george.vas - Dominance WAR II

[george.vas]

Mantodea

This is supposed to be a quick strike sneak attack assassin unit that can also double as a reconnaissance. It can leap great distances do to powerful hind legs and wings that help it glide. It’s main attack is a lighting fast impaling strike. It’s lower fuselage is interchangeable to suit what ever type of mission it is going on. For instance if it was equipped with a reconnaissance attachment it would have larger wings and extra fuel cells and a stronger hydraulics chip for the back legs so that it could travel further distances. The assassin attachment version has a built in self destruct nuclear bomb for suicide runs. The weakness of this unit is it’s a terrible melee unit do to light armor. To make up for this it is equipped with a cloaking antenna that makes them virtually invisible when not moving. Besides reconnaissance missions they usually travel in packs of ten and are known for being masters of ambushing.

winning pose
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/3261/mantodeawinningposechx1.jpg


beauty shot
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/804/mantodeabeautyshotcpo3.jpg


construction sheet
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/2480/mantodeaconstructionsczu3.jpg


texture sheet
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/9141/mantodeatexturesheetcnb1.jpg


concept sheet
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/8977/mantodeaconceptsheetcrw3.jpg




http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/447/legpe4.jpg (http://www.gamingartist.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=43)

[george.vas]

Concept Art Dump...

(latest)
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9239/kjkjjz6.jpg

(previous)
http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/8118/untitled1wt1.jpg

[george.vas]

Here is the low res version of the main torso ( 1000 tris ). I am shooting for 5k total and then I will go back with the final 1K to add additional detailed final touches. I will make the high res version of each piece once all the low res versions are complete.

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/4200/untitled1vw4.jpg

[mim]

Hey well come george to the battle! :wave:
nice concept n progress sofar, goodluck for "RA" team too! ;)
Cya, mim, :)

[0202742]

Great looking concept, love mantids, keep up the good work.

[nacire]

Nice to see you in here Vas! Good luck man. :dance:

[george.vas]

Thanks all..

Updated: (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?t=49764) Added low res version of the arms ( 500 tris each ). I will be using an alfa for the saw teeth, have plains in their place till then.

http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/7659/prolu8.jpg

[0202742]

From the concepts i do not believe this has any ranged weapons, which lets it down i think, i suggest using the extra 1k we have for weapons to change this so it has more than two forms of attack. Think how dangerous it would be in an ambush situation with guns, people would not see it and would walk straight into it's line of view. Looks great so far keep it up.

[dhin]

Maybe a gun at the end to the blade, so when the arms are back it can shoot with them. . . or make the blade swords and add hands so a gun could be used. . . Either way, I still really like where you are going with this one George, even without a ranged attack.

[Buzzy]

I can't really say I'm much of a fan of the whole big bug thing...especially since it so closely resembles a real bug. I think you should change the head to dull-down the close resemlence... plus the mantis head looks a little silly to me (I find mantises in general to be rather silly-looking creatures)

But, I do really dig where you're going with the model so far. Its shaping up rather nicely

[george.vas]

Thanks for the encouragement. As for the gun thing I wanted to steer away from anything BFG style as I have plans for a possible rocket launcher on its back for long range. I am also figuring on adding some sort of spore on the redesign of the head that sprays acid and for short range attack to compound the scythes. For medium range I will probably do laser eyes or a laser shoulder mount. If you look at the knees you will see an opening that I shaded in yellow. This is another mid range attack dual flame throwers! Hehe… :D

Updated: (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?t=49764) Added low res version of the front legs ( 500 tris each ).

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/3244/prolu8kl8.jpg

[george.vas]

Updated: (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?t=49764) Added low res version of attachment fuselage ( 500 tris total ).

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/4836/prolu8kl8fh6.jpg

[george.vas]

Updated: (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?t=49764) Added low res version of back legs ( 500 tris each ).

