300

[Josiah]

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Simply the most amazing movie I have seen in forever. Think Gladiator, LotR, Troy, and the Matrix all mixed into ONE HUGE MOVIE EXPERIENCE!

This will blow your mind.... Amazing art direction. Amazing Cinematography. Amazing, choreography. Amazing movie.

10/10

Josiah

[USED]

I would have to agree!!!!!!!!!!
really EVERYONE GO SEE THIS MOVIE

[mim]

I didn't saw the film myself yet, but I heard bad news about it! Something like historic permutations on story, unfortunatly! :dunno:

mim,

[M_Cederstrom]

man I just seen this move to day :dance: , dude thus move kicks A**. For me this has to be the best move i have ever seen. It has every element that a movie should have and more. really if you haven't seen it you need too.

[novoAlias]

Watching it now :)

Mim, movies are rarely accurate. And war movies less so, just because a movie isn't based totally on fact does not make it bad. The story is still good even if the setting is a little untruthful :p

[defaultalias]

aw man, i remember back when i was a kid, my dad used to tell me this story before bedtime!

the movie was just amazing. my favorite thing about the movie was the spirit and comradery between the Spartans. and the way they fought!

10/10

[gfx.KhronoS]

I saw it too.... i have to say that it`s a breath-taking movie.... I LOVE IT !!!
Watch it 3 times already :D
The storyline, the acting, the effects are amazing :drool:
100/10 :D

[CarNut]

Watching it now :)

Mim, movies are rarely accurate. And war movies less so, just because a movie isn't based totally on fact does not make it bad. The story is still good even if the setting is a little untruthful :p

And seeing as this wasn't based on history but on a comic book fantasy-reinterpretation of the battle, it would be even less accurate than normal.

[migelowsky]

I think they won't show it in Iran Mim, I haven't seen it, but
it's just fun, not a documentary, and always will be
people upset.
With Apocalypto was the same, some Maya descendents were upset
also because their culture was not well represented on the film,some the Jews hated The Passion of the Christ and so on.
I really want to go see it =), bye the way, has anybody seen this "pathfinder"?
It also seems interesting (http://www.pathfinderthemovie.com/)

[neolith]

Ohhh...absolutely everyone around here liked this movie.Which means i have to see it asap :p

[Josiah]

Ohhh...absolutely everyone around here liked this movie.Which means i have to see it asap :p

YES! You go right now! :smug:

MIM: Dude. Don't worry about it. It is based on a comic book. Not made to be historical like braveheart or anything....

So go, and just enjoy it for the shear amazing movie experience!

I feel like such a loser because I have only seen it once. lol - Josiah

[PooLatka]

so... yea... how about that oracle, eh?

[mim]

Probably you all are right! And although I have to see film just before any commenting on it! . . . But:

first:
as a common viewer (specially a Persian one!) I can’t like it really! :D Cause it allude clearly to some huge nations n cultures on world history n even using a true historic story but with untruth things on it! :dunno:
We have a anecdote here that says “something totally lie is much times better than a blend of lie n truth!”

