Speed Painting Challenge no. 50. [Archive]

waheed nasir

30-07-2006, 10:57 PM

hello there...:). hope all is fine.
the 50th Speed Painting Challenge is here...starts today and ends on the 12th of August, Saturday.

Topic: King Kong And The Environment.

paint a king kong with his environment, be it mountanious or of a jungle or even a city, your choice, but have some sort of a setting according to the mood and which goes with him. your King Kong has to be the Focus in your artwork.
painting fur is always a challenge and fun as well...:).

each person can submit upto 3 artworks but kindly do remember to mention your final, votable entry.

Rules: http://forums.3dtotal.com/s...ead.php?t=24525

voting starts after the 12th of Aug.

all the best... :wave:.

Rico

30-07-2006, 10:59 PM

UHUHUHUHUHUHUH!!! great topic!

watch your bananas :dance:

GEK

30-07-2006, 11:27 PM

Kong Own All :D

NoahHornberger

30-07-2006, 11:39 PM

Isn't king kong a variation or specific case of beauty and the beast?

I'm pretty sure the well known image of kong is heavly copywritten(someone else owns the idea). So copying/misrepresenting the design from the recent movie wouldn't be legal. I would like to join this contest but I am not interested in painting and distributing images other people designed and have the rights to. I also don't think it is very fun or rewarding to simply copy an existing idea. The topic seems to leave little room for innovation, as everyone on here already has a pretty good idea of what a king kong is supposed to look like.

I would think, that a speed painting forum would want to focus on synthesizing new things, because it most instances, that is what you end up doing in the industry as a concept painter. I can already imagine what everyones painting will look like.

I wouldn't have such a problem with a topic like, "a new take on kong"

universalpictures/legal (http://www.universalpictures.com/legal/index.html)
what does everyone think about sections 5 and 6?

tokai

31-07-2006, 01:29 AM

Topic: King Kong And The Environment.

haha... what a coincidence. I was toying around with a king kong idea for the "Beauty and the Beast" challenge. :)

artecnl

31-07-2006, 01:44 AM

i think its a nice topic, involves landscapes, character, maybe some explosions :D nice one :D

waheed nasir

31-07-2006, 02:31 AM

hello there noah...i know what u mean and i do appreciate the input, i do agree with your point though regarding exact copying of the thing. every now and then we see stuff on various sites, like paintings done of an already made concepts, even the king kong was done my many. lets not take it as stealing the idea or concept, its about presenting the thing in one's own ways, with entirely differnt settings. this challenge is just about having fun and to learn things at the same time, no one is going to use the presented artwork anywhere under his name as a genuine idea. it would be wrong if someone does that. im sure people take these challenges as a learning ground, to get tips from others and improve/develop their skills for their later, own concept paintings.
if u just follow previous challenges, ull notice that those who bring their own idea in their artwork, get much more appreciation and those who just copy an already made image, they even get harsh criticism. copying is never encouraged. lets not see in from that angle...:).

wargrafix

31-07-2006, 03:01 AM

hey waheed, interesting challenge. While I'm not overjoyed with it, I suspect something interesting will happen in this challenge as with all the others. For me, it will be an question of "where" rather than "how". I'll try a little radical thinking here.....
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......Thought balloons! Yes, thats the key.

DerekSc

31-07-2006, 04:46 AM

Nobody is going to get sued for anything they're not making any money from. It doesn't make legal sense to sue a small group of people for making their own fan pictures. Lawyers aren't cheap, and paying them for the time involved just for a cease and desist letter better be financially worth your while.
I really don't think they're going to care, we're not stealing software or a physical product, and if anything we're helping promote their property (someone might see an image here and think "oh yeah, I was going to buy that DVD/game/soundtrack" and do so). By the way, the score from the new movie is outstanding, go pick it up for inspiration.

I don't think a new take on Kong is specifically out of the question, there are a lot of outside-box-thinkers here (that's a compliment) so I figure it would be inevitable that something non-traditional would show up anyways. Waheed, how about it? Can we do something like Kong on Mars or Kong in the year 3000 or does it have to stay within the realm of the movies?

wargrafix

31-07-2006, 07:29 AM

Hmm...DerekSc does have a very interesting point. But the movie reference may be the safest bet. I could be wrong, but lets see what waheed has to say.

In the legal aspect, nahh I doubt we'll face issues. The comes under fan art, as long as we don't copy an image direct (like a poster image), we won't be facing any action.

artecnl

31-07-2006, 08:36 AM

well :D less talk and more painting hehe, i did this in 2 hours ps7 and a graphire 4 tablet, hope you like it :D, i hope this is ok according to the topic :)

wargrafix

31-07-2006, 09:04 AM

Hey, thats pretty good artecnl. good job. starting mine a little later today.

Glottis

31-07-2006, 02:27 PM

Good one Artecln, he´s kinda evil though :)

Here´s mine:

As I remember, we all do crazy thing to win our girls heart, and Kong doesn´t differ from that

Photoshop 5.5 via Wacom

1 hour 25 mins

GEK

31-07-2006, 06:35 PM

The 5th i go on holyday,and whithout scanner & graphic pen,i can't make 3 piece...
I must try to make a good one and post the w.i.p. :D
The sketch(pen on paper) is complete,later go at my friend's home and scan it... 3-4hours and i up it!

Vampire

31-07-2006, 06:54 PM

Nice Topic!
And nice paintings so far!

Artecln: Very good painting, i like this strange cold atmosphere!
Your painting style is very cool and the colors are perfect.
Hope you do a second one.

Glottis: Very cool scene, but i think the shadows aren´t right at all.
I think the grass and the background should be a bit darker.

Here´s mine:
Done with Photoshop and Wacom Intous 3 Tablet.
Time: 40min

I´m very new in digital painting so i hope you have some good critics for me.
Hope you like my first entry!

Mwhahaha

31-07-2006, 07:58 PM

Hey Glottis, I really like yours man. The look on Kongs face is hilarious.

My friend Andy was inpired to draw this after seeing your picture. This is how he says Kong would really fight.

Oh yeah. I forgot to add the time. This was a 15 Min sketchup. Andy, didn't want people thinking he was a tard.

artecnl

31-07-2006, 08:09 PM

wargrafix- thanks :D i hope to see yours soon, thanx my friend
Glottis.- hehehheeh hilarious, i think its the best idea so far :D LOL
Vampire-Weeelcome to the SPCH, well your colors are nice, i think its a little bit flat, try to put more light reflections in rock, some bumps in rock , i think, i see king kong is sooo happy in that pic :D LOL
Mwahahaha- hehehe veeery hilarious too, great idea men :D you guys make me laugh a lot :D (glottis and you) ( i like your avatar a lot :drool: )

i hope all of you have a great day :)

Milan

31-07-2006, 09:40 PM

ok well done every one.

*Rue

31-07-2006, 10:06 PM

omg, this **** is hilarious, very nice paintings so far. Wahahahah I'm still laughing about king kong throwing poo and holding his head into a Trex's mouth.. wahaha

GEK

01-08-2006, 03:30 AM

this is my basic sketch:

http://img430.imageshack.us/img430/1365/dwi0.jpg

Mitsui

01-08-2006, 04:04 AM

My lil contribution...

PS+Wacom around 40 min

http://www.area-56.de/pics/speedpaints/sp_0372_king_kong.jpg

artecnl

01-08-2006, 04:13 AM

GEK thats a great sketch, i know with colors will look greater

Mitsui- very nice very speedpainting look :D good job :D welcome

GEK

01-08-2006, 04:38 AM

Tnx Artecnl,i hope to have enough time... if not i will finish it in september :D

Mitsui,i love this work,specially the lady in white!

i want a graphic pen,mouse sux :<

kovooraj

01-08-2006, 04:48 AM

took about 1 hour to complete, this is my first time doing a speed painting challange so plz tell me how you like it and if possible tell me how i can improve, OH btw i was using a mouse to paint couldnt find my tablet

wargrafix

01-08-2006, 05:45 AM

Vampire: Nice mood setting. The gorrilla a bit off but nice idea.
Mwhahaha: Dude, that one is funny as hell. good idea.
GeK: nice sketch. hope to see a coloured version.
Mitsui: Holy damn.....that is excellent. I may need to rethink my idea, its not half as good. ^_^
kovooraj: Good use of brushes. Grass looks very decent.

rushir

01-08-2006, 04:55 PM

its my first post
and less an hour sketch
how do you like it

waheed nasir

01-08-2006, 05:35 PM

hi there friends...sure u can play with the environment and paint whatever u feel like.

dereksc wrote:
Can we do something like Kong on Mars or Kong in the year 3000 or does it have to stay within the realm of the movies?
sure...go ahead please. not at all necessary to have something from the movie. its all upto u, infact that would be great to see some change...but as i said, your Kong has to be the focus.

all the best and good work guys...:).

jdgill

01-08-2006, 08:58 PM

Hey everybody, great job on your paintings so far. I can't wait to see what else you guys scrape together.

Heres my entry.

One hour, Tablet, Photoshop CS2

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/3720/kingkongkc3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Gabriel_Novaes

02-08-2006, 12:33 AM

hey, nice works. here's mine... photoshop 2hrs

Josiah

02-08-2006, 04:41 AM

here we go guys!

Great entries so far.
Here's my entry.

ENJOY!

