AVATAR – 3d – IdanI – Goddess Saphira [Archive]

-IdanI-

13-12-2008, 01:40 AM

Hi everyone, I'll really enjoy this one I had an idea of making a mystifying female avatar like model for a while now and well this should be the perfect time and I am feeling pretty motivated. My main story that will be portrayed through my final image is as follows:

"The world as we know it has now perished, plunged into chaos. The union has crashed and world peace is no more, seeing how the situation developed and is getting worse The Gods have decided to use their abilities to create a being capable of retrieving peace, a descendant, The AVATAR! Combining their power the gods have created a rather beautiful being, a female like none have ever seen before, holding the power to either destroy or revive the world."

So the final image should pretty much show her, the AVATAR, descending upon the world. Her name will be Sapphire so I want to keep that natural mid Sapphire tones of skin. For now as far as color goes I think I will use a little skin color variation of violate and nice greenish grey eyes with a possible blue or white hair.

Software's used:
3ds Max
Photoshop
Zbrush
Brazil
Bodypaint

Good Luck everyone:dance::dance::dance:

LATEST IMAGE!!!

-IdanI-

13-12-2008, 09:33 PM

Alright everyone, I have devoted today for reference and image search and am currently working on a concept. Regarding the Sapphire AVATAR model I decided to base it off a real life supermodel, Klara Makedova. Concept will come tomorrow.

cheers,
Idan

-IdanI-

16-12-2008, 04:17 AM

Hi everyone, I finally got to finishing the concept for the character. the pose as well as some of the features were heavily inspired by some of the artwork made by the amazing artist Bente Schlick. The final image will be: Sapphire the avatar sitting somewhere in her own dimension in isolation from the rest of te world looking at a bowl filled with holly water that enables her to see the situation the world is facing with, getting ready to descend upon them. Hope you like the main idea/story..........next up is the modeling fase.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll312/Idan_08/AVATAR/concept-1.jpg

FireSunFox

17-12-2008, 12:34 AM

Like the idea of the mask, would be cool to see some kind of image of the world below in the smoke, maybe? Good luck!^^

-IdanI-

17-12-2008, 01:40 AM

hey man thanks on the feedback, certainly, I will change the view a little so the audience will be able to see the world below with a nice water ripple effect in the vase and a light transparent smoke. thanks again.

cheers,
Idan

-IdanI-

25-12-2008, 03:19 AM

hey guys, its been a while since i posted anything. Well, I started on the model and since its the Holiday season I should have more time to work on the model. I shall post my progress later on tonight, nothing big just the eyes and the whole eyebridge area. I will spend a lot of time on the face, tweaking and so on since I want to achieve a realistic expression of sadness. I am also currently reworking the concept and pose, I will be removing her mask since her face would be the main focus of the whole image. the pose will mainly be Goddess Sapphire ascending onto the earth from the sky. hope you like the new idea and stay tuned for new updates along with a new concept.

-IdanI-

26-12-2008, 10:45 PM

here it is, the forms are still very rough in some places but it will all be tweaked once im done with the head, I am currently texturing the eyes and building up a shader for them so I will post an update later on with the eyes in place.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll312/Idan_08/AVATAR/Sapphire_001.jpg

FireSunFox

27-12-2008, 01:01 AM

Looking good, wish I know how to do any 3d work as good as that, good luck.
Can't wait to see more!!^^

washka

28-12-2008, 01:54 PM

I know how :), but maybe not as good.
I think it's the first 3D post of the contest with a W.I.P. 3D render, congratulation.
I also liked the idea of the mask, and you know, those are not always on the face...

Can't wait for the rest too.

revanto

29-12-2008, 08:48 AM

Can I give you an honest to goodness tip? Don't spend too much time nitpicking about details at the beginning of your modelling. Just try to get a complete mesh made up first then you can make changes to the mesh later. Only take care of the small details near the end of the modelling process otherwise you'll end up wasting too much time. If you have Zbrush or mudbox then create a rough body shape and then retopologise to get your proper mesh.

Trust me. If you spend too much time trying to everything perfect just as you are modelling your character, the process will become frustrating.

Hope this is helpful.

