Speed Painting Challenge no. 45.

[waheed nasir]

hi there friends... :wave:. here, i announce the 45th Speed Painting Challenge, starts today and ends on the 17th of May, 2006, wednesday.

topic: "Guitar". paint any kind that u like to...be it, spanish/flamenco, electric, bass or rythm/lead. its good to paint a combination, a guitar with its amplifier, or u can even paint a player playing a guitar (not a group/band)...decision is all yours. its the treatment that counts...:).
quite a few members wanted this as our topic since long. we will be having choices as before in the next one...:).

u can post your artwork till the 17th of May. after that, voting time.

all the best.... :wave:.

Important: a person is allowed to post 2 pieces if one wants to and has to mention which entry is the final one. more than 2 wont be considered votable.

:).

[capitan_popo]

nassir one question can it be a known guitarist playing a guitar? (please)

[waheed nasir]

hi captain_popo...:). if u are going to include a player, then that can be anyone, u can even paint yourself playing a guitar...:). just anybody, whoever u like.

all the best.

[ximahmoud]

ok waheed.. it's a guitar then..ok, i hope this time i will have any comment on my entry . my dragon had one comment.. i don know why.. is it that bad..any way.. let's do the guitar and forget about dragons..

[KamiD]

Guitar hmm.

I dont know. My fire started burning with Dragons. Guess its in my Blood :P
But I seriously need motivation for my portfolio.

Will give this a try (no creative ideas in my mind thoughT_T)

[Fibre Optix]

Here is mine, nothing spectacular. Wacom + Macromedia Flash (I actualy like drawing in it) + 40 min = this....

[Warin-3DT]

Guitar...this time? Its nice to have something change!

Nice work+good start Fibre Optix..he looks Rock!


Cheers,
Warin

[PsyPuff]

Nice topic! it seems like the silence after the storm :) i'll do my best!
just one question: is it a problem if i will upload more than 2 pictures and then choose my favourite for voting? (why only 2? let the people be creative!)

[KamiD]

Fibre Optix

NICE STYLE

I'm still at a loss.... no ideas for a guitar

[Rusted]

though it's a Quick work, (30 minsin Photoshop with mouse) but some of you may find some elements to enjoy in it.....

http://www.geocities.com/shahan_art/Hardbone_Heavy_Ankle.jpg
See ya around :smug:

[Illegal]

i did this in school(not art klass just normal lesson :P) some time ago
its kinda abstract so there is no hand and the strings are gone too :P.
i have it in sketchbook and plz comment my skeches im a n00b :D
took 30 mins

[Rusted]

ok waheed.. it's a guitar then..ok, i hope this time i will have any comment on my entry . my dragon had one comment.. i don know why.. is it that bad..any way.. let's do the guitar and forget about dragons..
No Point to be discouraged Xim, Your Dragon (Yellowish) was the Best By it's Styling but there were too many this thime thats why people did'nt notice that much.But it was great man...!!!! :dance:

[ximahmoud]

thanx rusted.. it's very nice to read comments on your work .. it makes find what's right and what's wrong.. in another meaning, it makes you see what you dont see with your own eyes throw the others eyes.. any way .. very nice style you have here for the guitar.. i will wait for your next entry..

[Fibre Optix]

Very Cool rusted, nice feel.

Btw. Illeagal I cant see your pic.

*EDIT. Nevermind, I see it now. Very good. Reminds me of the lead guitarist form Sound Garden ..... or did he play the Bass????/ Hmmmmm. nice texture.

[waheed nasir]

interesting entries...:).

psypuff...sure, be creative and make as many as u want, but pls post 2 of your good ones and do let us know which one is the final/votable entry. generaly speaking, one piece per person is allowed for challenges, even some friends here are in favor of just one entry, but i think 2 are fine. more than that creates confusions. and its always good to have some rules set for challenges. sure to see your pieces soon...:).

illegal, how about scanning it and working over it using some painting software, coz it has to be in a digital form...:). im sure it'll look really good.

all the best to everyone...:).

[Illegal]

is it just fibre optix that cant see my entry or everyone?

[waheed nasir]

hi again illegal. its there, i see it and so does fibre optix...read his comment. so no worries...:). but pls just make it in digital form thru any of the painting softwares. pure tradional work doesnt really fit in the Speed painting challenge. u can even go thru the Rules.

[XYZ]

Here is mine, nothing spectacular. Wacom + Macromedia Flash (I actualy like drawing in it) + 40 min = this....

good drawing ! and,
wow, can you use a wacom with flash,, great I didnt know that, I love to draw in flash, more than any other software. some day I'll buy one of those, when I really need it.


Didn't your computer get slow with all those lines in flash ?? ?

[Fibre Optix]

Didn't your computer get slow with all those lines in flash ?? ?

No not at all.

[XYZ]

a quick one with flash :) , It is not a big deal, just to move the mouse for a while. 20 mins +-

[Karsten]

Hi, great entries so far.
That´s a crispy linedrawing of that rollin´guy, fibre optix. I like that clear flash appoach. And I like this very light drawing too, Xyz.

For my pic I used an inked pencil-drawing as basic and switched then to photoshop with some colour-tones und motionblur. Time: under 1h. You can definitly see that, but hey, its a speedpainting session.

[Rico]

nich so bescheiden karsten, that's really amazing. very interesting style with cool colors. u really have a great talent in painting, the colors, the composition, the perspective, everything is top notch! very cool.

wo hast du studiert wenn ich fragen darf?

[Fibre Optix]

KARSTEN: Holy crap that is a great illustration. Great style. Great use of colours as well , not over bearing but yet the image is super dynamic and gives off a cool vibe. Nicely done.

[XYZ]

again Karsten, great painting, I love the shadows, and the expression in the face..

[PsyPuff]

That's A-W-S-O-M-E man!!!
really great one, nice depth of field but youve got strange lights on her face?!

[Rusted]

Nice One karsten,....!

[Grant]

:dance:

[bb0x]

psypuff i dont thikn that those white lines thick lines is light...

more like markings on her face...maybe make-up?

[Karsten]

bb0x: You´re the man! This are white stripes of a strange Make-up. You now, this guitar playing ladies these days, they are doing strange things ...

XYZ, Rusted, FibreOptix, PsyPuff: Thanks, for Your nice statements.
It´s great to see that this image is working for You.

Rico: Thanks for compliments. I studied Fine Art at Burg Giebichenstein, Hochschule für Kunst und Design in Halle and at the art department of Ohio University.
Die Burg hat ein recht gutes Angebot um bildnerische Basics zu vermitteln, ist eine große Hochschule mit vielen Fachrichtungen und bietet Studenten die höchste Regelstudienzeit für Kunst in Deutschland (7 Jahre).

Grant: Cool, thats a powerfull customer.

[waheed nasir]

good stuff guys. thats a cool one karsten...:).

[waheed nasir]

hello friends...just thought to share mine as well...:). painted this sometime back and as it goes with the topic its here. its a speed painting, took about
30 mins to finish. painted from life.

Not Votable.

:).

[DerekSc]

Wow, that's cool. It's particularly effective if you take a step or two back from your monitor. Nice job Waheed, wish I could do that.

[waheed nasir]

thank u dereksc...im glad...:). yes, its painted in an impressionistic manner...so better viewed from some distance of about 4 to 5 ft.

:).

[visuelle]

my two cents...

a beautiful PRS guitar and a beautiful girl...
what else could you ask for? :)

tried a new color palette.
3h photoshop. based upon a magazine cover.

waheed: VERY nice! like the lose painting!
Karsten: looks very good. nice linework.
(i wish you would have featured the guitar a little
bit more. because of the odd angle you can't see it.)
gruesse an einen fellow Hallenser! and a fellow
ohio resident!

[Rusted]

Hi, Everyone...! My Second and Last Entry (Votable)

Mr. Waheed, Hi, I used the same medium (Impressionism) in the remembering of a Guitarist I met.... :wave: , and Btw,yours is Very much of a Painting, your different style in CG Art is always a Guidance..!
Well for this One...
Time: around 1 Hour
Software: Artrage
Hardware: mouse
No ref used, Thanx
http://www.geocities.com/shahan_art/Guitarist02.jpg

[visuelle]

waheed: what image is on the 3dtotal front page(for the guitar topic)? i can't find it in here!

[Rico]

uhhhh visuelle, that girl make me go rrrrrrrrrr...... ;) good job

rusted, nice one, and an interesting choice of colours. i like it.

and waheed, i'm a big fan of your works. i like that impressionistic "no line art". could you explain about that technique somehow? i'm wondering how to achieve that look with digital means, as it looks it was painted traditional(especially those thick oil fake brushstrokes). really cool.

[waheed nasir]

thank u so much rusted and rico...:).
rico, i think its just because of the fine art bacground i think, i treat these kind of digital paintings just the way i do my real oils. there is no such techique but let me give u some of my points (like what i do): treatment is very spontaneous, no initial sketch, i just start directly with brush and color (even when i paint on real canvas), i dont go into details and just suggest things, give impressions. thats about it...:). one last thing is before going into this style, one must know how to draw well, though there is no drawing under it, but the knowledge of drawing helps thruout in suggesting things...:).

visuelle...that front page image of guitar (for speed painting challenge), is not an entry here, i made that for the frontpage alone when i announced the challenge, no entry was here at that time.

thank u folks...:).

[waheed nasir]

nice entries so far. i really like these varied styles...:). how people treat the subject in their own particular way is always fun to watch.

[mim]

Nice entries so far:dance:,but I hate mine here! :hmm:
have a look :cry: (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?t=40201&page=3)

[waheed nasir]

hello xatmo...:). looks nice, but pls do post a digital version of this, a raw pencil sketch (just scanned), doesnt fit in the Speed Painting Challenge. it has to be in digital form.
sketch...scan...and work on it in any of the painting softwares and then post.
this will look good after that im sure...:).

all the best.

[XATMO]

ok sorry :)

i deleted the file.


i hope to restart tomorrow.

if not it will be for the next challenge ;)

[Rico]

hello there, here's my entry for this one. i chose to do a comic style as i'd like to improve in that, so it was good to get some experience in.

photoshop, wacom, no ref, about 2 h

[mim]

Hey Rico, your comic style is coool just I think u need more work on foots n hands, btw angle of view n these dirty or grufity walls is so coool ;)
keep up good works all :)

[nucron]

hey, this is my shot at this one. I wanted to try something new, and I was partly inspired by some of the great "line art" style paintings I've seen so far in this challenge. I attempted to make this kind of abstract in a way, and left my guide line sketch in there as part of the drawing. sketching things like this is really different -- you really feel the "speed" in speed-paint. I might try to go for a sketchier style in future challenges, because it was a lot of fun. anyway, I hope you enjoy.


painter 8, 40 min.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y297/ronaldraven/guitarman-01-small.jpg

[Rico]

cool one nucron, there's music in the air right? XD

[nucron]

heh, thanks, Rico. yeah, there's rock flying around in there. I liked yours, too. that guy could be a new member of the Gorillaz :haha:

[art mekanik]

really like whats going on with the guitar theme everyone getting really artsy

Rusted- I like the black and white rendition you put up, reminds me alot of a mexican day of the dead (halloween)

Waheed- what can I say.....? awesome work love the brush strokes in the painting, I like the contrast in the painting.

Rico- LOVING the comic style, it always has a place in my heart :) really though feels like a Gorillaz charcter only meaner and tougher.

Ill be posting my soon i just sketched it on paper but i havent attempted anything in the digital world.

[rawwad]

Hi Waheed, friend :wave:

This is my first post here, very interesting minichallenge, I have question:
How long time we can spend on it?
And the winner really win 3D total CD?

[mim]

I update my wip, I hate it! (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?t=40201&page=4)
...
n welcome rawwad! :smug:

[waheed nasir]

Hi Waheed, friend :wave:

This is my first post here, very interesting minichallenge, I have question:
How long time we can spend on it?
And the winner really win 3D total CD?

hello there rawwad...nice to see u here...:).
as its a speed painting challenge, its better if u paint as quickly as possible...though there is no such rule, but i personaly think, 30 t0 45 mins time, per artwork, is okay...:).
and yes, winner do get a 3dtotal CD...:).

waiting for your painting...all the best... :wave:.

thank u art mekanik for the appreciation...:).

