept Rashika: )

Fission Man seems pretty damn deadly: ) The Fission Cannon! Oh snap!
I remember Megatron having a Fusion Cannon and that thing kicked ass: )

As for your modeling, Looks like your following your concept pretty close,
I would put some detail around the arms, maybe give him somemore geometry around the elbows so that he can get some good deformation in when it comes time to his rig: )

Keep the updates comming, and great hussle: )

Rashika-3DT

22-09-2005, 02:38 AM

thanks cyrenn. like i said this is my first low poly character (actually first character at all) and i dont exactly understand what you mean by "add more geometry around the elbows" can you show me how it will deform when rigged? perhaps a wireframe example of an acceptable elbow/knee?

Rashika-3DT

22-09-2005, 03:33 AM

you know what? scratch that model. im in the process of making one that is slightly less... stupid looking.will have an update tonight. but i'd still like to see how to make this so he is rig-able.

Rashika-3DT

22-09-2005, 05:55 AM

and heres the new and (hopefully) improved model of the torso. c&c VERY welcome.

Cyrenn

22-09-2005, 06:26 AM

Hey Rashika, I like the way this model is looking, I like it 100x better : )
He looks like he's off to a promising start: )

Keep up the good work: )

Zcubed

22-09-2005, 06:44 AM

Nice update, Rashika. Interesting design, I like the torso thus far.

My advice would be to keep rotating the model as you work. It looks like your character is becoming a little flat, so make sure you try to follow the figure from ALL angles. Pulling some points in the side view might help this guy a lot. :smug:

evil-98

23-09-2005, 09:11 AM

update

http://evil98.insanity-asylum.com/megaman/bigman11.jpg
http://evil98.insanity-asylum.com/megaman/bigman11wire.jpg
http://evil98.insanity-asylum.com/megaman/bigmanwire1.jpg

lowlevel

23-09-2005, 09:35 AM

hey evil...looking nice on the update :D
what i wanted to ask you was about the wireframe rendering post you made...now do you need to set-up a specific renderer for that to take effect?...becuase i saw the link you gave about that wireframe rendering tutorial, and i did what they said, but i just want to know if theres anything i might be missing that you may have found out on your own....take care and cant wait to see more updates on you mega villain.

Cyrenn

23-09-2005, 05:35 PM

Yea i really love how you render out those wires. I can't seem to get mine to look as nice as your wire render: ) I followed the step on that tutorial but still cant seem to get even wires all around: )

Big man is looking pretty mean: ) I like the detail in the chest plate armour: )

Well here's an update, I was just test rigging METH MAN, to see how well I could pose him. So far so good. I still will probably have to make some changes: )

But thought Id share an update: )

evil-98

24-09-2005, 02:04 AM

hey nice update too, but i dont know about the hands. looks kinda weird to me
and the way hes standing, i think his knees should have more bend.

i still need to clean up the model add alot of details and remodel the forearm and hand fix the knee and make a head...

Zcubed

24-09-2005, 03:03 AM

Woah, you guys are really making progress. All the bots look great, and we've got a good deal of variety between them.

I think I'll finally join in, no more excuses. It seems that I'm out of my league, but I figure I'll get something finished and hope to learn a few tricks in the process. I can't decide on a name for my character, but I've got the general idea in my mind. He fights using air that runs to his hands through piping on his arms. His ability to manipulate the air allows him to compress it and give it form. I'm thinking that he can fling air projectiles and maybe do some slicing and dicing by whipping his hands around and and focusing the air into a blade.

Stupid idea maybe, but my creativity is lacking lately. :hurt:

Anyways, I started the head this afternoon. I tried to draw up some concepts, but I couldn't finish any decent ones and just jumped right into Wings 3D.

http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/807/botter7rj.jpg

Learning how to use Wings has been fun. I like the poly modeling tools a lot, and it's absolutely free. No real renderer though, so don't expect any fancy GI images from me. :smug:

EDIT- Forgot to include the triangle count. I'm sitting at 530 right now, so I think I still have quite a bit of detail to add to the head...

lowlevel

24-09-2005, 06:09 AM

hey guys here's the skinny on "BIO MAN"

He uses the canons on his chest, Knees, and hands to eject a massive Nuclear explosion, which has a chemical make-up of acid that can peel the skin of any who comes in contact. The negative effects of the attack is that it can only be used once due to its tremendous area of attack. Once used Bio Man becomes "very very" vulnerable and can be easily defeated if his target of attack is missed (Mega- Man).

Name of Attack: BIO Canon Explode !!

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/2980/bioman7rr.jpg

Technical part: 3854 tris and 1906 polys

still alotta room to smooth out those edgy areas and of course add the hands :wave:

i dont know if i should keep those knee canons, but thats the way i sketched it out....speaking of... i gotta scan that in as soon as possible cyrenn

Cyrenn

24-09-2005, 02:44 PM

Nice start so far Z cubed: ) Wings 3d looks like an interesting 3d program. I heard of it before but never read into it. How are the polygon tools in there.

