Miezis - Dominance War II

[miezis]

uploaded the turnaround animation:

http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/2360/quicktimein8.jpg (http://www.mediafire.com/?3uymcouzyvo)

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--- FINAL SUBMISIONS ---

IT IS DONE!

already submited all of the entries and here they are for you watching pleasure:

winning pose:
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/9602/winningposegg4.jpg

beauty shot:
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/6311/beautyshot01nj7.jpg

construction shot:
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/7914/constructionzr3.jpg

texture sheet:
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/95/texturesheetep6.jpg

and my crapy outdated concept sheet:
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/3632/conceptsjc9.jpg


---end of transmission---

[Kalango]

organic? where?
*tatatatatatata* ok i killed him...
good luck!

[miezis]

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/641/cyborgconclb6.jpg

i know, it has "cliche" writen all over him, but this is just a starting point for the modeling, i don't want to spend more time on conceptualizing "the coolest cyborg ever, with giant claws and really cool stuff on him...". his further evolution will be in 3d, where i'll be changing the concept a lot an giving him personality.

[miezis]

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/5226/robconceptnx5.jpg

quick 3d sketch, showing the proportions.

[Opul]

Looking good :)

May i ask what program your using to model with? Reminds me of Milkshape for some reason!

[miezis]

no, its 3ds max :)

[Opul]

Ace, sorry the color scheme just reminded me of it for some reason.

Keep adapting to your robot tho! Can see it being modified rather heavily ;)

[ThatDon]

milkshape 3d had that god awful ugly baby blue for default background [face_puke]

[miezis]

hehe, i use the blue-ish background because i model in grey matherial, nice way to see what i am doing.

[miezis]

i had a fealing that i was working in thin air, and the ideas didn't come to me on the fly, so i decided to draw a little more solid concept. here it is. experimented with color scheme aswell... but i'm not shure about that. but atleast now i have a much clearer picture what to do.

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/1718/dominanceconceptzg0.jpg

[RickStefani]

I am bored so let ME JUST CRAP OUT A MASTER PIECE. Very nice style. I love the direction.

[miezis]

Rick, nice way of sayin' it :D :D :D , thanks!

[TheWinterLord]

That rocks! Let me tell you that we need you showing yourself on the battlefield! Qucik go register your thumbnail at dominance war.com!

[miezis]

oh, right! thanks for the guide, didn't know that i had to register somewhere else :\ how long is the aproval time there by the way?

[BiG ToE-3DT]

I like the way this is going, but you might want to take a look at this: http://www.dominancewar.com/1/finals/team_1/12_Fantome.htm, it looks like the female version of yours.

[miezis]

crap! :( i see what you mean! i guess both of us were looking in the direction of ancient greece for inspiration... but still i think that my entry will differ from that you've given, for my char will be more of a "[mecha]hoplite from hell", than a mere banner carrier :P.
cool work from Fantom though!

[Kalango]

yeah its way better, the greek helm is just cool :)

[miezis]

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/9451/torsomx9.jpg

started to model. i'm going to create a hi-poly model first for normal maps and when it's ready i'll do the low poly one. this is a torso, next i'll do the arms and the head.

[Torokun]

Coming along very nicely!

Are you sure you can do that level of detailed work for 6,000 polys with all the separate parts like that?

[miezis]

well yeah, it won't be shining through that much as it is now. and normals map will help a lot. by the way i won't be wasting poligons on face, for i'll have a helmet for it.

[bRuDe]

This whole idea is quite cool, and its lookin nice.

[Ghosty!]

hey you wanna send us some poly counts while your at it :)

sweet modelling btw.

[FistOfGod]

Modeling is looking pretty nice man. All of those details should look pretty damn cool when the high poly model is finished. I'll have to keep my eyes on this thread, keep us posted!

Waylon

[miezis]

thanks guys, the poligon count doesn't mater for now Ghosty, as this is a hi detail model for the normal maps.
started to do arms yesterday
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/6417/armsii7.jpg
but now i'm down with flu and my head hurts A LOT! so no modeling for now :(

[Kalango]

wooow nice mesh so far, loved the details...

[Ghost-D]

thanks guys, the poligon count doesn't mater for now Ghosty, as this is a hi detail model for the normal maps.
started to do arms yesterday
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/6417/armsii7.jpg
but now i'm down with flu and my head hurts A LOT! so no modeling for now :(

Can I just have a question? How are you going to make it lowpoly?

I mean, how do you know which edges to collaps and which vertices to weld to keep the same result with normal map?

Btw. the model looks really cool....

[Agent-X]

Keep up the good work. Looking Awesome! Go team 3D Total!

John Inman
Agent-X

[miezis]

ok, i'm back on the track. stupid flu kept me away from the pc for a week!!! started to make the head and continued to model hand.
Gost-D low poly version has to follow as close as possible to the hi poly one. can't put it any better.

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/1098/headgj0.jpg

[ryvick]

nice, i like the huge chest, its soo arrogant looking. you know someone is going down when this guy jumps in the war.

[0202742]

Very cool model, keep it up looking forward to the end result.

