The Last Fall

[Phil Craigie]

http://www.philcraigie.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/artlarge/thelastfall.jpg

Vue d'esprit, Photoshop
Here is my first post, hope you like it!
Phil

[behzad]

It is nice, it has its own style of fantasy.

[noiser]

To bad it's Vue d'esprit.

[Phil Craigie]

I dont understand that last comment, elaborate please...
Vue d'esprit is an excellent piece of software, I also use 3dsmax. To me, the package is unimportant...its the image and end result that matters!
Phil

[snowMAN]

Very nice image, Surreal, I agree Ive seen some nice work come from Vue the software is just a tool, its the artist that controls it that matters.

[noiser]

I agree, It all comes down to the artist.
But still, I don't like programs that does most of the job for you. Like terragena for example, you use a black & white image and get a landscape.

[dandavis]

I don't understand the loathing of certain software packages. Poser, Vue, Bryce are all just tools and means to the final image. I, for example, couldn't do anything nearly as nice as this with Vue, which I DO have. So, what it boils down to is how the artist weilds his tool. Negative feedback based on the software used does nothing beneficial for the artists, comments should be about the composition, color and lighting, not the tools. On that note, the composition of this is off, I personally don't think that the focus, which is the tree I assume, should be directly in the center of any well composed render, it would be best to offset the tree to the left or the right. It gives flow to the image when your eye isn't drawn immediately to the center of it. Then you can have some interesting bits that support the focus such as the dolphins off in either direction. Also, I personally think that the tree leaves are a bit to saturated with red. The horizon line needs to be lowered or raised also, It cuts the image in half, think in thirds, water, land, sky and maybe give any one of these dominance. I hope you don't find any of this offensive, you've got a great start here. Good luck! -- dano

[Mule]

As well as what dandavis has said I belive that you could work a lot on the lighting of this image. Since the sun seems to be setting I would think that there would be a lot more shadows being cast.....

[Phil Craigie]

Thanks for your comments, particularly dandavis! I agree with your comments on software- i say no more! Anyway , yeah the composition on this one is central and normally i try to create a visual path for the eye to follow. I don't know, it seemed to fall centrally so I intentionally strenghthened it, for example -by balancing the image ladder to waterfall....but i value your point. Thanks
ps...terragen Bryce , Vue and even dare I say it 3DSMAX allow you to create terrains with black/white maps( displacement). I don't see the problem!!noiser!
Phil

[dandavis]

EVERY major software package that I've used, and I've used a few, can do this with terrains, to isolate Vue because of this is absurd. Would he be so adamant about his opinion if you had used this same technique in MAX? I think not. Plug-ins are our friend. To labor for 8 hours trying to make a terrain as good as what you could do in 8 minutes with the plug is ridiculous. Last I heard, this website was called 3dTOTAL (with the emphasis on TOTAL)

[fabrizzzio]

nice image!
I like the whole hue u gave it to the picture. Fantasy!

I think you can achieve a better look in the water. Where the dolphins jumps from... scattering the water.

I like it.

[ronrn]

some good artistic points have been made but I think it has a pleasant "first impression". I like it. Does it really matter whether the carpenter used a chisel or skill saw?:)

[Phil Craigie]

Ok, thanks for all your comments, they are very much appreciated and I will certainly take on board the advice.
Thanks
Phil