View Full Version : Is the name of this forum confusing?
Well after moving tons of threads from this forum entitled GENERAL CG DISCUSSION to SOFTWARE HELP. I am forced to consider that the very name of this forum is confusing to many of the members here.
So do you find it confusing?
23-04-2003, 01:24 AM
It's not confusing at all.
It's laziness! The "what to post where" thread explicitly explains where topics should be posted.
If new people would just take 10 minutes to read the thread, you wouldnt have to be doing all that moving.
23-04-2003, 02:20 AM
Well I agree with Jyncus!! it is a laziness case !!
But I think they only need 10 seconds to read forum's description and understand what it is for !!
sometimes people think u r rough when u say: please do not post such a thread here!! please make a little search to get what u want ........Please .. please ... especially when somebody comes in and say Hey man I do not care ... here is the answer!!.. then u r the bad guy!!:ufo:
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Funny, less than 24 hours after I posted this poll, I've had to move 2 threads out of this forum and into Software help....
23-04-2003, 03:56 PM
hmm perhaps if you renamed and split the software help into Max help, Maya help, etc. It would be clearer. 'Software help' has a more 'I can't install max on my second partition' sort of feel.
I think that would go al long way to stearing people into the right forum
23-04-2003, 07:51 PM
Part of the reason Tom didn't go down that route was because most other 3d forums do it that way & another part was to put everyone together, regardless of software so that people don't get into the sort of "my software is better than yours" mindset. (in theory anyway.) Having it all together means that you are more likely to get a reply - imagine a section for user of a piece of software where there are only a few members that use it. If none of them know, you are still stuck, but with everyone together, (& with the help of a well chosen thread title,) other 3d'ers might be able to offer advice of some sort etc.
I think it's fine the way it is, (not that I'm saying you are wrong Incitatus,) & I think software help covers it pretty well. General cg discussion fits pretty well too although maybe it should be more specific, like "general cg discussion & help" Or "non software specific discussion & help" or "cg concepts & techniques" or something... I dunno.
23-04-2003, 08:12 PM
Yes very true. The XSI forum would become a barren waste land :)
The problem I guess is that people who haven't been into 3D very long simply don't know if their problem or question is application specific. e.g. If I had a question about layered shaders I'd be hard pressed to choose a section. I know that shading is in principal very similar in Maya and Max. But in lightwave?
23-04-2003, 08:41 PM
The last thing that should be done is the splitting up of forums into different software categories. The difference between the titles Software Help and General CG Discussion is not confusing because people don't know what Software Help is, but because the name General CG Discussion is just so general that it really does include everything. As the name says, it's for discussion on general CG topics. Another problem is that whenever people discus CG, they are providing and recieving help because people learn more about things by discussing them. So how is someone to know what goes in General and what goes in Software Help? Read the description? Well, I have read the descriptions for both forums several times, but every time I have something that I think belongs in one of them, I still have to stop and think, "Uh, which thing goes in the forum for what now?"
If I were in control, the two forums I would have made would be one for software issues such as installation, stability, and things like that which have to do with software working and being able to produce something, but not actually how the 2d/3d works look when produced. The other forum would be for CG discussion and techniques, things that have to do with how the 2d/3d works look when the software produces them. The first forum could be called Software Help - Setup, Stability, Installing Plug-Ins, etc. and the second forum could be called CG Techniques - Modeling, Shading, Lighting, Animating, etc.
Yes, those forums would likely have a less balanced usage, with many more posts going into CG Techniques than Software Help, but that would mean that people knew where they were supposed to be posting.
23-04-2003, 10:59 PM
Well of couse sometimes the thread could fit the both forums and it is not a big deal I believe!! but most of removed ones were clearly in the wrong place!! well we are looking for reduction and not perfection .... a few of confusing threads won't hurt!!
and I think making them one forum won't be good.. unless we are looking for a cocktail forum!!;)
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24-04-2003, 10:20 AM
I did not say to reduce the two forums to one.
24-04-2003, 01:48 PM
And I did not say you said that!!:) just a supposal!!
24-04-2003, 02:28 PM
I think people need to be longer in a Forum.
It needs time to find the right places.
Well, this is a very big Forum with lots of sections for all kinds of things!
Imagine you're new to a very big house, with lots of people! Maybe a childrens home.
Would you directly know, with who you can talk about your problems?
I think no!
And lots of people feel embarresed to ask, with who'm they can talk about their personal problems! Cause if they ask, everyone would know, that they have big personal problems, where they need to talk about. So they talk about them with people, who they know very well!
Well, I think it is same as in the Forums.
People post problems in the WIP section, because they know these Forums very well!
Maybe this doesn't make sense, but I had to say it:D
24-04-2003, 10:25 PM
I understand what you are saying, but I don't think slightly changing the name and description of two of the sections would have a negative effects. I think it would help make clear which sections are for what kind of questions.
25-04-2003, 07:05 AM
Well changing the name and description as you described could be better!! :) and indeed there won't be a negative effects except for some confusion for the old memebrs at first time..
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25-04-2003, 07:11 AM
By the way, I think that many of the people who would have been voting that the section names are confusing are probably lost in the Software Help section and don't know the poll exists, hehe. :p
29-04-2003, 10:48 AM
Wow...did I have some influence on the recent changes to the names/descriptions of the forums? :smug: Or do I just have a stupid look on my face? :roll:
Yes, I read all the comments here and recieved some via email and had a great discussion concerning this topic with Kuman as well.
Hopefully, the change will make a difference and I can stop spending all my available time moving posts and instead use the time to help people on these forums in a more gratifiying way.
29-04-2003, 12:43 PM
...and the crowd goes wild. :)
29-04-2003, 04:00 PM
Well done Jenn ... You have a restless soul!! and thanks to others !!
I bid you did ;)
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