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/8459/prolu8kl8fh6he9.jpg

[george.vas]

Updated: (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?t=49764) Added latest concept. Still tweaking the head but I like it much better than my first one. ;)

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9239/kjkjjz6.jpg

[george.vas]

Updated: (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?t=49764) Added low res version of head ( 500 tris total ).

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/9348/renderheadlt6.jpg

[Buzzy]

Yeah, now that head is much better. You could still tweak it some and push the proportions more. Maybe get the "hair" part bigger....think Vegeta from Dragon Ball. Vertical mouths are generally not recommended.... they usually end up strongly resembling a certain female body part.

This character is shaping up very nicely. Now lets see some textures.

[george.vas]

Thanks, I appreciate the feedback. I really need to make a model sheet there is so much about my character that needs explanation. The hair is actually not hair most of the head is metal and that rear part is more of an antenna which helps it go camouflage. There is also a glass part of an opening that will show either a brain or matrix style script still debating on that.

LOL, the minute you said what you said about vertical mouths now all I can do is think that’s what it looks like… haha… It’s actually not a vertical mouth though it’s really two tubes that get larger as then move down. Think Star Wars Tie Fighter Pilotish. I can see how you would think that though my drawing is pretty rough. I still got two more parts to model before I UV map and then I have to make the highres version before I start texturing but I might texture as I complete each normal map. Still trying to figure out my color palette, this is where I think I want to go with it.

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/5938/colpalnl9.jpg

[george.vas]

Updated: (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?t=49764) 5,000 tris. Will be adding a shoulder laser mount and a rear nuclear missile launcher then finishing touches in any areas that need it with the rest of the 1K. Then onto UV mapping. Should be starting the High Res Version soon.

http://img458.imageshack.us/img458/6518/lr4nj1.jpg

http://img458.imageshack.us/img458/6185/lr3wt6.jpg

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/4631/lr2aq9.jpg

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/3982/lr1cw6.jpg

[gridlinked]

Some great work, keep it up! :)

[george.vas]

Updated: (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?t=49764) Will be using a Combination of Maya, Zbrush and Nvidia for my Normal Map. Here is a small update... will have more later. Slowed down to take care of some other things but will be back at full speed soon....

(parts in gray have been ZBed)
http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/3484/mantodeamr5.jpg

[george.vas]

Updated: (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?t=49764) Another small update... highres head complete moving onto body... Took care of the other things that took priority over this so now I can focus on this and finish it. Expect to see many frequent updates from this point on. ;)

(Final in game head - no texture maps added yet just vert lighting and normal map)
http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/9386/manheadky3.jpg

[george.vas]

Updated: (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?t=49764) Torso normal mapped moving on...

(In game torso - no texture maps added yet just vert lighting and normal map)
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/1374/postfinalwm7.jpg

[0202742]

I love the way this is going, being perfectly honest the details look like they have no use to the machine but look good anyway. Low poly looks nicely optimized and the whole model looks great, especially when looking at it in whole. Looks like a mean polycount eating mofo.

[george.vas]

Thanks I appreciate the feedback. I agree with you 100% details really do look rather purposeless right now. There is actually some function to them all but I don’t think they will be apparent till I actually color this and then still some of the things might not really be understandable. However I was trying to go for a more unorthodox look for this because we tend to fear things we know less about and I wanted that kind of mood for this. If I can get this done with one day to spare I will do a full blown out character sheet explaining everything for anyone who is interested. Hopefully I can finish up the normal mapping soon and start coloring. Cheers!

[0202742]

I totally agree with you the unorthadox look will instill more fear into the enemy, i would love to see this character sheet if you get it done on time, add it to this thread after the comp if you can't get it done on time as i for one would be most interested to see it. Good luck with the colouring, any idea what colour scheme you are going to go for yet?

[george.vas]

Updated: (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?t=49764) Arms and attachment normal mapped moving on...

(In game - no texture maps added yet just vert lighting and normal map)
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/1200/post1os2.jpg

(In game - no texture maps added yet just vert lighting and normal map)
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/7261/post2cc4.jpg

@ 0202742
Here is the color pallet I have been playing around with.
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/5938/colpalnl9.jpg

But now I think I may be going a little darker with maybe green camouflage and purple black light for the soul energy.

[0202742]

Looking good keep it up.

[george.vas]

Updated: (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?t=49764) Normal mapping complete moving on to texture maps...

(In game - no texture maps added yet just vert lighting and normal map)
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/7792/post1rf9.jpg

(In game - no texture maps added yet just vert lighting and normal map)
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/1228/post2nc4.jpg

[0202742]

Normal map looks great well done. I would like to see some yellow in the colour map if that is possible.

[DDS]

I think this is looking good. Why not making an extensive use of all the colors of the palette though? :)

[george.vas]

Updated: (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?t=49764) Just wanted to show where I am currently at with the color map before I grab something to eat and get back on this. Not my best texture work cause I am kind of rushing it but ehh it’s not terrible. I am going with a camouflage look which is harder to pull off than I thought but I love the challenge. I am sure when once I make my other maps things will blend much better. Spirit energy is looking pretty sweet though and I have not added an incandescence map to it yet so that’s one positive thing, hehe…

(In game - vert lighting, normal map and wip color map)
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/7446/post1rq6.jpg

@ 0202742
There is some hints of yellow in the camouflage but not much.

@ DDS
The past images I posted were without any color maps just colored shaders for me to get an idea of where I wanted to go with it. I’ll be making much more extensive use now as I am sure you will see. ;)

[gridlinked]

Yep, it's looking very cool! :)

[george.vas]

Updated: (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?t=49764) Not sure which one of these I want to use for the winning pose. What ever I don't use I will use in my beauty render. I like the action ones ( A. and B. ) because they have real presence but I like the praying ones ( C. and D. ) because they are so creepy. Blahhh back to texturing... *cracks wip*

( action pose test A. and B. )
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/6875/post1wr7.jpg

( pray pose test C. and D. )
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/8523/post2jy6.jpg

[george.vas]

Updated: (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?t=49764) Turned in on time with a few minutes to spare... hehe.. I like cutting it close. ;)



winning pose
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/3261/mantodeawinningposechx1.jpg


beauty shot
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/804/mantodeabeautyshotcpo3.jpg


construction sheet
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/2480/mantodeaconstructionsczu3.jpg


texture sheet
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/9141/mantodeatexturesheetcnb1.jpg


concept sheet
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/8977/mantodeaconceptsheetcrw3.jpg

[george.vas]

Thanks for the support this was a fun side project for me. I wish 3Dtotal all the best in the competition. You all have some really nice entries that my general would be honored to go into battle with. ;)

[Torokun]

Good job finishing up!

I can tell you reall put your effort into this contest!

[george.vas]

Thanks, I tired my best to give it my all. Had to balance allot of other things that were going on but overall my results were acceptable. It definitely was a time management challenge. There were a lot of great entries on here that were positive motivators for me, including Team Bigun. ;)

[george.vas]

Monday is the BIG day.. wish you all the best goooo 3DT! :dance:

[george.vas]

3DT General: Yes we heard the results of the Dominace War are postponed till May 7th.

Guy from other forum: Um so why are you sticking around? Are you looking to start some trouble?

3DT General: No, I have no such orders. I am here, just taking a stroll, stretching my legs...

[pauses and looks back]

3DT General: Oh them back there, they are my 300 personal bodyguards.

Guy from other forum: This is Dominance War madness!

3DT General: Thisss Isss ThreedySpaaaartaaaa!!!?!!!

http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/7927/3dtspartavf7.jpg

[0202742]

Lol, nice take on 300. Waiting for the DW websight to open again fully and anounce winners is enough to drive a person or a machine insane.