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qwed88

16-12-2005, 11:31 AM

Just saw King Kong, was wondering what everyone thought of it?

-I can honestly say I had'nt gotten caught up in a movie like that since I was around 8 years old.
Very fun movie.

-I've heard allot of complaints about Jack Black, but I thought he was good, he fit pretty well with all the other extreme characters in the movie

-That scene with the bugs was insane, I'm going to be itching for the next month.

-the fact that Kong did'nt make a dent/splat in the concrete when he fell kinda freaked me out but no big deal.

novoAlias

16-12-2005, 12:13 PM

It was made here and it premiered yesterday! so ill let you know when i see it, it seems pretty good.

Good think wetas around since dreamworks went bust <insert linky here but cbf>

Daniel

19-12-2005, 12:41 AM

I really liked it, you could see true emotion in Kong. Some scenes were so fun that I had a bg grin during the movie, and others were really sad and touching. It took real talent to elicit these emotions from the viewers and I would recommend it to anyone.

Ilkejav mk5

19-12-2005, 03:07 AM

the film may not be the best movie ever, but it,s probably the best film to demonstrate how much effort you can put in a single movie. PJ is a genius. I think this film is an instant classic. PJ just demonstrated that you can put loads of material in a movie that's just fun, maybe meaningless, but just fun... and he backed it with a deep array of emotions that really reached through to everyone even to the most sceptical viewers. Weta also demonstrated that it was still the leader in CG delivering a main character that is 100% believable througout the movie.

Voles

19-12-2005, 05:16 AM

I've never cried to a movie until last night.

was the best damn movie i've ever seen.

RickStefani

19-12-2005, 09:43 PM

That was one good movie. The bug part got me too. I do have one big thing that blew it for me because I could not get it out of my mind and it kinda tore me out of the moment for the end of the movie. THIS IS WINTER WITH FROZEN PONDS. How the hell was she in a skimpy outfit and not showing some major headlights and freezing to death. How could she climb a ladder bair skinned like that in freazing weather. Tow months ago I did climb the Empire state building with a jacket and it was not snowing. The wind was stong and my face was hurting because of the cold.

Josiah

21-12-2005, 05:37 AM

Agreed Rick. Also,she would have had her neck broken many times. When Kong was shaking her and running with her. But whatever...I still think it is one of the best films of all time!!!!!!! FIVE STARS FROM ME!!!

I loved it!!

Thank bug part had me sqealy though.. :D

Josiah

Freespace-3DT

22-12-2005, 05:01 AM

SPOILER WARNING

I just saw this movie at the cinema. First of all, hats off to Weta for setting the standard for the next few years. Peter Jackson is simply... superb. I mean, he directed four movies, and they're each in my top10. I swear, whatever he makes, ... don't expect anything less that gorgeous. He's the opposite of Uwe Boll, you could say.

King Kong ( Tore Kong :) ) is a hectic mix of character development ( for the first 60 minutes ) and two hours of dramatic action and heart wrenching scenes. Now, I rarely cry at movies, ( LotR really got to me, Sweet November at the end, Vanilla Sky at the end, What Dreams May Come... and that's it, as I recall ), but this had me literally weeping several times. My girlfriend was holding me so tight, crying aswell, so it wasn't a big deal ( the whole cinema audience was pretty much doing it too... so it's cool really :D ).

Moving on, certain scenes left my jaw dropped. Now this never happened to me, not even at LotR. After the first time the dinousaurs appeared and the whole stampede, I noticed my mouth hanging open. The battles with the t-rexes had a similar effect. But the bug scene, it simply shocked me to a level I didn't believe possible. Also the scene where they meet the "locals" and the whole head-bashing scene, same shocking feel. I had no ideea a movie can transfer such emotions into me.

It all ended quite sudden. And I hoped Kong would fall over Carl. Damnit.

qwed88

22-12-2005, 05:16 AM

I agree completely Freespace, sad that it's not doing as well as they thought it would.
I saw The Chronicles of Narnia, I was'nt really that impressed, it was a decent movie, but not any where near Kong.

I had forgot to mention that stampede, I was thinking the whole time while watching that, how the hell did they even begin to plan all of that squence out, that was amazing.

RickStefani

22-12-2005, 05:16 AM

This was one of the first remakes that they did better than the first. The emotion in Kong was amazing. I did love the movie. I just hope though that Peter Jackson does not go the way of Spielberge and overdo the "Close Call" scenes. The CG and Weta did an awsome job.

PS, anyone notice by my typing. besides not being able to spell, that my "S" sticks.

Holo

22-12-2005, 06:46 PM

Very good Flick.

I havent been so touched since....god, i cant even remember.

The Movie made me feel like a kid again, one of the most entertaining, and fun movies EVER.

I dont remember the last time i had to hold myself in my seat during a movie,
especially during the last Killer blow during the "Big Fight" (those who have seen it know what im talking about :) )

and im soo happy they made Kong act like an actual Ape, I had a bad feeling they would have killed it by making him a more intelligent, human like character, but that was'nt the case at all. Incredibly well done.

Josiah

22-12-2005, 07:54 PM

And I hoped Kong would fall over Carl. Damnit.
Agreed ;P

Ilkejav mk5

23-12-2005, 12:40 AM

I have to go see it again... the end of the movie was ruined by the fact that I really REALLY had to go pee, but I didn't want to leave my seat... it ruined the end for me...

Freespace-3DT

04-01-2006, 08:43 PM

Damn, the bladder's gonna be the end for us all, eh Ilkejav? :)

Ilkejav mk5

04-01-2006, 10:16 PM

indeed... I'm still waiting for Kong to be off restriction so I can go see it for free... (I work at a cinema, so I can get free tickets, but only after they're off restriction)

Josiah

05-01-2006, 12:59 AM

free movies? What does restriction mean?

Josiah

Ilkejav mk5

05-01-2006, 04:23 AM

when a movie is on restriciton, it is either because it's really popular and the theatres are often full, so they don,t want employees to take seats that paying customers could have bought, or either the publisher company asked for the movie to be on restriction. When a movie is in restriction, no free tickets can be given to anybody until about two weeks after the release... King kong has an exceptionally long restiction period due to it's popularity... Basically, since I work at a cinema, I can just come to the box-office and ask for 2 tickets, and i'll get them for free... it's awesome... :haha:

Josiah

05-01-2006, 05:41 AM

dude that is awesome!!!!

So you like get ones for your friends and stuff? :smug:

Josiah

Ilkejav mk5

06-01-2006, 12:49 AM

yeah, or one for the girl that's coming with me...

Josiah

06-01-2006, 07:07 AM

Yippee :D

Josiah

Ilkejav mk5

06-01-2006, 07:55 AM

amen to that! :dance:

jayjayk89

06-01-2006, 08:07 AM

I didnt think king kong was that visually stunning...I mean, it was really nice when it was a close-up of his face but when it came to him picking up the girl and the girl touching him and stuff...It just looked so fake...and I think they did a really bad job when they redid the streets of the city and stuff and all the cars and people looked so fake...ugh...but other than them two things i thought it was an ok movie...pretty good amount of constant action throughout the whole movie...

Ilkejav mk5

06-01-2006, 10:46 AM

well, here's the best example of someone who can't appreciate all the effort that was put into this movie... if it wasn't for PJ and Weta, we'd have a guy in a suit, which is about what any other group in the world could produce compared to Weta's capabilities... for shame...

RickStefani

06-01-2006, 08:21 PM

I thought the CG was amazing but I also have to agree that there were quiet a few times that you could tell it was CG. I wish it was One Trex agains Kong, I hate it when a movie production house has the feeling that one is good but three is better. It was about the clash of the Kings. By having three against one it already showed that Kong was King and that was not the way the original was. Also the trex would have ripped up Kong about three times when he had his teeth around him. The Trex does not have arms for attack, just a powerful jaw with sharp teeth that have to go through other dinosaurs with plate armor or scales. The skin fur and bone would not have held up. Great movie none the less so I do not want anyone the hear mr wrong.

Josiah

06-01-2006, 09:40 PM

Ilkejav mk5

07-01-2006, 12:35 AM

Also the trex would have ripped up Kong about three times when he had his teeth around him. The Trex does not have arms for attack, just a powerful jaw with sharp teeth that have to go through other dinosaurs with plate armor or scales. The skin fur and bone would not have held up.

Well, studies show that the T-Rex was too heavy and clumsy to be a real hunter like let's say a velociraptor. instead, scientist say that the most probable way the T-Rex aquired it's food, was by killing already injured or sick dinosaurs, or, like the lion, by stealing other predator's catches. So the jaw of the Trex was probably not meant for fighting intensively like shown in Kong...

Also, remember that it's a Fantasy movie with dinosaurs and giant gorillas... so PJ can allow himself about anything and i'd still be happy as long as it is still fun to watch...

qwed88

07-01-2006, 05:07 AM

Don't get to caught up over analyzing the movie, I think it's better just to let yourself be drawn into it and forget about reality for awhile.

Ilkejav mk5

07-01-2006, 09:57 AM

that was my point basically...

Josiah

08-01-2006, 01:13 AM

Don't get to caught up over analyzing the movie, I think it's better just to let yourself be drawn into it and forget about reality for awhile.
Very well put.....:)

Josiah

inveni0

12-01-2006, 10:56 PM

I have to agree that the visuals were pretty bad when the shot was from a distance (50 yards +), but the closer the shot the more incredible it was. I kept thinking "How the hell did they animate his face?" There must have been a zillion morph targets and some insane rigging. Also, the dinosaur fight was the coolest thing I've ever seen in film. ESECIALLY when he rips the dino's tongue out with his teeth and then in the end cracks the jaw open and uses the "maxilla" to crush the trex's brain. Then he's all like, "yeah, I'm the badest mother epher around!" It was freak'n sweet.

Jack Black was a bit cheesy in parts, but his character kinda required that (besides, he's not much cheesier than a grown woman falling in love with an ape). I had to wonder though...how did Jack Driscoll like being sloppy seconds?

Overall, the effects in this movie were the best I've ever seen....ever. Except for those few shots from afar, Kong is the closest to photo-real film has ever been.

Freespace-3DT

14-01-2006, 07:58 PM

have to agree that the visuals were pretty bad when the shot was from a distance (50 yards +),

What do you mean?

inveni0

15-01-2006, 11:45 PM

Kong's full body shots, basically.

Josiah

16-01-2006, 12:59 AM

Kong's full body shots, basically.
I just can't comprehend that staement............not at all............. :???:

Josiah

qwed88

16-01-2006, 02:41 AM

Kong's full body shots, basically.

What?, huh?......I don't get it?!

inveni0

16-01-2006, 03:35 AM

He just doesn't blend with the environment. You can see the screen job, easily. However, I don't see any way to do it better than they did. He is still photo real, but the environment composite is crumby. It's that way on every movie.

Ilkejav mk5

16-01-2006, 03:58 AM

the visuals set the standard for years to come, so I can't complain on any details that seemed fake (i've seen a few).

On another level I think this movie turned out to be outstanding compared to what peter jackson did with LOTR. if you might imagine, PJ had 9 hours to translate a 1000 pages book with LOTR, while he had 3 hours to translate 1.5 hours of movie (Kong1933) and he still pulled off an amazingly fun (if not a little shallow), but still very entertaining movie...

Kong doesn't compare to LOTR as a movie (except for the VFX), but if you take into consideration the odds that were stacked against him (a non-speaking main character, rather shallow storyline and dialogs of the original Kong), it's amazing what he achieved.

qwed88

16-01-2006, 05:20 AM

"(if not a little shallow)", you know, everyone seems to be making statements like this about PJ's King Kong, as if the original was sooo much better story wise, go back and watch the original and then compare, PJ's perfected it.
Yes theres some flaws, but I would say it's a better movie all around than the original

Ilkejav mk5

16-01-2006, 05:31 AM

if you'd have read more carefully, you would have found out that PJ's movie is a little shallow because the old kong movie was shallow too. PJ's movie is undoubtedly better by a hundredfold.

now, before anyone else comments on my coment about kong being shallow, I have to say that that's not necessarily a bad thing, the movie is interesting, beautiful, and entertaining, even though the storyline is rather linear... this is the movie's strenghts.

qwed88

16-01-2006, 06:14 AM

Chill man it was'nt ment to be an attack I was refering to statements others had made about the film, (sorry a little missunderstanding)

Josiah

16-01-2006, 06:15 AM

Amen mk5 :)

Josiah

Ilkejav mk5

16-01-2006, 09:50 AM

Chill man it was'nt ment to be an attack I was refering to statements others had made about the film, (sorry a little missunderstanding)

lol, it's okay, I was a bit edgy at the moment...

qwed88

16-01-2006, 12:11 PM

no prob

Freespace-3DT

17-01-2006, 08:47 PM

( If forums were games:
- pathetic difficulty: no fighting amongst users; your weapons do maximum damage;
- easy difficulty: rare fighting amongst users, but they are solved very fast by themselves; your weapons do high damage;
- normal difficulty: often fighting amongst users, a moderator needs to solve it; your weapons do normal damage;
- hard difficulty: constant fighting amongst users, several moderators barely manage to solve them, banning is a greatly used option; your weapons do low damage;
- apocalyptic difficulty: users hack each other steal the moderators' ids to wreak havok over the forums; your weapons do no damage to enemies, but they do damage to yourself; )

I guess we're on Easy Difficulty, eh? :)

Ilkejav mk5

17-01-2006, 10:14 PM

what was that all about? you WANT us to fight? :!!!:

Josiah

17-01-2006, 10:40 PM

- apocalyptic difficulty: users hack each other steal the moderators' ids to wreak havok over the forums; your weapons do no damage to enemies, but they do damage to yourself; )

I guess we're on Easy Difficulty, eh? :)
HAHAHAHA lol man. You always make me laugh.

what was that all about? you WANT us to fight? :!!!:

And Shut up Mk5!! Your dumb! And never understand anything. Gosh, what I would give for a rocket-launcher that shot exploding chainsaws..........:D

(how was that Freespace? Maybe a Nomal setting, or was that still an easy? ;P)

Josiah

Ilkejav mk5

18-01-2006, 12:00 AM

no, YOU shut up, and I hope your exploding chainsaws run out of gas... :grr:

Freespace-3DT

18-01-2006, 01:28 AM

Regarding the difficulties... it was meant as a joke to ease the tensions of finished wars, of course; well, I'll stop doing these things, whatever; but it seems that the difficulty has indeed been raised a bit;
Josiah, maybe you were a little bit too rough there, hence Mk5's response;

King Kong would definetely have a say in this if he was still alive... Right? ( wink, wink ... ) -- trying to get back on topic --

Ilkejav mk5

18-01-2006, 03:17 AM

Yeah I'd bet he'd grab you by the ankle and yell:" GRAOOOR! ROAR, GRWWRR!! Agrrr RUUGRRR!!! RHUUUHHHRRR!!!" which means, in gorrilish (the language of gorrillas): "shut up of i'll rip you toes off and then shove 'em down you throat until you choke!"

R.Kamal

15-06-2006, 10:28 AM

Very good Flick.

I havent been so touched since....god, i cant even remember.

The Movie made me feel like a kid again, one of the most entertaining, and fun movies EVER.

well,i missed this movie on theatres.recently i get to watch it on dvd.my god!one of the best movie i have seen in the recent times.and the performances by Jack Black, Adrien Brody...simply wonderful.i enjoyed this film...

Glottis

15-06-2006, 06:00 PM

Me and my GF actually fast-forwarded through most of the He-Look-How-Good-A-CG-I-MADE scenes (a.k.a. "action" scenes)

Josiah

15-06-2006, 08:35 PM

Me and my GF actually fast-forwarded through most of the He-Look-How-Good-A-CG-I-MADE scenes (a.k.a. "action" scenes)
huh?

Josiah

Ilkejav mk5

15-06-2006, 09:07 PM

I mean, saying that in a CG forum is anything short of blasphemy.

Josiah

15-06-2006, 11:17 PM

I am actually thinking of starting a thread where we vote people like this out of threedy forever......

Josiah

Glottis

21-06-2006, 06:18 PM

Josiah

21-06-2006, 08:11 PM

lol.
I think that there was more of the "king kong killing t-rexes" rather than "runny from them"

Josiah

inveni0

21-06-2006, 09:07 PM

Lol!

came kinda wrong out there.. :)

I´m just saying that ,ok watching cool CG is fun... watching a CG gorrilla running from a T-rex is fun watching a CG Gorilla running from a T-rex for 20 minutes straight get´s boring... and watching a movie with story amount of a 1 and a half hour movie, stretched into a three hour movie, ´cause they just *had* to show more of the Gorrilla running from a T-rex for the most part of it, is not a good movie.

I never said it wasn´t a cool movie though

so ban me if you must josiah :P

Watching a T-Rex attack King Kong: 5 minutes.
Watching King Kong fight a T-Rex, all the while protecting his love: 10 minutes.
Seeing King Kong tower above a fallen T-Rex after victoriously shoving the dino's jaw bone into its brain: Priceless.

I wouldn't cut a moment of that scene, thank you very much.