Josiah

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/3746/threedykongpm0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Humuni

02-08-2006, 05:06 AM

Very nice pic, Josiah!! i LIKE how the painting is not completely filled around the frame...nice~~~

GEK

02-08-2006, 05:36 AM

And the winner is... Josiah :D

wargrafix

02-08-2006, 05:40 AM

Josiah, man that is impressive! You can feel the rage, and power. Good work.

boristone

02-08-2006, 05:58 AM

Excellent work Mitsui...nice and simple...perfect!....

BiG ToE-3DT

02-08-2006, 07:50 AM

looks like he traced it to me. :) :p

rap

02-08-2006, 11:12 AM

hi guys!

this is my first time to try the speed painting challenge here.
did this more or less, in 5 hours using wacom and photoshop.

really enjoyed doing this piece! setting up a tranquil mood where
the beast is mesmerized by the beauty in front of him. hope u like it!

tokai

02-08-2006, 12:02 PM

here we go guys!

Great entries so far.
Here's my entry.

ENJOY!

is that some kind of sarcastic post or do you try to sell us a faked entry? I can clearly read at the bottom "AB 04 DEZEMBER IM KINO" (which means is "in cinema from 4th december"). Looks like you painted over a poster or ad scan. Please clarify.

http://www.insidekino.com/Z/zkingkong_small3.jpg

While is nothing wrong with to look at reference material its against the rule to use another work (be it a photo or art by someone else) as base for your work.

regards,
tokai

BuffDady81

02-08-2006, 01:02 PM

Wow some really nice bits of work.

Come on Joshia - You know the rules, you have to post your ref if you use one, and since your usually one of the first for pulling up others for not doing this I think its a bit hypercritical (or how ever you spell it!)

RAP - What a way to make a good first impression. The atmosphere of your piece is really well concieved. Great piece of work.

MITSUI - Love the style of your image, looks like a great piece of concept art. Really nice style.

GEK - Hope you get time to colour, the sketch is really nice; with lots of potential.

ARTECNL - No surprise's here! Another top piece of work. The lighting is really nice and atmospheric.

GLOTTIS - Nice Idea and OH so true !!!!

VAMPIRE - The concept is good, I would say you need to work on your body shapes and proportions. Try using a photo of a gorilla to get the size and scale as well as the body pose, as at the moment it kind of looks like a large warrior with a sword then Kong. Also try highlighting areas of the black forground this will help to give the image more depth. Hope these comments help!

MWAHAHAhahahah - The thought of Kong throwing his kong sized poo at you is more then enough reason as to why you should never take on the Kong. Nice comic style.

RUSHIR - I like it, even though I think it is hard to really see the image / whats happening within the scene. The colours are nice. But I think you should work on trying to add more detail to your image.

JDGILL - Nice colours, though I think it would look better with an actual environment rather then than just light and shade.

GABRIEL-NOVAES - The lighting is well done and I like the angry Kong.

KOVOORAJ - I like the sense of movement in your piece and the environment is very nice.

I think thats everybody! Hopefully Ill have time to do my own. Keep up the good work !

nevermindjoker

02-08-2006, 03:46 PM

this is my first time to really post a contribution to speed modeling ang to really post again for a very long time ... i attached in progress of kong ...
my projection on its final will be a good background to set on the mood and to change the skin tone and more on detail of the fur plus the eye should be realistic enough, well ... soon

thanks

Josiah

02-08-2006, 04:05 PM

Very nice pic, Josiah!! i LIKE how the painting is not completely filled around the frame...nice~~~
thank you for the compliment.

I didn't trace it. though I did follow the ref. I have it, but I completely forgot to upload it. nd yes it is hypercritical of my. Sorry bout that guys :roll:

Josiah

To clear up the rumurs: the original is the wierd colored version.
I did a couple of things to make it my own.
Thanks for the compliments guys. And nice entries everyone!

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/5981/afdadu4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[img=http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/4103/afdahb3.jpg] (http://imageshack.us)

BuffDady81

02-08-2006, 04:24 PM

wargrafix

02-08-2006, 06:08 PM

Wow, I couldn't beleve I was fooled. -_-

king-of-retards

02-08-2006, 08:38 PM

But if you didnt trace it JOSHIA why did you put the date on it from the poster. You may have manipulated your image to change it slightly but you have still used the original as a background!!!! Im sorry but I aint buying it

WHAT THE fukc MAN!

Give him some credit! I have no idea what your talking about :(
Wow, I couldn't beleve I was fooled. -_-
you were not fooled. He has always been honest about his art.

Believe what you want, but my vote is going for him.

...

king-of-retards

02-08-2006, 08:39 PM

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/3746/threedykongpm0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)[/QUOTE]

Good work Josaih

Mitsui

02-08-2006, 09:14 PM

Thnx for your kind words guys!
Great entries so far.

And tracing or using an image as a background is a no no :grr:

edit:
king-of-retards is that you josiah?
only 12 posts most of them in your own thread and then those last two posts in this thread....
Then the speedpainting thread 47 where you vote for josiah...
very suspicious...

stephendm

02-08-2006, 10:06 PM

Believe what you want, but my vote is going for him.

...
Should'nt you wait until you've seen the rest of the entries before you decide that?

This place is getting ridiculous :) :D There's constant entertainment and it's all pretty hilarious...but ridiculous! :dance:

Anyway, some really good pics posted so far guys - I look forward to seeing more (should be posting mine soon too)

king-of-retards

02-08-2006, 10:09 PM

Should'nt you wait until you've seen the rest of the entries before you decide that?

This place is getting ridiculous :) :D There's constant entertainment and it's all pretty hilarious...but ridiculous! :dance:

Anyway, some really good pics posted so far guys - I look forward to seeing more (should be posting mine soon too)
lol. this is pretty funny

Josiah

02-08-2006, 10:11 PM

Thanks Cracker lips. you have a way of putting things in perspective.

I will be honest. I have never cheated on a speed painting challenge, and I am not about to start now. I have over 1500 posts, and have some good friends, and good feedback on this site. :)

I will post my work in progress in my art thread. Which can be found in the 2d section.

thank you and i will post my next enty soon!

Have good one-

Josiah

Mitsui

02-08-2006, 11:23 PM

Josiah

03-08-2006, 12:19 AM

hmm you should stop with that...I'm not much around here at 3D total but you acting is very suspicious...you even ignored my comment.

You might have over 1500posts but it seems that you still need to praise yourself with a fake account....

king-of-retards and josiah = same guy....

you should act more without attracting attention if you use both accounts...
king-of-retards replies, two minutes later josiah replies...both have the location 'in a house'
strange thing. But anyways I don't want to waste my time. This is indeed ridiculous....
Just my two cents...
lol man. You crack me up. Your so serious about this man. :)
King-of-reatards is not me. It is my friend named Mike. He started an acount about a year or so ago, and posted all that crap on my thread to be annoying. :lame: It worked too. i had no idea that it was him untill he started making fun of me for believing it. Kinda funny. I just asked him to post a vote for me in the last couple of contest. And he did. that's all...

But seriously though. There is no way that I can prove that I am not 2 people. You obvioulsy are a very confronting sort of person, and I don't think that you will believe me no matter what I say (or anyone else for that matter)

And btw, I do have more accounts, I am actually Avatar-3DT and JDgill. So enjoy :smug:

So, I am officially done with this arguement. Believe what you will, but lets stop spamming these threads with drama.

Okay?
..
Okay.

Josiah :)

HammerCH22

03-08-2006, 03:15 AM

So my King Kong Entry
3hrs
Adobe Photoshop CS2

Josiah

03-08-2006, 04:28 AM

Nice job Hammer.

The pose of the girl seems a bit acward though.(looks like shes dancing) But other than that, I like it.

Josiah

Josiah

03-08-2006, 05:05 AM

My second entry.

BATTLE OF THE BEASTS!

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/8348/trexthreedyau2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

And just to keep it fair :)

Here is the reference picture (was NOT copied, so don't even bring that up :roll: :wall: ): http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/1175/refjy8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Here are the wip pictures:

Sketch:http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/2498/trexthreedysketchtz2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Color sceme:http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/6228/trexthreedysketch2oe3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Detail Kong: http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/8038/trexthreedysketch3tq0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Detail Trex: http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/1324/trexthreedysketch4lw9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

*whew* that was alot to post. :)

Let me know what you think.....

cheers!

nevermindjoker

03-08-2006, 05:40 AM

But if you didnt trace it JOSHIA why did you put the date on it from the poster. You may have manipulated your image to change it slightly but you have still used the original as a background!!!! Im sorry but I aint buying it

And NEVERMINDJOKER - you are only supposed to post finished pieces not WIP. If you want to show WIP then start your own thread thems are the rules!

ooppsss, sorry about that ... just realized it's speed painting ...anyways, the wip took only 20 mins., got somethin' to do so i didn't finish it.

well, i'm doin it right now from the start, and got a time stamp script (.vbs) to measure the time.

nevermindjoker

03-08-2006, 05:45 AM

josiah works kinda focus ... on the dinosaur rather than king kong, didn't noticed kong at first glimpse . but at least it shows good painting anyways .

kovooraj

03-08-2006, 05:51 AM

this painting made by refering to the official king kong poster i really liked the way that the light reflected of the fur creating a breath-taking picture... so i painted it, the girl is not perfect but its the best i can do using a mouse. the painting took about 2 hours to complete and about 20 min tweeking it so that it looks as good as the poster.

" it wasnt the airplanes... it was beauty that killed the beast

HammerCH22

03-08-2006, 07:07 AM

I couldn't quite figure out how she would be in his hand... I just kinda flubbed it. Maybe she should be struggling to get out...