[miezis]

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/8360/legsrb6.jpg

ok, after battling immense amount of lazyness [and other cirucumstances beyond my powers] i'm back in line. making legs now and the model will soon be done i guess. 12 days remaining - easy.... :)

[Klash120]

You can do iiiiittt! I too have been battling with said Lazy. It's a tough enemy to beat ;p Gotta turn it up a notch on my side now. Awesome legs so far. Can't wait to see it all assembled. Started on lowpolying yet?

[miezis]

http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/2056/robotdude2rdz6.jpg

yes, i can!
hopefully i'll start low poly tomorrow! as you can see i decided to redo the arms an the torso :), nice idea, huh?

[ryvick]

i loved the previous torso, maybe just cause it was so nicely defined. but great progress on the legs still.

[miezis]

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/2393/robotdude3ln0.jpg

felt tempted to render it with GI, you can also see some progress on the hand and on the new remodeled torso. i'll bake in the gi pas in the diffuse texture later on.

[miezis]

ok, modeling is almos done. needs some touchups here and there and i'll be ready to go low poly and normal map it.

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/6617/robotdude4sz4.jpg

[miezis]

ok, it's me again. quick painover in photoshop - trying to find a correct color mood.

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/1337/commanderrx7.jpg

[0202742]

Really nice work, i had not noticed you before, well done! I am not so keen on the colour scheme as i think the metalic red reminds me of a toy tin robot. Try some other colours i think to make it look more intimidating and less like a tin robot. Keep it up and get it done on time. Looking forward to seeing some weaponry.

[Kalango]

wow man looking cool and shiny :) way cool :)

[miezis]

here's the low poly one i made yesterday. guys i don't know how you manage to pull of your extra complicated models in those 6k polys. it took me quite a while to reduce it to that amount.
he isn't rigged and doesn't have uv for now - but soooooon his time will come. :)

0202742: i took a look at another monitor and now i know what you meen - colors look waaay to toyish, i'll definately change that.
Kalango: thanks :) i too like shiny stuff!

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/2938/lowpolyyh1.jpg

[0202742]

Very good silhouette, well optimized, i am sure it will look great with a normal map.

[miezis]

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/7389/normals1qc7.jpg
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/2072/normals2gd8.jpg

and a small version of normal map
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/143/normalmaphp4.jpg


so, the modeling and normaling this model is finaly done, and i'm quite happy with normal map work. up next rigging and texturing. does anyone know any good and quick rigging tutorial - that's the part i dont know well about this whole 3d stuff. :)

[BiG ToE-3DT]

not sure of any quick rigging tuts, but when it comes to your see threw wire frame, it's too busy. Do you have a none-see threw option?

[0202742]

If you are using max make a clone of your model and add a lattice modifier to it, make the texture for the cloned model self illuminating, render and you have a good wireframe image. Either that or use a multi layer shader and have the top layer display wireframe. Normal mapped model looks great by the way, look forward to seeing the texturing, if you do not have a good understanding of rigging i would spare plenty of time for this stage as it takes quite a while to learn and get used to, not to mention the evil skinning stage. Best place to learn it is your programs tutorials or user reference methinks.

[BiG ToE-3DT]

no need to render out wireframes when showing your wips, screengrabs do the job. Plus they take less time to make.

[miezis]

thanks guys for the tips, i'll definately try out things that 0202742 advised about wireframe. regarding rigging - i think i'll make a simple sceleton with some IKs and screw around with that a bit longer than go and learn rigging ir 3 days :)

by the way, any rules about using pre-made rigs? lilke free rigs around the web? couldn't find any rule regarding rigs.

and here's yet another coloring experiment in ps. i'll texture my model during this weekend.

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/1927/colorsne4.jpg

[0202742]

Much prefer this colour scheme good job.

[BiG ToE-3DT]

you can rigg your model anyway you want. It's all good.

[Kalango]

Loooking very cool man! loved that texture....

[bRuDe]

aye, i like the way this scheme's going also. The last colour scheme reminded me a bit to much of an old Iron Man feel;)
lookin cool!

[miezis]

thanks for support guys!
and here it is fuly textured model, plus some simple pose with which i think i'll stay. spent all saturday workin on it and i'm happy with the result. now all i have to do is make a weapon and a stand and i'll be ready for WAR! :)
tell me what you think.

rendered with scanline with no advanced lightning, with two lights in the scene [one warm light yellow keylight and one blueish backlight]

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/3827/posebp0.jpg

all textures are 2048 made in photoshop.
texture sheet:

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/8724/texturesheetje8.jpg

and a wireframe here:
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/4640/finishedtexturingpolysko2.jpg

[ez5k]

i like result, it's really nice!

[0202742]

Great stuff, looks fantastic.

[Kalango]

Way cool man, i think the most impressive is the quality of the specular and normal maps, what will be his weapon?

[momoko]

Very clean and nice. :) Great work. :)
I like this silver, gold and dark color combination.

