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[Mr.T]

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Race: Human
Class: Invoker
Artifact Weapon: Light/Holy

"The Orphan Unit"

We always talk about men and women going for war, but what about the kids?
The Orphan Unit was made few hundred years after the disappearance of
electrical and mechanical systems, the big war between the 9 rival planets
killed too many, leaving children on their own.

Because of their unknown future, and because many of them wanted revenge
and unleash their rage given from their loss. They joined a special Unit called
"The Orphan Unit", where they will learn the art of magic fighting.

The Orphan Unit became quickly one of the deadliest Unit ever made, many
warriors didn't expect such power from a child, and many warriors simply
couldn't fight against them. The power of imagination of a child is enormous,
this gives a wider range of magic spell / weapon, they can hide easily also.

Many warriors still think that "The Orphan Unit" is a legend, something the
planet of 3dtotal made up to scare others. It's a good thing, cause they are
not expecting what will come.

Current concept progress:
http://www.mrt-prodz.com/mrt/v2/picz/lowpoly/dw3/progress.jpg

[Mr.T]

Rought Idea (still unsure about it):

"The Orphan Unit"

We always talk about men and women going for war, but what about the kids?
The Orphan Unit was made few hundred years after the disappearance of
electrical and mechanical systems, the big war between the 9 rival planets
killed too many, leaving children on their own.

Because of their unknown future, and because many of them wanted revenge
and unleash their rage given from their loss. They joined a special Unit called
"The Orphan Unit", where they will learn the art of magic fighting.

The Orphan Unit became quickly one of the deadliest Unit ever made, many
warriors didn't expect such power from a child, and many warriors simply
couldn't fight against them. The power of imagination of a child is enormous,
this gives a wider range of magic spell / weapon, they can hide easily also.

Many warriors still think that "The Orphan Unit" is a legend, something the
planet of 3dtotal made up to scare others. It's a good thing, cause they are
not expecting what will come.

[MonteCristo]

Yeah. I like it. But the design needs to stand out there, so be careful... You could easily just create a bunch of kids that don't stand out. I guess you need to think about how you would make a kid look threatening. As you say: "many warriors didn't expect such power from a child, and many warriors simply couldn't fight against them"...

Therein lies the key, I suspect.

[deathcab1]

nice idea. are you going to make one child or a bunch? because once you start adding 2-3 guys in there the tri's are going to rise (and the detail on each down)

[Mr.T]

Yeah it's a tricky concept, I need to think more about it. It was more like a kid
casting a magic beast or something over him, to protect, and attack enemies.

[MonteCristo]

Well, you could always suggest there are more than one by the way you arrange your concept art, and then home in on one.

[BiG ToE-3DT]

here is a thought, do with it what you want. But you could always take a simple plane and use an oppacity map on it to cut out the shape of another child, then with the oppacity map, you can play with the oppacity, so in the end, you would have your main child standing in the front with like 4-whatever dark child like figures standing behind him.

[Mr.T]

here is a thought, do with it what you want. But you could always take a simple plane and use an oppacity map on it to cut out the shape of another child, then with the oppacity map, you can play with the oppacity, so in the end, you would have your main child standing in the front with like 4-whatever dark child like figures standing behind him.

That's a really good though! I'll think more about it (there is no rush :D )
but I like it.

[Mr.T]

A very fast concept, I don't like it at all haha :haha:
http://www.mrt-prodz.com/mrt/v2/picz/lowpoly/dw3/concept-01.jpg

I will do more research on paper cause it really looks awful,
and the colors really disturbs me hmm..

[deathcab1]

tbh i think your on the right track.

personally i dont like the red cape though, its giving me a bullfighter vibe (either because its red or the way its positioned im not exactly sure)

[Ghosty!]

Yeah lose the cape...

Maybe explore the stereotypical old-english style orphan; malnutrition, raggy clothes etc.

Or even explore the idea of a hunter style character. He could have a shaggy dog as a mounted pet...

[Lord Rancid]

Tetsuo!!!!!!!

[Beindulin]

I'd love to see this head towards an old english style or a more ragged look to the character. At the moment with the red cape it looks like he's playing dress-up... not war :) Just give him some red jocks to wear on the outside ;P

From your story i picture a dirty ragged, hardened child. This has more a feel of schoolboy IMO. Love the concept. Love the idea! Really looking forward to see where you go with this!

BTW: Why is everyone doing red and blue? some type of Orange would work nicely to really make the blue sing lol.

[deathcab1]

An idea? (http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0316396/Ss/0316396/PP_5576D09100071_rgb.jpg.html?path=gallery&path_key=0316396) :)

[Mr.T]

Tetsuo!!!!!!!

+1

It looks too much like Tetsuo imho. I will loose the cape as you said,
I think I found another nice outfit I'll post that after work :)

Thank you all for the feedback ;)

Deathcab, you rock ^^ I will keep some details from this ref, I will also
go toward Anekin Skywalker when he was young (I like the simple outfit)
and will add few details.

[Mr.T]

From your story i picture a dirty ragged, hardened child. This has more a feel of schoolboy IMO.

My friend Yolt told me the exactsame thing! :haha: Why not giving him a dirty
schoolboy outfit, as I said to him I'll keep the idea see if it works, thank you!

[deathcab1]

+1

Deathcab, you rock ^^ I will keep some details from this ref, I will also
go toward Anekin Skywalker when he was young (I like the simple outfit)
and will add few details.

lol no problem. its one of the first things i thought of when you started talking about a rouge gang of children.

[Mr.T]

Need more research :P I like the bag idea, I can put there our logo, we can
think he has some magic stuff in there. Or even a magic book.

I don't want to put on him heavy stuff (no metal protection for example)
since it's a child he can't lift much weight. I'm still thinking about casting a
monster behind him "for protection"... hmmm.. need a lot of reflexion :haha:

http://www.mrt-prodz.com/mrt/v2/picz/lowpoly/dw3/concept-02.jpg

[anima3d]

i like the 1st one on the 2nd line. I would like to see him as summoner with a huge evil ghost on his back ;)

[Mr.T]

Since the beginning I wanted the child to cast a magic monster to protect
him/attack enemy. I think I'll go with the rock giant if I use the following style
of the child.

http://www.mrt-prodz.com/mrt/v2/picz/lowpoly/dw3/concept-03.jpg

Feedback is really welcome, please excuse my 2d concept I really don't know
how to draw :haha:

[L3XICON]

hey Mr.T awesome ideas for the concepts. the idea of a small child with such power is frightening :P I go with anima3d in that the child with the cloak (first one on second row) looks the best. the over-sized cloak emphasises the character's smallness.

looking forward to updates :D

[que]

I'm really digging the back story. Yeah The child with the oversized cloak is the one. That would be such a trip to see this humonganoid of a rocky beast appear before you. That's gonna demolish those bots. Keep it up.

[Firehazurd]

I know it's just because the face is a placeholder... but I'm startling to fall in love with the featureless bald head look. :)

[Tank[NL]]

ooh man, that is looking sweet. reminds me of Shadow of the Colossus. and anythind that is reminicend of grandure is sure to be a good thing :)

[Mr.T]

I'm trying to figure the look of the child (sorry it's crapy :haha: ) I'm not
sure about the colors. Need to work more on it :)

http://www.mrt-prodz.com/mrt/v2/picz/lowpoly/dw3/concept-04.jpg

His little pocket contains magic stuff (powder to cast spell etc..), I'm planning
to make him also a bag where he would carry a magic book, on the bag will
be our logo.

I want his face to look somehow with a sad / cold expression.
Advices are welcome! Thanks :wave:

edit: if a moderator could rename the thread in " DWIII - Mr.T - The Orphan Unit"
I would really appreciate :)

[Steamtrooper]

Tetsuo!!!!!!!

Tee Hee!, thats exactly what I thought the moment I saw it, and If i recall at one point in the manga version Akira is dressed up like Tetsuo, looking even more like this.

Anyhoo, I like the concept of the O-Core, and I guess a killing machines scan of a kid would mostly result in a 'NO THREAT DETECTED' message, (maybe you could have your beauty shot through a machines eyes with a readout?).

Whichever direction you take it, I would try to visually represent the loss of the parents somehow (most obvious would be the artifact), and also the childlike aspects that remain of the warrior child, otherwise you might just end up with a small ninja/warrior or an EMO. Basically im saying realy use the strenghts of your concept to strike a note in the viewer.

PS. a couple of sad looking kids that may help. http://mywebsite.register.com/db2/00120/yelromusa.com/_uimages/sad.jpg
http://images.google.co.uk/url?q=http://www.johnsiebeling.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/sad-eyes-cropped.jpg&usg=AFQjCNGzTu9L_WStlYOxx5kuZUVJeU-qIg
Good Luck

[Mr.T]

Anima3d, L3XICON, Que: I followed your advice, I will go for the cloak
version mixed with the tribe version (the one next to it)


I know it's just because the face is a placeholder... but I'm startling to fall in love with the featureless bald head look. :)

:evil: somehow like the Silent Hill cover? It was looking creepy I admit :smug: :haha:


;607193']ooh man, that is looking sweet. reminds me of Shadow of the Colossus. and anythind that is reminicend of grandure is sure to be a good thing :)

I didn't knew that game, I've googled it and I saw some great snapshot
of monster :!!!: (there is a giant bull looking really nice)



PS. a couple of sad looking kids that may help. http://mywebsite.register.com/db2/00...images/sad.jpg

ROFL! Looks like my sister 25years ago :haha: Thanks for the advice, I was
thinking about a medal on his neck, maybe from his parents or something to
turn it more as you said into the "missing parents" version.

[L3XICON]

but I'm startling to fall in love with the featureless bald head look. :)

I have to say, that I also think thats a cool idea. maybe not completely featureless, but something along those lines could be a great idea :D

the concepts looking very interesting Mr.T :D looking forward to seeing your sketches of the summoned beasty in more detail.

[Mr.T]

I have to say, that I also think thats a cool idea. maybe not completely featureless, but something along those lines could be a great idea :D

I'll think about it but I'm not sure, it's looking creepy I admit, but since I wanted
him to be a human and somehow a plausible cause of him going to war, I'm affraid
it goes a little bit against my backstory. (hum.. well except if they did that
to him during his training... accidents happen.. muahaha..)


the concepts looking very interesting Mr.T :D looking forward to seeing your sketches of the summoned beasty in more detail.

Well.. you don't know how much I would like to have your painting skills for this one haha :haha:

[Tank[NL]]

how about making the kid look just a bit freakish, like alma from FEAR(but less holy-crap-i-just-****-myself-scary) or a bit like those little kids from bioshock?

and yeah, i agree with the "tetsuo"-lookalike. no problem tho, he was cool.

[Steamtrooper]

Glad you liked the kids, I was shocked at some of the images I found when I googled, my adice is be very very specific when searching.

Had an idea for you but by its nature its poly heavy. In Akira the Special kids link minds to meta-concert and boost others powers, why not have your orphan the conduit of the 'orphans of war' who go unnamed? With either a disfigured face on your main boy or the blank face or even just leave it covered in cloth wraps never to be revieled ala Judge Dredd - BUT show those watery sad but implacable eyes. Maybe a montage of ghostly faces in the background or some such could get you a good low poly result. Just thought Id throw that in the pot but fully understand your direction is maybe more like a creature of the ID from 'Forbidden Planet'. Big ghostly guard dog.

[Stephan_R]

either you go freakish kid or super cute with capes and wooden sword :) both are interesting... i tend to like the cute kid with nasty beast contrast.

http://features-temp.cgsociety.org/gallerycrits/51653/51653_1170712784_large.jpg

[Mr.T]

Yes I think I will go more in the cute kind of cold looking kid with a beast
over him for protection/attack. Stephan_R I saw few months ago the
artwork you linked and I totally felt in love with this one, Daniel Lieske is truly
amazing!!

I would like my character not to be scary in the main lines (we already have
a huge army of scary dudes/beasts/monsters/etc..) I want the child to look
somehow innocent, but tough and kind of cold looking. Like it's a kid, but he
lost so much that it totally changed him. The enemy could think by this
appearance that he's weak and may pass around him, thing is.. he's not THAT
innocent. :haha:

Steamtrooper, thank you very much for your feedback I really appreciate :wave:

Somehow like Esteban:
http://www.tevader.com/anime/images/cites3.jpg
http://animeguides.free.fr/series/citesdor/citesdor.jpg
Who search for his true origins, the child of the sun.

I want someone like him, but Esteban is too joyful, so I want something in
between Akira and Esteban :haha:

[Mr.T]

hmmm.. well it's just a quicky to get an idea, I don't know why but it's like
it doesn't fit with the child :hmm: I'll do some more research, maybe just
changing the color will do the job..

http://www.mrt-prodz.com/mrt/v2/picz/lowpoly/dw3/concept-05.jpg

[Shiskebab]

That last concept looks pretty cool.

[Mr.T]

Hey thanks Shiskebab :)

I figured what bothered me about it, the position, I will make the giant not
standing but more like a gorilla (like in the previous concept) standing on his
hands and feet. It will looks more like a beast I believe, protecting the child.

[Steamtrooper]

Yup thats what it needs, couldnt pin it down but now youve pointed it out its obvious. Raised up on its haunches, almost bristling and snarling, good luck.

[Brimblashman]

I like this concept, I can see the final composition being really cool if you pull it off. big monster framing a freaky kid :)