GEK

03-08-2006, 07:15 AM

@ Kovooraj: very,very,very COOL

This is my w.i.p. of the sketch i've posted some page ago:

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/911/warforsupremacyks6.jpg

Tomorrow i must post my "final entry",also if is'nt finished(holydays are here!!! :dance: )

kovooraj

03-08-2006, 07:57 AM

GEK thanks for your remark and you peice is very good, i espicially like the tired/week look on kongs face. hope to see more soon

rap

03-08-2006, 08:45 AM

RAP - What a way to make a good first impression. The atmosphere of your piece is really well concieved. Great piece of work.

thank you very much BuffDady81 for your inspiring words :D

nevermindjoker

03-08-2006, 11:18 AM

alright now, my first submission, my concept is about kong fighting a huge anaconda, well just never saw a movie, kong fighting big snakes although i didn't watch kong series (japanese version) ....

anyways, time stamp below:

Start: 8:36:23 AM
Break: 9:20:36 AM - 44 mins
Start Again: 11:08:05 AM
Break: 12:02:48 PM - 54 mins
Start Again: 1:16:10 PM
End: 2:20:54 PM - 64 mins

it took me 2.7 hours

if you also want to time stamp your work i'm sharing my script(VBS) here:

set fso = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
set file = fso.CreateTextFile("log.txt")
file.WriteLine "Start:" & Time
file.Close
stamp
Sub stamp()
set file = fso.OpenTextFile("log.txt",8)
If vbYes = MsgBOx("Break",vbYesNo Or vbQuestion,"Time Stamp") then
file.WriteLine "Break: " & Time
file.Close
MsgBox "Start Again?"
set file = fso.OpenTextFile("log.txt",8)
file.WriteLine "Start Again: " & Time
file.Close
stamp
else
file.Writeline "End: " & Time
file.Close
WScript.Quit
end if
end sub

just copy paste in notepad and save it as .vbs and run it when you're going to start painting

BTW, i used PSCS2 and references are also attached herein my post

i'm thinking of another concept for my 2nd submission, as the deadline still far (aug. 12 not mistaken)

i'm still not satisfied coz there's not much details on fur of kong and scales of anaconda .... hmmm ... maybe i should change my tecqnique ..

BuffDady81

03-08-2006, 01:50 PM

Man I love it when everyone starts fighting over this thread. Its the most fun i have all day reading everyone's insults flying backwards and forwards. More More!!! I think we should set up a Threedy Forum fight club so we can settle all the disputes in a ring of honour. Beating the artistic licence out of each other. Two artists enter, one artist leaves.

Still dont believe you Im afraid JOSHIA - lol - you poop! I cant believe you have your mate bigging you up thats just funny, and reposting the image now that you have painted over the clearly visable writting on the first is genious!!! I do think your second image lacks a real Kong element though, The focus is defo on the dinosaur. Although I do like the piece I dont think it goes well with the topic.

KOVOORAJ - I like your piece, the positioning of the characters and the atmosphere of the piece work very well together. Very nice.

P.S I must just say I really am not taking anything seriously on this thread, and those who are should lighten up, who cares if someones copied, I think it can help improve an individuals skills. As long as they post there refs, Ive been guilty of it in the past, as JOSHIA will know, Im just having a laugh busting his chops coz he did the same to me when we did the ninja project. LIGHTEN UP EVERYBODY THIS IS SUPPOSSED TO BE FUN ! ! ! !

Annatar

03-08-2006, 02:18 PM

Okays, it wasnt as originally imagined but it turned out not too bad. Some areas I aint happy with but hey ho.
I originally wanted to make him look more royal... crown etc etc.
Still he did end up with a Sceptre of sorts.

Given the standard of work thats coming in... Ive a snowballs chance...

BuffDady81

03-08-2006, 02:29 PM

ANNATAR - Its a good concept, Your kong looks very protective. I would say if you want to improve then you need to start adding more detail, at the mo your image is very blurry. Just by adding some hair detail and getting rid of the fuzz then the image would be greatly improved. I think the key is to pick out areas of your work to help focus the eye. Just keep practicing, my skills have greatly improved by entering these contests and learning from the feedback!

Glottis

03-08-2006, 02:41 PM

Thanks everyone for your reply :)

never expected this´d be crowd-likeable, but hay, what´d ya now :)

And vampire, thanks for your crit :)

Nice work everybody!

Well.. everyone except Josiah...

shame on you!

:P

BuffDady81

03-08-2006, 03:18 PM

Nice work everybody!

Well.. everyone except Josiah...

shame on you!

:P

LOL

Annatar

03-08-2006, 03:53 PM

Artecnl: Cool as always. Only one gripe - Kong looks a little, erm, Terminator'ish...?!?

Glottis: Good to see the King having a laugh.

Vampire: Others have already commented, so what really can I say. King Kong The Tripod? Do Gorilla's have tails and if not then.....?

Mwhahaha: Love to see him "shooting" the planes down in NYC the same way.

Gek: Brilliant stuff man. Nice detail. Only one tiny thing, Kong looks a little like Bigfoot, rather than a gorilla.

Mitsu: Brilliant Stuff.

Kovooraj: 1st Pic, Cool very cool. I swear it might be an illusion but it looks like he moves. 2nd pic Well done, great atmosphere.

Rushir: Looks like it could be really cool but extremely difficult to see whats going on.

Gabriel_novaes: Great concept. The face looks to have suffered a little. Still kicks butt though

Josiah AKA Avatar AKA JDGill AKA King Of Retards (Allegedly): Traced, copied, whatever.... It still looks cool. However if its against the rules... "AB 04 DEZEMBER IM KINO" Ooops...
Remember the 11th Commandment- "Thou Shalt Not Get Caught"
The second picture looks pretty cool. I dont mean to pick but, Kong was meant to be the focus of the picture.

Rap: What can be said?!? Brilliant brilliant stuff.

Nevermindjoker: Would like to see it finished; it has great promise

Hammerch22: Looks cool but Kong looks to be separate from the background... not IN the jungle.

Buffdaddy81 - greatly appreciate the kind words and advice. Like you say we are here to learn and develope skills, you, me, Josiah, everyone, if we cant laugh and take things easy we shouldnt be here.

Now, wheres my Frapa Bailey's?!? Damn cant drink alcohol at work... no fun!

Josiah

03-08-2006, 05:03 PM

the bottom one is the real one.

YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT CHEATING??!?!?!?!?!?!?

I was gonna keep my mouth shut about this guys art, but you guys won't shut up about mine alledgly cheating, and are missing other people CRAP~

good night! If you don't believe that it was my work, you don't have to vote for me. And for the love of god, I am not freakin' king-of-butt-holes~!

http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/9845/untitled3copyhp6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Annatar

03-08-2006, 05:10 PM

OMG!!

Thanks Crackerlips... oh and Buffdaddy (for text hur hur hur)

Josiah

03-08-2006, 05:44 PM

OMG!!

Thanks Crackerlips... oh and Buffdaddy (for text hur hur hur)
lol

this is rediculous...

nice work

I am voting for you! :crazy: :D

Annatar

03-08-2006, 05:59 PM

Seriously, this is getting outa hand. everyone chill. This is as important as month old bananas... not very. Lets just laugh n move on. Nay biggy!!

Voting for me without seeing the rest. Coooollllll thats the only way ill win this!
HEHEHE

Annatar

03-08-2006, 07:49 PM

stephendm

03-08-2006, 08:34 PM

Hmmmm.....

Well Kovooraj if doing this helps you learn, then work away...I'm not bothered but .....you really should let people know when tracing. It would prevent all the fights. Actually hang on a minute....the arguments are the best thing about this thread ;) lol :dance:

Fight!.... Fight!.... Fight!

kovooraj

03-08-2006, 08:35 PM

Josiah does have a point. But then Kovooraj did say it was referenced from a pic.

Whats the line tween referencing and erm, copying/using. Overlaying both images shows, how should I put it?... that little if anything was changed. The Kongster fits perfectly over the original poster and the girl is a shrunken near exact match (additional hair added)

Also, I dont know where it came from but there are letters visible. (letters ND behind the girls head and others)

There may be reasons for these things but Im struggling to find em.

Oh hell what does it matter. I should listen to my own advice and chill.

MMmmmm lovely bananas.... mushy
lol the reason kong looks similar is because i spent about 1.8 hours on him and the girl and the enviorment about 50 min the letters in the backgroung are the letters that are on the brush i use (the brush were custom made by a picture of crumpled magazines), i like to use a lot of brushes to do my work. and i would of made the girl proportional if i had more time and if i had a tablet but apparently i my tablets broken and i had to use a mouse... also the girl i had few probles with im not really an artist who can draw human properly therfore im learning..... but this peice isnt copied.. but if you dont belive me, there is nothing i can do about it, i jus liked my painting and liked to share it, thats all.
lol crackerlips i didnt trace if thats what you saying if that was true i everyting would look exactly like the poster, im like those "perfectionist" i like my work to be almost perfect and i try my beest to do that.. but if you still think im cheating... i cant help you there, also i didnt belive that josiah ever copied or traced i actually liked the way his work is presented, i also think that accusing a person without consulting them personal is shamefull, i think if you think that a person is cheating plz p.m. them im sure they will be able to give a reasonable answer, and if you really think that person is cheating plz dont vote for that person pick another person.

ps: plz do not try to resize my painting it looks pretty ugly when its blured and unproportional to my actual posted image.

Glottis

03-08-2006, 09:26 PM

This is beginning to remind me of Counter-Strike

the"-he´s-so-immortally-god-that-he-must-be-a-cheater" attitude.

where everyone goes:

-HEADSHOT-

"fkn haxx000r!!!"
"u´l b b annedd!!!1!!"
"HE´S USING WALLHACK I SAW IT"

etc etc etc

stephendm

03-08-2006, 10:18 PM

lol crackerlips i didnt trace if thats what you saying if that was true i everyting would look exactly like the poster, im like those "perfectionist" i like my work to be almost perfect and i try my beest to do that.. but if you still think im cheating... i cant help you there, also i didnt belive that josiah ever copied or traced i actually liked the way his work is presented, i also think that accusing a person without consulting them personal is shamefull, i think if you think that a person is cheating plz p.m. them im sure they will be able to give a reasonable answer, and if you really think that person is cheating plz dont vote for that person pick another person.

ps: plz do not try to resize my painting it looks pretty ugly when its blured and unproportional to my actual posted image.

What's the difference between pm'ing and posting in the thread? This kinda thing concerns everyone here so you should give everyone that reasonable answer. I'm not here to bust your balls - I just looks to me that it's traced, since you said that you were using a mouse and also that you're not really an artist who can draw humans properly, because the girl you painted and the girl from the poster are practically identical. Kong is too, for that matter (though all scaled a bit differently). I don't care how good an artist you are (although you said you weren't), there's no way you'd be able to paint an 'exact' copy of something just by looking at a reference.....
...so.....I just commented that it should be made known to everyone when tracing to prevent all these time-wasting arguments but since you say you didn't, we'll leave it at that.

How's about from now on, if anyone suspects another of "cheating", we don't post our suspicion in the thread but instead, we pm Waheed and let him decide? If he believes the image is traced or whatever, after the person attempts to give a reasonable explanation, then you take it like a man and delete your pic!
All can be done via pm. People will know that if a picture was removed, that it broke one of the rules (unless the person states that it was removed for another reason) and will get on with the challenge and the fun!
What do you think Waheed? (or can you suggest something better?)

Mitsui

03-08-2006, 10:23 PM

I will not comment on it anymore...it's ridiculous and annoying at the same time.

I just did another speedy
took me an hour and 15min ps+wacom

http://www.area-56.de/pics/speedpaints/sp_0428_king_kong.jpg

*Rue

03-08-2006, 10:42 PM

oh do I pity those men in the water ^^, good atmosphere Mitsui

Bobbyhiom

03-08-2006, 11:11 PM

Truly amazing Mitsui

vitala

03-08-2006, 11:23 PM

great work mitsui, i like the style.
Where are you working in berlin?

I'll be entering something a little later on tonight. ~Just collecting a ref picture to trace ;)

wargrafix

04-08-2006, 01:59 AM

I agree with crackerlips! This flame war is getting way out of hand. Let the admin. sort out things and decide before any one is publicly accused.

In other things....
Mitsui, your piece is incredible. You can feel the tropical humidity! I just got home, might try my hand at a piece in a while.

artecnl

04-08-2006, 02:10 AM

nice Mitsui, nice for 15min. :D great

Glottis

04-08-2006, 02:43 AM

I agree with carckerlips we should stop arguing on the thread and pm Waheed

kovooraj

04-08-2006, 04:20 AM

i agree with crackerlips aswell, even though he dosnt believe me

no hard feelings

Mitsui well done i like your setting

nevermindjoker

04-08-2006, 04:45 AM

I'm using mouse, it's easier for me to draw or paint using it instead of pen & tablet (wacom, or some stuff), when i started using Computer as a medium, i have to conform with it.

(this is an opinion)
the issue on whether you just trace a reference it doesn't make any sense of thinking of not using that kind of tecnique ... or you just done it for only 15 minutes ... who would know? hey! we are bits and bytes of data around the www, okay? i say, if you want to be a real artist ... you should be true to your work, okay? honesty plays here, that's all i can say ... we can be like the boy who cried wolf, hey we are not living on the same world, in reality you exist.

so stop the crap, and be honest.

stephendm

04-08-2006, 05:49 AM

Grand so.....so getting back to the whole painting thing....:D

Here's mine
Spent a good while on this and I'm still not happy about parts but I don't want to spend any longer on it. About 5.5hrs, Photoshop, Intuos3

stephendm

04-08-2006, 05:51 AM

Here's the reference I used (I believe you'll all recognise it ;)....sorry)

Glottis

04-08-2006, 06:24 AM

HUllo again!

I figured we all needed a bit of a laugh after previous posts, so her´s my second contribution:

(well.. technically my third, painted another pic this morning, but when trying to resise it, my comp froze, and ´cause it´s me, I forgot to save it.. 2 hours down the drain :()

anyway:

Kong´s still trying to impress the lass, by upgradin the old rabbit outta a hat trick:

photoshop 5.5 via Wacom tablet, 1 hour (single layer mind you)

Milan

04-08-2006, 08:10 AM

o very nice Cracker

Milan

04-08-2006, 08:16 AM

this is my 3 hour painting.

nevermindjoker

04-08-2006, 08:53 AM

here's my 2nd submission ... and refs

time stamp:

Start:11:41:54 AM
End: 12:09:33 PM

PSCS2 - mouse

nevermindjoker

04-08-2006, 08:54 AM

i wonder why my images are not shown in the post?

GEK

04-08-2006, 11:13 AM

Finally i post the my "Final Entry"...
Isn't really finished,but the timework for my is over!
Sea,beach,sun,relax and german-tourist-girl... in one word,HOLYDAYS! :dance:

Tecnique = Pen on paper-->Photoshop CS
Hours of work = ?
Image reference = None

=== WAR FOR SUPREMACY ===
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/1071/warforsupremacyca2.jpg

ps: my vote goes to Mitsui please count it. I really dont see what sense have cheating in a competition like this... hold the tricks for a money-prize event:D
Next time be more "stealth" :D

BuffDady81

04-08-2006, 12:39 PM

GEK - Really nice, Its looks really good now you have coloured it in. I love Kongs Expression. You know he's just won one hell of a battle. Like the style.

Annatar

04-08-2006, 01:11 PM

Mitsui: Arghh... you did that in only 15 minutes!.... *Annatar hangs up his tablet and cries* You have a great talent there man!

Cracker: Groovy picture, Kong looks as if hes saying "God will they ever stop doing pictures of me, I am not amused" hehe

Glottis: Love the pictures. You could do a comic strip for Newspapers :D

Milan: Woohh hey!! Kong on Acid

Gek: Brilliant stuff. Your attention to detail is pretty class

Hunchy

04-08-2006, 05:16 PM

Here is my painting. It only took 2 and a half hours. Using Painter, photoshop and my wacom.

BuffDady81

04-08-2006, 07:48 PM

Mitsui did it in 1 hour 15 mins not 15 mins - come on no ones that good, check what he wrote!

kovooraj

04-08-2006, 08:27 PM

i got a question? dose it matter if the picture contains an indirect version of kong than the real one.. like for example a statue of kong or somthing like that?

artecnl

04-08-2006, 09:06 PM

very nice Gek and hunchy, D i like both, Milan, great color flow :D
hope to see more :)
cheers

Glottis

04-08-2006, 09:57 PM

hehe thank you annatar.. i actually am working on 6 stories ( 5 of which are my own creations, the sixth i´m only illustrating)

Johnzie

04-08-2006, 10:36 PM

stephendm

04-08-2006, 11:59 PM

Cheers Milan - Glad you like it. And welcome back.....have'nt seen you around for a while....glad you could make it in for this one. Off with the abstract again I see...nice! I can't help but stare at your pics for ages at a time....so many things going on. You painted over your signature though! :)

nevermindjoker: Scary stuff. I like it but I think it would look a bit better if it was less blurry. Nice for 28 mins anyway! The reason your pictures aren't showing up is because you have added two pictures to the same post (using Threedy's uploading system)....if you delete the reference (you could post it up again referring to post#93) your painting will show up!

GEK: I'd love to know how long that took you....it's class. I can't seem to do it with my tablet but I generally use the same scribbley style when drawing with pencil (or biro)....only difference is, you can pull it off a lot better than i can :) Love the colours, the scene, the expression on Kong's face...priceless!

Annatar: Thanks....yeh that's exactly the face I asked him to pull when I had him pose for me. He loves the attention really! ;P ...and don't cry...lol...Buffdady's right (though I saw only 15 mins too). (Excellent pic btw Mitsui...I could learn a lot from you...one question too - is that your work in the link in your sig? WOW!! Some of the "speed paintings" there , I couldn't do in a month, never mind a handful of hours....I'm impressed. Nice one mate)
Ooh ...nearly forgot, Annatar - Your pic, btw is pretty great. That's one serious looking ape. I wouldn't like to take him on with his gigantic sceptre stick in ther middle of the night! :) I especially like the detail in Kong's face, the grass and the girl (looks cosy:)). Nice one

Hunchy: Nice concept and colouring. I think the writing takes away from it a bit as it is too sharp but other than that, looking good. No offence too but it's also funny (sorry...my stupid sense of humour...it looks like Kong is wearing leather boots ;)...and all chained up...kinky. lol.

:-)

05-08-2006, 12:59 AM

this is my first entry ever...

http://img15.imagevenue.com/loc534/th_22616_kong_wip_534lo.jpg (http://img15.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=22616_kong_wip_534lo.jpg)

GEK

05-08-2006, 01:09 AM

GEK: I'd love to know how long that took you....it's class. I can't seem to do it with my tablet but I generally use the same scribbley style when drawing with pencil (or biro)....only difference is, you can pull it off a lot better than i can :) Love the colours, the scene, the expression on Kong's face...priceless!

Tnx for the positive review :D
Number of hours... mmh,this piece took me 1 or 2 hour for night,for 4 "session"... i think took me around 6-7 hour,but maybe moore.
For the tecnique if you see the original sketch,you see that the 90% of original line was stolen,replaced with photoshop's brush.
I use often a micro-brush little 1 pixel,with 100% pressure on a layer set on "normal". Later softing it bringin down the layer's opacity to 35-40-50%,not with the filter "blur",that lost definition.
Try to do the same and you dont have problems to make an image like the mine...
I hope to be enough clear,if not i'm sorry but my english is a really **** :D

GOOD HOOLYDAYS AT ALL :dance:

kovooraj

05-08-2006, 03:04 AM

here is my last peice it took about 1 hour and 15 min using photoshop 7 and a mouse, this time i used no referance images... i wanted to give a cartoonish yet a realistic feel to kong.

enjoy

GDA

05-08-2006, 10:05 PM

So my entry, 2h... But I hate colors...
http://www.fusun.ch/fasanart/foto/crayon.jpg
http://www.fusun.ch/fasanart/foto/ink.jpg
http://www.fusun.ch/fasanart/foto/all.jpg

xissburg

06-08-2006, 03:30 AM

however, very nice jobs by here...what about a "Spider Gorilla"?!? ...thats my crazy idea for the first paint challenge I'm going in. 2h45min in Photoshop CS (aka photoshop 8) with a mouse:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y121/xissburg/spider_gorilla.jpg

Jarratt

06-08-2006, 04:15 AM

that tidy-whitey wearing...

Mitsui, don't get roped into that stuff. Regardless of whether or not that guy cheated, your paintings are completely gorgeous. You have a talent that few have; the ability to capture the essence of a scene by showing only what needs to be shown. Few here can hold a candle to either of your pieces.

Keep them comin' everyone. Nothing brightens my day like a 3d total speed painting challenge. There's a lot of creative energy here. Mostly good attempts.

Jarratt

06-08-2006, 06:05 AM

2 hours 15 minutes. Photoshop mcgillicutty. No references.

nucron

06-08-2006, 12:22 PM

there's some great work happening in this challenge. it's especially nice to see the more creative approaches to the kong theme, but I suppose using posters as reference is alright, too, as long as you're learning and having fun (but I guess it's a good idea to post refs?). competitions are a double-edged sword in that it can bring out the best and worst in people. of course, it's no fun seeing accusations being thrown around, but hopefully we can all get back to what this thread is really all about.

anyway, here's my shot at it:

painter 8, 40 mins. (no ref)

stormnboy

06-08-2006, 03:50 PM

HAHA.. This is my first entry to these competitions.
Done in Photoshop CS with my wacom
Took about three hours to do. Maybe four :o

(Moderately Censored - I'm sure you know exactly what’s up...)
PS Not encouraging, but... These flame wars are rather entertaining. :evil:

Kreean

06-08-2006, 03:53 PM

Hi
Great works @ all
Welcome to the new one :wave:

well vacation is over (and every time it´s too short :D )

@ artecnl #11 ...a very creepy atmosphere. really good
@ rap #36 ...great picture rap. I like it very much. Kongs fur looks great. my favourite
@ Annatar #69 ...lol very cool idea.
@ GEK #94 ...nice details. I like the expression on his face.
@ nucron #111 ...nice mood. The light is beautiful...
@ Mitsui #21 ...very nice picture. You can feel the tension between them (pretty fast)
#78 ...again very fast and great atmosphere.
I have sawn you´re portofolio, awesome. You worked on "The Orkbabies" ?
I read about it in the "Digital Production" Magazine and saw the first episode or was it the Trailer?
Never mind, Great work! Respect!

@ Reference Users: :roll:

I don´t think that copying a picture in any way is a good thing. :ugh:
If you are using a already painted or photographed picture don´t forget that there was a
artist who made it :( . You should respect his Artwork and leave it as it is.
Don´t repaint, overpaint or copy it... someday you´ll maybe be an artist too.
And I don´t think that you will feel comfort about it to see your work redone.
The Usage of reference for me is another thing. You look at things like proportions, perspective, textures and lights
and adapt them in your work. But you do not copy the whole picture or elements of it!?
Be creative, use your imagination, think of new sceneries; don´t be bound by the works of others.

I think that the flamewars about this point will go on, so maybe it would be good if Waheed could change the rules
about the usage of reference... :dunno:

wargrafix

06-08-2006, 09:48 PM

Well, I finally got some time this morning. (Final projects giving me stress). This is my piece. Doubt I will get time to do another, but I really like this one. References were basic shots of buildings for size and colour.

Time : A little over 4 hours. (And yes, I can barely feel my fingers)
Tools: graphire 3 and all painter 9.

Jarratt

07-08-2006, 05:42 AM

photoshop mcgillicutty and tablet. 3 hrs. keep up the good work everyone. I'll write comments some day.

cabrito

07-08-2006, 06:40 AM

I posted once a long time ago, I need to start painting, this is a great challenge. Great entries everyone.

I spent 1.5 hours, photoshop on wacom

kovooraj

07-08-2006, 09:11 AM

photoshop mcgillicutty and tablet. 3 hrs. keep up the good work everyone. I'll write comments some day.

hey dude i think the picture u used for referance looks almost same as the one you painted.... not saying anyting though .. and by the way your supposed to post your referance :wall: ---> ill help u with that one. i liked how you alligned kong so that it exactly matches the picture in the referance. the t rex is a "bit" off by like an centimeter but thats alrite. also if you just add a bit more detail to the backgroud it would look almost exaactly like the actual picture, btw good effort. u also forgot the small girl in da middle of the pic.

Mitsui

07-08-2006, 05:03 PM

Thnx for your comments everyone!
And yes I wrote 1hour and 15minutes.

Vitala: I work in ludwigsburg right now...need to update my profile ^^;

Kreean: hehe yeah I did work on that short film. But we couldn't produce it as a tv series.

crackerlips: yeah that's pretty much my portfolio. Glad you like it.

Great work everyone keep em comin'

Jarratt

07-08-2006, 05:09 PM

tx for putting up the ref pic, didn't know about the rule. I left out a bit of detail to keep the time down, also to avoid accusations. I didn't line the two up to see how close they are, hopefully not enough to **** anyone off. I'll put up the one i actually used.

Titanium.wombaT

07-08-2006, 07:09 PM

All right, lets give this speedpainting thing another go! This time with some color! All critics welcome and encouraged. :wave:

(4 hours, wacom, pencil, paper, ArtRage 2)

nucron

08-08-2006, 05:51 AM

And btw, I do have more accounts, I am actually Avatar-3DT and JDgill. So enjoy :smug:

Josiah: are you serious about this? because you just blew my mind... :crazy:

Josiah

08-08-2006, 07:53 AM

Josiah: are you serious about this? because you just blew my mind... :crazy:
you'll never know, now will you. :evil:

Josiah/Jdgill/Avatar-3DT :D

nucron

08-08-2006, 08:50 AM

you'll never know, now will you. :evil:

Josiah/Jdgill/Avatar-3DT :D

heh, the only reason I asked was because if it is true, you have went fairly out of the way to maintain the multiple "identities", like talking to "yourself," etc. example:
http://forums.3dtotal.com/showpost.php?p=436441&postcount=12
http://forums.3dtotal.com/showpost.php?p=436468&postcount=15

and yes, I remember everything, haha... ;P

stormnboy

08-08-2006, 01:06 PM

heh, the only reason I asked was because if it is true, you have went fairly out of the way to maintain the multiple "identities", like talking to "yourself," etc. example:
http://forums.3dtotal.com/showpost.php?p=436441&postcount=12
http://forums.3dtotal.com/showpost.php?p=436468&postcount=15

and yes, I remember everything, haha... ;P

HA. This is terribly amusing. Josiah, I think you should admit you stuffed up. Or you can just dig a deeper hole. :dance:

Annatar

08-08-2006, 04:44 PM

Hunchy: You definately like your Beasts big. Love the texture - a little more detail on Kongs head would have made it real kickass.

:-) He's an evil looking b**tard!

Kovooraj: Cool cool picture, like a dark storm rising.

GDA: Love the Idea. Hate colours?? try monochrome

Xissburg: Nice one! Real cool Y-Fronts

Jarrett: Kong's scale is impressive. Would love greater details on himself though.

Nucron: Great Pose. A Pity the silloette didnt allow for greater detail.

Stormboy: Love it! The Movement. The Feel. The Finger...

Wargraphix: You have a knack with comming up with great settings and poses. You may want to play around with different brushes, opacities etc. I just know all those windows must have been a killer to do.

Cabrito: Cool Picture. Can see Kongs distress/panic/pear.

Mitsui - sorry, I must be going blind. Still its a great picture

Titanium Wombat: trying to rival Glottis???!!?

Thanking all who commented on me pic. Will take onboard all pointers

wargrafix

08-08-2006, 06:04 PM

Hey annatar thx for the comment! I really played around with colors and since you mentioned opacities, you should really see some of the alternate layers i created in the second hour. Getting a richer palate seems to me my main challenge right now. And yeah, the windows proved to be the most tedious, but i like the outcome ^_^.

This was alot of fun and its a shame what seems to be going on. In fact the funny images are what seems to be driving the challenge foward. (esp the poo throwing king kong.)

Titanium.wombaT

08-08-2006, 06:40 PM

Titanium Wombat: trying to rival Glottis???!!?

Nah, just was wandering thru the AFI's top 100 movie quotes and ran into the Kong one about beauty killing the beast...and spun it! Success, failure...? Who's to say.

:wall:

Annatar

08-08-2006, 06:56 PM

Yeah, sorely tempting to have Kong dressed as a jungle explorer in a city trying to trap humans. Perhaps using a triangle of cheese.

Okay its a sad idea.

I really figure the poo throwing kong could... should... shoot the planes down. A mucky mess....

Titanium.wombaT

08-08-2006, 06:59 PM

Yeah, sorely tempting to have Kong dressed as a jungle explorer in a city trying to trap humans. Perhaps using a triangle of cheese.

BriLLianT!! :haha:

wargrafix

08-08-2006, 07:23 PM

lol...or big trenchcoat and hat. Oh wait..sounds like Monkeyman and O'brien.

I tried to do a king kong with the girl, but for some reason it kept coming out like mighty joe young. Ergghh, what a horrible film. On a scale of 1 to 10, it was minus hell.

:-)

09-08-2006, 12:28 AM

This is my final entry.
GIMP + Wacom Digitizer II
Time = 20h (maybe this is a good time for a Slow Painting Challenge ;P )
Click the thumbnail for the full sized image
http://img103.imagevenue.com/loc424/th_66003_kong_424lo.jpg (http://img103.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=66003_kong_424lo.jpg)

...and my reference:
http://img15.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=66348_king_kong1_429lo.jpg
http://img157.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=66453_chrysler_building_seen_from_em pire_state_building_516lo.jpg

Jarratt

09-08-2006, 02:43 AM

i just wrote critiques of nearly everyone's work and then accidently closed firefox. good ones too, not be-nice-to-everybody-so-they'll-like-you, bull**** ones. shoot. me.

that being said, here'es one for last guy: thats a long damn time on one painting. buildings and planes look pretty resolved. For kong, draw what you see in your reference, not what you imagine, ie look at his right hand. see the difference? Also, make the clouds more transparent and airy, they look completely solid and flat. in other words - soften the edges ...a lot.

ps. Unless you've got plans to print this image, there's no reason to do it billboard sized.

wargrafix

09-08-2006, 06:38 AM

I agree with Jarratt, " :-)" its an ok piece, but needs a bit of work. Look foward to you other submissions.

VersionThirst

09-08-2006, 07:30 AM

Great paintings so far. This is the my first entry for a speed painting comp. I thought it might get lonely out in the jungle, being the only one of your kind... no friends, no one to talk to...
Photoshop CS2
Mouse
~4 hours

:-)

09-08-2006, 12:10 PM

@ Jarratt and Wargrafix: I've got blisters on my fingers !

Annatar

09-08-2006, 12:57 PM

VersionThirst: Thats a truely class pic. Aye tis lonely in dem dere hills.

Hmmm thats a good question, was Kong the one and only huge ape? what of his parents? and were they the only ones of their time? If so may have been a small gene pool.

Deliverance.................

Anyone hear a banjo playing???

Kong may have been is own second cousin and great uncle at the same time!!!

kovooraj

09-08-2006, 06:23 PM

if kong was the only one of its kind, and being of the male species, i bet he spent more time with that girl than we really know about :dance: .... u know what i mean, it would aslo explain y kong would go to that lenght to protect the girl. also we dont know what happens after kong dies maby the girl becomes pregnent and has his baby and jack willl be like wtf... or maybe it would be twins.... so maby just maby there might be another revolations of huge apes called kong Jr. lol an example of this would be mighty joe young.... lol :smug:

Annatar

09-08-2006, 06:35 PM

HE HE HE, good one!
Hmmmm but what of the mechanics of the "situation" I mean Kong is a big lad.... kinda like piloting a supertanker through the eye of a needle.
No way could he drop anchor in that port!!

Blonde haired superapes who all wear white dresses... scary!

kovooraj

09-08-2006, 09:44 PM

lol who know maby he has a small "ding dong".... otherwies my friend would have spotted it while watching the move apperently it was completly invisible or it was completly covered by fur... its the attack of the hairy "ding dong" AAHHHHHHHH

wargrafix

10-08-2006, 03:52 AM

LOL.....who knew this challenge would be so entertaining for all the wrong reasons. Annatar my friend, if hollywood should hear that, i'm guessing they will rub their hands in glee thinking of the next rip-off movie to make. I can see it now "blond kong" who introduces herself as " kong, blond kong"

oh, wait, they did that already: "donkey kong"

kovooraj

10-08-2006, 04:06 AM

oh, wait, they did that already: "donkey kong"

i guess the reason he is called donky kong was probably a donkey got sexually active with one of kongs offsprings thus creating a stubburn yet monky looking donky named "donky kong".. lol :dance:

Annatar

10-08-2006, 03:02 PM

Next challenge: To speed paint Kongs offspring!

Blonde haired, transvestite, three legged, monkeymen!
...with a slice o donkey.

Ohhh Donkey from Shrek. Now THATS a disturbing image.

nucron

10-08-2006, 03:10 PM

oh you guys and your blonde gorillas, and donkeys, and....wtf

:-)

10-08-2006, 10:21 PM

this is my final, votable entry !!!!
I have repainted the right hand and retouched the clouds
time: 20 h 40 min

that's all :xx:

kovooraj

11-08-2006, 01:28 AM

Next challenge: To speed paint Kongs offspring!

Blonde haired, transvestite, three legged, monkeymen!
...with a slice o donkey.

Ohhh Donkey from Shrek. Now THATS a disturbing image.

lol i won this one!!!!!!!

this is not a votable pic this was only done fr fun lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MAN the kong family is being humiliated :evil:
it took me 1 min to finish painting

wargrafix

11-08-2006, 04:40 AM

:-) : There, that looks better. Good attempt.
kovooraj : Lol, I know that one isn't votable, but I really am lost for words. Actually i think king kong might also be expressionless. But wait...I see the gorilla...I see the donkey....but the blond hair. That must be the weirdest three some of all time.

Good greif, I'm blind!

kovooraj

11-08-2006, 05:00 AM

wargrafix glad u like it
lol

:-)

11-08-2006, 11:58 AM

wargrafix glad u like it
lol

me too

Annatar

11-08-2006, 01:00 PM

:-) Groovy entry. The Chrysler building looks very good. Nice blending with cool metalic shine. The clouds are better than before but still needs, as said before, a little more opacity, parts look a little too solid. Kongs fur would have benefited from a varying of tone in places. It looks a little too flat black. But hey its better than mine so...

kovooraj I dont know what disturbs me more, the blonde hair or the nail varnish/lipstick....
But definately the favourite if not the winner in the Kong/Bimbo/Donkey hybrid offsping Compo

Is that a tail or....ermm.... ahh... Ohhhh

wargrafix

11-08-2006, 05:04 PM

:-) : I do like it beacuse I can relate how much stress it was to draw the crystler building. ^_^

I hava a question. Does anyone actually use "dodge and burn"?

:-)

11-08-2006, 05:30 PM

double lol to you, mr Kovooraj !!!
not votable, of course !

kovooraj

11-08-2006, 06:59 PM

double lol to you, mr Kovooraj !!!
not votable, of course !

love to see u all hhave a good sense of humer, and Annatar that ting in the middle of his leg could be anything that u want just use your imagination, i can probably think of 100 inappropriate "objects" that would represent the ting in the middle.

wargrafix

11-08-2006, 07:07 PM

double lol to you, mr Kovooraj !!!
not votable, of course !

You know, I always suspected there was some thing creepy about mickey mouse. Just couldn't figure it out, but now I know....lol

Annatar

11-08-2006, 08:00 PM

New Movie: "Transvestite Tripod Blonde Donkey-kong Does Disney"

Starring:- Patrick Stewart as TTB D-Kong
Eddie Murphy as Donkey
James Gandolfini as Daddy Kong

....
..

Titanium.wombaT

11-08-2006, 08:06 PM

New Movie: "Transvestite Tripod Blonde Donkey-kong Does Disney"

Starring:- Patrick Stewart as TTB D-Kong
Eddie Murphy as Donkey
James Gandolfini as Daddy Kong

....
..

Co-starring William Dafoe!

Annatar

11-08-2006, 08:21 PM

We had better contact some Hollywood movie mogul and get this Project rolling.

$Cha Ching$ you can just hear the money rolling in...

Ohh oohh
Leonardo Di Caprio as "boy who gets flattened and gets stuck to bottom of Kongs foot for remainder of movie"

kovooraj

11-08-2006, 09:28 PM

Josiah

11-08-2006, 11:44 PM

heres my third and last entry (reference was used):

Enjoy :D

http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/3272/kingtu7.png (http://imageshack.us)

kovooraj

12-08-2006, 01:00 AM

wow this is the most ridiculous (not sure about the spelling) thred ever, oh by the way josiah i like the curvy lines on dino and like the kong eyes the rest is F@#@%*$ cheap and u being the one to accuse me of cheating, but consedering the situation i dont really care dude i like ur sence of humor. I guess hitler wasnt counting on blond haired, 1/2 donkey, Transvestite, stubburn descendant of kong to take over the world
AHHHHHHHH its "planet of the ape" except the apes are far more uglyier than the originals.... and they are BLOND no noooooo :dance: :dance:

kirgan

12-08-2006, 01:57 AM

hehehe, josiah, nicely done on the last one....., kovooraj, take it easy mate.

now to the them I liked best.

annatar: very nice, maybe just a bit blurry
mitsui:very very nice, love it.
gek:nicely done.
rap:love the atmosphere and...all. very good joob
versionThrist:emotional, and very good joob with the hills.

sry for my bad english....

kovooraj

12-08-2006, 02:48 AM

hehehe, josiah, nicely done on the last one....., kovooraj, take it easy mate.

srry dude i think i had little too much coffee :crazy:

pasita n_n

12-08-2006, 02:54 AM

:wave: hi everyone, nice works, this is my paint, in photoshop, in like a 5 hours, and with a referenc, well done every one, and have a nice day.

Bye

kovooraj

12-08-2006, 04:01 AM

like ur fur pasita n_n very realistic

artecnl

12-08-2006, 05:35 AM

very nice fur pasita, i like his expression :) ;)

wargrafix

12-08-2006, 07:02 AM

Whoa, nice one pasita

pasita n_n

12-08-2006, 07:42 AM

:o tnx for all you commentaries :shy:

jdgill

13-08-2006, 05:13 AM

Hey, guys...I'm seeing lots and lots of chit chat going on.

Less talking more posting!

visuelle

13-08-2006, 05:37 AM

nice entries so far!
finally my avatar is not alone anymore!

artecnl: love your style. but the colors are a bit strong in your first entry.
(maybe they are too saturated. on the other hand: it might be a bit too
monochromatic... too much green)

Josiah: i´m rather glad that the flame-war stopped, but allow me to mention something. being the curious person i am, i flipped through your online sketchbook. it is obvious that your drawing abilities are nowhere near photorealism.(but hey, we aren´t perfect ether. we are here to learn something!) the image you uploaded to this challenge is a fast drawn but none the less perfect rendition of naturalistic light.
in a nutshell:
you can do what ever you want. but do yourself a favor and stop traycing images. you learn much more without it.

Mitsui: wow! very nice style. a quick sketch, but very dynamic!
hope to see more of your work! grüsse ans dicke B oben an der spree!

crackerlips: i like kongs eyes in this one. his fur is a bit dark.
more details/highlights?

GEK: sweet. good color job. especially the sky.

VersionThirst: we had the same idea! he looks so lonely!

pasita n_n: nice fur. but don´t stop there! ad more detail to the background.(with a colorsceme you could marry foreground and background better)

considering the development of our beloved speedpainting thread, i want to make a suggestion. i think we should start judging the challenge the way the "big" threads on this forum do: you(and your internet friends/alternate accounts) do not vote for other people. judges(the forum moderators) judge all the entries in a fair way! maybe this would end all the trouble.
(at least this would provide a consistent and fair system without having 6 random people each week showing up in here to vote without ever posting anything else.) i really do think this is a serious problem.

anyway:
my speed painting:
contemplating kong.
he is in deep thoughts about his past and his future...
photoshop and wacom intous 3 a5(YES! finally i bought one!!!)
5 h

visuelle

13-08-2006, 07:01 AM

just want to share it.
while the whole painted/trayced thing was going on
i thought i just had to do a funny piece.
to make it clear: this is just the sketch. i intended to render it in freehand.
that would have given it the poster-look i wanted.
but, alas, i ran out of time...
i know i will never finish it, so i post it "as is".

Hunchy

13-08-2006, 12:32 PM

My Votes go to
Milan #90
Artecnl#11
Mitsui#77
Good job all.

waheed nasir

13-08-2006, 02:07 PM

Challenge closed... :*poly: its Voting Time now.

see ya... :wave:.

visuelle

13-08-2006, 03:30 PM

considering the development of our beloved speedpainting thread, i want to make a suggestion. i think we should start judging the challenge the way the "big" threads on this forum do: you(and your internet friends/alternate accounts) do not vote for other people. judges(the forum moderators) judge all the entries in a fair way! maybe this would end all the trouble.
(at least this would provide a consistent and fair system without having 6 random people each week showing up in here to vote without ever posting anything else.) i really do think this is a serious problem.

waheed, could you please reply to this?

Illegal

13-08-2006, 04:59 PM

Great Work Everyone!
Ok, so here are my votes.

1st.GEK - Youre Pencil/Photoshop is awsome. maybye you could do a tutorial, hehe :P
2nd.RAP - The lightning on your kong is great.
3rd.Mitsui - Very nice entry, even for 15 mins.

By the way Waheed.

Cant you make a new challenge while we are voting on this one? xD

and Visuelle, i dont think people do that, at least not those who won so far, and if its a bit worse entry that get many votes you would se it directly. Besides i think moderators or Admins can see the IP nr so no1 would be able to cheat without them seeing it.

visuelle

13-08-2006, 06:40 PM

and Visuelle, i dont think people do that, at least not those who won so far, and if its a bit worse entry that get many votes you would se it directly. Besides i think moderators or Admins can see the IP nr so no1 would be able to cheat without them seeing it.

oh, judging by the temper of some people on here they take all this very serious.
and since you can actually win something, i really do think that people develop the kind of energy you need to cheat...
concerning IP numbers: this is so easy! everyone has friends with computers.
and the ones already studying at a universty could easily use the computers in their computerlabs. not to mention internet cafés...

i just think we need a good and FAIR system for the challenge and i can´t see why we can´t do it like the 3d challenge.
(this week´s challenge proofed to me that people will do what ever it takes to win a stupid texture cd with little value to 2d artists.
and i´m sure that the judging will involve personal opinions on all sides...)

but maybe just the people who enter the challenge should be able to vote? who knows. the best system is allways judge-based.

pasita n_n

13-08-2006, 07:42 PM

:wave: Hi everyone, here are my votes .-

1 Artecnl
2 RAP
3 VersionThirst

Gabriel_Novaes

13-08-2006, 10:01 PM

voting.
1 - rap #36
2 - Mitsui #21
3 - VersionThirst #133

nice works.

wargrafix

13-08-2006, 10:08 PM

Alas another challenge ends. With far more controversy than most, its going to be tough to select.
1)Artecnl
2)Mitsui
3)RAP

With hardly any critique, other than Annatar, I hardly could tell what direction, positive or negative, my piece was heading in.

La Cobra

13-08-2006, 10:12 PM

my vote

1-rap- like the pacefull mood
2-pasita n-n- great fur
3mitsui-nice speed paints

Josiah

14-08-2006, 02:31 AM

Josiah: i´m rather glad that the flame-war stopped, but allow me to mention something. being the curious person i am, i flipped through your online sketchbook. it is obvious that your drawing abilities are nowhere near photorealism.(but hey, we aren´t perfect ether. we are here to learn something!) the image you uploaded to this challenge is a fast drawn but none the less perfect rendition of naturalistic light.
in a nutshell:
you can do what ever you want. but do yourself a favor and stop traycing images. you learn much more without it.

You have no idea how much fun it was to get everyone so riled up :evil:

lol. worth every post :D

Josiah :D

Milan

14-08-2006, 10:43 AM

1- artecnl
2- rap
3- josiah

Kreean

14-08-2006, 12:33 PM

1st RAP
2nd Mitsui
3rd nucron

HM: GEK, artecnl, visuelle

@ visuelle : I support your idea with independent judges, that would make speedpainting more interesting again.

@ Mitsui : Too bad that you could not find anyone to produce the "Orcbabies"

stephendm

14-08-2006, 02:18 PM

1. Gek
2. Artecnl
3. Visuelle

Annatar

14-08-2006, 06:06 PM

1: Rap
2: Gek
3: VersionThirst

Ahh now I can get back to my Hols....

Titanium.wombaT

14-08-2006, 07:38 PM

1. Mitsui {Love it! Incredible composition, colors are fantastic, and the overall mood of the painting is just slick. Bubbles up a desire to see the 10 minutes that follow that frame! :evil: }

2. Gek {One of the best ones I've seen come through these challenges. I love the exhaustion on Kong's face and the death grip that he still holds on rex. Also, thanks for sharing the progression! That was cool to watch it evolve.}

3. Rap {Also pulled it's weight in mood. The soft glow offsets the sheer size of the beast making him seem almost vulnerable. Excellent colors and visual flow. Nice job duder!}

Killer entries guys! Flamewar aside I thought this really showed a good range of styles. So, whats next...?

artecnl

14-08-2006, 08:03 PM

time to voting :D nice challenge guys
1.Mitsui
2.Gek
3.pasita n

im agree with the judge voting thing, but i think its a little bit hard nobody will be happy with the choice, why dont do this, if you make an entry you vote, i think its fair :D

Titanium.wombaT

15-08-2006, 12:24 AM

...if you make an entry you vote, i think its fair :D

I'm all for that. May encourage more entries as well. :roll:

Rico

15-08-2006, 01:10 AM

1. mitsui
2. visuelle
3. artecnl

edit:
hihi josiah, your self-conversation is really funny XD
http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?t=36934&page=17&pp=15

Jarratt

15-08-2006, 02:43 AM

1. mitsui
2. artecnl
3. visuelle

I agree 100% with the comment about non-user judges. Sometimes its completely unbelievable what people will vote for. Obvious cases of multiple user accounts that get ignored.

Josiah

15-08-2006, 02:55 AM

Humuni

15-08-2006, 10:37 AM

1. mitsui
2. gek
3. artecnl

good job all!!

4. Josiah ....Jk JK

Josiah

15-08-2006, 05:35 PM

edit:
hihi josiah, your self-conversation is really funny XD
http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?t=36934&page=17&pp=15
the holy thread revival batman thingy. lol :D

I try.....:smug:

Josiah

wargrafix

15-08-2006, 06:04 PM

I think the panel decision would be a better. Professional analysis versus favoritism is the fairer method.

stephendm

15-08-2006, 10:26 PM

Either would be fine with me (ie...panel of 5 judges...or....only entrants can vote) BUT there are problems with both suggestions....

Who would this panel of judges be? I imagine moderators would be too busy and not online together or might only be interested in their own threads (which is fair enough imo) I don't think that would work unless it came down to just Waheed deciding and even then, I'm sure he has a particular favourite style/technique! Nothing wrong with that but it is his opinion and it would be his decision and might lean towards the same style every time...and there are plenty of different styles in these challenges! Sure, you can appreciate all styles of art but unless Waheed likes ALL styles equally (which is unlikely...everyone has a favourite), I don't think that would be totally fair! That's generally the point of having multiple judges!

Or if it was to be a select few of the painters/posters on this thread who were to be the ones deciding, then they would not be able to enter their own work and might have good relations with other members who have entered and would vote for them above others.
OR
If only entrants can vote, there's nothing stopping the same person from painting two or more pics (and putting very little effort into all entries except one) under different aliases, and use all votes on the better image.

All that said, I don't really think this is a BIG issue at all in these challenges but it clearly happens at least a little bit!

Sure I'll go with the flow with whatever is decided - It's not something that bothers me all that much :) Just thought I'd share my views on the subject.

Thanks :)

artecnl

16-08-2006, 01:27 AM

If only entrants can vote, there's nothing stopping the same person from painting two or more pics (and putting very little effort into all entries except one) under different aliases, and use all votes on the better image.

i think its difficult that can´t recognize the style of a member, its like a signature :P

its nice everyone say ideas of the voting thing

cheers :D

wargrafix

16-08-2006, 04:57 AM

Crackerlips and artecnl have raise critical issues. To prevent nepotism and such from influencing the decision process, a discussion is needed to trash out the issues.
Personally these challenges are alot of fun and great practice for me. As an artist I feel as if I've grown by leaps and bounds in my technique, and hope to do so in the future. This cheating thing must be dealth with or these challenges will lose their value as entertainment and education.

Jarratt

16-08-2006, 06:08 AM

it's not neccesarily the cheating that bothers me, it's having challenges voted on by people who have no artistic background or education. Sure, it's interesting to hear these points of view, but no one wants their work judged by a farmer from Podunk.

wargrafix

16-08-2006, 11:54 AM

LOL. Jarratt, I know exactly what you mean. Its classic knee jerk reaction, some people have to art, thinking its still kid's stuff. Their lack of experience shows when they vote.

stephendm

16-08-2006, 12:18 PM

i think its difficult that can´t recognize the style of a member, its like a signature :P
Maybe your right but I think some people still might try to get away with it regardless or even when nobody is doing as I suggest, people might get suspicious of others with similar styles and a big crazy punch-up would break out ...again (not literally;)) Nyeh probably not. We're heading in the right direction with this anyway

Crackerlips and artecnl have raise critical issues. To prevent nepotism and such from influencing the decision process, a discussion is needed to trash out the issues.
Personally these challenges are alot of fun and great practice for me. As an artist I feel as if I've grown by leaps and bounds in my technique, and hope to do so in the future. This cheating thing must be dealth with or these challenges will lose their value as entertainment and education.
Should we go on as normal for now and open a NEW THREAD for these discussions (until we all come to a mutual decision) so we don't go destroying the challenges for current and new members??

it's not neccesarily the cheating that bothers me, it's having challenges voted on by people who have no artistic background or education. Sure, it's interesting to hear these points of view, but no one wants their work judged by a farmer from Podunk.
What's wrong with Podunk? I know lots of farmer artists from Podunk who are really excellent. They use their cows as canvas and then all the pigs and chickens (also amazing artists) come around and judge all the work when their finished! ;) Not really....I've never heard of Podunk...the bit about the artistic pigs and chickens was true though :D
Seriously though, in fairness Jarratt, if your looking for a place to submit your work where 'professional' artists will see it, your in the wrong place (or the wrong thread at least). There are maybe a few people here who use their artistic skills for a living, as far as I know, but the rest are here for fun & practice.
It would be seriously cool to have Waheed or others with artistic backgrounds/education to judge and comment in detail on the work here but as much as I'd love to be wrong, it ain't gonna happen....
unless you've got something in mind!? Do you?

So what about my NEW THREAD suggestion? Anyone agree/disagree .....let's have a whole discussion in here about that too while were at it! :D

wargrafix

16-08-2006, 01:07 PM

Ah, great wisdom on you part crackerlips! I'm not saying that we shouldn't maintain status quo for the time being to facilitate the challenges. Its just that for long term survival of the challenges an analysis is needed before things fall apart. I agree with the new thread idea. Personally, the cheating was excessive during this round.

Jarratt

16-08-2006, 06:44 PM

"It would be seriously cool to have Waheed or others with artistic backgrounds/education to judge and comment in detail on the work here" -crackerlips

So, in other words, you agree.

I'm sure there are 5 art-minded guys at 3D total who can spare 30 minutes every few weeks to look at a some works. This is a pretty solid site, one of the best around, so please don't usher me elsewhere. You suggest that this thread is for beginners. The reality is beginners need informed opinions more than experts. Even those who are just learning to paint would benefit from advice from people with some sort of artistic education. To simply see what they would vote for would be great.

I'm also not suggesting that we do away with the current voting system. Then we could see a popular vote and a non-partisan judged vote.

Titanium.wombaT

16-08-2006, 08:06 PM

...You suggest that this thread is for beginners. The reality is beginners need informed opinions more than experts. Even those who are just learning to paint would benefit from advice from people with some sort of artistic education. To simply see what they would vote for would be great.

Excellent point. I'm for the experts panel as well and, as a beginning speedpainter, the critique I've seen given on other's paintings has been valuable. If we could get 5 guys doing it, that would resolve the personal taste issue pretty well, or at least mute it enough that it wasn't painful! One request I would have for the experts panel is that they critique every entry. Not each expert doing every entry but each entry getting at least one critique.

The popular vote thing seems cool as well if the admins are willing to continue the count as well as do the expert judging. Also, would that imply 2 prizes awarded per contest? One to the experts choice and one to the popular vote? Just a thunk...

stephendm

16-08-2006, 08:31 PM

Jarratt: Of course I agree - who wouldn't!!.....but you left out a bit:

"but as much as I'd love to be wrong, it ain't gonna happen...." - me :)

If it did happen - yippee-ky-ay :dance:

....but it won't!

...and I'm fully aware of the awesome status of this site - I wasn't ushering you anywhere...the more the merrier - but I'd be fairly confident saying t'aint no 5 art-minded guys at 3dTotal who can spare 30 mins every few weeks (and besides, if they were to comment on everyone's work and do the judging, it would be a lot longer than 30 mins every few weeks....every few days maybe). If there are people out there with this kind of spare time and willingness and you can find 'em, I'll eat my Wacom! :)

I never suggested that this thread was 'just' for beginners though - it's for everyone, obviously (and everyone needs practice, do they not?!)....I said there's very few 'professional' artist members who post in this thread (ie...artists that get paid to be just that) which sounded like the type of people you were originally looking for to comment and judge (if it came down to specific members voting)!

Anyway, it's a marvellous plan and all, and I'm all for it but once again - who, pray tell, is gonna do it??

kirgan

17-08-2006, 02:09 AM

damn this was hard, they had so different styles, I want all three to be on the first place, but here it is the list:

1.VersionThirst
2.Mitsui
3.rap

waheed nasir

18-08-2006, 01:30 PM

regarding the voting procedure, lets see what can be done...just some time needed...:). lets carry on with the current procedure till we get something else.
results and new challenge would be arriving soon. thank u all...:).

wargrafix

19-08-2006, 03:58 AM

Hey waheed, no pressure. We all have faith in the wisdom of the 3dtotal staff. One thing, please make the next challenge an interesting one. This one felt a little like a rehash of the previous one.

waheed nasir

20-08-2006, 01:49 PM

Speed Painting Challenge no. 51.

http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?p=490788#post490788

:).

morpheusman

20-08-2006, 04:27 PM

Well since I can't see it anywhere.....who actually won this comp?? All I can see are lots of votes for different people...........

visuelle

20-08-2006, 06:42 PM

1.mitsui(2nd entry)
2.GEK
3.crackerlips

it´s good to see so many members think about the judging procedure now.
the panel(i don´t know why they should be 5. the 3d challenge is judged by 3? people) is a good idea.
what makes me really sad are the opinions concerning the critiques.
IT´S UP TO US TO GIVE CRITS!

that´s something that always bothers me in this forum. some people just post their stuff and never comment on (at least some of) the other entries.
we have to change that! i know that time is short and we all don´t have enough of it. but if we all crit some of the entries than hopefully everyone will recieve at least one crit.

(i know this happened to everyone: you post something and for the next 2 days you keep checking back for some kind of reaction, good or bad. then the
next 5 guys post their stuff without any crits...
and after the challenge you feel like no one actually saw your painting...
very sad...)