[miezis]

ahh, yes, the weapon...
here it is :) made it yesterday, textures are only half way done [almost no specular and absolutely no glow map yet], but i think i'll finish them today.

it's meant to be part shield generator, part dagger, part pulse cannon, part blunt force jaw crusher :). the weaponyness will be more obvious when i add glow maps. the main reason i made it that way, is because it complements his form and adds to the character. i didn't want to make another unimaginative cannon that looks like beefed up ak-47. so i came up with this shape.

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/8183/poseweaponms8.jpg

and the weapon by itself
http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/6493/weaponshadeyf7.jpg

[0202742]

They look great and really compliment the model. Kinda gives me the impression it is a zulu or aboriginal machine now, which is really cool.

[DrunkenPuppy]

Nice work! very clean, very solid work my friend :)

[shadowbreeze]

man those weapons are fantastic great work.

[Klash120]

Yes! Awesome stuff!

[Kalango]

Awesome stuff indeed! looking kickass that sword!

[shinja]

Holy cow... awesome weapon...

suits the character well. ! WD

[Agent-X]

Very cool modeling and texturing. I love it. This whole competition is freaking amazing. Great work from everyone. And yeah I agree with Shinja those weapons deffinately suit the character. Great work bro. Keep it up. :)

[taehoon]

How did you render this great looking image.? Maya.? Mental ray.? or just simple 3 light setting on maya software render.? I wonder.? great.

[gridlinked]

Excellent stuff, love that weapon!

[miezis]

we are machines, the omega of your existance
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/4930/winingpose3sidesgs6.jpg

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i think i'm gona call it done, any crits? i don't want to go and overdo it as i usually do. finished texturing the weapon and created a glossy map to both character and weapon that now give them that sweet metalic look.

0202742: thanks - that's actually pretty good idea about the aboriginal machine! but i don't think i have the time to go and accent that anymore
DrunkenPuppy, shadowbreeze, Klash120, Kalango, shinja, Agent-X, gridlinked:THAAAANK YOU! :)
taehoon: no, it's 3dsmax all the way. default scanline renderer with two omni lights, that act as a keylight [light yellowish + shadowmap] and backlight [blueish - no shadows]. they act as a classical three point lightning [except that there are only 2 in my case :)]. if you don't know what a 3 point lightning is go here and don't come back untill you read it all: http://www.internetcampus.com/tvp031.htm

[killadee]

lookin hot! :) great work.

[gridlinked]

Like i said, excellent! That stand is also both effective and attractive.

[miezis]

killadee: domo danko! :)
gridlinked: yes, exactly - i'm old fasioned i guess, but i think that the stand has to be... well... a stand, and not a completely designed level/scene. this isn't a stand contest people - this is a character contest.

[bRuDe]

beautiful work mate, looks quite nice!

[Kalango]

*curse words* great man! great in every meanings!

[miezis]

IT IS DONE!
already submited all of the entries and here they are for you watching pleasure:

winning pose:
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/9602/winningposegg4.jpg

beauty shot:
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/6311/beautyshot01nj7.jpg

construction shot:
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/7914/constructionzr3.jpg

texture sheet:
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/95/texturesheetep6.jpg

and my crapy outdated concept sheet:
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/3632/conceptsjc9.jpg

[0202742]

A job well done dude i am extremely impresed. The stand is simple but it really suits your model. The quality of work this year is outstanding.

[shinja]

Hey man congrats on finishing. You seem to be the first to finish, with a good touch.
Its some very nice work. Well done and good luck man. :)

Out of curiousity. When you submit your entry. Do you just post the required images on your thread ? Or you submit it and sent it to someone else ?

I know its a dumb question but i dont know how it works, cause it does not say on the submission page.

[miezis]

0202742: thanks yet again.
shinja: well, yeah i timed it so i could make it in the 19th march, but since the compeetition was extended for another week i took my time to polish it a bit.
you submit your work by going to your entry page - the one you visited when created your thumbnail. then click on "join now" or "edit entry" [depends weather you've logged in on the game artisans page (it'll guide you there if you haven't)] and the just upload your images one by one and click submit at the bottom.

the entry page by the way: http://www.gameartisans.org/contests/events/1/team4/view_entries_1.html

[BiG ToE-3DT]

Great Job, you did 3DTotal/Threedy proud. Hope to see you in the mini low poly comps threedy has monthly.

[miezis]

thanks dude! :)

by the way i have turnaround animation at home, so if there are people with some space and bandwidth to spare, i'd be happy to showcase that as well :)
give me a PM or post right here if there are such peoples.

[BiG ToE-3DT]

well, for the speed animation comps, people upload to:

http://www.mediafire.com/
www.megaupload.com

I would use the mediafire, its easy, and the downloads start right away, mostsites have a 30-20 second wait.

[gridlinked]

Congrats for finishing Miezis, outstanding work! :wave:

[taehoon]

Congrat for finishing this one. it's really great work ..... Wow..

No more sleepless nights huh.? I love your beauty shot......

[miezis]

uploaded the turnaround animation:

http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/2360/quicktimein8.jpg (http://www.mediafire.com/?3uymcouzyvo)