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fabmedia
01-05-2003, 10:31 PM
I'm curious if anyone has a model of a G4 and or an iMac that they wish to share. All credit(s) will be given, but it has to be a decent model. I'm feeling a little intimidated right now with trying to approach this...

I would be happy to take any suggestions. I'm using Lightwave 7.5, but can read OBJ, DXF, and 3DS but not MAX files.

Arlen

Torlok2002
03-05-2003, 10:26 AM
so you can freelance out our work????

I wonder why anyone hasnt replied yet!

Zytrex
03-05-2003, 10:56 AM
What do you need it for?

fabmedia
03-05-2003, 05:34 PM
It's a pet project for the portfolio. I started to model the machine, which of course is not the easiest thing that I modelled. So I tride doing the whole handle then,realised that I should only model one corner then copy it for all eight. It seems to have worked.

On a quick side note.. what would you charge for a 10 animation. i'm a freelance designer and not sure about what to charge for this animation of a demonstration of a machine functioning. By the hour? By the second? My freelance rate is $65 per hour, but over 2 weeks that's about $5200. I think that's too much, but I don't want to sell myself short either (like I always do).

Anyway, what do you think of the model so far?

Arlen

fabmedia
07-05-2003, 02:18 AM
Okay now. After doing this over and over and over and.... well you get the picture, I still have problems with the mesh. I don't know what it is, but if I smooth the logo surface, then all goes to hell. But anyway, how does this look?

Arlen

Torlok2002
07-05-2003, 07:08 AM
I dont think i understand. You want to use one of our models as a piece in your portfolio???

Am i the only one who thinks this is wrong.

PS: i assumed he was going to freelance out the work because i saw another thread posted close to this one that asked about prices for charging for an animation.

Dark Bob
07-05-2003, 07:49 AM
I agree with Torlok here. You want someone to model something for your portfolio? Then what are you going to do when this happens.

interviewer "So tell me about this g4 model, how long did it take to make?"

you "Oh it was great I went onto a web site and asked someone for it and they gave it to me!"

interviewer "So you didn't make it yourself?"

you "nope"

interviewer "We will be in touch."

Because lets face it, if its in your portfolio and you didn't make it your setting yourself up for a nice fall.

fabmedia
07-05-2003, 04:15 PM
No I don't want to use as a dedicated portfolio piece. It was to be used as a pet project for recreating my office. I've not really attempted to do this as of yet and found that it would be a great challenge. Besides, it's NOT for the animation that I had requested some information about. That is a totally different issue. I'm not here to cause any problems for anyone but was looking for some direction and IF someone felt that it was okay, then fine I would have used thier model. I guess then, it's fortunate for you guys that no one had a model of a G4, so I started to model it myself. Reluctantly I might add but glad i did.

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interviewer "So tell me about this g4 model, how long did it take to make?"

you "Oh it was great I went onto a web site and asked someone for it and they gave it to me!"

interviewer "So you didn't make it yourself?"

you "nope"

interviewer "We will be in touch."
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I really do think your taking this completely out of context. I do however, being a graphic designer and artist, have a considerable respect for the laws of not only my country but that of others and theft is theft unless you have permission to do so whether there is monetary transaction or not. And either way, you need to have a signed release for any works created by another individual that states that you are allowed to use such art for any sort of project. An agreement of terms has to be made, and credit has to be given at any circumstance. I know what my rights are, and more importantly the rights of other artists. I NEVER for all the years that I've been in business have ever taken any kind of risk that would jeopardize my credibility with people who do work for me or work that I do for anyone else.

Now that being said I'm sorry if my request had resulted in your being upset, and yes maybe I shouldn't have made such a request. I can definitely have seen the confusion and yes I should have kept it as a seperate post. Yes I probably just have done away with asking at all. Unfortunately (or fortunately) I didn't.

As for the rest of the comment, there are a lot of commercial applications of people using premade items to implement in thier own works. For example, architectual renderings. Now I'll leave it in your court as to whether you would model a new peice of furnature, or kitchen sink, or tire, or chair, or ????? everytime you have a new project. Regardless, whether you find the mesh, or whether you bought it. In all honesty, if you are in business and you are doing a commercial project, you will look at all legal options to reduce your costs and time. This project is a personal pet project with everything in the scene being created is done so by me, 110%. So there is no need to worry now about who's model is who's and where it came from.

I'm not angry or upset, and I can understand your side of the post because I've been there. I've been ripped off and someone had made a huge profit because of it and I took them to court. I also have seen other people request models for viewing or to use, and thought it was appropriate to ask for a simple request. I understand now not to do such a thing.

My humble appologies to those that I had upset and I will not make the error again.

I believe that this post is finished.

Regards,
Arlen

Dark Bob
07-05-2003, 07:18 PM
Originally posted by fabmedia
It's a pet project for the portfolio.

This is what threw me off, I see where your coming from, and I apologise if I was some what of a jack ass.

fabmedia
07-05-2003, 08:08 PM
We all make mistakes. Mine was not only merging two different posts together (silly me) but also not making myself clear enough.

I will do better next time. I appologize if it seemed like a rant, but do believe me when I say that i back any and all artist's rights to works that they create.

have a good one.
Arlen

Torlok2002
10-05-2003, 05:23 AM
This seems much better. Thank you for the clarification. I hav just seen a lot of 3D posers *ahem **cough***gamers***. Who are used to d/l everything and maybe tweaking themselves a little and them claiming as thier creation. They want an end result but with no (or little) work involved.


Sorry if there was any hostility but i may have jumped to a conclusion.

Well, anyways, welcome to the forums. Hope you have a success modelling the MAC although i have no clue why anyone would use one!

*gamers do not be affended byt his post, as i am also a gamer.*

fabmedia
10-05-2003, 06:16 AM
Well hey lets see what you think of this... it was stressful, but worth it...

Arlen