Then:
But as a ppl on cg industry or a cg fan atleast, I just have to agree! It’s a “Next step” on filmmaking! One of the rare films on IMAX! And many different in many aspects to other films sofar! It is really holy**** thing when you know whole movie shoot took only 60 days!!! Just awesome! :grr: :grr: :D
Here is some info about the movie I saw on the net (really intresting infos!):
Link (http://www.ballergoods.com/home/2007/3/12/300-creating-the-visual-effects.html)
The movie took only 60 days to shoot and was done on a green screen in Montreal. For the actors to get in shape for the movie they went through very rigorous training for 6 weeks before shooting started. Post production took almost a year and took 10 visual effects companies from three different continents. It was edited entirely with Avid and Final Cut Pro. All the 3D effects were done in Maya, XSI, and Lightwave. The 2D effects were done with Shake, Inferno, Fusion, and Combustion. All of the color management was done with Truelight software. Another interesting fact is that most of the film was shot at 50fps to 150fps. This is much higher than most films. The film was transferred to HD SR tape and Quicktime, with Quicktime being used for the HD preview cuts. Macs were preferred by the filmmakers of 300. Even though Final Cut Pro was not the main editing software used for 300 it was preferred over Avid. Shake was also the main program used for the 2D effects and Quicktime HD was the choice for movie previews. The main visual effects team that worked on 300 said that they used 15 G5's for creating all of the visual effects, and ended up using 16 terabytes of disc space for the entire project.
The film was never meant to be historically correct. They changed some details to make it more of an action movie. (Info from IMDB)
So anyway as a cg artist I have to see it too, even while hating unfair look of that!! :cry: :D But seems I can’t see it yet! :( guess they can’t show that here! I heard that Greece prohibited showin it also at first! :dunno:

n sorry about long post!, mim, :)

[beacon1]

Its a great film, i saw the movie twice. I love the fighting choreography, its awesome. Don't worry about the historical accuracy, Zach Snider did mention that they changed it a bit so that it will look cool on the big screen, like adding some more monsters and it is based on a graphic novel. However if they did make it historically accurate i think its still going to be a great movie.

[mim]

Hmm, I saw it at last! N it’s not too bad as I heard about really! (Although not according to what happened in the history at all!) N also not too good as you guys said here!
It’s not a “next step” really thought! It can’t touch limits of many other films even! Movies like Lord of the rings or/n matrix etc! It was just a medium film in my look!
Although maybe in screening dimensions n quality it’s an exception! I didn’t saw it on IMAX n really can’t imagine how hell would seen that action scenes when screen almost surround you with a loud high quality sound! But it’s on entertainment side! Not on the art side of this movie! Dunno! :dunno:
One of the most problems of movie in my look was that, some of the battle scenes weren’t believable at all, yak yak …! :haha:, anyway worth to saw yet! (just in an IMAX theater!! ;))

Mim, :)

[Ferry P]

Oh man...me cannot wait.
I'm seeing this flick the day after tomorrow.

The art of this movie is just freakin' breathtaking

[shikav4]

Yeah people. I've got to agree with you. Its a great movie. Its surely gonna stand for the Oscars in SFX this year. I'm sure of it................

[Glottis]

then why the long line of dots? :P


all i can say about the movie is: holy mother of abs!

barelynaked men with abs that could crush a mountain

abs abs abs


... made me seriously wanna start working out again.. just to see if those abs were actually possible in real life, or if they were digitally mastered.

[Novak]

I gonna see the movie this weekend, probably I gonna like it. The trailer looks awesome.


Greetz,
Novak

[Ferry P]

"it's not my whip they fear...."


WHahaha...i couldn't help laughing out loud when he said that

[Honki]

You LOLed.

[Ferry P]

I almost ROFLed aswell, if the floor wasn't scattered with popcorn

[agony]

the is the worst night for me ever, and the reason is that I watched 300.
Bad dialogs
Bad Actors
Bad effects
BAD Narrator
bad Ideas
the only good thing in the film was the oracle, and huge amount of ROFling.

[neolith]

hmmm...I still haven't seen it,but it'd better have something more than good CG in it.I'll give it a go these days...

[Josiah]

the is the worst night for me ever, and the reason is that I watched 300.
Bad dialogs
Bad Actors
Bad effects
BAD Narrator
bad Ideas
the only good thing in the film was the oracle, and huge amount of ROFling.


Hmmmm. I don't know what movie you saw......But I can guaranty that it was not 300!

-Josiah

[Knut]

What on earth was wrong with the narrator? And the other stuff for that matter. It's a fantasy movie not a documentary for christs sake.

[Novak]

I have seen it this weekend. And I must agree with Josiah. I Just like the movie.
It's just awesome.. So I Decently Agree With Josiah and Knut.

Greetz,
Novak

[agony]

the wrong thing in the narrator was in every thing he says, every thing they do he said, "Leonidas was moving to the right, then he moved to the left" I mean we can see this why are he telling us that.

[inveni0]

I haven't seen the movie...but I have to ask, "Why are he telling us that." hehehe....that's so wrong in so many laughable ways.

[Knut]

the wrong thing in the narrator was in every thing he says, every thing they do he said, "Leonidas was moving to the right, then he moved to the left" I mean we can see this why are he telling us that.

I've seen it 3 times, the narrator says no such things.

[Mr.T]

I liked the movie aswell, I was really scared to see a visual effects show
because nowadays too many movies do that with a poor scenario.
But in the end it was a great movie, this is not my favorite but I could
see that one few times more :)

Huh.. and the abs thing.. well I have to admit it was somehow ridiculous
the fact that all those shaved bodies were supposed to be warriors..
and I was also upset thinking about my one pack..
need to get back to work at the gym damnit! lol

[agony]

I've seen it 3 times, the narrator says no such things.
not in the exact words, but the Idea is true, for example when he through away his shield and helmet. the narrator said " he through his helmet because it was ......, he through his shield because it was too heavy"

then after a minute the narrator said the same thing with an explanation, I mean who cant see why Leonidas did this? why telling us TWICE this thing that we have saw?

and for the abs it was weird that all the men in the movie have quite the same abs.

[Corth]

Ok, I'm an IMAX projectionsist, so I have to watch this movie at least twice a day. The narrator does not repeat everything, it's only in that last part. At first when he's taking off his helmet it gives you a sense of WTF is he doing, don't submit! Then the shield goes down. The narrator doesn't give you all the information at first to give a feeling of suspense. If you don't get that, then maybe movies like this arn't your thing, and you should go see firehouse dog or something.

As for that Ab's comment, they all have the same? odd that they look different to me. They may look similar, but hey, their all human right?

I love this movie, and seeing it a billion times doesn't change my stance :)

[agony]

any way I think if the narrator was removed it would be a bettter movie, not actually that much better, but at least it would do good.
I think that 300 was a movie about men screaming and fighting, and I dont like that kind of movies. thats all.

[inveni0]

I think this movie was very different than a typical movie, and I think that the styles clashed a bit in parts. You had to keep reminding yourself that it is fantasy, and nothing more. It is written as myth and told as legend.

I thought it was good, but the aftereffects (dust in the air, the skies, etc) were a bit too much.

But I understand the idea. It was supposed to be a story told as legend, so the fantasy aspect had to be there.

[Honki]

I liked the fight scenes, but I thought the rest of it was a bit maggie.
Mind you, I'm not really a fan of these converted comic book movies.

[neolith]

It was a movie with blood and special effects.That's not exactly art :p

[Knut]

It was a movie with blood and special effects.That's not exactly art :p

Computer graphics isn't art?

[Honki]

Tell him Knut.
Get stuck into him bro.

[neolith]

Ooops,i meant the movie was no art 'cause it was just a movie where special effects are meant to save the poor quality of everything else.Of course CG is art,but a movie should always have more than this.

[inveni0]

Uhhh...neo........they DO have more. That's what the bare breasts are for.

[Honki]

I love 'em.

Love 'em to bits.

[neolith]

Yeah,that's what kept me watching it to the end.You gotta love nipples!

[inveni0]

Seeing nipples is like finding M&Ms between the sofa cushion: They always look good enough to eat.

[Knut]

Yeah,that's what kept me watching it to the end.You gotta love nipples!

Hope you're not refering to Leonidas' nipples.

And another point I'd like to point out is that a lot of people who like mindless games whine about the movie being mindless. Now I don't know if you like games like say CS, UT, Half Life, Doom, or WoW for that matter, but what's different from playing a mindless but graphically impressive game and watching a mindless and graphically impressive movie? It's like saying "wow that warrior model sure is cool, must've taken a lot of time to do!" and the next minute say "300 was lame because it's such a big movie I expected more serious love and politics stuff I mean that's like every other war movie and anything else is just stupid"

[Freespace-3DT]

This movie DID have more than visual effects, although some of you here don't agree. I can't change your opinions, it is not my right. But beyond the postprocessing of each frame and the addition of CG backgrounds, monsters, armies and so forth, there was also character to the movie. A TON of character ( I'm not meaning character in the sense of a character or two, but in the sense of feeling, authentic immersion ) and also good acting. The dialogue was basic, but the actors delivered it without conveying a sense of an overaching cliche. I loved the movie for its immaculate approach to battlescenes, its astounding epic soundtrack and for the real, believable characters that were portrayed. Good job to all the team, and I'm looking forward to Snyder's next project, The Watchmen.

[inveni0]

Hope you're not refering to Leonidas' nipples.

And another point I'd like to point out is that a lot of people who like mindless games whine about the movie being mindless. Now I don't know if you like games like say CS, UT, Half Life, Doom, or WoW for that matter, but what's different from playing a mindless but graphically impressive game and watching a mindless and graphically impressive movie? It's like saying "wow that warrior model sure is cool, must've taken a lot of time to do!" and the next minute say "300 was lame because it's such a big movie I expected more serious love and politics stuff I mean that's like every other war movie and anything else is just stupid"


Name a game that isn't mindless, please, so that I may compare.

[Ilkejav mk5]

Name a game that isn't mindless, please, so that I may compare.

Check out "Marathon", an old shooter that came out during the time of Doom and Duke Nukem. It's got a tremendous story, some great science fiction ideas, and a toughful plot.

As for 300, I was a bit dissappointed not because of the plot, but because of the dialogues, which seemed a bit repetitive IMO... though I enjoyed it, just not a the same level I enjoyed really smart movies.

[inveni0]

Check out "Marathon", an old shooter that came out during the time of Doom and Duke Nukem. It's got a tremendous story, some great science fiction ideas, and a toughful plot.


But do you have to KNOW the plot to beat it?

[hihosilver]

That movie had a great plot... I'm not sure what everyone is talking about. The CG was great and the boobies were definitely a plus.

[Honki]

And another point I'd like to point out is that a lot of people who like mindless games whine about the movie being mindless. Now I don't know if you like games like say CS, UT, Half Life, Doom, or WoW for that matter, but what's different from playing a mindless but graphically impressive game and watching a mindless and graphically impressive movie? It's like saying "wow that warrior model sure is cool, must've taken a lot of time to do!" and the next minute say "300 was lame because it's such a big movie I expected more serious love and politics stuff I mean that's like every other war movie and anything else is just stupid"
This movie DID have more than visual effects, although some of you here don't agree. I can't change your opinions, it is not my right. But beyond the postprocessing of each frame and the addition of CG backgrounds, monsters, armies and so forth, there was also character to the movie. A TON of character ( I'm not meaning character in the sense of a character or two, but in the sense of feeling, authentic immersion ) and also good acting. The dialogue was basic, but the actors delivered it without conveying a sense of an overaching cliche. I loved the movie for its immaculate approach to battlescenes, its astounding epic soundtrack and for the real, believable characters that were portrayed. Good job to all the team, and I'm looking forward to Snyder's next project, The Watchmen.
Check out "Marathon", an old shooter that came out during the time of Doom and Duke Nukem. It's got a tremendous story, some great science fiction ideas, and a toughful plot.
As for 300, I was a bit dissappointed not because of the plot, but because of the dialogues, which seemed a bit repetitive IMO... though I enjoyed it, just not a the same level I enjoyed really smart movies.
The movie sucked. Plain and simple. It bored the **** out of me.
300 is like anal sex. You do it once, so you can tell your friends. Anything after that is just the same old ****.
But the titties were cool.

[Knut]

Name a game that isn't mindless, please, so that I may compare.

Final Fantasy 7

You're missing my point though, I wanted to ask why people are impessed by say a 3d model at a forum, but when it comes to a major company doing a in this case graphically impressive project everyone (not everyone of course) toss it off because it didn't live up to their standards on how big movies are supposed to be, even tho thats not what they aimed for at all.

[inveni0]

Final Fantasy 7

You're missing my point though, I wanted to ask why people are impessed by say a 3d model at a forum, but when it comes to a major company doing a in this case graphically impressive project everyone (not everyone of course) toss it off because it didn't live up to their standards on how big movies are supposed to be, even tho thats not what they aimed for at all.

Don't attempt to make a point and then say I'm missing it when you can't. FFVII was just as mindless as every other game in history. Sure, they all start good enough, but about 1/3 of the way in, they become tedious and repetitive. Even the old puzzle solvers like Myst were this way.

The difference is, we had no part in 300. We didn't make it. We didn't know the guy that made it. We didn't even get to see WIPs that show exactly how much work they put into it. The bottom line is that we have to be sucked in somehow, and there are some people here that feel the story was too weak to do that.

While I enjoyed watching the movie, I agree that the illusion just wasn't there. I didn't feel like I was a part of that world. It was a little too ambiguous. So, I can see why some people may have problems with it.

I don't think it was the best movie ever, though, by any means. And it doesn't stand a trekie's-chance-on-prom-night for an Oscar, either.

[Knut]

So it wasn't made by your friends of forum frequenters, of course it sucked d'uh.
Regarding the story, as I said it doesn't play as big a part as the "lets make something that looks awesome", and since that's the intention that's also what you should judge it for; what it is and what it was supposed to be. Movies don't always follow the same path.

I don't have a problem with people who don't like it, but I find it stupid when people whine about the story didn't intrigue them like The Green Mile. It's just an excuse to make a cool movie.

And come on no one ever bothered about the Oscars. Titanic anyone? :zzz:

[inveni0]

It doesn't stand a chance because of all the 'real' movies that will come out this year.

[neolith]

Yeah the CG was great and all,but usually you don't watch a movie only for that,while it's a technically and artisticly achievement,it's not what defines a movie as great or not...It depends how you watch it,if you're looking for some good fighting and effects,then this is a good movie,but if you want a movie that makes you involved emotionally(and i don't mean dramas) and that you will remember for years than this is not for you,for me it's somewhat like action movies.You see it once and then you're done.

[Knut]

It doesn't stand a chance because of all the 'real' movies that will come out this year.

Well I'm sure the guy who played the hunchback is sorry for offending your intellect.

[inveni0]

Well I'm sure the guy who played the hunchback is sorry for offending your intellect.


You don't have to be a jerk about it. *begins sobbing, reminded of tortuous days in highschool

[Freespace-3DT]

Yeah the CG was great and all,but usually you don't watch a movie only for that
I went to see Eragon at the cinema just to get a close look at Saphira :D

[neolith]

Hehe...I guess there are exceptions too :D Didn't you demand your money back? :p

[Freespace-3DT]

Hmmm, I read the book after seeing the movie. If I had read it before seeing the movie, perhaps I would have, though that wouldn't have gotten me anywhere... Romania, remember? :(

[Honki]

They read books in Romania?

[neolith]

Yeah,i remember Romania :) Actually we have clever people here that read books,Honki.Tell him about Gigi Becalli,Freespace :D j/k :p

[Freespace-3DT]

They read books in Romania?
And what's that supposed to mean?

Yeah,i remember Romania Actually we have clever people here that read books,Honki.Tell him about Gigi Becalli,Freespace j/k
Yeah, that's the problem with people like Gigi Becali... All the romanian people getting international publicity are freakin' retards, and as The Black Panther would put it: They bring shame to our nation. ;P

[Knut]

You don't have to be a jerk about it. *begins sobbing, reminded of tortuous days in highschool

:* :dance: