Speed Animation Comp "7" (Car Chase/Race)

[BiG ToE-3DT]

_Car Chase/Race_

It’s time to kick it up a notch. Now, on to the comp.

The idea,
A car chase/race. At least two objects moving around an area. If it’s a chase, one must be following the other in some way. If they are racing, someone has to win. Special effects are allowed but are not necessary. This is about the animation. You don’t have to stick to this, it’s just an idea to get you started. On completion, you must submit some sort of render or screen grab that links to your final movie. This is so I can find all final submissions at the end
_Rules_

- The due date is June 2nd, (two weeks from now) a Friday. Voting will be on that Saturday.

- Maximum animation length is 60 seconds, unless you just have to have more.

- Recommended screen resolution in 320x240 (you can do 640x480 if you want, but why would you).

- You can post W.I.P.s but you are only allowed one complete entry. That link is also final. No redos.

- Websites where you post your finals is up to you.

- Remember, it's about animation, use your time for animation, not to get the best render possible, unless you can afford it.

- Use of plug-ins not allowed. Must be key framed (hand animated)

- Try to use Quicktime or Divx if possible. If you can, make a gif.


- Voting will be as follows -

Pick your favorite animation.

First Place- (0-5 points)

Second Place- (0-5 points)

Third Place- (0-5 points)




Good luck!


BiG ToE

[hammering3D]

Let the engines start...grean flag grean flag...go go go !!!...

... nice one ...

[BiG ToE-3DT]

it was DerekSc idea, we should all thank him.

[shikav4]

Wait For Me, I'm Comin.

[KL-Maverick]

This is an interesting one!

[KL-Maverick]

Thanks DerekSc, nice concept. I did say this would a chance to animate some different objects.

Good idea + 60 is good time.

I'll start on it leter this week, when I free, still texturing my current project.

[arneoog]

Yo, people :D
This sounds cool!
And finaly I will be able to compet, cause my final exam is finish!!! :D :D
Now I got almost no school left, school with work that is, hehe...

I'll start on the animating later this day! :)

[shikav4]

Hey people justa small question. Can we use reactor or particles. Not for the whole animation just for blasting things up and some small rigidbody simulations.

[KL-Maverick]

shikav4, in regards to your question, BiG ToE-3DT did say the following.


... Special effects are allowed but are not necessary. This is about the animation...
So of course you can use particles.

[BiG ToE-3DT]

there you go.

[shikav4]

What about reactor? Cause thats not hand animation.

[BiG ToE-3DT]

thats fine too. unless its for something that you could have done by hand. like dents, or bouncing one car off of another.

[evolution]

hmmmmm this weeks challenge sounds cool, but i think it's a bit over my head so I dont think I'll be entering this week, but I will be watching so I expect some great animations!!!!

[KL-Maverick]

shikav4 As long as you hand animate the car chase/race and dont use plug-ins for that part, you are fine.

You may use plug-ins for anything else. Its right there in the guidelines. Don't make the comp seem more convoluted than it needs to be.

[Curtis Martin]

Does the object have to have wheels? Does it have to be on the ground?

[BiG ToE-3DT]

Curtis Martin: nope, I just use the brief to get you started. The chase/race could be kites, bikes, planes. That's up to you.

[stojan_dimov]

BiG ToE-3DT can we use one of the 3D Total's free models, for the challenge of course?

[BiG ToE-3DT]

I dont see why not. Just let everyone know where you got it from.

[stojan_dimov]

Thanks a lot!

[BiG ToE-3DT]

its Tuesday and no one is done yet. You guys are slacking.

[KL-Maverick]

Hey! What da' ya' mean there BiG ToE-3DT :smug: , I've just spend 3hrs unwrapping and painting a head in Maya & Photoshop. I don't see your entry, :haha: Kiding

Anyway I cant wait to start on mine. I'm Blocking out my scene tomorrow night.

Anyway back to my PSD network!!

[BiG ToE-3DT]

Thems fighting words. This time, I'll have you voting my name.

[Curtis Martin]

Actually.. i shall win.. well maybe not win but ill finish b4 the deadline..... that makes me a.... WINNER!!!!!

[DerekSc]

Got something else on the burner right now too, but fear not, I'll get mine in before the deadline.

[KL-Maverick]

Thems fighting words. This time, I'll have you voting my name.

We'll see, after these here' hands and mice keyframe the hell out of Maya!!! :haha:

[BiG ToE-3DT]

Well, I got Max, burning tires and lighting fires. Beat that.

[Freespace-3DT]

Well, this looks interesting. I'll see if I can finish something until June 2nd. :D

Edit: The essence of racing: start lights :evil:

[Freespace-3DT]

Well, scene setup is pretty much complete. Here's a screenshot.

[Freespace-3DT]

Long road ahead. :)

[KL-Maverick]

Nice looking W.I.P., I guess you'll start animating now?! Looking good

[BiG ToE-3DT]

damn Freespace, I was just going to have a few boxes bump into each other. Now I have to bring it. I shall start kicking it up a notch ASAP

[hammering3D]

My WIP :crazy:

Alot will be change in final version...but...just for start...