[art mekanik]

sooo when i was commenting on rusted and his black and white drawing i thought about the day of the dead or halloween then i thought skeleton then of course guitar then a combination of both soooo sorry for being cliche but here it is ....took 3 hours total including sketching out the idea.... photoshop and painter..using an intous 3.http://www.tallguystudios.com/sketchbook/images/skeleton_guitar.jpg

[Rusted]

Rico : That Music-Meniac looks great...Envirnment is horriffying
Nucron : Nice Style and Colors
Art Mekanik : Well Alfred, I am Glad u liked my Sketch, and your entry is Quite different and Scary... (and large-sized too) :)
Lets see What else is coming this Way..

[Rusted]

and I think, Alfred, this is the first Only Guitar in this chellenge without a Living Creature, ('cuz xyz made a cat...and Grant made a Green Monster(nice)...and the rest made someone holding it... heheheh but its Hardly a realistic guitar) have u seen the movie "from dusk till dawn"? there was a Vampire band, guitarist was playing guitar made of Human body Organs in the movie, was my inspired idea for the second entry but I changed my mind then... :)

[Glottis]

Ok, if my attempt to compete in this challenge prooves futile again, I´m gonna do the crying-in-the-fetus-position all over again! :P


I was listening to Iron Maiden whilst doing this pic (my apologies to mr. Adrian Smith for not drawing him :P) but here ya´ll go:

Photoshop 5.5 + a Trust Wacom tablet

time: 38 minutes

[rawwad]

Sci-fi guy with hi-tech guitar :smug:

1h 30min, photoshop + genius tablet

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/3633/guitar0mt.jpg

[Lemmy]

Here is the first of, hopefully, many entries to come. 2:15 hrs, photoshop cs, and an intuos 3

[cabrito]

This is my first time doing a challenge. I spent 25 minutes in photoshop.
I'll probably post another one next week.

[ximahmoud]

great entries everyone.. specially the last few ones, this is my first one.. done in painter ix, some refining in photoshop cs, ref., about 2 hours may be a few minutes more..may be i will do another one if i had the time..

[art mekanik]

its actually alfredo..... rusted :)

[Lemmy]

quick question. How can I can I get my image size larger? I tweaked it till it was as large as it would let me download, but it looks pale in comparison to the rest. any tips would be greatly appreciated. thanks, Lems

[Rusted]

Oh Sorry Alfredo. :).......!
btw Oh wow Great Entries ... Lemmy.. Open your image in Photoshop=>Image=>Image Size=> Resolution=> (Change it such as 100 or 150 to 250 etc, ) u'll see image will be larger... but when you save it in Jpeg format, a Pop window apears that says image quality... Enter 4, and save it.it won't get Heavy in File size but the image size will become Larger....btw Nice work (focal loss)
Ximahmoud: Very good (but only if you'd cover those White dots it'd look more Artistic, but thats Only my opinion ) it's Good
Rawwad: man I love this Entry of yours... I just love the style/ :D

[Lemmy]

Thanks Rusted, that was exactly what I was looking for. And, I'm diggin that impressionistic piece, great flow and colors.

[HammerCH22]

About 3hrs Adobe Photoshop. Didn't quite get done with it but already going a little long. His arms, shoulders and guitar look skewed and the guitar must be made of rubber, and not have strings but this is the best I could do in 3 hours. Oh well...

[Fibre Optix]

excellent stuff here

[mim]

Exxxcellent! ;)

[Sicksurfer]

This is vector art and I dunno if it qualifies as a painting as such. This took an hour and it is a Teddy and a Guitar and some stuff. :D :D :D

[Lighter]

Here's my entry

Done in painter in about 2 hours total. I was dissatisfied with the original sketches for the first hour until I nailed something I kinda liked. :o

[haojz]

awesome pictures.

[capitan_popo]

hey people,
this is my entry for this challange, its a cartoon of Dimebag Darrell, my guitar idol since I was a kid, hope you like it :dance:

Edit: forgot to puta tat it took bout 5 to 6 hourts in photoshhop witha mouse

[mim]

good one, Sicksurfer ;)
I like style of, like funny G-cards! :D

[initiative]

hellol, this is my entry, i took the reference from Juan Gris work HARLIKIN WITH GUITAR, hope you like it

Painting TIme: 3.50 hrs
Software Used: Photoshop CS
Other. Wacom tablet intuos

[Jessie_Rivers]

Hello to all of you...:). I am new here and this is my first entry for the challenge.

[Jessie_Rivers]

Hi again, my second entry...:).

[waheed nasir]

*Extended*

hello there friends...:). this is to let u know, that u got one more day to post your artworks. it'll be closed at this hour tomorrow.

see ya soon...:).

[waheed nasir]

VOTING TIME.

hi there folks...its voting time now. pls dont submit any more paintings...:).

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options/choices for the next challenge are:
.Ninja.
.Beast.
.Vampire.

[Rico]

clab hands to all entries.

1. Karsten
2. Rawwad
3. Lemmy

Choice for next challenge : NINJAJAJAJA!!!!!11 ;)

[DerekSc]

Nice job all, will try to participate in the next one.
Votes:

1st - rawwad
2nd - Karsten
3rd - HammerCH22

Next challenge preference: Vampire.

[Jessie_Rivers]

Hi

[Jessie_Rivers]

Hi, again. I like all artworks present here, but I have that to vote for 3 artworks. This is my choice.
1st - Waheed Nasir
2nd - Rusted
3rd - XYZ

Thank you

Jessie Rivers
Independent Republic of Mordor
http://www.myimagehub.com/files/2581/Bandera%20de%20Mordor.jpg

[mim]

:wall: :wall: :wall: (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?t=40201&page=4)!




:cry:

[DerekSc]

Hi Jessie,
Unfortunately since Waheed is a moderator, his paintings are non-entries (even though they are always really good). Please go back and hit the edit button on your post and change your votes. Don't forget to add which topic you'd like to paint next time from the three choices given. Btw, loved all the colour on your pictures, looking forward to seeing what you'll bring to the next challenges (all of which are pretty dark topics).

[HammerCH22]

Thanks for the vote DerekSc...
Next topic of vampire would be my vote as well.

My votes:
1- Lemmy
2- Karsten
3- Ximahmoud

Great job everyone, look forward to the next one.

[Lemmy]

These are all sick. I can't wait to see all the artwork for the next one. Ninjas baby! (hint hint) Good luck

1. Karsten
2. Ximahmoud
3. Rusted

[Jorel]

Nice work everyone!! My first post is a VOTE!!!! Woohoo!!! THE POWER!!!!! lol
Hope I have time for the next one. (Ninja?)

1st: Lemmy
2nd: Rusted
3rd: Rawwad

Good Luck All!!

[ximahmoud]

great work all of you guys.. well done indeed... my vote for the next one is vampire.. and for this one:

1st: karsten #21... perfect, i like this style..and i love that girl, reminds me of the Guilty Gear girl.. i was going to draw her.. but when i saw yours.. i went for another one..it would've be the same but with a different pose ;)
2nd: lemmy.. well done
3rd: jessie_rivers#73...i love this kind of art..great work

HM: RAWWAD, HAMMERCH22, INITIATIVE..

[mim]

I loose this one too! :cry: *Hate, hate, hate it!* (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?t=40201&page=3) :cry: :cry:

0.goodworksfromall #0-75!
1.Karsten #21
2.Lemmy #57
3.Sicksurfer #67
T.Vampire

[Rusted]

It's always Tough to choose only three.......

1st Nucron: Was like Proffessional...
2nd Karstan: Simply Nice Work
3rd Grant: Cartoons are not Simple.... Thats a Nice Character.. and ofcourse the colors, I've seen Such thing in my dreams many times.

Honorabales: Rawwad (Great style but Right arm of the Guitarist was a bit Shorter) FiberOptix and Xim

Next topic: Vampires

[PsyPuff]

Hi guys, sorry for not making any entries this week (a lot of final exams!!!) so at least i'll vote:

1. karsten
2. lemmy
3. fibre optix

The options for the next week topic seems to be pretty poor (don't offend). i thought on something like vehicles but if i need to choose from that list so ninja will be it.

great entries everyone! :)

[capitan_popo]

ok here are my votes:

first Nucron: love the style, and the red line in the backgives it great touch
secod Ximahmoud: Like the style as well, and it reminds me of the beatles
Third Rawwad: love the futuristic style, looks like something that Steve Vai would use in for his album art
Edit: forgot, my vote for the next chalange is vampires!!! :evil:

[Jessie_Rivers]

Hi!
Thank you DerekSc for your words about my artworks. Btw I am new in this forum and I ignore a lot of things. At another forum where I belong, the challenge director is voted. But I respect the rules of this forum. Excuse me.
My votes:
1.- Rusted
2.- Lighter
3.- XYZ

For the next challenge I want Vampires! My favorite is NOSFERATU of Murnau, a great film.
Thanks
Jessie Rivers
Independent Republic of Mordor
http://www.myimagehub.com/files/2581/Bandera%20de%20Mordor.jpg

[XYZ]

hey, all the entries are very good, this is my selection,.

1- Karsten
2- Lemmy
3- Rawwad

now I realize my guitar has some obvious problems,, the hole is in the wrong place, jeje, no refference, inacurate painting :D

thanks for the vote jessie. Where is mordor ? does any airline flyes to that place ;P

[DerekSc]

XYZ: I think NWA (Nazgul World Airlines) has a few routes running to Mordor... but the tower always makes you circle a few times before landing.
They have a funny radio system too, sounds like it's right in your head.
"Aaaaarrrraagggooorrrrnnnn... you're cleared to land on runway 7B."

[XYZ]

hahaha...

[want_animate]

Wow.Really talented people here :)

[want_animate]

I forgot one thing : Can i vote ?

[waheed nasir]

hi want_animate...sure u can vote...:). remember Moderator's artwork is not votable.
so go ahead pls...cheers.

[Jessie_Rivers]

Dear Friends: Hi!
Ops! I forget grateful the words of Ximahmoud for my artwork. Thanks Xim. I did it the best that I could. When I was a child I had a lot of artistic influence of the POP Art: Warhold (Marilyn Series), Lichtenstein (in special his masterwork WHAAM!), the movie “Yellow Submarine” of The Beatles, the Posters of Peter Max… In general, all the POP Art. When I arrived at The Superior School of Art, at Mordor, makes me change all the parameters, because they tolds (profesors) that I was living in the past. Well: I becomed in Renaissance’s painter, HeHeHe. Nevertheless, I scape from time to time to my infancy.
Thanks for you opinion :wave:

To XYZ: You are cuban. Permíteme contestarte en español. Mordor es un "Estado de Conciencia", por lo tanto Mordor está donde tú estés. La filosofía es simple: Si conoces la Tierra Media, sabrás que Mordor es el peor lugar, algo comparable a nuestra tierra en pleno siglo XXI. Guerras (Afganistán, Irak, etc.), hambrunas (En especial las de África), pestes (Évola, Sida, Vacas Locas, Aviar, etc.). ¡Y no hay aerolíneas que nos saquen de aquí!
:hmm: :smug: :wave:
To DerekSC: HeHeHe. You are very funny. Thanks :wave:

Jessie Rivers
Independent Republic of Mordor
http://www.myimagehub.com/files/2581/Bandera%20de%20Mordor.jpg

[Karsten]

Great Paintings here, there have been a lot of traditional painter-like approaches, that look really fantastic.

My Votes:

1st ximahmoud
2nd cabrito
3rd Lemmy


Comments:
Xyz (Simply nice),
Rusted (There is definitly some magic in the colours. ),
Rico (Sehr schöne dreckige Zeichnung von dem Gitarrendesperado in der Betonzelle)
Waheed Great impresionistic piece! Is it done with Painter? It´s amazing how it takes a lot of the goodies You get by traditional painting.

[waheed nasir]

thanks karsten...:). it has been painted in artrage. i do tradional paintings as well and at times i really like to blend traditional with digital, like treating my digitals in a tradional way...:).

[waheed nasir]

Speed Painting Challenge no. 46.

http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?p=460969#post460969

[waheed nasir]

RESULT:

hi there, here u go:

Karsten - 24.
Lemmy - 16.
rawwad & ximahmoud - 8.


Congratulations karsten...:), please write to cdsupport@3dtotal.com and to Ben-3dt or Tom-3dt, with your postal address and your cd choice, do include the link to this page as well...).

thanks to everyone...:).

cheers.

[Rico]

gz to the winners. karsten first again, a big congratz, keep up in completing the total textures edition ;)

[Karsten]

Thanks everybody for Your votes and good to see Your great works.

See You in the next challenges.

Karsten



Rico: Hoho!

[jackycheung_1]

ye !!
all so cool ! maybe i am latter,but i will be join the next award... :crazy: :crazy: