Comp #17 (((ReDesigned Character))) Comp #17

[BiG ToE-3DT]

Low Poly Mini Contest #17
Subject – Character ReDesign
ALL WIPS AND CONCEPTS ARE TO BE KEPT IN THIS THREAD.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g129/DJBiGToE/chars.jpg

Guide Lines:

Close your eyes and think of a game/movie/tv character, doesn’t matter which. Pick the first one that comes to mind. Now, think about what they would look like if you had designed them. Now stop thinking about it and do it.

ReDesign your favorite character from any media format you can think of. Put your style all over this model, make people say, “man, that’s what he should have looked like to begin with” This is not a fan art competition, I don’t want to see you model out something that looks just like the original, that, is, boring.

The specs for this competition are for everyone that wants to step it up a bit (10,000 total tris), it may sound like a lot, but the idea is to get you all ready for the up-coming Dominances War. We need to defend our championship. So consider this your training. You get about 4 weeks, so do not try and over do it. I want people to finish. So start now.

Above all,
Have Fun!


Judging: 3 categories of judging will apply. 10 points possible for each:

Concept - How well your idea fits the topic
Model – How well the geometry is structured, how well it looks like the subject.
Texture – How well the texture space has been used, and how well the texture is painted/applied.

DUE DATE: October 28th: a Sunday, 4 weeks and a few days from today! 12 (midnight) GMT - SUNDAY

Prizes: to be announced.

Idea:
Your mission if you choose to accept it, will be to take a character from any media format and redesign it.

Poly limit:
10,000 Tris Total. You can do whatever you want with these, just don’t get carried away and don’t exceed the 10,000 Tri Limit. Remember, the limit tells you where to stop, there is no minimum, so use as much of the limit as you see fit.

Textures:
(1) 2048 x 2048 texture. This means (1) 2048 for color, (1) 2048 for bump, (1) 2048 for normal, (1) 2048 opacity, so on and so forth. You can chop it up into whatever you want, but you still need to go all out in your texture.

Textures can be hand-painted or you can use photographic sources. Do what you do.



Final Pictures:

Required In The Final Post (1 post per entry):

- 1 x Winning pose shot. This image can only have "One" pose of your character. No multiple shots or different angles. Just one!

- 1 x Beauty shot of your character. Feel free to put multiple angles of your character or just one big version or your character on this page. Even better, try to composite a nice art piece similar to the ones in the Winners' Gallery. Be careful how you do this though, simple is often better. It’s up to you. Also add a picture of the character your redesigning. Like a before and after type thing.

- 1 x wire frame shot of your character. Feel free to put multiple wire frame shots or just one big wire frame shot on this page. It is up to you. Must have polycount included.

- 1 x texture sheet that includes all your used sheets squeezed into "one" sheet.

- Concept Sheet (Only if you have a concept)

You must provide a screen grab of your wire frame with your poly count, with the actual model and all its parts selected. Please don’t Photoshop your Poly counter with a bogus count. Make sure you post all work in progress, including final poly counts and wire frames in the work in progress thread.


A Final Entry Thread will be up and waiting around the end of the third week/beginning of fourth week. Don’t forget to submit your work by posting it in the final thread.

Good luck everyone!
BiG ToE.

[simple_minded]

!bamf!

[Agent-X]

I am going to do Kratos from God of War. I hope to work for Sony Playstation Studios Santa Monica one day. I got nothing to lose. Lets do this!

[carlosf]

Since the mention of recreating a character came up, i thought about the FlashBack game. I played a lot when i was younger and it sounded a good idea.

EDIT: I´ll go with FlashBack: The Quest for Identity.
http://www.adventureclassicgaming.com/images/galleries/139/139_4_medium.gifhttp://www.adventureclassicgaming.com/images/galleries/139/139_2_medium.gif

[Robbiek1000]

I'm setting out to create a character from a great book I just finished called "Mistborn." I have some great descriptions of the character, and it also leave quite a bit of room for the imagination. Cant wait to get started on this!

[the_bromox]

Excellent Topic!! Sure there will be many entries in this one! I been wanting to create Officer Jack Traven (keano reeves) from the movie "Speed". Lookin forward to gettin started!!

[L3XICON]

good topic! though gonna be tough. looking forward to seeing what people come up with :D

being a huge lord of the rings fan (books and films) I decided to tackle a character from that. One of the things in the film I was realy looking forward to seeing was the undead army, and the King of the Dead that dwell in Dunharrow. Unfortunatly it was just about the only element of the lotr film visually that really didnt look how I had imagined it.. so a redesign due? we shall see. here's a quick screeny of how Peter Jackson's lot conjured the long dead chappy up..

[Mr. Bluesummers-3DT]

Quick Reply
I'd love to participate in this one, but I might not be able to. Job apps take most of my free time, and if I fail there I graduate without a jobs! :xx: I'll think of a character though.

[bb0x]

ill prolly do mario in a more serious and realistic way, if i can find the time to do so.

[Mr. Bluesummers-3DT]

Quick Reply
Maybe Brainiac from the Superman Comics...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/50/Lexiac.jpg/200px-Lexiac.jpg

[obibok]

ill go with the bats

[D-Chap]

Hey I might do a LOTR character too- maybe a redesigned version of Eomer- since he has a horse as well which would be fun to do.

[omnicypher]

i know this might sound cliche at the moment, but i think i might remix master chief. his armor never really stood out much (very basic shapes with some greebles thrown in for detail) and to me he always seemed kinda weak. ill try and rebuild him bigger and stronger. but in the end it may not even look anything like him.

[omnicypher]

or i could just make a female version, and the similarities would be stronger and it may fit this comp better.

[freedie]

hello guys so first thing sorry for the space wasting but i got more chars from i wanna choose and need little help couse i cant deside witch one to pick...all are good:D most from these i like alucard from helsing but Ash from army of darkness is fantasic too or others on the third pic......witch one u like most of these:???:
http://img01.picoodle.com/img/img01/9/9/26/f_alucardm_9a7eb82.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/9/9/26/f_alucardm_9a7eb82.jpg&srv=img01)

http://img01.picoodle.com/img/img01/9/9/26/f_ashm_3fc2281.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/9/9/26/f_ashm_3fc2281.jpg&srv=img01)

http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/9/9/26/f_variantsm_c0cf227.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/9/9/26/f_variantsm_c0cf227.jpg&srv=img33)

[-IdanI-]

Hi I'm new here :dance: and Im going to redesign Kratos from god of war holding the blade of Olympus. I will upload some sketches soon.

[defaultalias]

doood, dunno if i'll actually enter, but i'd love to revisit pyramid for a third time. and with such generous specs... someone could get hurt this time around guys.

but lol, don't we have enough fan art? seriously, 3 of the 3 most recent VS threads were fan art, including the one between me and klash. i'm not complaining, it just must be a hot topic i guess...

btw, when do we get to see what the prizes are?

[BiG ToE-3DT]

prizes, I guess that means you talked with Tom or Chris then?

edit: one way or another, there will be at least one months worth to the 2d/3d mag, even if its my subscription.

[omnicypher]

i decided not to think too much about it and jump right in. this is about 30 minutes of work just fleshing things out. im still not sure if this will be a female chief or a stronger bigger version of master chief. proportions can be dealt with later and about half way through ill start roughing out a concept. i just want to get enough done before i get bored working on the idea.

[omnicypher]

2 hours later...

[omnicypher]

i realized master chief is already very feminine and its quite possible master chief is a girl. i wouldn't be surprised if they have a metroid ending to halo 3. ill probably make a stronger version of master chief, but in the process ill make a normal version first.

[omnicypher]

this is by far the fastest, easiest character i have ever created. ill take my time when detailing it, but i got the base mesh pretty much done in only a few hours.

[defaultalias]

nope, master chief is most definitely a dude. yep, his name is john. and he is not feminine. guns and rocket launchers = guy. man, thats like saying Duke Nukem might be a chick. geez...

on the other hand, there were female Spartans. so you could always go read fall of reach and the sequel books and learn up on em. anyway, female Spartans could be cool. if i remember correctly, she's the only one of the originals besides master chief that could have survived. good books, i recommend reading them if you like halo and scifi.

EDIT: Wait! there might be a way! metroid Vs. Halo. watch it! Link (http://www.gametrailers.com/umwatcher.php?id=57998)

[BiG ToE-3DT]

I heard Master Chief's nuts where smooth as eggs.

[EvilKnight]

Mmmh , should I try myself at it, and which character would I redesign?

Still wondering what character and why, and if by the time I figure it out I still have enought time to actually finish my model and all, I'll prolly join! :P

[Rhauk]

Freedie; Alucard. No doubt.

[Tank[NL]]

really cool topic. i still have no idea what to do. i'm thinking of D2 Necromancer, JC denton or maybe something from warcraft or lotr.

i might not finish tho. i just got the final assignment for my 3dsmax class for the next year or so. i need to creat a short animation in 2.5 months... ooh well, i'll see how it turns out. but i wil deffinitly keep an eye on this one mates :)

[Agent-X]

Work in progress. Still much to create and tweak. Anatomy, Beard, Armor, Cloth, and Lots of Blood and chains.
http://aycu34.webshots.com/image/27913/2003045483496275947_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003045483496275947)

[gaetan]

i wanna do Tommy Vercetti from GTA

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Vercetti


im not in vein to work now but i promise to my self toll start it next week

:ugh:

[omnicypher]

yeah i saw that metroid vs halo vid while researching for references. that was one of the coolest videos ive ever seen. it was really well put together and had a good mix of media allusions. i never played enough halo to know the guys real name and he/she seems pretty androgynous. that armor could easily hide average sized breasts and those shoulders could easily fall under female proportions. and after what ive seen from metroid, anythings possible. im not saying master chief is not a man, im just saying it could be a chick.

[lost_soul]

I am in, i have some character in my mind but i am not decided yet. Just put my space in this comp......

[TheMadArtist]

So many choices....what to do..

[gaetan]

i did this fast

for tomorrow it will be he

im thankfull for your board

[Robbiek1000]

heres my start!

Ok, heres my concept. As I was finishing it up Photoshop froze up on me and i didn't get to save it out. To say the least i was shocked, but I managed to us my brain and hit print screen. The image got cut off cause I was zoomed in a bit when it froze. Lucky for me all the important stuff is still there! Hopefully I'll get the chance to finish it back up from when i last saved.

I also started modeling the foot!!

CONCEPT!!!
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k187/Robbiek800/Vin/Vin_Front.jpg

FOOOOOOOT!!!!!!!
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k187/Robbiek800/Vin/WIP1.jpg

[Bogimps]

Robbie if you havnt turned your pc off yet check your temp directory in the windows folder it may have saved a copy for you (mine has on occasion for ps and maya)

im hoping to do a character from garth nix's "the old kingdom" trilogy... theres so many to choose! chlorr of the mask is who im thinking at the moment (ill try harder to get done on this one XD i had all the modeling for the environment one done i just got frustrated with texturing it...)

[EvilKnight]

Lol, a lot of you have already chosen your characters, I don't know how you guys do it, but I still dunno which to pick, there is too many...

[Tank[NL]]

same here man. i dont know what to pick...

[novarg]

mmm after a lot of thinking.. i finally decided

what about
http://www.dukenostalgia.com/Centurions/Pictures/ace/aceboxfront.jpg

ace mc cloud from centurions ?
ill prefer de skynight is light and quick
or make some kind of omnicenturion who can attach any parts


SFME!! (sorry for my english)

[platypus_green]

Haven't been online for a while and see what pops up, another fun lowpoly contest.

Must enter this one.

[Grimmie]

hello guys so first thing sorry for the space wasting but i got more chars from i wanna choose and need little help couse i cant deside witch one to pick...all are good:D most from these i like alucard from helsing but Ash from army of darkness is fantasic too or others on the third pic......witch one u like most of these:???:



ASH! ASH!, Choose Ash. :shout:
He's cool

Shop smart, shop S-Mart

[Agent-X]

http://aycu16.webshots.com/image/28175/2002606826637738964_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002606826637738964)

[Agent-X]

http://aycu01.webshots.com/image/27400/2003749267322504870_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003749267322504870)

[L3XICON]

Agent-X & omnicypher great start guys, coming along nicely!

Robbiek1000 liking the concept. looking forward to seeing what comes of this one. am also glad that you didnt lose your whole concept in crash. hate it when crash causes loss of work, and i never remember to save regularly!

so here's my concept. The king of the dead of dunharrow I had always imagined as more of a celt. kind of a dead william wallace; kilts and leather armour, axes and claymores. not much in the way of metal armour. but what armour they have, and has survived the centuries is intricatly designed and embossed.

and one thing I shall certainly do without is the weird lime green glow that the dead of dunharrow had in the film :D

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff276/l3xicon_pb/lpc_character1concept.jpg

[defaultalias]

agent X- those abs are not very attractive right now. i'd also check the arms, looking kinda bloated.
L3XICON- nice concept.

[ryvick]

OK so I was in one of the other post sections where people had to make a recreation of their old game character and I got down and started workign on it like crazy, only to find out that the last day was Aug31... so... I uh.. have this concept that I am not gonna use, for now, but I am glad that it came up how it did. I am gonna share this with you guys and go back to the drawing board. hahah I feel dumb.
here ya go, soldier unit from Wolfenstein 3D ->

[ianchaos]

I figured it would be easiest to start with a character whose original implementation was not very memorable, so I looked through old comic books and found one who had an incredibly dull implementation compared to the other characters in the series. His name is Big Boy Caprice and he was Dick Tracy's arch enemy. Most of Tracy's other enemies had very distinguishing characteristics like Flattop (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flattop_%28Dick_Tracy_villain%29), or Prunceface whose face had deep vertical wrinkles. but Big Boy Caprice was only slightly overweight and of average height. So I'm going to try to make him larger than life to match the other Dick Tracy villains. Here's a pict of how Al Pacino looked when he portrayed Big Boy in the movie.
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/ianchaos/redesign/capricie.jpg
All I've done is a sketch of his head so far, but I plan on giving him a ridiculously oversized upper body---huge hands, barrel chest, and then give him an undersized lower body.
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/ianchaos/redesign/head1-1.jpg

[bb0x]

hey yo, here's my start on Mario. with of course a plumber's best friend: a Pipe wrench

http://bbox.sylorn.com/random/mario0001.jpg

Lexicon-
nice concept. tho' the ribcage seems to be a bit too big.. or is it just me? :P

Agent-X -
your model looks a bit cartoony.. like the features are (imo) unsuccessfully exaggerated. abs look weird, the upper arms look underdefined, and the shoes just look poofy. I am aware that its just a start tho'


edit-
i was planning on using Bobby Bacala as reference... he looks like a realistic 'stacheless mario to me.

http://www.hbo.com/sopranos/img/cast/actor/steve_schirripa.jpg

[Agent-X]

Right now I am working on the tassle leather stuff that hangs in the back of the belt thing or whatever you call it.
http://aycu40.webshots.com/image/30159/2005792720730891050_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2005792720730891050)

[simple_minded]

Two ideas stand out, Werewolf Women of the S.S. or Samurai Style HellBoy? Or..... Trash both and think somemore....... What do you guys think?



?BAMF?

[Agent-X]

simple_minded: Do what you think you can handle. Whatever you do decide early, that way you have more time to do what you need to do. Those that tend to decide later, usually do not finish. So its always good to start early. This is another reason why I am getting as much modeling done and out of the way, because those that know me, know I tend to spend too much time modeling and I dont get enough time to texture. This is exactly why I have been trying to go into a modeling overhaul early, especially since I have lots of reference on God of War. And I a huge fan and love playing the game. So, figure out what ya want to do soon, and get cracking.

[Tank[NL]]

hey all. i just spend some time in photoshop. i decided to go for the necromancer character from D2. made something i can work with.

http://www.firstcelestialwar.com/pics/Necro2.jpg

i might lose the helmet. and i have to make him look more condescending or cranky. hope i get to work on this months challenge.

gl all

[Fenixy]

ryvick it looks more like admiral from HellBoy to me :drool:

[defaultalias]

i thought that at first too.

i'm still struggling with the temptation to enter. i know i won't finish... too busy lately.

[L3XICON]

My first wip, and already getting bogged down. took too long doing just this skull =/
and still have the jaw bone to do...

[lost_soul]

I already make decision, for this contest i choose to redesign and rebuild Hiro Miyamoto, character from 'Daikatana'. Hiro is main character in an epic FPS game created by John Romero.
http://aycu14.webshots.com/image/27093/2001435795159489429_rs.jpg
Honestly i am not big fan of this game but maybe it is one of most tragic story in Game Development History. If you interesting, you can read it in http://www.gamespot.com/features/btg-daikatana/index.html

[randomdwarf]

I'm a newbie but I'd like to join.

I hope nobody's suggested this but I'd like to redesign the templars for starcraft 1 and 2.

=D

My concept is that the High Templars and Dark Templars after Brood War become one unit a "Gray" or "Twilight Templar." It makes sense to me. Since the current version of SC 2 includes a Twilight Archon which can supposedly be made by combining any two versions of the templar.

Will be posting a concept sketch in a couple of days - hope that's ok.

[Neoncypher]

Right....

Banana-man...but an evil version...over-ripe banana-man

[Rhauk]

I'm giving a try at Mario as well, using this creepy (yet awesome) painting as a reference.
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/7807/marioqq9.jpg



Here's what I've done today~

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/9823/wip1qs0.png
(Nevermind the placeholders :B)

[ryvick]

Goust: yeah the head is pretty much inspired from Hellboy character and Jin-roh. I should change it up more.

[Brazucka]

Hi there,

Here´s my entry. Hope you like,
since I´m starting to think that
I´m an eternal noobie, haha...

I´m very happy with the results
I got until now. Even knowing that
it still needs a lot of work.

Sorry about my english, I need to
practice more.

:wave:

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a84/brazucka/Batman01a.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a84/brazucka/Batman01.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a84/brazucka/Batman01b.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a84/brazucka/Batman01f.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a84/brazucka/Batman01e.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a84/brazucka/Batman01d.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a84/brazucka/Batman01c.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a84/brazucka/Batman01g.jpg

Some up´s. The low res and the turbo smoothed version.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a84/brazucka/Batman02a.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a84/brazucka/Batman02.jpg

[VinsanityV20]

:) Hey guys - it's been awhile. While I'm totally busy with some pre portfolio at the school, my animation is going swimmingly. Since the rest of the thing doesn't worry me, I'm going to give this comp a chance. My redesign: an oldie but a goodie - the blue bomber!

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q164/vinsanityv20/megamanxcommand_012904_08.jpg

Going to go in a direction like his Command Mission self. Tougher, darker, sleeker and cooler looking. One thing I'd like to do is actually make him look like a machine a bit, since he usually just looks like a kid in a fancy suit. I'll work on my design later this weekend, in between work, so I'll be back. Looks like a great comp guys - can't wait to see everyone's stuff!

[mrdeathsocks]

ok guys im going to try this one out, usually ive been kinda shy about my work but they guy that i will be doing is brock samson from the venture bros

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g20/creativegrapejuice/Untitled-11.jpg?t=1191004786

[VinsanityV20]

First off, Mr.DeathSocks, if you're using Photobucket you can embed the images into your post. Just Ctrl+C the tag part of it and paste it in your post, Ctrl+V. And Brock Samson - nice choice! Venture Bros = Awesome show

Also, I was fooling around in Photoshop for like a half hour, and this is as far as I got with my idea before i need to shut down and get ready for work...
[IMG]http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q164/vinsanityv20/Megaman3DT.jpg

Taking him in a more Metroid/Halo direction, though clearly the linework is rough as hell:) Also, he kind of looks robocop-ish. I'm gonna make sure the armor has a very puzzle piece-quality to it, with some detailed linework to show just where exactly all the plates line up (there's some of that in his face plate). Also, there are going to be a lot of wires coming out of his back connecting into his head and arms and such. Not sure if I want to give him a helmet, but there's plenty of time to keep working away at this this weekend.

Abandoned this ides:
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q164/vinsanityv20/Uchronicboy.jpg
Because it's too uchronic and steampunkish, so that wasted some time

Gotta get ready for work though now; hasta la vista

[hammering3D]

Hello guys :roll:

I have a question for U all profesionist out here :wave:

I know that this is not an help thread and I am sorry for psoting this in here, but this forum always have been so helpful with ppl's and because this is create to help ppls well I need some help :wall:

I post a thread in help section but I receive no answer and because is all related to low poly modeling, and where I can find better ppl to answer my questions that in here I decive to do what I usually not doing and post the link in here and if some of U is kind to go in there and answer some of my problems I will very much be grateful.

Here is the link to my thread in the help forum:

http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?p=582542#post582542

I am really sorry for psoting this in here :ugh:

[Robbiek1000]

Wow, everyones working so fast....good to see!

i spent a ton of time working on this to catch up to you guys....I think from this point im going to make the high poly and normal map it and then come back and do all the extras, currently poly count is 7678. I decided to do face morph for this character because its something I really haven't tackled (in detail) before. thank god I'm on break right now or I wouldn't be as far as i am now.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k187/Robbiek800/Vin/WIP8.jpg

VinsanityV20 - you *******, its good to see you on the forums again!!! Hows life treatin' ya.....I haven't seen you in forever!

[Rhauk]

Time for another WIP, now with fancy lighting!
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/3677/wip2nx8.png


And a back view plus wires:

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2726/viewsjk8.png

Would love to get some C&C, this is my highest poly char so far (currently sitting on 2k tris).
I've also done something new with this one by starting with the body instead of the head, since I always have some trouble getting the body right.

I will try normal mapping, but I can't promise that I'll be able to do it right since I've never normalmapped before D:
Oh well, on to the head! (unless any of you have any ideas for me how to improve the body, of course~)


Edit: Robbie, looking good! The arms and legs are awfully thin though, they look very fragile.

[Robbiek1000]

Yup, they are, in the book Mistborn, where this character is from, shes a very skinny frail character....her mid section and thighs are a bit bulky only because I'm making room for her cloths. Hopefully it will all look better once its normal mapped...if not I can always tweak the mesh...but for now I'm going to keep it the way it is.....

[Rhauk]

Hrm, I still think it looks like her arms might break if she tries to use them :\

As for Mario, I've started with the face, but since I lack any reference pictures at all I ended up with this:

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/7430/asdhaoishdasmt8.png

I'm pretty happy with the result so far, modelwise, but it doesn't look realistic or Mario at all D:
And it feels like I've seen him somewhere before, I can't quite put my finger on it though. Oh well.


Edit: Just made him a bit more "angry-looking" instead of confused, and it worked great. Won't bother updating the pictures though, hurr.

Edit2: Now he looks more like a rapist than Super Mario though :c

[D-Chap]

Vinsanity, it's been too long.

The character I randomly decided to do is Eomer from Lord of the Rings. It's been a while since I've done a character, and my concept/ model sheet making skills aren't the best- but here's my initial idea: (you'll notice the horse's reins come right out of his head- I'm working on that)

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa314/D_Chap/concept.jpg

I wanted to make a character with a much different look and demeanor than the character played by Karl Urban in the movies. Not that I didn't like his performance, I just thought it'd be fun to make him different. And give him a bunch of spears.

[bb0x]

Kris-
looks good, i would stop using planes tho' since you got a damn budget of 10,000 tris. Just make the straps a solid object if ya hadnt already.

If you still have allot of tris to spare once you think your done with the model, tri smoothing it with meshsmooth or turbosmooth or whatever its called in max.

[Rhauk]

You're right about those planes, bbox XD I guess it's become a bad habit for me to make planes out of everything that can be made with planes.

Anyway, here's an update on Mario.

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1790/asdhaoishdasod3.png

[Tank[NL]]

looking good rhauk. he really reminds of someone tho. some fat comedian. used to be on tv in shows from the 80's. **edit**Dom DeLuise, thats it. he looks like a younger Dom DeLuise**/edit**

[Rhauk]

Thanks, Tank~

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8969/asdasdasdft2.png

He's starting to look more and more finished now. Time to find out where to spend more polies :|
I'm currently at 3158 tris, so I'm not even halfway to the limit. Time to get rid of those planes!

[RiCkFX]

so im all new to this forum, but instead of you welcomeing me to this forum, i welcome you to ricks world of life saving bookmarks :p

well whatever, i thought ill join this contest.
what came to my mind was the movie "smokin' aces", i love the movie, and i always thought that the tremor brothers should have had a girl in their team - you know you love girls with chainsaws!

im going to post my concepts in the next days.

- Rick.

[EvilKnight]

I think I'll give it a go with Link from Legend of Zelda. Going to try to give him more realism and maybe some bodyarmors, Always tought how could he resist the monsters attacks without armors!

Doing some research on the subject at the moment, will post research and concept later on!

[omnicypher]

that painting is the coolest mario art ive ever seen!

[omnicypher]

your god of war is looking pretty good agent-x, but i would probably make his nipples and his shoulder blades a little farther apart (they seem to overlap the trapezius muscles on the back) and maybe deflate some of the inner side of the biceps. otherwise, everything else is looking great. keep it up!

[omnicypher]

im thinking about changing my idea to something that allows more artistic freedom. something a little bit more obscure. if i edit master chief too much, no one will know its master chief. i was thinking about making the guy from time crisis 3 (the red haired, buff guy on the back of a plane shooting a minigun at you while you ride in a jeep on level 4). that guy was about as bad ass as it gets, but when i redesign him ill cover him in ammo and maybe some armor. my only problem is i cant find any photo references of him on the internet. all i can find is youtube videos with poor quality.

[Rhauk]

Update, tri count is 4k now :P

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/8038/asdasdasdasdasdgw5.png

[L3XICON]

another quick update from me, jaw and helmet done. am going to have to start being careful of poly's. 10k is deceptive... you think you have a lot and it soon disapears!

[edit] quick edit to show how texturing on the helmet is coming along :D

[Rhauk]

Another update with hat and sideburns!

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/8819/asdasdasdasdasddb0.png

....Am I updating too often?

[omnicypher]

i now understand why no photos could be found on the internet. this guy doesnt exactly stand still and say cheese! i took about 40 photos of him and only about 2 or 3 were any good. alot of them were myself getting shot or blown up with a grenade, and alot of the time he would have his huge gun in the way of his body. plus the jeep and plane are moving independently and the game makers never actually gave him a name. but i think i got enough shots to work with, and to show the world how badass this boss really is.

[omnicypher]

sorry for the huge pics, i didnt know they were that large.

[bb0x]

try resizing in photoshop?.. lol
try editing your posts? .. lol XD

anyways those images are way to blurry for me to see what kind of character it is really...

anyways heres a bit of an update on my Mario.
http://bbox.sylorn.com/random/mario0002.jpg

I gave him muscly arms jsut because he's supposed to work all day with rusty pipes and stuff... instead of jumping on chestnut kids or bumping his head to piles of floating bricks XD

[-IdanI-]

wow great stuff everyone here is a little sculpt on the basemesh retopo is next. :wall:

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g298/adudewithbangs344/kratos_base.jpg

[freedie]

ok i pick alucard first i was searching for some ref pic here are all things i planning to use on that char

Rhauk omg look very cool

http://img02.picoodle.com/img/img02/9/9/28/f_allm_94b7964.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/9/9/28/f_allm_94b7964.jpg&srv=img02)

[simple_minded]

RickFX----> Great choice! I love that movie also, look forward to seein the tremor sister!

Rhauk----> Looking Nice! Great job!

!BAMF!

[RiCkFX]

yeah right now i have like to many people around to draw something up :/
the problem is i have her in mind with the bonneville, but this here is rather without the car, but since car modelling is all i mainly do, ill think of a way to implement it :)

- Rick.

[VinsanityV20]

I don't know if this will help anybody, but if you're redesigning a game character, there are some choice art gallery's here:

http://gamecritics.com/imagedir

y'know, for research. And yes, Robbie and D-Chap - nice to be back:)

[BiG ToE-3DT]

Rhauk: you can always use some of those poly's to round out the shoulders.

bb0x: bubble butts are great, make sure it stays in the final model.

VinsanityV20: great find you got there, it's got me thinking for doing Nariko of Heavenly Sword.

[bb0x]

heres another update..

http://bbox.sylorn.com/random/mario0003.jpg

[omnicypher]

minigun wip

[bb0x]

omnicypher-
I think a screenshot of your viewport would help us a lot more help you with your models. this render, and black material makes it hard for us to see hows its done.



Another update :)
http://bbox.sylorn.com/random/mario0004.jpg

[Brazucka]

Do you guys know any good tutorial
for bat wings modeling? Didn´t find
here nor in the internet.

Until I find out, I´ll keep refining the
body.

:wall:

[bb0x]

what exactly are you trying to know about modelling bat wings? it doesn't sound hard to model bat wings...

[RiCkFX]

sounds like some splines, some bridgeing and some bending to me - you'd just need good reference pics.

- Rick.

[Brazucka]

Problem solved, here
are the up´s. I hope
you like it.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a84/brazucka/Batman03.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a84/brazucka/Batman03a.jpg

Oh, something happened when
I tried to target weld the wings
to the body. Some vertices weld
normaly but others don´t do that,
even if I use superglue, haha...

Do you know what could be???

Thanks.

:wave:

[RiCkFX]

looks great, i love those wings!

edit, since i dont like to double post, heres my first concept wip for the tremor sister.
http://nfsaddons.com/rick/contests/threedy/17/concept_wip1.jpg

- Rick.

[carlosf]

Great progress everybody. love all the models.


Here is my Conrad concept. I just wish i could draw better. im leaving all the gadgets concepts on separeted sheets.

[BiG ToE-3DT]

Brazucka: make sure the area your trying to weld, is weldable. Meaning the verts have an open side to them. Hard to explain. The vert should/could have 4 polys around it, but if you want to weld that vert to another vert that is not on the same plane, then that vert needs to have one of the 4 polys deleted.

I hope that makes sense.

[freedie]

Brazucka check here

http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?t=53474

[RiCkFX]

small update
http://nfsaddons.com/rick/contests/threedy/17/concept_wip2.jpg

- Rick.

[Brazucka]

RickFX: Thanks. I´d like to make something more dramatic I guess. Like a big cape, I´m not sure. What do you think?
:???:

BiG ToE-3DT: That´s the situation. What could be wrong?
:wall:

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a84/brazucka/Batman04.jpg

Freedie: Wow. Impressive, really. Could you send me one of those wings, just to take a look at the structure? I promisse I won´t use it.
:halo:

Thank you all for the help and congratulations, keep the good work.
This is going to be one of the best challenge I´ve ever seen here.

Se ya!

:dance::D:wave:

Oh, I think I don´t have a clue on how to spend 10k polys, hahaha...
At this stage, what should I do? Make a hi res version and try a
normal map? I still have plenty of polys to use... Ai caramba!

Oh 2: In blender we can extrude an edge from the mesh. To build
parts of the clothes or some acessories, for example. How does it
works in Max?

[L3XICON]

Brazucka awesome! really coming along well

quick update from me; starting to build up over my placeholders.. you guys working so fast, not sure I gonna be able to keep up :haha:

[carlosf]

Brazucka: See if there isn't any vetex overlaping. Try using collapse insted of weld. Also see if you can bridge the two edges...

If all fails, try detaching the element and use Connect.

hope it helps

[simple_minded]

Brazucka---> You can select the polys you want, detach them as a seperate object, then use the shell modifier. This will let you control the thickness of the clothing. When your happy with the results, delete the inside faces. Hope this helps!


!BAMF!

[freedie]

Brazucka here is some exaples of wing.....hmm about my wings model u must send me email becouse i dont now how else i could send u that

btw the wings of ur char must be much larger. that guy is heavy and he must fly so he need really massive big wings

http://img29.picoodle.com/img/img29/9/9/29/f_wingsm_6da9329.jpg

[bb0x]

yeah what freedie said, the spreading of the wings should be about double his length. Also i find it quite weird that those wings just "pop out" his back.

[freedie]

here is first update the base model still its very low poly so i got plenty space for details plannig to use full 10k tris

Brazucka i got one very good tutorial similar model like urs i try to upload it

http://img02.picoodle.com/img/img02/9/9/29/f_01m_ced0eb3.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/9/9/29/f_01m_ced0eb3.jpg&srv=img02)

[Brazucka]

:D

Hey guys, thank you all for the tips, tricks
n´help, for real. It´s very important to me,
to learn with you.

I made new wings, see what you think.

Freddie: very cool model.
Lexicon: Keep going man, don´t give up. :haha:

Again, thanks everybody!!!
:wave:

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a84/brazucka/Batman05.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a84/brazucka/Batman05c.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a84/brazucka/Batman05b.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a84/brazucka/Batman05a.jpg

[L3XICON]

Brazuka wings look great now, much improved. looks real mean :D

[Rhauk]

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/2662/textureprogressdq2.png

Doing some texturing. The seams on the pants are incredibly hard to get right though, I just can't seam to get them right (harr harr).

Anyone got a good reference picture of pants like those?



Edit: With normals~
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/4433/asdasdasdmr8.png

[carlosf]

Brazucka:The wings looks very good...keep up

Freedie:Very nice start, you kept the cartoon proportions.

Hey, does any1 knows how to make a instance on XSI? Im making a test drive, but can't find anything that is similar too instance.

[bb0x]

Kris-

What i would do is do the seams like normal jeans, but doing the waist a bit higher and just continue the seams going up.



quick toolbox
http://bbox.sylorn.com/random/toolbox.jpg

[freedie]

L3XIKON ur model is perfect like it

carlosf thx i trying do my best

Brazucka the wings are bigger yea but am not sure...now he look like an bat guy and then he should have connected wings to his arms and lower part of wing should be connected to legs i think it could look better also not sure like it is that back view, maybe u can delete polys in middle of wings where is guys back that u can see it from back view and left wing connect from leg along to arm..the same with right.....but its ur model just say that it could look more natural peace:D

[L3XICON]

small update;

have started modelling the kilt and other parts of the bone structure.
also started looking at how I want to use opacity maps to make everything look threadbare and rotting.

the tartan texture is a placeholder. I need to make it look a lot more dirty and rotten :D

[RiCkFX]

another update, i just like threw in some blurry skin tones for now, i like it like that - keeps it a bit cartoonish, and soft, i'd like some critics about that.

http://nfsaddons.com/rick/contests/threedy/17/concept_wip3.jpg

- Rick.

[L3XICON]

looking good rick, I think the blurry looks good so long as major details, eyes nose etc are sharp and crisp. the belt and the ammo strap look awesome, I really wouldnt want to mess with this lass ;p looking forward to seeing your finished concept as well as your model :D

just one crit of the concept (because I am picky.. and you asked for crits;p) her navel atm looks odd. like a moon crater on her stomach. :D

[RiCkFX]

i can see that hmm...ok here's another try on the belly, and i added some more shading to her arms, hands and the belt.

http://nfsaddons.com/rick/contests/threedy/17/concept_wip4.jpg

- Rick.

[obibok]

ok heres what i got so far...
im planing to make him some sort of body armor similar to that of justice

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/4336/batswipvn1.png

[Tank[NL]]

small update. not a lot of time. got homework for the first time in years. gotta make duckhunt in flash... could be worse :)

i got my orthos sorted. its looking prety halfway decent and im looking farward to modeling him :D

*edit*
it would help to add the picture.. need sleep.... zzzz

http://www.firstcelestialwar.com/pics/Necro3.jpg

gl guys. im seeing a lot of cool characters already.

[RiCkFX]

minor tweaks:
http://nfsaddons.com/rick/contests/threedy/17/concept_wip5.jpg

- Rick.

[Robbiek1000]

Little update

Got Vin through mudbox and its time to normal map!

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k187/Robbiek800/Vin/WIP9.jpg

[RiCkFX]

wow shes annorexic :)
i like the clothes.

- Rick.

[BiG ToE-3DT]

Rhauk: post the unwrap, might be able to help you with those seams.

obibok: legs look too short.

[Rhauk]

Wah, time flies way too fast when I'm working on this.
It's already 4 o'clock in the morning... *__*


Here's the newest update.
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/6326/asdasdasdql1.png

I redid all the textures to waste less space, and I also redid the pants (model).
I'll show other views tomorrow, but now I really need to get some sleep *collapse on keyboard*

[RiCkFX]

yeah, 4 o'clock here too now, working on her gloves - eh - the decision of actually giving her gloves...:) and then im going to sleep.

- Rick.

[omnicypher]

yeah, for some reason when i render in max, it looks light, then when i save to jpeg it suddenly turns black and dull. heres a screengrab with some wires.

[bb0x]

RiCkFX-
You should think the skin tone.. it looks very -not- skin like.. Just using a darker/lighter colour will not work on skin, There are lots of things to think about when painting skin. id suggest using a bit more red's and blue's. to give the impression of blood underneath her skin. Rigth now it tends to go more to green-ish which makes it look very zombie like.

Also White lightening looks very boring, try to use yellow(sunlight) as a primary lightsource and blue/green(artificial light) as a secondary lightsource.



Omnicypher-
You could prolly save a bit polys by welding the middle row to the sides since they arent really helping the shape of the model. That pruple edge is also pretty useless right now. Also make sure to delete any unseen faces.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g152/b_bucket/20abe044.jpg

[freedie]

little update of shoes...yea i got 5 o`clock at morning

http://img37.picoodle.com/img/img37/9/9/29/f_02m_fa3ea44.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/9/9/29/f_02m_fa3ea44.jpg&srv=img37)

[BenniKImmel]

Im new here, figured I could try something, I think I might do a Sith version of Obi Wan Kenobi, I think thatd be pretty cool.

[omnicypher]

nice shoes!!

[EvilKnight]

Nice shoes!!! Clean Mesh!

Still playing with conceptions of link here!
I'll show when I'll feel more confortable with my wip lol!

[bb0x]

Freedie-
The boots look nice.. keep it up..

EvilKnight-
I'm looking forward to your version of Link :)

[Robbiek1000]

Hmmm, I guess doing a Character from a book was not the smartest Idea.....no one seems to read books these days....not even AWESOME ones like Mistborn! Maybe I'll have to make a little write up of Vin's (the character from the book) characteristics and such......and yes shes skinny......

[defaultalias]

nice shoes indeed, freedie. looks like you have alucard nailed down pretty well so far. i'm looking forward to the texture.
working on a basemesh right for sculpting, as soon as i'm done i'll start posting some pyramid head goodness. hope i can finish this time around :P

[freedie]

thx guys im trying the best i love modeling but hate texturing:D
defaultallias: well normaly i seen hellsing just one and OVA version maybe two times
next im starting with gloves upgrade only what im worried about is tris limit:D

[Robbiek1000]

yeah I was going to say Freedie...those boot gotta be packing some serious tris.....but they look great! So whats the poly count on those boots anyway?

[Quasar]

Hey guys

Going to be making Kurt Hectic (http://www.juliushettig.com/MDK/mdk.jpg) from MDK. Good luck everyone!

[Rhauk]

Mmm, I love those boots, Freedie. Can't wait to see Alucard <3

[Tank[NL]]

those boots are looking sweet Freedie. looking forward to seeing more.

i had some spare time, so i went ahead and got started on my necromancer.
http://www.firstcelestialwar.com/pics/Necro4.jpg

the head looks wierd, i know. im also gonna have to fix the hands. way too cartoony atm.

ooh well, back to homework now :D

*edit* wireframe. srry for not adding*edit*

[vied]

hi all !
me want to join the fun too :dance:
I choose masked rider (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamen_rider),
I'll try to be close enough to the next version, but it is redesign rite?:crazy:

worked on the base mesh, still gota lot to do, just min optimisation
n Here's what I got so far...HENSHIN !!!

[Brazucka]

Thank you all dudes!

carlosf
Thanks man.

freedie
Thank you freedie. I had the same opinion as you.
Take a look at my reference image. But I thougth
it could me more imponent if the wings were big
like a cape, not connected to the arms. Connected
would be great, but he would have to open the arms
to open the wings, I don´t know. I did some posing
on Zbrush, just to give a rough idea... I want him
to be as feared as huge demon, hahaha...

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a84/brazucka/064Morphologyofabat.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a84/brazucka/Batman06.jpg

And man, for a beginner like me, I can only say one
thing about the boots: outstanding!

L3XICON
Really cool your model.

Robbiek1000
Very nice man. How do you prepare de normals
using the hi res version? Is it too much complicated?

Quasar
I love MDk, good choice.

vied
Such a nice mesh man, what do you plan for it?

Let´s keep working hard!

[Tank[NL]]

cool work Brazucka. he is really starting to look menacing. really nice mesh btw. wish my topologies looked that good.

[freedie]

hello i finally wake up heh robbiek well the whole model have more then 6k tris for now i post some new update of gloves at evening but must be really more carefull with polys 10k is not so much anyway

brazucka the model look better for now but dont stop here u can do it even better try to connect that wings to arms not whole just to the middle of wing and add some more heavier main bones like u got on that reference image of bat....would he have an tail?

tank[nl] yeap i love necromacer from diablo currently i play this game right now and for a necro

vied i dont now that char what u making but the basemesh look great

[defaultalias]

tank, his arms are looking very much broken right now. i know it's still wip, but that's the sort of thing you need to get knocked out early. you already have a lot of detail added in, and it's being built on sloppy fundamentals.

[Tank[NL]]

hehe, yeah i know default. but he is really skinny underneath his armor. i got a sketch of him naked. ill post it asap. i should fix it, because it does look wierd. havent added too much detail on the arms yet, because of that.

and overall, i havent added all that much detail yet. currently little over half the polylimit and still lots to do. most of it is on different objects.

[freedie]

brazucka dont laugh i was thinking something like this..sketch sucks but i hope u now what i mean:o
http://img34.picoodle.com/img/img34/9/9/30/f_BATm_69cda89.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/9/9/30/f_BATm_69cda89.jpg&srv=img34)

Tank[NL] make him an skeleton helm and skeleton shield like in game

[freedie]

another update try to post more little bit later
http://img02.picoodle.com/img/img02/9/9/30/f_03m_f73cce3.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/9/9/30/f_03m_f73cce3.jpg&srv=img02)

[Rhauk]

My newest WIP.
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/4682/wipwipxr5.png


Only the head left now, and I'm not looking forward to texturing it. Anyone got any good photo references of fat, mustachioed and sleazy plumber faces? :P

Anyway, I'm only at 4,8k tris right now. Am I allowed to make some props to go with the final render? It seems like such a waste to not even use half of the max limit.

[freedie]

Rhauk i tried to find something but the best what i found i here on 3dtotal.com a tutorials name: 'Low-Poly Character Modeling and Texturing' by Athey Nansel-Moravetz

[BiG ToE-3DT]

Rhauk: yeah, you can do that, but scenes don't count towards the characters polycount, just the character and his props. If you wanted, you could do his brother.

[RiCkFX]

RiCkFX-
You should think the skin tone.. it looks very -not- skin like.. Just using a darker/lighter colour will not work on skin, There are lots of things to think about when painting skin. id suggest using a bit more red's and blue's. to give the impression of blood underneath her skin. Rigth now it tends to go more to green-ish which makes it look very zombie like.

Also White lightening looks very boring, try to use yellow(sunlight) as a primary lightsource and blue/green(artificial light) as a secondary lightsource.


thank you for the the tipps, Fatih. - i will look into recoloring the shadows and highlights.

- Rick.

[Rhauk]

Thanks, Freedie. It's a nice tutorial, but I still lack the reference photos D:

Is there any alternatives to 3d.sk? I'm thinking of redoing the entire head, but to get it realistic it would really help to have reference photos (side and front.)

[Archeris]

Wouw i would love to enter and to finish..

http://www.halifax.it/best/zoe2/img/art/jehuty002_color_sin.jpg

I would love to try and have a shot at modeling this one :P

[VinsanityV20]

Well guys, I think I've finished my Mega Man redesign: from the rough

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q164/vinsanityv20/Megaman3DT.jpg

I've gotten to this:

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q164/vinsanityv20/Megaman3DT-1.jpg

Still pretty rough, but the redesign captures the mood I'm going for. That is, showing Mega Man as a robot instead of a guy in a suit. Sure, he looks a bit Master Chief-ish or Robocop-ish (and the Mega Buster looks a lot like Samus' Power Cannon), but is any of that a bad thing? I've had a busy weekend of portfolio work and work-work, and I still have to go to this chick's going away party tonight, so no more concept work for me. I'll just refine it more when I do some model sheets, hopefully tommorow - really want to start modeling this guy! Any critiques and criticism?

[freedie]

so time for another update

Rhauk: if u go to www.3d.sk and putt to body parts->head and body type->overweight , gender->men u got 18pages of free samples:D

http://img40.picoodle.com/img/img40/9/9/30/f_04m_425ec59.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/9/9/30/f_04m_425ec59.jpg&srv=img40)

[Robbiek1000]

Vinsanity....I hate the colors.....!!!!! That is a rainbow of colors that I am very unhappy with....I look at all those colors and it makes me wanna plant flowers......that cant be good.

[BenniKImmel]

Heres a WIP on my Sith Obi Wan, all I am missing is the head I believe.
http://img406.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sithpiczr0.jpg

Can anyone tell me how to get the tri/quad count in blender to show up?

[D-Chap]

First off you guys- some of you need to SLOW DOWN! I'm just working on a model sheet here and I'm already looking at people with full models done! -jk

Tank- When doing your model sheets make sure you use human reference as he is lacking proper form and that carried on to the model. It's something I have trouble with all the time and practice is the only way to get good at it.

Vince- I don't hate the colors as much as Rob but I can't tell what his primary color is, they're fighting for attention. Also if you have yellow trim on the boots, I'd like to see yellow somewhere else on his suit too.

Here's a WIP of Eomer from Lord of the Rings. To get ideas of what I wanted him to look like- I got some inspiration from this page of art from various games you guys should check out if you need ideas/ motivation:

http://www.creativeuncut.com/cat06.html

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa314/D_Chap/model_sheet_2.jpg

[freedie]

haya guys so here heh is little update but still just test i need to unwrap the whole mesh now ouch...i got still some free polys maybe i use it for gun....loot of time i was thinking about face if i leave it so very low poly....for what add more polys there?when in general u can see just very little of face everything else is under hairs....or what u think:???:

http://img40.picoodle.com/img/img40/9/9/30/f_05m_09ffae0.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/9/9/30/f_05m_09ffae0.jpg&srv=img40)

[VinsanityV20]

Haha - the colors aren't final....except maybe the torso and right arm. I was rushing the color job. In fact, I was rushing the art for the legs in general - I don't know if I like what he's currently got. Figure the torso and the pelvis are good enough to go though - really gotta make the model sheets soon though. Thanks for the comments

[VinsanityV20]

oh yea, and freedie, I like the face as is. I just can't see what's so "redesigned" about Alucard as is. He's gonna look exactly like Alucard should, which is great, but this Comp is a "Redesigned Character" competition. Don't know what you could do to fix him right now...

[omnicypher]

"Only the head left now, and I'm not looking forward to texturing it. Anyone got any good photo references of fat, mustachioed and sleazy plumber faces? :P"

[omnicypher]

does anyone know of any good tutorials for modeling wrinkly pants?

[EvilKnight]

Alright! Finally made a sketch I like.
My main goal here was to make him look older, less like a 12 years old boy with a girly face pumped on steriod! I think with this sketch, I've acomplished that. Basically made a smaller head, smaller eyes, more jaw. Also added a bit on the equipment like shoulder pads, took off the pants and under shirt, added pics on the boots and the wrist pads and there will be a chest pad where the actual belts that holds the sword, shield and shoulder pads. I want the colors of the actual cloth on top of the chain mill to be more of a darker green, otherwize, its too flashy for a fighter!

Anyway, here is my reference!
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/7812/linkjm9.jpg

and here is my concept!
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/24/linkredesignxe3.jpg
Any C&C is more then welcome.

[eiadahnim]

Hi everyone,

I'm really new to this forum from the registration point of view,

However, I'm really visiting it from time to time. Thanks GOD; I had the chance to post a little replay to you nice guys.

Most of the posts are really very brilliant work especially "EvilKnight-Zilda" and "freedie- Helsing" but I really have a question for those pro, In what bases you are selecting your concept? & what do you really want to achieve?, since, your "both" concepts are really very good choices. I'm not trying to criticize... no.... I'm just looking forward to enhance my work flow through your ideas and concepts making.

Regards to all of you, :smug:

[freedie]

VinsanityV20 hmm well dont now if he look the same way really i saw hellsing movie very long time before i got only one reference image from original and use it like guide to make an base model and everything else i was searching google for gothic images also that face is not original i find it like additional variants....so i create from shoes to head what i find on net(ref images) and it hasnt anything to do with alucard.....like i sad my inspiracy was in gothic images what i try to apply on the base model....i already send an concept image second post of me and there i was showing all that stuff if i right remember it was on 6th page but not sure
eiadahnim what a want to achieve? so first of all make better models:D really am not a pro no way i just still learning and i got big rests in texturing parts yea i can see that in modelling i am better like before but that damn textures:wall:

[Neoncypher]

Hi Everyone,

Really liking all the work you guys are doing -- I've decided against bananaman as I feel that he is a character that can't be improved :D ..So instead I've decided to do Gollum from LOTR. I read the books before the films were made, so I've always had my own thoughts on what Gollum should look like..I've done a quick sketch of his head - I'll hopefully finish it off at work today and upload it tonight..

[EvilKnight]

eiadahnim: Well, when you work on contracts for client, the first thing to keep in mind is to acheive the clients vision of things. In this case, I treated myself as a client on this idea. Told myself some constructive critics about the original Link then look at how to make him more realistic in many diffrent ways. Keeping in mind he is some kind of elf. Another thing is that it is a really good practice in the overall, you are forced to draw your ideas, no matter how good or not you are, which will make you better, as well as modeling, texturing, rigging, posing, etc.... I'm just looking forward to enhance my work flow through your ideas and concepts making. Practice is the only thing that really can make you better, and a lot of reading on the subject!

Will do the Ortho view today, and post them sometime later on!

[fiveways]

Everything's looking good guys. I think I'm going to hop in too, still deciding on characters. I was leaning towards a capcom character since I regret not getting in on the street fighter 2 character redesign comp @ polycount a while back, its good to see vin doing megaman, one of my favs. I originally wanted to do strider hiryu but I'm working on a male character for a class I'm in so I'm thinking for a female character I'd like to try my hand at gum from jet set radio :)

here's what she looks like for those who don't know
http://www.handlemy.biz/gum.jpg

[EvilKnight]

Alright, here is my orthos and props sheet!
Decided to change the hat for a hood in a similar shape...
C&C Welcome!
http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/8338/linkredesignorthoswo0.jpg

[BiG ToE-3DT]

ya know, I was thinking of doing Zenpachi from bleach. The idea was to make him as if he was a real human and not some cartoon, but now after playing Heavenly Sword for the past few days, I'm thinking, what would Zenpachi look like, if he, was, a she?

[Brazucka]

This comp is hot, hu? Cool.

A little up. Did some work on it´s torso,
now I´m refining the legs. After that, my
intention is to improve the feet, hands,
face, back and finish/refine the wings.

:wave:

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a84/brazucka/Batman07.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a84/brazucka/Batman07a.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a84/brazucka/Batman07b.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a84/brazucka/Batman07c.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a84/brazucka/Batman07d.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a84/brazucka/Batman07e.jpg

See ya!

[obibok]

ok so heres my update.... its about 7000 r8 now ....

edit (iwe uploaded wrong image .....)
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/4329/batsprogres07id9.png


comments and suggestions are welcomed

man asks for wires man gets his wires

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6311/batswire1za9.jpg

[Brazucka]

Obibok, could post the wires, please?

[freedie]

obibok the head is little bit big and legs to short but model looks great

[Archeris]

Okay i am having a problem. I'm almost at 1.3k Triangles and i got quite a bit off the model done! I meen, I got 10k triangles to spare and I want to use em all. Also I never normal mapped before. Whats the best presedure? 1st make a highploy and from the highpoly go to the low poly?


106713


106714

Wire

[EvilKnight]

Hey guys, little 3D update here, with the polycounter that shows!
Only have from waist down so far lol :P Trying to mainly keep quads for now, So I can bring in ZBrush and detail the crap out of that!

C&C more then welcome!
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/5999/linkwip001yq9.jpg

[obibok]

well actually i dont know whats with his proportion maybe there are some problems with rendering .... ( i havent check that before .....) ... but heres my references

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/9964/refsqo2.jpg

[Tank[NL]]

Archeris: got the same problem mate...

EvilKnight: look'n good so far man

obibok: looks ok. the head and neck are a bit too long. notch em down a tad and you should be ok

[RiCkFX]

great work everyone, i love that grown up link.

heres a lil update from me, used different colors and tried to add a necklace - thoo, that seems hard :/
and altogether im not happy with the neck itself, any ideas aout that?
http://nfsaddons.com/rick/contests/threedy/17/concept_wip6.jpg

- Rick.

[L3XICON]

superb work everyone! would like to comment on each, but so many! been away for a couple of days and pages of great updates :)

Obibok really liking the model, especially all the accessories on leg and belt. and the cloak looks great. in terms of proportions, what initially grabbed my attention when looking at it against your referance, was that the shoulders are significantly lower than in the referance, especially considering your character is wearing bulky shoulder guards. maybe shortening the neck, and raising the shoulders could make all the differance :D

[freedie]

so now i got really headpain that damn hairs i spend a whole day just with this and cant make better resuld

http://img01.picoodle.com/img/img01/9/10/1/f_06m_6def0c3.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/9/10/1/f_06m_6def0c3.jpg&srv=img01)

[ELACROIX]

Here my concept hpe you like it

[EvilKnight]

Wow, people are gettin into it ;)
Keep 'em comming!

Little Update on the mesh! C&C more then welcome!
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/5849/linkwip002jd8.jpg

[Mwhahaha]

Some of you might be confused by the redesign part of this competition. Essentially you are just low poly modeling the existing character.

Thats not the goal. Im not going to point fingers or anything. Just urge some of you to really look at your character and your "redesign" and think, hmm, is this a different design, or did I just change his belt and his boots?

Would I be able to see the difference if it was in silhouette?

Thats all Im sayin.

[Hollywood00]

Im going to be doing a different version of batman...
It is kind of a blend between megaman and the dark knight...very cool.
I believe the artist goes by the name of Red-J and if I am incorrect please let me know so due credit can be given.

[defaultalias]

Mwhahaha- right on. get with it guys, lets see some changes!

freedie- are you photosourcing the hair? could be the cause of pain for ya. i'd hand paint them, that way it'd be easier to grab an alpha mask from them.
nice hair tutorial:Link (http://www.3dtotal.com/team/Tutorials_3/lowpoly_hair/lowpoly_hair_01.asp)

[setschaos]

Yeah, I'm thinking that I'm going to join with the choice between three. I was originally thinking of a Pokemon remake, a more serious ash or something, but the more I think of it, the more I want to do a character who just takes up the whole screen with awesomeness and awe, such as Bain or Venom. I think that they would have interesting remakes and I can't wait to hit up the creativity.

Oh btw, in response to the forum where we discussed the poly limit for games, I worked with Stainless Steel Studios, and the generic RTS used roughly 2000 polys (not tris) for a tank. I think 10k should be more than enough!

Looking forward to all the original remakes (oximoron there lol) Good luck all!

[Agent-X]

http://aycu09.webshots.com/image/30408/2000981826661053984_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2000981826661053984)

[VinsanityV20]

freedie: hmmm, I guess you're right. Now that I think of it, by the time Alucard is that transformed, he's usually somewhat obscured (with tendrils and all those eyes and sh** coming out). I guess you did a good job if I thought it was the real deal! Can't wait to see him with some final textures!

Also, I redesigned the legs on my Mega Man concept before I move on to the model sheeting:
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q164/vinsanityv20/Megaman3DT-2.jpg [/IMG]

It looks a lot more solid, and recalls Mega Man's traditional boots. I'm moving onto model sheets now:) The colors I will think about when it comes time to texture

[carlosf]

EDIT: I deleted my last msg.

EvilKnight:I loved the model.

freedie:I really liked those straps and shoes. I don't know the character, it looks really menacing.

Agent-X:Nice going man, but there is something wrong with its belly (is it a armor?)

VinsanityV20:Nice concept man. Is he pointing to his shoes?

Here is what i've done so far. I aint having much time to work on it, and im afraid i wont finish it. Ill try to work on the head till sat. PLZ C&C are welcome!:smug:

[Robbiek1000]

VinsanityV20 - the whole thing is looking way better...and I really like the legs. To be honest I kinda liked the color you had for the original rough concept. I think keeping the original megaman color is important and then just vary that color a tad in certain areas of megaman, and then through in a nice dark grey for accent and I think it would be pretty rockin'!

Heres a little update, I hope to have the rest of this model textured by tomorrow then I'm gonna start on the "extras." I think her breasts are to big for her figure so I'm going to seriously tweak that ASAP!

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k187/Robbiek800/Vin/WIP3.jpg

PS. Vince, your a total ass.....no joke....totally pissed at you! Yeah, i edited this after you got off AIM.

[VinsanityV20]

RobbieShe's looking much better now that she has some textures on'er, but yea - pretty anorexic dude. there's a difference between thin and anorexic - she's the latter (the definition in the arms shows malnutrition....honestly the legs are at a bad angle, so I can't say for sure why exactly that's odd. It's probably just the fact that her ankles are so damn small, they can't support the rest of the body?) ...and yea, I bet you're pissed at me now;) God I hate AIM....

Carlos hahaha - I didn't notice that he was, in fact, pointing to his shoes:) My default hand pose when sketching is that - guess it works out well since the post was about the redesigned legs. Nice catch, and nice model dude. There are a few too many tris for my taste though, but it's mostly clean. The ****** and knees look like they'll deform well, but the shoulders look a little messy and something's going on with the boots - look at the front render; the right boot is really bright for some reason.

[Robbiek1000]

Hmmmm, I think your right, I'm going to work on the legs.....but yes malnutrition is what I'm going for......trying to take a lot of Vin's physical appearances straight from the book.

BTW, Vince, check your private messages...i sent you one a few days ago!

[freedie]

defaultalias oh man thx a lot for that tutorial i start to do like that guy but now a must go sleep i got 6oclock and i cant see properly...that damn hairs!!!i was messing with them for whole day

[VinsanityV20]

EvilKnight: your model is looking absolutely sic! You're redesigning Link from Zelda right? So that he has actual armor - some that can actual stand up to all the mythical beasts he does battle against? Seriously, it's looking badass:)

[Agent-X]

carlosf yes that is armor. I believe it is like a belt armor thing he wheres around his waist. If you look up God of War, you will see thats exactly what he wheres. I am contemplating on doing those leather straps that hang down a different way, the same way they do in the game, which I believe is painting the straps and having a transparency map. This way I avoid having the darn straps penetrating through eachother and looking nasty. I like the seperate pieces and having the shadows, that looks nice and all but I am thinking why they didnt do in the actual game, and I do believe its because of that very reason of penetrating through eachother and collision and all that good stuff. So I am going to try the same thing and see how that works. Theres plusses to this, I will have more geometry to create more cool stuff.

[Brazucka]

Question...

If I have 10k tris to use, but I don´t know how, what should I do? hahaha...

[Agent-X]

make armor, accessories, weapons, and more details. I can go through 10k like water. I have no problem adding more geometry. Like in my model, I even have teeth, a tongue. In the game God of War Kratos talks, so I am trying to add all the same features. I will even add some of my own. I am going to try to make up an interpretation of Kratos how I would see it for a ps3 game. Us having the ability use 10k polys and a 2k texture is sweet. I am taking full advantage. Just add more detail to the model.

[defaultalias]

not 100% full in yet, just playing around.
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i101/defaultalias/PHead.gif

[Quasar]

Heyo

Have a rough concept going, have a look:

http://www.juliushettig.com/MDK/MDK_Rough_Concept.gif

Gonna' start collecting reference soon and begin refining the concept.

Regarding other's works, I have to echo what's been said that some of you guys should really push the designs more because they're looking a lot like the originals. Don't even look at the original characters, base your design on their written description or simply take all the elements from the design and rework them to be functional the way you imagine it. Think of this contest as an exercise in finding, or refining, your style and to make something completely original and baddass.

Cheers

[Brazucka]

Beautiful!!!! That "MDK" sketch is awesome.
:shy:

:xyz:
Ok, some up´s again. Hope you like it.
I´m trying to take this model to something
more "****** Roar" like.

See ya!
:dance:

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a84/brazucka/Batman08.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a84/brazucka/Batman08a.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a84/brazucka/Batman08b.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a84/brazucka/Batman08c.jpg

Oh. I´d like to add some fur around the
neck and some other body parts, like these
guys...

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a84/brazucka/LE_Bat.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a84/brazucka/c-big-brown-bat.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a84/brazucka/Bat471075.jpg

Should I use planes with aphas? Any suggestions on how to do that?

Thanks.

Oh2: If I want to close the wings....??? Bones, etc?
Any tip??????

Thanks again.

[Fenixy]

there is tutorial on 3dtotal how to make hairs, same way you can make it on neck (poly,alfas)
wings- bones =)

wont to enter to,confused on character chois but stoped on this, Rikku from Final Fantasy X.Main idea make here more *chibi* like for kindom hearts style, and with BIG gun.Hate how Square enix did here in FFx-2,

here is concept i found

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/4102/3343tv3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[VinsanityV20]

Goust: concept you found or did? I'm confused.
Oh, and Brazuka: I'd totally go with exactly what you said. Planes w/ alphas for the furry parts, and setting up bones for the Wings. These are low poly assets, so you really can't do anything else. There *might* be something else you can do for the Wings though - 'xforms', or something. DChap, you did it for the wings on your Angel of Death dude for the Gauntlet; what's that called? -, but I personally am unfamiliar with the technique. And if you still have some polys to kill, why not add some spikes onto your devil dude? I see a tough monster like him and I'm surprised there aren't spikes coming out of his back and arms...
Lookin' cool regardless though:)

[setschaos]

Alright, so in the end, I chose Bane from the Batman series of comics (also in Batman and Robin the movie) I think that the amount of wires to pump bane up should have been increased and that he (although bad ass without any sort of weapon or armor) looked sweet with a new age gladiator-type armor. Heres the concept.

[BiG ToE-3DT]

Robbiek1000: I don't think the breast are too big for her, it's just the positioning. They seem to be off to the side as if they boobs are real and she is laying down, on her skinny back.

Agent-X: make sure your design of Kratos is a ReDesign, right now it looks like the same model you would find in the game.

Brazucka: you don't have to use every last tri. Infact, lookimg at your model, I would say your just about done. Trying to force more tris into a model is a bad thing.

[Brazucka]

Hahahaha... Thanks Big Toe. You said just
what I was almost baggin to hear, haha...

I feel like I´m pushing, trying to force something...
I gues I´m gonna try to refine a little bit more
the wings and the face, and soon I´ll be done.

See ya dudes!

Oh, I guess I forgot to say that my choosen
character is "Batman - The Dark Night", hehe...

[EvilKnight]

Vinsanity: EvilKnight: your model is looking absolutely sic! You're redesigning Link from Zelda right? So that he has actual armor - some that can actual stand up to all the mythical beasts he does battle against? Seriously, it's looking badass


Thanks man, thats nice to hear! Yap, its Link, with more armor, diffrent hood (its an actual hood on a shirt type like) there is a chain mill on it, I've also added a chest plate to protect the heart, even though he has a chain mill, you can never be to cautious when sword and magic figthing lol :P Redesigned the sword, need to work a bit on the design of the shield. Was thinking of making his hair brown instead of blondish... Maybe instead of bright green, I'd go for dark grey for the outfit, as green like that is way to noticable, you want the figther not to be spotted.

Thanks Carlos! Apreciate it :)

Everyone: Keep up the amazing work, this thread is a blast :)

[Fenixy]

VinsanityV20 found

that's one fast sketch :hmm:
p.s she killed Cloud and taked his sword:haha:

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/9666/84951981cq4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[RiCkFX]

dumb question, anyone got some tipps for drawing shoes/boots/feets?
im kinda lost on that :/

- Rick.

[EvilKnight]

Rick, take a picture of a boot, in the angle you want, scan your picture (hope you have a digital cam to avoid scanning) then photoshop it on place, then trace it, add design! Sometimes, when I need body pose, I take pictures of myself in pose, then use it as references or even as template! If you have a digital camera at hands, nothing you can't do!

Cheers;)

Good work everyone! Keep up the good work!:)

[EvilKnight]

Goust: I really like the fact that you didn't gave her huge boobs, too many characters in games and all, they all have huge boobs.. But yet, when I walk down town ottawa, its really not like in those games and cartoon with ALL the womens busty :P
I like your concept!

P.S.: BTW its not taked, its took :P

[TheMadArtist]

Ok, I'm calling Darkwing Duck. :) Got a concept, just need to finalize it and I'll post it in the next few days.

[RiCkFX]

Darkwing Duck is the best cartoon character ever, Mike :)

thank you Jonny, i will see if i can do that, yeah i got a Sony DSC-W40, should do the job :p - gotta pose infront of my ford fusion - or even just a cupboard instead of the classic bonneville that is ment to be in the background :/

- Rick.

[EvilKnight]

The Mad Artist: Darkwing Duck. Omfg.... I haven't seen that in years... I don't know why I didn't tought of that one :P Good Choice mate :)

RickFX: No probleme man, an artist should use everything in his power to acheive what he wants, its just that a little creativity doesn't hurt :P

ALL: I'm having a hard time to find good front and side 30ish years old male face Orthographic views! Anyone have a suggestion or some I can use? Would really be helpfull and apreciated!

[BiG ToE-3DT]

EvilKnight: have you poped in a movie yet. I'm sure you could find a good actor out there somewhere. Maybe Bruce Willis, Jim Carrey, or even the new guy playing Bat Man.

[EvilKnight]

well, I googled a lot of faces, but couldnt really find Ortho material! I tried playing some AVI and pausing where I wanted, and screengrabing it, but doesnt work!

I don't want to go trough the trouble of opening it in Premiere and going after the frames lol :P

If I really can't find, I'll go search for a friend and take pics :P

[Sebiomegas]

Hey guys!
Here's my new project.
It's Mike Iron from the Iron and the maiden comic book.
Quite a challenge for me.I'm planning on using ZBrush3.

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/4867/michaelironconceptgr8.jpg

Here's what I got so far.

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/3596/sebtremblaycomp17xq4.png

[EvilKnight]

Hey guys, here is an Ortho view of the head of my character, decided to draw it! I would like some feedback regarding proportions or what not!

Any C&C is more then welcome!
http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/269/linkredesignfaceorthosmw7.jpg

[ianchaos]

Well I've already blown through almost half of my tris on just the head and hat, but I plan on putting him in a suit with crisp straight lines and he will have a ridiculously small lower body. Hopefully I can pull it off without having to scrounge around for polys.
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/ianchaos/1.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/ianchaos/head2.gif
Some really great work/concepts so far. There's also a few people who seem to be confusing re-designing for re-creating...this is the perfect competition to flex some creative muscle. So come on people, get out there and do some Re-designing before BigToe puts his toe down...nobody wants to see that happen. :)

[Robbiek1000]

Hey Guys, heres another update I got goin'. I fixed the boobies, (made them smaller and pushed them more together) fixed the ankles, and made some minor tweaks here and there. Also in this WIP I gave her a scowling face!!

Now its time for more modeling!!!!

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k187/Robbiek800/Vin/WIP11.jpg

[setschaos]

And the WIP:

[D-Chap]

EvilKnight - Wow is that Link? It looks like a much older, less happy version- which is a good thing. Very cool take on him- and I think it looks ok proportion-wise.

ianchaos- Yes that is a LOT of polys in the face- I'd tend to say that actually goes outside the boundaries of 'low poly' and is more along the lines of an animated movie.

Here is my model sheet for a redesigned Eomer from Lord of the Rings. Here is a pic of Eomer (Karl Urban) from the movies:

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa314/D_Chap/eomer-promo2.jpg

With this concept I really wanted to put a lot of effort into giving him different kinds of cool clothes and armor, and really change his persona. I guess he's what Eomer might look like if he were in a Japanese RPG. ;P I also spent a long time on this model sheet trying many different styles, clothes, colors, and thinking how I'm going to model him and apply spec/ normal maps. Hopefully the prep results in a better final model.

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa314/D_Chap/model_sheet_4.jpg

[Brazucka]

Ai caramba!!!! Trying to unwrap the mesh...
I´m almost getting nuts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[VinsanityV20]

First off, TheMadArtist; rock- the hell -on. Darkwing Duck RULES! Can't wait to see what you've got in mind for his redesign!

Second of all, here's my model sheet for my Mega Man redesign. Close enough to start modeling anyway:) Once the model is done, I'll do some clay renders and play around with the color palette to make sure it'll work. Hope you guys like what you see, but as always, C&C are welcome!

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q164/vinsanityv20/MegaManmodelsheet.jpg

and just for more reference, the original design rough and some other pictures of Mega Man

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q164/vinsanityv20/Megaman3DT-2.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q164/vinsanityv20/megamanlegends1.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q164/vinsanityv20/megamanxcommand_012904_08.jpg

[Agent-X]

Here are some updates of ideas running through my head. I was thinking of going for a Spartan look like in 300. I am curious what you guys think. Please tell me yay or nay. The funny thing is when I play the game God of War looking at Kratos makes me think of a wild barbarian savage like character. I could use some input on what you guys think would look cool on Kratos.
http://aycu23.webshots.com/image/31182/2002500409424582132_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002500409424582132)
http://aycu32.webshots.com/image/30831/2002563337801715836_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002563337801715836)

[freedie]

agent x: try to put on his some body armor, cuirass armor it seems to be best way, i can see him with cloak too like the way the spartan look its cool also make him some big round shield.....also if u can try to play diablo II there u can see how good can barbarian look like in different armors....just try to search google for reference images u will definetly find something that perfectly paste to ur character

[bb0x]

Finally did some more work on mario.. just finished the head...

The topology is still a bit messy... but meh.. >_< too tired to even -think- about fixing it....

http://bbox.sylorn.com/random/mario0005.jpg

It's at 5552 tri's at the moment. I'll prolly save allot of tri by reducing the tris on the legs and arms. So i'm not too concerned about my tri count.

Btw I'm nurbs modelling this thing. Nurbs modelling is cool I like it allot, Basicly I made a really lowpoly base mesh put a hypernurbs modifier on the lowpoly mesh and edited where needed... pretty simple and nice results imo. Thats basicly why i have so many tris around the lower arms and lower legs.

[defaultalias]

i'm actually kinda liking the flow of the body, but check out the difference in density of the box and its handle.
nice presentation btw.

[carlosf]

Agent-X: If you look at him like a barbarian character, then make him in barbarian style. I like diablo II char, but i think a barbarian should not wear so much armor as in diablo II. I take Conan as the major ref. Look for reference and choose what is best suited for your char.

bb0x: Nice modeling, he looks really ... fat. :smug: . Keep up.

[Rhauk]

Not much progress here, I still have no idea how to make the head texture, and I'm still not quite satisfied with the head mesh :\

One question though, which 'stache fits him the best?

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/777/asdasdaku4.png

[carlosf]

Rhauk: I´d pick the second.

[Fenixy]

Rhauk:i like right one,looks more like mario
evilknight : d'oh forgot irregular verbs =) thx

whatever, here is fast sketchs i did.Guess i'm redy to start modeling :smug:
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/643/rikuskcopyhm9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[TheMadArtist]

Not much progress here, I still have no idea how to make the head texture, and I'm still not quite satisfied with the head mesh :\

One question though, which 'stache fits him the best?

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/777/asdasdaku4.png

I'd go for the right one, but I'd probally make it even bigger, and have it come to a point and curve upward a bit.

[Rhauk]

Seems like everyone favors the the right one, eh?

Remember though, I want him to look sleazy. REALLY sleazy.
In fact, I just remembered an episode of Cold Case I watched some time ago (checked it up, it's called Lover's Lane) where there's a guy exactly like I want this guy to be.

For those who want to see who I mean, go to tv-links.co.uk. The episode is there somewhere. I'll check it out myself and see if I can get some good pictures of the guy (although the quality is sorta... crappy).


Edit:

Meh, after looking at that episode I realize that I will probably never be able to achieve that level of awful. That man is so incredibly disgusting D:
There were few good shots of his face so I couldn't really copy him either, but I did some changes and personally I think Mario look much more disgusting now :3
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/6554/utennavnbj1.png

[omnicypher]

nice looking mario so far. adding a little stubble and maybe some uneven discoloration in the skin tone might make him more sleezy and a double chin with some fat wrinkles on his face couldnt hurt.

[Rhauk]

nice looking mario so far. adding a little stubble and maybe some uneven discoloration in the skin tone might make him more sleezy and a double chin with some fat wrinkles on his face couldnt hurt.

I will try my best :B
He isn't textured at the moment, because I really don't know where to start.

Time to look up some tutorials, I guess.

[Brazucka]

Woooooooooooooooooooowww...

Very good entries. Mario is getting
really nice, except by the look of his
hair, I thinks it´s kinda weird.

So many good ideas that I´ll resume:
"Keeeeep going, this comp is awesome."
(Ya, I know, I´m getting crazy.)

So, no more bla, bla, bla. Some up´s.
I´m painting the textures right now.

See ya!

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a84/brazucka/Batman09.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a84/brazucka/Batman09a.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a84/brazucka/Batman09b.jpg

:drool::wall::dance::wave::D

[Christian M.]

Here's my idea.
I'll make a Sci-Fi redesign of this McFarlane character.
Will be able to finish without any problems.
Will do basemesh tomorow night and saturday morning, then I'll Zbrush that mofo to death for a whole week.

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff290/Tenserkainen/1735-1.jpg

[omnicypher]

ive been looking for tutorials on making wrinkled pants with good meshflow, but i cant find much of anything. i can barely even find any 3d characters that wear wrinkly pants. i guess no one really likes modeling pants, because most characters i come across usually have hard, mechanical parts like armor, or their so cartoony that wrinkles dont exist. i could just cover up my ignorance like everyone else and throw more armor on there, but that doesnt teach me much. once i figure out a good method im going to have to make a tutorial on it.

[Rhauk]

ive been looking for tutorials on making wrinkled pants with good meshflow, but i cant find much of anything. i can barely even find any 3d characters that wear wrinkly pants. i guess no one really likes modeling pants, because most characters i come across usually have hard, mechanical parts like armor, or their so cartoony that wrinkles dont exist. i could just cover up my ignorance like everyone else and throw more armor on there, but that doesnt teach me much. once i figure out a good method im going to have to make a tutorial on it.

It's great to see someone else who wants to learn something from this competition! Personally I've never modeled anything higher than 2k tris, and to top it off I made this guy without my usual technique (box modeling). I can say for sure I learned a lot, and now I'm trying to learn how to paint face textures~

I've tried wrinkled clothes before, and it's not easy. I'm looking forward to that tutorial :3

[Christian M.]

Omnicypher: You're using max right???Can't be simplier

(This method is only good if you intend to do a normal map)

Turbosmooth your model up to 100000 polys at least .

Then use the Paint Deformation tool in editable poly.
Play with the brush size and use small brush strength values
to achieve desired results.
You might also want to play with the curve in the "Brush options" add a point or 2 on it and play with it,this way you can get crispier or flatter wrinkles.

Then all those details will show up fine in your normal map.
(And as for normal map there's plenty of tut out there
(3ds Max's user reference even cover the topic)

(Hide some polys and work on small parts if you feel max is suffering)

hope that helps

[Rhauk]

That's an interesting technique, Christian. Unfortunately, my computer gets REEEEAAAALLY slow when I'm going above 50k tris.. It's sort of like Mudbox though, isn't it?
Speaking of Mudbox, I really need to get a nice tutorial on how to export maps from it. My maps always end up awful and not working properly. >:|

[omnicypher]

ive seen it done that way, but i think theres a simpler, lower poly solution with a good meshflow out there and im going to find it. heres what ive gotten so far: it needs a little work, but eventually ill figure out the meshflow and simplify it to hopefully mostly extrudes, welds, and chamfers.

[Brazucka]

Gonna make a break now.
:wave:

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a84/brazucka/Batman09d.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a84/brazucka/Batman09e.jpg

Omnicypher: Did you take a look at this one?
It´s very good. Pay attention at the pants.
http://www.3dtotal.com/team/Tutorials_3/low_poly_character/low_poly_01.asp

:wave:

[bb0x]

i'm actually kinda liking the flow of the body, but check out the difference in density of the box and its handle.
nice presentation btw.

Yeah I know basically I'm just modelling right now and not paying to much attention to the technical stuff.

[EvilKnight]

Brazucka: nice texture start man :)

I think I'm done with the model, at 9991Tri, I'm pretty happy with the resultso far! I've added a small knife and the pouch attached on the belt! Going to start the UVs soon!

Any C&C welcome!
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/483/linkwip003wx1.jpg

[bb0x]

Evilknight-
I'm loving it, looking forward to the finished outcome.

Brazucka-
Loving the texture it looks really nice man keep it up.