(the cars are modeled by me long time ago, actualy are my only cars that I finish :D)

Download Version (http://clips2.vimeo.com/video_files/2006/05/25/vimeo.135240.2ec4bc.avi)
Flash Version (on the site) (http://www.vimeo.com/clip:75754)

enjoy, :wave:

[Freespace-3DT]

Here's a WIP. This is the start of the race. Everything was made in the last 24 hours.

www.freespacefilms.com/sf1.avi


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[hammering3D]

Freespace ... amazing ... like all of u'r works...the textures and efects are so nice...creeting a good mood...

... I can't wait to see more wips and the final entry...

[Freespace-3DT]

Mersi hammering3D. ;P

Another update:

www.freespacefilms.com/sf2.avi

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[BiG ToE-3DT]

thats nice, its makes me smile.

[Freespace-3DT]

Why smile? :)

[BiG ToE-3DT]

it was either smile or cry. I'm not crying, not today.

[KL-Maverick]

Yes Freespace! Looking good. I didnt cry though...

[Overdriver]

Nice work so far Freespace, I like the 'Wipeout' vibe you have going there. How are you doing the vapour trails behind the ships?

[Freespace-3DT]

Well thanks a lot guys. :) The trails are with the freeware plugin Ky_Trail from www.maxplugins.de ;

Another 3 seconds added in this latest update. The racers are getting aggressive and I've modelled some more raceway objects to place around. :)

www.freespacefilms.com/sf3.avi

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And I want to see some of your WIPs aswell, people. :wave:

[BiG ToE-3DT]

well today is the last day of the low poly comp, so I'll be man handling the animations starting Saturday.

[shikav4]

Dude thats great as always. The music adds to the excitment. And the camera movement is awesome.

Now would you please tell me how you made the texture for the dome and where did you get the music from?

And trust me I wont copy your work. Its just that I want to know it for future projects.

I'll be posting my work soon.

[Freespace-3DT]

Hey shikav, I'm glad you like it. The music is Stratus - You Must Follow, from the NFS Most Wanted soundtrack, though I've remixed it so it fits the visual side of the film. If by the dome you mean the sky, it's a panoramic cloud texture that I got from the internet, and I've edited it in Photoshop to make it look better.

[USED]

I can start collection bribs to give freespace a temp ban to the forum till the contest is over :P
Really tho freespace we all love to hate you :) Great stuff!
Common guys I know someone can give him a run for his money ;)

[BiG ToE-3DT]

I got you USED, I'll bust out the PINK Caddy, then pimp up and threw.

[USED]

word hommie :D

[al3x]

[QUOTE=Freespace]Well thanks a lot guys. :) The trails are with the freeware plugin Ky_Trail from www.maxplugins.de ;
QUOTE]

man is it a max 8 plugin or lower coess I want to take it :drool: ,and verry nice job btw

[shikav4]

Its available for max 6,7,8

[Freespace-3DT]

19 second update. And the animation is called Speed Factor. I think it gives it a little personality this way. ;P

www.freespacefilms.com/sf4.avi

[BiG ToE-3DT]

your an animal, take a snack break or something.

[Freespace-3DT]

Well, I haven't worked more than 10 hours on this. :)

[XYZ]

great work freespace, I like it, your comp must be fast rendering, , the ilumination and materials are great. the only thing is,, the cameras, sometimes the transitions are too fast and the motion doesnt flow.. maybe too fast, I dont know,, great work anyway,, those were just details, cant wait to see it finished.

[BiG ToE-3DT]

these are the cars I'll be using. Textures aren't a big deal for me on this one. So I'll just keep them as is.

[KL-Maverick]

Looking good

[Ilkejav mk5]

I'd be totally in to join this comp but I could only start working on it tomorrow... so I won't join... I hope the next comp is as exciting as this one... i'd like to rival Freespace... how about NOT doing character animation for the next comp too? Maybe something that allows for a bit of creativity with the camera movements... it's part of animation too.

[shikav4]

I never wish to rival Frespace. He is a very good animator. As he has entered, its gonna get hard for me to win.

[Ilkejav mk5]

by "rival" I meant a friendly rivalry... nothing more...

[shikav4]

Yes I understood that. Even I meant the same. I just want to say that he is a lot better than me and I dont want to compete with him now. Maybe when I get more advanced.

[BiG ToE-3DT]

I'm not scared. I'll bring a letter opener to this gun fight, before I back down.

[XYZ]

Is there a way I can do the animation of a wheel as a loop, so I dont have to rotate it like one million times? I know there is a way, but dont know how to do it. help will be apreciated. :D

and shikav4, come on, if you think yours wont be better than freespace's, you can still get the second place. ;P

[Freespace-3DT]

Lol, come on guys... I'm not that good myself. :) It's just a lot of practice over several years. Work pays, remember that. And I haven't had any time for 3d today, and I won't have any time tommorow either, I'm having 3 exams for college. :wall: God help me!

[BiG ToE-3DT]

Freespace, your still in school. Damn man.

XYZ: in max under the dope sheet there is a selection option thatallows you to repeat an action for as man times as the time allows. I just cant think of it right now. I'll try to find it and get back at you.

[XYZ]

thanks big toe, I ll try to find it out with those clues, ..

[Freespace-3DT]

I'd like some thoughts on who you want to win in my race. The green player or the red player? :)

[bobi]

The red one offcourse :)
The green one is to agresive. I want to se the green one destroed :)

[hammering3D]

Freespace how about make an tunel with just a litle hole in middle and only one ship at a time cood enter and they are equal one near other and bouth try to enter first and bouth explode :D, (this is the ideea)

now the crazzy ideea :D...after they explode the bouth pillots eject, then crow on the street to the finish line :D, and to not model to hard the pilots, make some burning flame biped :D

[BiG ToE-3DT]

going by color, not by animation, in my mind I would think that the red would be more aggressive than green. So after saying that, it would be nice to see red playing dirty, but green winning.

You could always switch the textures, if you wantedto.

[Freespace-3DT]

Well so far it's a tie. 1 vote green, 1 vote red, and 1 vote for both wasted. :D

hammering3D, it's a pretty crazy ideea and could turn out wonderful if executed properly. However, I don't have the amount of time to plunge into such a complex final scene for this speed animation. I'll keep it just between the two racers, this time.
Man, you're sadistic. :evil: I like that.

[bobi]

Hey Freespace let's join our animation (I will post it tomorow if I finisht it) , where my ships came out of nowere and destroes your ships. :) (just kidding)

[Ilkejav mk5]

the green one should win. green is a cool color.

I'll work on a small animation tonight, just for fun... I have no intention of making something awesome...

[Freespace-3DT]

bobi, I'm looking forward to seeing your animation.

Ilkejav: Why is green a cool color? ( ... H ... A ... L ... O ... ? ? ) I'm also waiting to see your work, dude. :D

So, the votes are 2 for green and 1 for red. Well, if in 24 hours this doesn't change, then Green Racer wins.
Here's a 29 second update. So far, 20 hours of work on the whole thing.

www.freespacefilms.com/sf5.avi ( 12 MB, DivX 6.2 )

[shikav4]

XYZ - Dude I'm trying. Trying to get first. And thats why I'm here otherwise I wouldnt have entered the challenge in the first place.

Freespace - One of my crazy ideas. What about a mysterious blue ship that comes in the way, destroys red and green and wins the race.

[Ilkejav mk5]

never mind guys, I just don't have the time to even rush a small video... I tried something and it turned out way too complicated...

[DerekSc]

My old french teacher used to say that red cars statistically went faster than any other colour of the same car. I guess this explains why my french is so bad, too much car talk in class. It's a good thing he wasn't my science teacher too.

[bobi]

bobi, I'm looking forward to seeing your animation.


Well my friend, there is not much to see in my animation at all.
My animation sucks, althrought it's not finished.
Anyway, take a look, and comment...

http://www.mysharefile.com/v/9034034/Za_slanje.wmv.html

screenshot:

[BiG ToE-3DT]

got 7 seconds.

http://s55.photobucket.com/albums/g129/DJBiGToE/?action=view&current=racetest001.flv

[BiG ToE-3DT]

mine isn't looking too good, but it will be done.

[martimus]

freespace dude your skills are sick really nice camera movement

damn you!

[bobi]

freespace dude your skills are sick really nice camera movement

damn you!
Aggreed with that. :) Another vote for Freespace.

@BiG ToE: Don't see your animation jet. The problem is I don't have a flash 8, now will download it, but I suggest you to put your animation into wmv or something that almoust everybody have in comp.

edit: I've just looked at your first 7 sec. and it's quite cool. If the blue one continiues to jump like that, does he even can menage to finisht the race? :)

[BiG ToE-3DT]

Bobi, the problem is the website I post to. I upload a avi, but the site compresses to flash. I need to find another site.

[bobi]

Well I use a http://www.mysharefile.com and it's preaty easy to upload and download file's. Try it.

[BiG ToE-3DT]

I'll keep that in mind.

[Freespace-3DT]

bobi,
Your colors and glows generate an oversaturated effect which can trouble the eye. Try to use less saturated tones and a more subtle glow.

The camera is much better than in your previous animations, you're getting there. It's alive and following the action.

I noticed you did not add motion blur to the space station. Also, if you're going to hold the race in outer space, you need to define a race course ( perhaps place some probes every few miles, so the racers know which way to go ), and you need to place a lot of objects so that the viewer can relate to them and feel speed. Otherwise you have two ships moving in a void, ... there is no feeling of speed, only of floating.

Also, the soundtrack would be more suited to a battle or a destruction derby scene than a race... Try to find inspiration in Need for Speed's soundtrack.

[bobi]

bobi,
You're colors and glows generate an oversaturated effect which can trouble the eye. Try to use less saturated tones and a more subtle glow.

I know... I know my friend. What's you said everything it's true.
I now that my past 2 scenes was quite saturated. That it's becouse I'am now in search best options in colour sheme that I like. Only satureted scene will show me what's the best mix betwen cold and hot colour.


The camera is much better than in your previous animations, you're getting there. It's alive and following the action.

Don't know is it better then in my previous animation, but I know it's not what I wanted. The first scene (don't know how I can tell that in english), I mean the first camera movement may pass, but the second (It's O.K. somehow) until kamera start moveing, is terrible. The third camera movement is a little bit better then the second, but it's quite beyond, on what I wanted.
WEll, maybe it's becouse I chat with my friend, do some picture crops in photoshop, and doing this animation in max at the same time.
It's my mistake anyway.


I noticed you did not add motion blur to the space station. Also, if you're going to hold the race in outer space, you need to define a race course ( perhaps place some probes every few miles, so the racers know which way to go ), and you need to place a lot of objects so that the viewer can relate to them and feel speed. Otherwise you have two ships moving in a void, ... there is no feeling of speed, only of floating.

Good eye my friend.
Realy, I forgot to add a image blur to station. And I noticied (when checking motion blur for space station) a missing motion blur on planet too.
Must chek this when I'am go to home.
I has in plan also to put some circles, where the ships must go throught them to finisht the race. Not still shore about other objects. Maybe some asteroids?
Anyway, all kind of dearty's in race are allowed :)


Also, the soundtrack would be more suited to a battle or a destruction derby scene than a race... Try to find inspiration in Need for Speed's soundtrack.
Who say's that this is not a destruction derby (like brutal sports foodball on A500) ? :)



Althrought I will not finish this scene in the time it's on this chalage, I will try to finish it for shoore. It's not wise to let the scene unfinished, no matter what.
Hope that this chalenge will be open to post finished scene.

[BiG ToE-3DT]

rendering, anybody? I know I am.

[Freespace-3DT]

Exactly how much time left?

[BiG ToE-3DT]

todays is wednesday, its due, Friday 12:00pm GMT. But I have noticed that 12 GMT is always the time the website says it is. So lets try 12 pm your time. I'll bring all the entry's together Saturday, then we can vote Saturday afternoon and we'll find out the winner on Sunday.

[Curtis Martin]

do we win a cd?

[Freespace-3DT]

Well, the site's time is totally whacked up. I'm GMT +2, and my time is 2:37 PM, but the site says: All times are GMT +3. The time now is 07:18 PM; ... can't make heads or tales of it.
I'm finishing today. I was supposed to go to a concert, but it's been cancelled, so I have a couple more hours to work tonight. :)

[BiG ToE-3DT]

do we win a cd?


Well, no. But don't be upset, you should still join in and play with us. USED, us working on a prize system. No one getes anything until all the kinks are worked out.

But this isn't about the prizes, this is about the fact that you get to give life to the lifeless, then even after you work so hard in your spare time, I beat you like you stole something. Everyone wants that. I give it away for free.

[BiG ToE-3DT]

Hey FreeSpace, what compression are you using for yours. Mine is about 29 seconds at 320 x 240 and after compression its like 42 mbs. I'm still playing with it, got alot of compressions to choose from.

[Freespace-3DT]

I'm using DivX 6.2; Mine is 54 seconds at 640x290, and will be around 20 MB... It's compressing right now. Will upload as soon as it's compressed and sound is mixed in.

[DerekSc]

Here's a small teaser just to reassure you I am indeed working on something.
Going to go with a cell-shader for this one.
For the Batmobile, I really like the lines on the redesigned, final season Batman: TAS (90s) version. Didn't use any refs, just rattled this off, so I know it's not right on or anything.

[Freespace-3DT]

Pretty nice batmobile, Derek. Are you using Ink&Paint or FinalToon? Or something else? ... for cellshading.

[DerekSc]

I'm using the generic Maya vector renderer.
I seem to recall the one in Max and Lightwave looking better, but it'll do for this.

[Freespace-3DT]

It's done. This is my final entry for the challenge. Total work time: 35 hours. Playtime: 54 seconds. 640/290 resolution.

Speed Factor

www.freespacefilms.com/speedfactor.avi ( DivX 6.2 - 22 MB )

Awaiting comments. :wave:

[BiG ToE-3DT]

thanks for the heads up on the divX, I'm downloading and installing now.

[Freespace-3DT]

So what did you think of my entry?
And where are all the others? Including yours :)

[BiG ToE-3DT]

well freespace, I don't know how to tell you this but, yours wont count.

[Freespace-3DT]

Ok. Is this a joke? :haha:

[BiG ToE-3DT]

just kidding, it looks good, but the ending seemed weak compared to the rest. I think it was the last camer shot. The watching them fly in is nice, I did the same thing, but in yours the camera seems to fly. If you brought it down to the crafts level, that might look better.

As for everyone else. These aren't due until Friday. So there is still plenty of time for people like myself, and DerekSc who is the person responsible for this comp, to get them finished.

[Curtis Martin]

looks good freespace! but just remember .. u do have some competition....... like the drug dealer said to the crackhead...:"Im bouts ta brang it!"

[Freespace-3DT]

Awesome. Like the difficulty level in Doom: "Bring it on!"

[DerekSc]

Wow, great job Freespace!
Looks fantastic! I love the part where they get together and are spiraling, looks like the way racing hovercraft like that would draft off each other. I always loved the old Star Wars Pod Racing game, and this brings back all those great feelings.
I liked the ending with the slow motion, edge of my seat stuff!
Once again, great job!

[Ilkejav mk5]

wow freespace! another good job!

on the other hand i'm just a bit worried that you might have concentrated too much on the visual aspects... it's the animation that counts... and hovercrafts are a tad easier to animate than real cars...

still, it's an impressive video and the camera work is pretty darn good.

[bobi]

Ahhh... great Job Freespace. :)
I especialy like camera shake when ship jump, and falling down. Great effects. Maybe you consider puting some wave effects when ships colide, or or some wave thruster effects. Brooooommmm... (or whiiizzzzz on this ships :) You know what I mean? :) Let's hear the ships a little.

Anyway, very cool, I know I will whach it again very soon.

[BiG ToE-3DT]

Done. Just don't laugh, too hard.

http://www.mysharefile.com/v/8375453/the_chase_final_.avi.html

[DerekSc]

Well, here it is, Batman vs. Two Face.
I'll spare you my lame excuses, but I really didn't have time to put in the effort I wanted on this one.
The cell-shaded render was taking waaaay too long too, so I did a quick and dirty low quality render.
Anyhow, I know it sucks, but it's here, so enjoy. :)

http://www.schafferworld.com/movies/batchase1.mov

(where are the others, we have more than 3 this week, don't we? XYZ, bobi, Curtis, Martimus?)

[DerekSc]

D'oh, just noticed something. The wheels are going fast, but I managed to time it so they look like they're going really slow. :P It's that old wagon-wheel effect thing (thank god they're not going backwards). I didn't really have time to preview it until now, just threw it all in Premiere and uploaded it.
I didn't put my times above, took about 5 hours to set up the scene (Two Face's car was giving me errors in Maya when trying to texture it, no idea why), the buildings were from a previous speed modeling challenge. About 4 hours for the animating on top of that (I know, it doesn't look it, hardly had a chance to look at the graphs).

Good entry BiG ToE, really like the jostling and action going on between the two cars.

I want to see more entries, my POS is definitely not worth a 3rd place finish! :)

[Terrarist]

Chase (http://www.lawtrust.com.gh/michael/Chase.wmv)
Finally able to post, gonna start here, with my contribution to the comp. Only saw it last night n have been workin like the dickens on it and my account. Joined once, but never used it now it's an empty husk.

Vid's between an F-22 Raptor and Battletech Universe Seylitz IIC Fighter.
Started 9pm GMT last night n finished 3:30pm tday.

Freespace lowers and raises ma morale but i can say i participated. Nice to be here. :wave:

[BiG ToE-3DT]

Terrarist: hey your link is no good. Plus I'm going to need some kind of render/screen shot image to go with your final link, so I know its your final link.

[bobi]

(where are the others, we have more than 3 this week, don't we? XYZ, bobi, Curtis, Martimus?)

Ahhh... my friend, trust me, this 2 or 3 weeks are being terble for me.
Look now: Work on the 2 jobs ( getting early in 7, finisht the first job in 15h, going to the second job, finisht it about at 22:30 or 23:00), geting shouw, drink coffe just to be able to finisht the third job in home i'am working with my friend. We are working on program like encarta, instead this program is about World foodbal championship in Germany. Many statistics, over 10000 picture (and I must crop them in Photoshop in the same resolution, without streching them or so), and we must finisht this in 6 julu.
And beyond everything, the girl bother me right now (they just don't understand why is important what I am' doing now)!

Sorry for the off-topic. Just wanna to share with you, my troubles right now.

Did you mean we have another 3 weeks, or we has a 3 weeks?
If we have another 3 weeks, then I think I will finisht my work with no problem.


If I die to jung, come to my funeral :)

[BiG ToE-3DT]

he said 3 this week, meaning more than 3 people entering the comp. Today/Saturday morning is the deadline for this one.

[anem8or]

I animated this in about 6-7 hours. I used XSI 5 to model and animate.

My Entry (http://www.mysharefile.com/v/9828441/ship_chase.mov.html)

Good job to everyone else who posted they are all looking great.My entry picture

[BiG ToE-3DT]

anem8or: I'm going to need some kind of render/screen shot image to go with your final link, so I know its your final link.

Not trying to be mean, it's just in the rules.

[shikav4]

Hey people wait for me. I've just completed my animation and I'm about to finish the rendering. But I cant post my animation right now. Would it be ok if I posted it in the morning (Its night right now in India and today is friday.) That means can i post it on Saturday morning.

[hammering3D]

Hello all :wave:

I did't have time like I was thinking I will have :hurt:, then today I said I work a litle ... but time fly by...and in the end my max give some errors and I can't render smoke and fire...so I give up on the smoke at the tyres and the fire on the exoust...and in my litle time I tray to make at least a funny short entry ... the litle guy pussh the big guy out :crazy: ...

Freespace ... amazing...what to say more ...I love the slow motion efect at the end of the movie...

DerekSc ... funny how the car step on the other car and flip it off :D...

BiG ToE-3DT ... I like how the car jump... and in the end I like how the car brake and trik the other car then win the race ...a common move in multyplayer games when kicking is alowed :D...and not last...the render and specialy the movement of the cars from TOP view remeber me of and old PC or Console Game...not remember what game exactly :crazy: ...maybe Lotus or Chase HQ...or ...

anem8or ... I like the movement of the ships and the ideea of enviroment...when the ships move around that reflectiv pipes...the movement of the ships togeder with the reflexions make them flow so nice around the pipes ...

and here is mine:

Download Version (300kb) (http://clips2.vimeo.com/video_files/2006/06/02/vimeo.141713.cad0b3.wmv)

hope U enjoy it...hope I have more time next competition...can't beleve in 2 weeks I did't have time to work more at this nice ideea of chalenge ...it was such a great oportunity to learn...hope next time...


EDIT: Sorry, now is wmv like the movie with buss stop and I think now one have a problem with that one...so hope now the movie works on anybody machine and now is just 300kb size...and the flash verison I don't know the problem so I remove it...

See U

[Freespace-3DT]

bobi: I didn't want to get too troubled up and mix in sound effects in this one; maybe next time ;P

hammering3d: I can't play it, use DivX to compress it; and the Flash doesn't work either, says it's not converted yet or something;

[shikav4]

Hammering 3d: The same thing is happening with me too.

[hammering3D]

EDIT: Sorry, now is wmv like the movie with buss stop and I think now one have a problem with that one...so hope now the movie works on anybody machine and now is just 300kb size...and the flash verison I don't know the problem so I remove it...

[Freespace-3DT]

LOL, a Dacia and a Trabant... and Trabant wins... figures :haha:

[hammering3D]

hahah :D is not a Trabant is a Fiat 500 ;P

[Terrarist]

W007!
All dressed up with nowhere to go:
New Chase link (http://media.putfile.com/Chase-12-38)

Forgot to mention the rest of the S/fx were from C&C Generals and the soundtrack from Justin Durban's Halo 2 re-edition.

[BiG ToE-3DT]

Hey people wait for me. I've just completed my animation and I'm about to finish the rendering. But I cant post my animation right now. Would it be ok if I posted it in the morning (Its night right now in India and today is friday.) That means can i post it on Saturday morning.

yes.

[Curtis Martin]

Still renderering.. will have it in before Saturday..... Heres a lil taste.....hope u like it...

[DerekSc]

Uhhh... BT, did you mean midnight on Friday (12am Saturday), or noon (12pm)?
That would have had a big impact on my sleep and my movie (sound/music, better render, guns guns guns, etc...), and in that order too (my body wakes me up extraordinarily early when it knows I have to do something, paranoid of sleeping in I guess).
Not a big deal anyways, lots of great entries showing up, and that's really what I want to see happening here. I'll post a few comments on everyone's work when the voting starts.

[BiG ToE-3DT]

sorry DerekSc, I'm that way with my sleep too. But yeah, I thought I would nice and make the deadline more like 10 am on Saturday. Then we can start voting after that.

[XYZ]

oh,, its a little late but I'll have something done for tomorrow morning,, I did this car trying to do a super simple car for the animation ( body and wheels ) but I just couldn't, I cant stop adding things,,

freespace, super super animation,, that is quality man, sorry about the camera thing I said before, i was blind. and those are really crazy texts you put on your animation :D

dereck thats funny .. haha.

[BiG ToE-3DT]

hurry up XYZ, I want to close this thing and start voting.

[BiG ToE-3DT]

You too, Curtis Martin. Hand em in.

[Curtis Martin]

uploading now:)

[XYZ]

wait for me please I'm almost done, its a quick idea

[Ilkejav mk5]

Terrarist: hey man, great use of edgen's halo soundtrack! great movie!

[BiG ToE-3DT]

Hurry, I gotta get this party started right.

[Curtis Martin]

Here is mine... finally

http://www.mysharefile.com/v/5402221/thechase2.mov.html (http://http://www.mysharefile.com/v/5402221/thechase2.mov.html)

[Terrarist]

Thanx Pirate.
Curtis fix your link, you've got 2 https in there

[BiG ToE-3DT]

fix that Curtis, with the quickness.

[BiG ToE-3DT]

XYZ, I know I said like 10 am or 12 pm, but I'm starting to think that I lied.

[XYZ]

Ok ok,, finish,, sorry about the delay

It looks terrible , i couldnt animate the wheels and they slow down.. etc,.

I'm suppoused to be at work at 2:00 bye ! ..

www.bgraphik.rgbspace.com/race.avi

[Freespace-3DT]

Unless there are no more entries...

Let the voting begin!
I've got all 8 animations in a designated folder and I've wacthed each of them about 3 times...

[DerekSc]

Good job XYZ, I could almost hear the little whine of RC motors.
Do RC cars still have antenas, or have they evolved past that now?
In my day they those big floppy antenas on top, and we had onions tied to our belts, which was the style at the time.

[Curtis Martin]

OPPS!!! here you go ppls!!

the right link (http://www.mysharefile.com/v/5402221/thechase2.mov)

[Curtis Martin]

Please forgive me fellow animators for my obvious hyperlink posting incompetence!!! I will go to the bathroom, get some shaving cream and punish myself! (yes, i know... what i just said did not make a lick of sense)

[Freespace-3DT]

You're gonna shave off your left eyebrow?

[Curtis Martin]

Yeah...ummm... yeah...eyebrow... thats it! yah

[BiG ToE-3DT]

ok, I'll putting the links together now.

[BiG ToE-3DT]

Let the Voting Begin.

Freespace: www.freespacefilms.com/speedfactor.avi

BiG ToE-3DT: http://www.mysharefile.com/v/837545...final_.avi.html

DerekSc: http://www.schafferworld.com/movies/batchase1.mov

anem8or: http://www.mysharefile.com/v/9828441/ship_chase.mov.html

hammering3D: http://clips2.vimeo.com/video_files/2006/06/02/vimeo.141713.cad0b3.wmv

Terrarist: http://media.putfile.com/Chase-12-38

Curtis Martin: http://www.mysharefile.com/v/5402221/thechase2.mov

XYZ: www.bgraphik.rgbspace.com/race.avi

Alright, Watch, Vote.

[Curtis Martin]

terraist link is not working big toe...

[BiG ToE-3DT]

its fixed

[Freespace-3DT]

Works for me, Curtis.

Here's my votes:

1. Curtis Martin
2. XYZ
3. DerekSc

[Terrarist]

Only got: mine, DerekSc, XYZ, Big Toe, Hammering and Freespace, so gonna vote on those.

1. Freespace

2. XYZ

3. DerekSc

[BiG ToE-3DT]

My Vote:

1. FreeSpace

2. Curtis Martin

3. XYZ

[DerekSc]

My votes:
1 - Freespace
2 - Curtis Martin
3 - anem8tor

C&C:
Freespace: What can I say, it's a great piece of work. Nothing I would change. If you want to add to it, I'd suggest some shots of the drivers at the controls, and maybe some shots from the drivers perspective as they zoom by the posts and stuff. Thanks for the vote, btw.
BiG ToE: Nice job, the cars have a lot of character. Maybe have the cars turn more when they're bumping in the overhead shot, but otherwise it looks solid.
anem8r: I love the aquatic feel to your models and the movement, very flowing, just could be a touch more exciting though.
hammering3d: Looks like an interesting start, need to watch those floating cars though. :)
Terrarist: Nicely choreographed chase, like the camera angles, but you may want to smooth out the abrupt camera stop when it swings in behind the second plane.
Curtis Martin: Really well done as well, loved watching it. The only thing that put you in second, is sometimes I felt like I was too close (even inside the model), and other times too far (couldn't tell what was going on). Really great though, lots of fun to watch.
XYZ: As I mentioned, loved the remote control look of the cars, but it kind of threw me off that the wheels weren't turning (rotating or side to side). Good job though, still is exciting and has lots going on.

Nice to see so many entries in the end, you guys had me worried there! :)

[XYZ]

well, even though I think that animating a flying object is easier than animating a car,, we cant deny that freespace and cuttis martin did a good job so..

1 freespace good job,, animation and cameras are very fluent.
2 cuttis martin ( it was too long, suddenly I didnt know if it was looping or what {which massive attack album is that? })
3 Dereksc ,, I liked some parts, others still need work, but it is ok for a speed anim challenge, the movement of the cars is ok,,.

big toe,, the same for yours,, I like many things of your ani, but others need work.

anem8or, I liked yours a lot,, those rare ships fly so smoothly, that looks good,, but I still think the other guys did better,

hammering3d, you have just started a new animation type called blink animation :D ,,, good job anyway.

Terrarist: looks nice but still need work.



dereksc : I know the wheels doesnt rotate, but believe me, I didnt have time,, I did that in two hours cause I had to leave.. I also know the cars slow down suddently and that looks awful ,, but anyway. And I dont know if the new RC cars have an antena,, I suppouse they do,, but I really dont know if mine are RC or what. :D

[Curtis Martin]

1) Freespace #$$#$!!--- (Yes... Im hating on you:) seriously.. great job
2) xYZ ---Nice use of secondary animation. Even though the wheels did not turn i still
got the feeling theat the cars were "pushed" by a motor, not pulled which
seems to be a common mistake in anmating cars.
3) DerekSC --- nice clip. My only crit. The first part when they did that hard turn was
great. When the car was dodging thru traffic, it was kinda robotic
looking. Add some drift and secondary animation...make it less perfect...

[bobi]

Hey, good work All..
I'm sorry I didn't have time to participate.
Becouse of that I will not vote for anybody
(althrought, we all know who is the winner :) )

[BiG ToE-3DT]

well bobi, you dont have to join in on the animation fun, to join in on the voting.

[BiG ToE-3DT]

The Winners Are:

First Place: FreeSpace

Second Place: Curtis Martin

Third Place: XYZ

[bobi]

Congrat on the winers, and also thouse who participated:

So... what's next, so I can startp sharpening? :)

[Curtis Martin]

my vote is we do a fight scene using weapons of some sort....

[DerekSc]

Congrats to the winners! :)
In my humble opinion, a fight scene can take a really long time to get right. I did one in 4 weeks while learning Max, and it wasn't polished or anything (Fall of the Black Eagle, in the animation part of my web site). Perhaps instead of a whole scene, we do one super move or combo attack, that way we have time to put in lots of nice secondary animation, get the weight right, etc. Typically, when working on a video game, you will animate one move at a time, and it gets linked together in the game.
This could be something for your demo reel if it's done well. Companies don't want to see 5 minutes of ok stuff, they'd rather see that you can do 15 seconds of fantastic work (learn from my mistakes). I was talking to a guy at Sony once, and he said they were in the process of hiring someone based on a 30 second demo reel because of the quality of those 30 seconds.
Any other opinions on this? BT, what do you have in mind?

[BiG ToE-3DT]

I was think we might want to stick with some kind of shape animation for the next one. Only because a few people have stated that they dont have a character or know how to create a bone system.

On the other hand, we could start doing the cycles (walk,run,jump,fall,get up). And whoever can handle it, do so.

DerekSc: your right about the good vs the fantastic. I had a meeting with EA, here in Chicago. The lady I talked with said they don't want a well rounded artist that is good at everything, but someone great at one thing. Then she showed me some demo reels people had sent in, what was good what was bad. One of the reels she showed had a godd 5 to 10 second animation, she said we hired that guy, because of that animation. The rest of his reel, they didn't even look at.

[Freespace-3DT]

Hey thanks guys, and congrats to Curtis and XYZ on a job well done.

As for not having a character or bone system, you can always just use the Biped in 3dsmax. If you don't use 3dsmax, well... that's your fault. ;P

[martimus]

Depends on where you want to work.

The larger companies like the one you mentioned, EA, with hundreds of employees will want specialists, but the smaller companies that perhaps have around a dozen would find good use for an all rounder.

Perhaps just a walk cycle would be good to begin the character animation challenges with

[shikav4]

Well I'm late for the submission so there's no point posting the animation now. But I'll try next time. As for now I'll just vote.

First Place: FreeSpace

Second Place: Curtis Martin

Third Place: XYZ

[Curtis Martin]

you can still post it... this is a learning environment shikav4. Besides.. im curious:)

I agree with dereksc. One or two moves would really be fun....

[KL-Maverick]

Congrats to the winners.


... Perhaps just a walk cycle would be good to begin the character animation challenges with

I walk cycle is a good idea, but it should be a walk cycle to a certian mood, e.g. creeping, stealth etc. and I also think others like get up, fall, and a character action move and so on would be suitable for the character animation challenges.

Martimus havent seen you lately for the comps!? You must be busy dude!

[bobi]

If you are doing the character animations, let's get the idea a bit more original.
Walk cycle?
Well... no human character isn't a chicken to walk cycle. :)

I have a idea abouth the character animation in the idea thread, but let's get another 2 or 3 thread simple, so much more people can participate this time.
That's my opinion.

[martimus]

havent seen you lately for the comps!? You must be busy dude!

Yeah I took a while off after finishing uni to relax to be honest, and Im trying to sort out a website and show reel to start applying for jobs,

Ill be back soon though dont you worry!

ps agree with the 'moods' walk cycles

[DerekSc]

Shape animation, BT? Hmmm... how about:
A pinball machine.
Board game where the pieces come to life (chess, Monopoly, etc...).
Asteroid field with a ship navigating it.
A sinking ship.
A chain-reaction mouse trap (like the old board game).
Some sort of planetary explorer (like the Mars rover).

[Freespace-3DT]

Imagine this if you please:

Two starfleets approaching one another. Capital ships from each fleet deploy several small squadrons of fighters. Long range siege frigates start to rain energy and fire upon their distant foes. Heavy bombers uncloak just before attacking the enemy capital ships and then dissapear again before being covered with cannonfire. ... In essence, a fleet battle. Think of Homeworld, Star Wars, Battlestar Galactica, Freelancer, Gundam Seed, Wing Commander... Think epic destruction.

[DerekSc]

Hehehe, funny. The whole time I was reading your post, I was thinking of ships from the one thing you didn't name... Star Trek (Nemesis was on last night). Oh yeah, and Starship Troopers, was thinking of that too.
Sounds good, and I guess we can make it as big as we'd like (or as small, based on personal time restrictions).

[martimus]

haha that might be achievable for you in a week freespace, but i fear an epic space battle might be a tad too much to acheive in such a short time for the rest of us 'sane' people :p

[Freespace-3DT]

LOL, exactly, Derek, I forgot Star Trek ( I'd rather say the fight with the Borg cube at the beginning of First Contact, rather than that dragged on fight between Enterprise and the Scimitar... too long, too stiff ) and Starship Troopers ( though there weren't any fleet battles, those huge carriers getting blasted were gorgeous ).

Martimus, it's two weeks, right? And of course modelling will not be considered in judging... Instead, we could consider the tactical evolution of the battle. How the ships are arranged, how the strength and weaknesses of different strategies are applied, how they are arranged in formations... this lies within the animation.

[martimus]

two weeks?

did it change??

[BiG ToE-3DT]

2 weeks, it did change

[hammering3D]

hammering3d: Looks like an interesting start, need to watch those floating cars though. :)



hammering3d, you have just started a new animation type called blink animation :D ,,, good job anyway.


hehehe...atleast make U laugh :D, that was the ideea to laugh...cause did't have time :( to animate more...but maybe in this week I will make something nice...but is so hard, or alteast for me look hard :hurt: ...


...


Congratulation to Winer Freespace (really amazing...anaimtion modeling render efects etc...)

And big congratulation to Curtis Martin and XYZ ... U guys are amazing to...

and congratulation to the rest that join in...is nice that in final we weren't only 3 ppl...and more come in the last second...is nice to have more and more competitors...

Can't wait to see some works in the new chalenge...hope ppl will post some and not wait to pass alomost 2 weeks...

See U,