I like your head so far, has the Classic Mega man styl;e helmetL : ) This is a sugestion, what if you decide to go with the big round cartoony eyes: )

Keep up the good work: )

Lowlevel - Looks like your bot can take out the whole damn city LOL!
Is his hands cannons to of just the front chest part? if so are you planning on giving him hands?

Keep up the great work both of you.

lowlevel

24-09-2005, 07:05 PM

no cyrenn i am going to give him hands, but the center of his hands is going to have like a barrel look in the palms of his hands....and i think i have to
re-do his knees cause i do think thats over board...but like one of the criteria's are, the character has to have 1 attack and that attack is really 1, it just comes outta four places at once....but dont worry i think i'm scrapping the canons on the knees, but thanks for the input. I have alot more to do in terms of setting the character up for rigging, but i'll post the update very soon :wave:

Cean

24-09-2005, 07:30 PM

@lowlevel: looking nice!!
I think re-doing the knees is a good idea :)
maybe you proceed with the spiked look at the side of the boots. A big spike instead of the knee cannon would work and would not look that exaggerated ;P
looking forward to updates

Zcubed

25-09-2005, 12:57 AM

Updates!

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/4503/botter035xq.jpg

Crits? Comments? Anyone got a name for him? :lame:

lowlevel

25-09-2005, 01:54 AM

Crits? Comments? Anyone got a name for him?

Zcubed: i love the classic look Z cubed, and i love the update on the helmet...the only thing i see about it is maybe the shoulders, i'm not too sure if you'll get a desired look when it comes down to rigging...unless thats his body suit and he has more armor to him. the chin also looks abit wide...but who am i if your initial sketch was like that well leave everything be :) about the name...well figure out whats going to be his gimmick and run with that, i see no weapons yet or anything i could see that will shout out a name on my end....looking real good though keep it up

Cean: @lowlevel: looking nice!!
I think re-doing the knees is a good idea
maybe you proceed with the spiked look at the side of the boots. A big spike instead of the knee cannon would work and would not look that exaggerated
looking forward to updates

i did do a spike type of deal, anything right now going on those knees would be better, and i got no problems chopping up my mesh to make it look better...heres what i did let me know if this is what you were talking about or not:

http://img307.imageshack.us/img307/5875/newbioknees4ml.jpg

please let me know...trying to get the last tweaks out the way before i start texturing

Zcubed

25-09-2005, 02:33 AM

Thanks for the advice, lowlevel. You mentioned a few of the things I was questioning myself, so it's good to hear them confirmed by someone else. The chin is looking quite broad for the slender, megaman-esque character. The shoulder probably needs to be improved too. I think I spent as much time working on the shoulder as I did the head, but there's STILL work to be done! The shoulder is really my problem area.

As for the character's gimmick, I presented a few ideas when I posted the head image last night. Just scroll up a little. Maybe you can think of a name, mine all sound really cheesy. :lame:

I like your character so far, but I think I see a few things worth fixing in this last image. Those little holes in his shins look WAY too dense. I wouldn't give that thing more than six sides, but it looks like it's got close to fifteen! The feet are still looking too cylindrical too. Try to give them some more form.

lowlevel

25-09-2005, 05:07 AM

zcubed: now that i saw it i did read about what you said your villain was going to do, the fact that he can manipulate air into "pockets of air"....that name popped at me when i saw again what your character will do as an attack, how about
"Pocket Man", thats what i got from your description of what he's going to do....

about my character, i do see what you mean about his feet glad someone told me about those i needed a second opinion there...about hi shin pieces, those originally was gonna be used as weapons also, but like i posted in my last post i am gonna dumb down alot of my mesh to a more sense of believability....now for the reason they look like that is because i did model them right outta the shin, but it didnt go too well, it looked really bowy and not attractive to the eye...the legs to me in mega man was always an eye catcher for me they were for the most part different for alotta the villains...but i will take in what you say and lessen the edges in there abit, thanks for the tip

evil-98

25-09-2005, 05:39 AM

heres another update, just finished modeling the back
and now im at 4468 tris, and im giving myself 400+ for the head
and the rest for small details.

http://evil98.insanity-asylum.com/megaman/bigman12.jpg
http://evil98.insanity-asylum.com/megaman/bigman12wire.jpg

and also this is my cell shade test. ive also got a solution for you guys in your wire renders, ill see if it works then ill share ;) lol :lame:

http://evil98.insanity-asylum.com/megaman/bigman%20cellshade4.jpg
http://evil98.insanity-asylum.com/megaman/bigman%20cellshade3.jpg

to everyone else: looks like we really got a competition on our hands now and it all looks great so far keep it up

edit: also i remodeled the right hand :) looks better IMO what you guys think?

:dance:

:dance:

:dance:

:dance:

Nappa

25-09-2005, 08:56 AM

is there a way to control the black lines in a cell shade so that the black line is always in that perticalar spot no matter what?

Zcubed

25-09-2005, 09:00 AM

My main crit would be that you mess around with Vray too much! ;P

Stop cranking out fancy renders and finish your model. It's realtime art, so he's not going to get a GI treatment once he leaves Max. Everything looks really nice so far, and I want to see how you'll tackle the head. The poly distribution seems quite good too, I don't see any areas that are far more dense than the others. You could shave some off, certainly, but you've been given 5,000 triangles and you should use every last one of them.

I wonder if your head placeholder is a little big. You're trying to make the guy look huge, so shrinking down the head might make his body look bigger by comparison. :smug:

evil-98

25-09-2005, 09:18 AM

is there a way to control the black lines in a cell shade so that the black line is always in that perticalar spot no matter what?

from what it looks like its controlled by smoothing groups, well atleast from what i see, every edge that doesnt have the same smoothing group seems to render the black lines, you can adjust the thinkness and what not from there.

My main crit would be that you mess around with Vray too much! ;P

Stop cranking out fancy renders and finish your model. It's realtime art, so he's not going to get a GI treatment once he leaves Max. Everything looks really nice so far, and I want to see how you'll tackle the head. The poly distribution seems quite good too, I don't see any areas that are far more dense than the others. You could shave some off, certainly, but you've been given 5,000 triangles and you should use every last one of them.

I wonder if your head placeholder is a little big. You're trying to make the guy look huge, so shrinking down the head might make his body look bigger by comparison. :smug:

theres no represention without presentation. :lame:
thanks for the comments, but ya i want to shave some off
the head doesnt seem to be too big, iono well figure when i
start modeling heads.

:drool:

PKT

25-09-2005, 03:43 PM

Very cool thread, and very cool models. Great fun to watch. :)
I used to draw megaman bosses when I was justa little kid.

Cean

25-09-2005, 05:04 PM

Excatly what I meant :)
But I agree with ZCubed, you could spare a lot of polys in the leg and foot area!
@Evil-98: love your modell, no Crits.

evil-98

25-09-2005, 09:18 PM

ok guys i have the cure to the wireframe rendering business!
all you have to do is attach all your objects, select all the edges, create shape, linear
and set the spline to be renderible and adjust the sides and radius and material.

render and enjoy! works pretty cool, just dont try and use the poly count lol

edit: ill make some pics to show you guys :lame:

:wave:

Zcubed

25-09-2005, 09:37 PM

Or you can just push Print Screen. :haha:

I finished blocking out the character.

http://img280.imageshack.us/img280/8074/template1ah.jpg

Still lots of work to be done. I need to tweak the face a bit, as it's still looking quite wide. The hands are also a mess at the moment. I think I'm going to trash them and give it another shot. I also plan on adding some detail to his snazzy new boots.

Crits? Comments? Go ahead and slam my model, just make sure you tell me what needs fixing. :smug:

evil-98

25-09-2005, 09:56 PM

hum, looks pretty simple right now. not much i can say but hes face

looks like a 10 year old bully lol

lowlevel

25-09-2005, 10:10 PM

its maybe only a few things i see, one is the wrist, it looks abit too small...second is the waist, it to me looks too boxy, almost too cylindrical like, the hands of course, you already said that your gonna work on them, they look abit too small also... but the next thing is where is his canon or weapon that he'll use....unless your waiting to finish the rest of the mesh before you attack the accesories......as a side note, it really looks low poly, your mesh looks no more than 2000 tris max, just remeber we have 5000tris to work with push the envelope as much as you can, i know you said your working with wings 3D and you yourself say the tools are limited...but as for the model i love the classic look :wave: keep it up

Zcubed

25-09-2005, 10:36 PM

Thanks for the tips, Lowlevel. I think you're right about the hands being too small, especially since I wanted him to be wearing big, bulky gloves. He supposed to have gloves that let him manipulate the air around him, so I am not really going to be sticking any cannons on him. A couple of other people have also mentioned that the waist looks narrow and boxy. I want to keep him quite slim, but I guess I need to scale it up a little bit. As far as the tricount goes, it's in the image. He stands at a little under 2400, so I'm a little under halfway to the target. Now it's all about adding details and fixing meshflow.

Updates, people! Who will be the first to start mapping? :lame:

Johny

26-09-2005, 04:29 AM

the shoulder area will be very hard to deform incase u plan to animate him , unless he is a static object ;) i would ix it if i were you.

evil-98

26-09-2005, 05:36 AM

heres my wip head
its at 560 tris
its not my final head, just playing right now.

also that wire frame render was using my technic looks like it works pretty well.
http://evil98.insanity-asylum.com/megaman/bigmanhead.jpg

Zcubed

26-09-2005, 05:43 AM

Johny, yeah the shoulder still needs some work. I dunno if I'll even be animating him anyways. Wings has no bones system, so I can't rig him. Blender has animation, but the UI is just too freakin difficult to navigate. I've trid a lot of different packages through trials and learning additions, and I've never had as much trouble with one as I have with Blender. It's just such a struggle to do anything in that program. Maybe it's just me, though, so I shouldn't really bash the software (Especially since it's FREE). I could rig him in XSI Mod Tool or Maya PLE, but then he's pretty much locked in that program as they limit your export options. Anyone have any ideas?

The head is looking nice, Evil. Let me see it on the body. :smug:

evil-98

26-09-2005, 07:50 AM

heres another update

http://evil98.insanity-asylum.com/megaman/bigman13.jpg

lowlevel

26-09-2005, 07:59 AM

looking good evil the head goes with the body nicely, it has a real sentinal or a romanesque look to him...keep it up :wave:

Brodix

26-09-2005, 08:29 AM

Evil: I think he looks great. I really like the color Scheme, I cant tell if those are fangs or not. And I think the head looks great, but I honstly liked the head being blank better. lol

evil-98

26-09-2005, 08:40 AM

^^ ya those are fangs.

i liked it blank too :)

edit: excited with my new head i made this :lame: :drool: ;P :blah:

:evil:

Bigman decktop image (http://evil98.insanity-asylum.com/megaman/bigmanbackground.jpg) << CLICK!

~X~

26-09-2005, 06:58 PM

AB-FAB evil,

I love how this is turning out, i take it he is rigged then. If so i think you should put him in an olypus pose or something of the nature.

I also this the top left square should be your avatar, but thats just my opinion :crazy:

Well 4 more days till i can start my new bot, for some reason i dont think ill be able to finish ontime but ill try.

keep up the fantasstic work gentalmen.

oh im 21 today.....BOOYAH!

L8rz Space-monkiez,

~X~
:halo:

evil-98

26-09-2005, 08:00 PM

acctually he isnt rigged, i just rendered couple views
happy b-day too

thanks for the comments

dhin

26-09-2005, 09:35 PM

A friend of mine once said that Mega-man had nearly unlimited powers and abilities but that he was lactose intolerant. . . WELL In watching this contest I couldn't help but want to enter but nothing I could think of seemed to fit. . . Then I remembered that night playing Mega-man (the original) and that conversation, well it was all down hill from there. All my ideas flowed back the milk thing.

SO here she is Mega-mans arch-enemy the MILK MAID!

http://img304.imageshack.us/img304/1129/milkmaid7la.jpg
http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/9834/gotmilk3dn.jpg
She carries a tank of highly lactated milk which she fires from her arm mounted milk thrower.

theJAYbird

27-09-2005, 08:37 AM

Aight...im on it

models are looking good so far. nice work peeps...

i got a couple ideas, so....thats it

Brodix

27-09-2005, 09:02 AM

As am I, I am on the finishing touches tonigh and I hope to post my concept tommorrow

Nappa

27-09-2005, 10:17 AM

DHIN due to the rules milk maid cant be used as a name for your villain has to end with women or man althought the newer games and tv shows they droped to MAn at the end of every character never really thought that would block alot of creative name's but it has for me

dhin

27-09-2005, 04:45 PM

Rashika-3DT

27-09-2005, 10:50 PM

hey guys, my compy decided to die on me, so i wont be able to update in a while. i still dont know if theres a way to save my character :(
should be getting new parts in this week so i can begin again if i have to.

Cyrenn

27-09-2005, 11:01 PM

Well stickly speaking the Man and Woman thing is to define gender and what not so I though some creative spin like maid or lad could be used. . . But if Cyrenn has a problem with it, or if everyone else feels the same as you do about that interpertation then I'll change the name.

THOUGH in this age of political correctness it really should be Mega-Person, and not Mega-man and that would stand for the villians too. We don't want to appear sexist you know ;) :D
(No I'm not serious I'm being stupid, so Flames to that bit with be treated with equal or greater stupidity!)

Sorry I havent been posting in the last few days, I have been bust with Graduation and interviews and all that fun stuff: ) I'm finally done with school WOOT! WOOT!

As for the Milk Maid names and stuff: ) I would personally like to keep it OG! Like original Ganstas LOL! But the sound of Milk Woman doesnt flow to right: )
But Milk Maid does, But I figured if others decide to use names like Milk Maid I would like them to post an A.K.A after words: )

For example (MILK MAID - A.K.A. - Milk Woman) and so forth.

But again I would like to stress the use of Man & Woman at the end of the names. As for the sexiest thing, its just a contest anyone finding a Man or woman at the end of a Cartoon Robots name must be from the left wing: )
LOL! Just kidding: )

Other good news-: ) I got an e-mail form one of the staff members of CGtalk saying that they thought this would be a great idea for a friendly Contest on there game art thread: ) So if they decided to use this Mega Man Villan as there next contest, it would just make the compintion more challanging LOL!
but im sure the threads would end up being linked to each other: ) In some way of form: )

ANd to all the others that are joining the comp Dhin , Jaybird and others, welcome aboard.

By the way MILK maid looks great she'll be the first sexy style bot : ) Very cool: )

Zcubed

28-09-2005, 12:38 AM

Hey there, Cyrenn, good to hear from you.

I actually much prefer the way that your contest has been conducted to the way that Goat has handled realtime challenges in the past. Rather than drawing up specific concepts for us, you've merely stated a topic and allowed us to take it from there. I like how we're seeing a lot of variety rather than the same model being done by five different people.

Dhin, I think you're pushing it :lame:. It's a nice concept, though I'm not sure how it fits into the megaman universe. BUT, seeing as you've already started working on it I don't think you should be forced to change anything. Looking forward to see how you get your drawing into 3D!

It's a busy week for me, so don't expect any updates until the weekend. :xx:

Yoda

28-09-2005, 01:13 AM

Yoda

28-09-2005, 01:25 AM

or is this the style megaman you like most?
http://www.geocities.com/poggy81/megaman_exe004.jpg

its been really hard to find good references so far

nosaj462

28-09-2005, 08:21 AM

Im in on this also.. I already have my guy modeled but i wont post till i clean up my concepts. Right now they are scribbles. I really want to do some good clean concept drawings for this guy. So far great models guys... cant wait till i get this concept and model posted up. More to come in the future.

evil-98

28-09-2005, 08:51 AM

update
new hair, eye brows, optimized some parts.

http://evil98.insanity-asylum.com/megaman/bigman%2014.jpg

CaseyD2K

28-09-2005, 11:17 AM

Holy Crapola theJayBird!!! Whats up bro!?! Post sumthin man!!!

I think my robot is toast. I either need to start over (which won't be too bad since I wasn't done yet) or hold 3dsMax at gunpoint and tell it what's up!!! You know what they say: The project is always better the second time around! It's the experience!!!

Oh well =(

Yoda

28-09-2005, 11:23 AM

evil-98 i love your model :) its coming on great nice eye brows!

lowlevel

28-09-2005, 09:21 PM

sup people... i see we got some new comers to the contest can't wait to see you guys work, as for me i've been gone for a minute went outta town, but i'm back so i will be posting the final look today with some temporary textures to hopefull give the color scheme i'm going for with the final texturing...peace for now :wave:

:dance:

~X~

28-09-2005, 11:00 PM

gah, im sort of freaked now,

my comp is in cali where im going and im still up here for three more days lol.

and everyone has superb bots going down, that i dont htink i will win....

bt i will try,

keep it up,

~X~
:halo:

~X~

28-09-2005, 11:08 PM

oh and evil,

I was taking another look at the wire of your bot.

first of all its ab-fab, i cant wait to finish my smaller bot and do height comparison lol. but what struck me on my second overview of it was the arms, mainly how they are going to deform. I am pretty sure they will come out ok but, just want to throw the heads up to you so you dont ht a snag later on when you are trying to rig it.

I want to see it in a pose! ;P

~X~
:halo:

evil-98

29-09-2005, 02:56 AM

^^ well ive never rigged anything before so i would know how the mesh would deform. but i didnt make a couple extra polys so i could make sure it would probally deform well hopefully

klan

29-09-2005, 10:01 AM

Hi everybody! Decided to join this contest because it just looks so fun and the whole idea behind it is great. Well, here is my concept, his name is Slam Man and his special power lies in his huge hands, which he can use to, obviously slam stuff, create shockwaves and packs some devistating punches. So let me know what you guys think about the concept. Also this is not the final concept ill most likely at more detail as i model.
Slam Man Concept (http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b156/ragnorok86x/SlamMan.jpg)

Cyrenn

29-09-2005, 01:50 PM

Evil, Big Man looks great. As for the rigging try to work with Character Studio if you have it.

Klan Great Idea with the big Slammin hands, I also like the APe like style you have going, SHould make for an interesting bot: )

Good to have you back soon X: )

Nos - glad to see you make your presense known on the thread, Looking forward to seeing your concepts: )

Casey - You just rock : )

This is becoming quite the thread : )

Hey Nappa, should be time to see your concepts soon : )

smokinpixels

29-09-2005, 11:28 PM

ok...here be the most diabolicle, most hated, biggest hater, to come on the megaman scene in a long while.
this is THEMAN_MAN(enter evil laugh)
yes thats right kids theman_man, he is behind it all and he is by far megamans
most clever foe. his evil powers are his briefcase/machinegun and his abnormally large hand...which he uses to keep the people oppressed, and to beat down on all the little people/robots.

Cyrenn

29-09-2005, 11:38 PM

The Man Man, how funny, thats classic, I take it he's some sort of corporate power hungry executive that like to keep the man down: )

Like he makes sure Mega Man doesnt get his full coverage benifts or even better his unemployment checks when Dr. Lite fires Mega Mans ass for a better up graded model: )

Looking forward to seeing him develope :smug:

Cyrenn

29-09-2005, 11:51 PM

Nice idea on this thread cyrenn i am thinking of modelling Megaman but i will need your guys help on this lol :) i have found a pic of him but there is megaman and megaman x there is alot more ref for the later one so i probably make him then i thinking of doing some of the other good or bad characters this will be my first low poly character mind :D so please help me.
http://www.puffgames.com/megamanflash/megaman.jpg

is that the mega man you were thinking of?

I like the first style Mega Man. He's more O.G. : )

Glad to see you jump aboard, sorry i was going through the thread incase I missed earlier post: ) I would of got back sooner to post up an answer to your question: )

But if you decide to jump into the contest. You need to come up with an original bot. But by all means use Mega Man drawings as some sort of reference: ) Would love to see what you come up with: )

Once again welcome to the thread : )

Athey

30-09-2005, 08:35 AM

For the first time in WEEK, I got some time last night and tonight to work on it. (tonight I only really got about 30 min, but whatever)

Soo! Progress:

http://www.moshimoshineko.com/storage/025_compile4.jpg

Zcubed

30-09-2005, 08:39 AM

Nice work, Athey! Everything is looking nice and clean. You did a good job on the ****** and shoulders, two areas that have been giving me trouble.

My only crit right now is that the eyes look kinda crooked.

Cyrenn

30-09-2005, 09:17 AM

Looks exactly like your concept: ) Very Clean. This ones going to be tuff to beat fo sho.

Great Work Athey.

klan

30-09-2005, 10:24 AM

Got to do some modeling today! So heres my progress.(still working out the color scheme)
SlamMan's Head (http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b156/ragnorok86x/head.gif)

Cyrenn

30-09-2005, 10:57 AM

I already love the way his head looks: )

Very cool style so far. Keep up the good work: )

lowlevel

30-09-2005, 11:05 AM

Athey: hey good to see you again athey back on the posts....i dont know if i mentioned but athey is another reason i joined this thread...from another forum she frequents....glad to see your update athey :wave:

well this is my post for Bio-Man...lemme know what you think
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/9030/biomanfinal4kb.jpg

and this next pic is a glowing texture test i rendered...pay attention to the eyes and the forehead jewel...i just wanted to see if it would work
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/8159/glowtest6qg.jpg

tell me what ya think... :smug:

evil-98

30-09-2005, 11:12 AM

looks good everyone, good to see new people coming in.

i think i need to fix some stuff, first figure out what i need mesh wise for the model to deform correctly second how to acctually rig the model, third UVW mapping...

as of now, im kinda stuff besides tweaking the model.. lol but its pretty fun

smokinpixels

30-09-2005, 11:44 AM

havent modeled in a while and this is the first time modelin low poly..so here b........ theman man.

evil-98

30-09-2005, 11:45 AM

haha that was fast. looks pretty cool whats the count?

smokinpixels

30-09-2005, 11:49 AM

and a screen shizot...i need to work on some of the edge loop/topology goin on here , and some areas that r gona b a pain probly whn rigged...but i got an ok start...

nice work so far by everyone lookin dope...

Cyrenn

30-09-2005, 11:56 AM

That was pretty fast there : ) LOL! Good hussle the Man man looks like hes going to tax some Mega man

evil-98

30-09-2005, 12:01 PM

wow i was amazed at first when i was looking at your counts, then i saw it was counting by polys lol... whats the count by tris?

kinda boxy to me dont ya think?

smokinpixels

30-09-2005, 12:20 PM

evil- tris 4630

i gues he has boxy shoulders and waist but the man_man is made of advanced metals unknown to megaman. so this makes him kicass.
and his arms and such are made out cylinders so he has equal roundnes.
i am stil wokrin on him..thanks for the coments guys.

lowlevel

30-09-2005, 12:37 PM

i see you pumped that out real quick there smokin....looks pretty good, i like the fact that his suitcase can throw what seems to be missile launchers on'em, the only thing i see which you've probly already know would be the shoulder hinge and the legs....your gonna be seeing some stretching around the edges of those areas guaranteed....and also it seems like The man-man might also be limited in his movement where the legs seems too short, but all-in-all he's coming along well keep at it

smokinpixels

30-09-2005, 10:31 PM

ey thnx for the words lowlevel...yes ther r some areas that r gona b a problem...but he is only supposed to be posed in an attack position, if i ever wanted to animate him id probly remodel him, but i want to focus on completin this whole project. i cant wait to rig this badboy and start unwrappin him cuz he needs wicked texture work.

aight everybody i wana see some more of ur works, it seems this contest is gona yield some cool bots. keep up the good work......

.....here is a test of my rig so far..using max bones i normally prefer da biped but since i can rig in maya i figure i needs to know max bones...its all stil subject to change, i especially need to work on the areas that have strange deformations.

lowlevel

01-10-2005, 06:31 AM

this is a rigg test to showcase a few deformation in the mesh, i put him in a dunking pose to put him in a kinda extreme pose...as you can see theres deformaty in the right arm, slightly in the mouth and the back of the right leg, and alittle bit in the thumbs....but all-in-all it came out pretty good...if ya got anymore comments please let me know
:wave: :max:

http://img281.imageshack.us/img281/9679/thebiomandunk9ou.jpg

evil-98

01-10-2005, 09:19 PM

wow you guys are fast. i have no idea were to start with this riggin thing.

Zcubed

01-10-2005, 10:49 PM

Wow, nice to see so many entries!

Lowlevel ~ I like your design a lot, cool artistic direction. The chest cannon is a nice way of avoiding the all too common arm-gun. I think you've still got a couple of areas that could use some attention though. The hands shouldn't look as boxy as they do, considering we have 5000 triangles to work with. If you're running tight on polys, pull some out of the shins or the wiring running to his head.

Evil ~ Very nice, still jealous of your chest-piece :lame:.Dunno about the new hair, I think I liked the Zero-esque ponytail more. Also, I don't think you're going to have a fun time getting his knees to bend. They seem like they're locked into his leg armor.

Klan ~ Good start, I like the shape of the helmet.

SmokinPixels ~ Woah! Concept to rigged model in a couple of days! Very fast work, maybe even too fast. I think you need to spend a little more time on him before you call the modeling finished. Lowlevel's crits on the shoulders and legs seem to be dead on. Even if you're not planning to do much animation, the design just doesn't seem practical. Fixing up those areas will aid in deformation and add to the believability of your design.

I am low on free time this weekend, but I'll do my best to finish the modeling so I can get on with unwrapping and all that fun stuff. :xx:

EDIT~ Tadaaa!

http://img288.imageshack.us/img288/1111/tempest2tm.jpg

Reworked the gloves completely, added some detail to the shoulders and face, and put those snazzy wings on the boots. Oh yeah, and I think I've named him "Tempest Man". Sitting at 2800 triangles right now, I'm not sure where I'm going to add 2200 more. :crazy:

smokinpixels

02-10-2005, 01:39 AM

Yo, z. that is lookin awesome. extra tris left, maybe give him some rocket pack or some kinda propulsion device.just an idea none the less its lookin pro.
and the color scheme i dont kno if its permanent but im digging it.

Thanks for the critiques, yes my bot does need some more work. im thinkin of givin him a makeover with some added megaman type elements (he is lookin rather like ashley woods popbot) my bad.

can someone explain why in lowpoly modeling the tri count is what matters i dont knowa thing about game models except the basics. thnx.

keep up the good work guys.

lowlevel

02-10-2005, 01:54 AM

hey thanx for the crit Z cubed i will definitely get to work on the hands...cause yeah i am kinda strapped for poly's :dunno: but i am going to fix the hands abit. and yeah glad you saw i went with a different approach....i didnt want to jump into the whole arm cannon thing, which i could've, but i decided to go different. On your model i love the hands...thats actually the first thing that caught my eye, you say you have 2800 tris now....well what i would do is maybe give your character that old pattented jewel crest on his chest, also pull out some verts on the tip of the boots to give it that mega boot look....heres what i mean:

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/7246/bootshow1kp.jpg

and maybe a belt, and you can come up with a few nice design for a belt...but if your concept didnt call for a belt then nevermind :haha: so far so good keep at it :max:

Zcubed

02-10-2005, 02:23 AM

Ah, I knew the boots were lacking something! You're exactly right, Lowlevel, thanks for the reminder. The hands were quite tough, but I did some sleuthing. I've been trying out all of the major animation packages through their demo versions (Gmax, Maya PLE, etc.) as I figured it would be good to learn an interface so that I'll be ready once I decide to invest in an animation suite. Anyways, one of the primitives in XSI Mod Tool is a basic character. I just worked next to the hand and tried to copy it as best as I could. Then I just changed the proportions to match my character and welded it on. Kinda like using reference images, but in three dimensions. :haha:

SmokinPixels, game engines work in triangles. They break down all faces into the simplest kind, which = :faces:. I'm not sure why it is, probably just for optimization purposes. All you need to know is that realtime models are measured in tris. :lame:

evil-98

02-10-2005, 09:53 AM

im still playing with the hair and head alittle, and still thinking of how to start the rigging.

tempest man lol how so?

~X~

02-10-2005, 10:10 PM

personally i thought it looed beter when it was the yelow ponnytail look, bu that is just my opinion.

~X~

klan

03-10-2005, 12:59 AM

Hello everybody! time for an update.
but first some comments

Zcubed-looking good, nice clean mesh, love the hands
Smokin- you pull that out pretty fast,looking good though
lowlevel- your rigging looks pretty good so far, cant wait to se him textured
evil-98- im with ~x~ im for the yellow ponytail look too
keep up the good work guys :smug:
Slam Man's wire1 (http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b156/ragnorok86x/Slamman_wip_upper2_wire.jpg)
Slam Man's wire2 (http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b156/ragnorok86x/Slamman_wip_upper2_wire2.jpg)

Dave_UK

03-10-2005, 04:00 AM

Very nice work people looking forward to see more updates :)

Here is my concept, as I was sketching ideas I forgot the character was suppose to be a bad guy so am gonna make few changes to make him look bit more evil.

I call him 'Wizzo Man'. Sounds a bit cheesy i know :o His powers are made of cosmic energy which are greatly enhanced by his staff, enabling him to fire energy beams, create shields and portals for him to escape.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v33/Ghostface/frontconcept.jpg

I've been watching too much yu-gi-oh and got my idea from the show hence the design :o

lowlevel

03-10-2005, 04:35 AM

klan: looking nice klan, what settings did you use to make your render appear flat, or have that haze look?

Dave_uk: yeah i saw your concept and the first thing i thought of was dark magician from yu-gi-oh lol, all jokes aside i cant wait to see wizzo man modeled

nosaj462

03-10-2005, 06:08 AM

OK finally i got this damn concept done.. Texas Chainsaw man is pure carnage. He lays waste to all that dare stand in his way. His attack is obviously his beefy saw in which he cuts down his enemies with ease. On his back is a button that when pushed enters him into a state of berserk gorefest.

Cyrenn

03-10-2005, 06:41 AM

Great job everyone, finally got the chance to post up and see what everyone is doing, Everything is looking awsome: ) Nice work Klan , Evil and everyone else.

SIck concept Nos thats a mean looking bot, he should push the level of compitition up a notch : ) Looking forward to seeing him come into play: ) with the rest: )

Nice work Dave - Wizzo Man, Hes got to look like Fred Savage in some way : )

Zcubed

03-10-2005, 07:26 AM

Woah, this thing is really taking off.

Dave ~ Nice concept. I don't watch Yugi-Oh, but your character is looking like he'd be right at home in a Megaman game. :smug:

Klan ~ Thanks for the comment. I really like the direction that you're going in with Slam Man. His arms are looking a little too much like cylinders, though. He won't be able to slam anyone if he can't bend his arms :crazy:. Some parts seem to have uneeded polys, but no need to worry about that until you've hit 5,000 tris.

Nosja ~ Wow! I think your concept is my favorite so far; not just because it's well drawn either. Personally, I would scrap the ****** apron, but go with what you like. :smug:

Evil ~ A tempest is defined as "a violent wind". Seeing as my guy will be using the air to attack, it seemed to fit well enough. There are probably tons of better names out there, but I can't think of any. :lame:

Sorry to flood the thread with images, but I think I'm just about done.

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/8061/tempest29ai.jpg

Worked on the face, butt, chest, and boots. I also fixed the proportions, as people were telling me that he looked quite short. I think I'm going to call the modeling finished, unless you guys see something wrong. Hit me with all your crits and comments, as I probably won't be able to change anything once I move on to texturing.

nosaj462

03-10-2005, 07:36 AM

Ok here he is. LOL i used up every tri i was alloted... Kind of suxx though because if he doesnt deform right im gonna have to go in and add more geometry and find places to take it from. i did a test rig on his leg and it worked fine so hopefully all is well. Im about to do some renders here in a sec. Right now im playin around with Brazil.

evil-98

03-10-2005, 07:44 AM

nosaj462: wow looks really nice! im liking it matchs your concept perfectly.

lowlevel

03-10-2005, 08:17 AM

nosaj462: nice nosa .... i see you really thought out texax chainsaw man, sweet model :)

Zcubed: really came along way with your model Zcubed, i see you went with that chest jewel, or maybe it was already apart of your concept anyway :smug: , the only last things i see is the top part of the boot, not the shin area, but the top of where the foot would be, maybe pull a few verts up to round out that top portion, and secondly would be the mouth, it almost has an ape like feature, if you tried to pull down some edges on the top lip and pull up some from the bottom, aside from those 2 small things your model is nice :D

cyrenn: glad to see you back by the way

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