Cheers,
Revanto :p

-IdanI-

31-12-2008, 03:35 AM

Hey guys, thanks a lot for all the comments and suggestions, I will definatley take them into account. I finished off the face and skull features, here is a simple 3 point light rig and one brazil light, I also finished making the textures for the eyes, and used a brazil adv. shader for them (though I'm not too happy with the Iris colors, I want to go for a more smoky desaturated green color, rather than a dark colorized one). anyhow now onto the the hardest part of the head.............the EARS. I will also post some wire shots later on.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll312/Idan_08/AVATAR/Sapphire_002.jpg

-IdanI-

05-01-2009, 10:45 PM

Hi everyone, new updates! tell me what you think any crits will be greatly appreciated. Next will be blocking out the form of the hair using some planes, I will later on use Hairfx for the actual hair. stay tuned! :smug:

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll312/Idan_08/AVATAR/Sapphire_003.jpg

-IdanI-

09-01-2009, 02:09 AM

Hey guys, after looking over the face again i found out that the lips were just horrible and some of the features were too bold so i tweaked it a little, mainly in zbrush. here is a small image were you can briefly see some of the improvement. Though my main focus on this was for a hair paintover. I tend to take a snapshot of my model and than overlay it with the actual thing and just paint out the mistakes and refine them later on. As for the hair it was heavily inspired by the works of mythics and the darkelf. I'm thinking of putting a crown with jewels on her forehead.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll312/Idan_08/AVATAR/Sapphire_Hair_paintover.jpg

washka

10-01-2009, 12:45 PM

+1 for better lips
You need to test the crown, under the hairs or above, it won't be the same.
The hairs always mess with crowns :) but it's funny, and there are plenty of different crown style.
I'm really interested about the jewels, my last try in 3dsmax to make realistic jewels was a failure.

Maybe a saphire?

-IdanI-

12-01-2009, 01:29 AM

thanks for the feedback and kind words man. wonderfull work your entry as well and I hope you get back to it ASAP. working on the hair blockout and some of the jewels that would show on the head. stay tuned

-IdanI-

14-01-2009, 08:14 PM

alright after carefull considiration I decided the hair just doesnt fit the face very well and really makes it look really big, so i made another quick sketch...........I'm rather happy with this one and I will most likely be it. if you have any suggestions please do not hesitate to comment.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll312/Idan_08/AVATAR/Sapphire_Hair_paintover_01.jpg

-IdanI-

16-01-2009, 01:23 PM

moving on to the body.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll312/Idan_08/AVATAR/Sapphire_004.jpg

zanman

17-01-2009, 12:02 AM

Nice modeling. I can see this is going to be a really strong piece.

<A HREF="http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?t=64295/">AVATAR – 3d – zanman – "Defend"</A>

-IdanI-

17-01-2009, 12:16 AM

hey man thanks a lot for the kind words, but the same exact thing could be said towards your entry, Huge potential.

AndrewQ

17-01-2009, 02:07 AM

Her face is beautiful! Here's hoping the rest follows suite!

-IdanI-

17-01-2009, 01:52 PM

thank man. I'm finishing up th rib cage area and then I will finish up the upper back and breasts. updates tonight. ;P

-IdanI-

23-01-2009, 10:01 PM

Hey everyone, not much of a productive week, i was swampt with school work and such so here is what i have so far. WARNING NUDITY!

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll312/Idan_08/AVATAR/Sapphire_006.jpg

-IdanI-

01-02-2009, 07:12 PM

Hey, I had a few problems with max crushing frequently so progress was hard to accomplish, so after reinstalling max 9 i resumed the modelling and finished the stomach area. i think I will work on her top for now aswell as the neck piece of cloth. Update!

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll312/Idan_08/AVATAR/Sapphire_007.jpg

washka

01-02-2009, 09:03 PM

Sometimes 3dsmax is a real pa** in the a*s, I've had codecs problems recently with the 2009 design version, can't make previews on quicktime .mov for my animation.

Your model start to emerge, I'm sure she'll be a beauty.
I know why you're doing the clothes now, it's because you want to hide her breast's Huge potential. :o

:D Got you. :D

You're pretty good in anatomy, nice work so far.

FireSunFox

02-02-2009, 01:00 AM

Looking real good, the more I see of your work the better it seem's to be getting, can't wait to see the clothes on her, now that will so define the whole feel for the final image. Good luck^^

POSEIdOON

02-02-2009, 11:08 PM

I made something in 3d but, nothing that great!

You do control your art :)

I am really curious about the textures you're going to use in the clothes.
good work.

-IdanI-

02-02-2009, 11:47 PM

thanks a lot for all the kind comments guys and the support. for the top im thinking of a really thin armour like piece with some cool mystic design. for the lower torso, panties an transparent loin cloth wraped around similar to the one in the WOW universe they have on the blood elfs. Stay tuned for more progress on the legs and cloths.

-IdanI-

03-02-2009, 12:42 AM

Edwinex please delete your post this is my own personal thread for my own progress dont spam it with your work you could create your own thread to do so.

Freespace-3DT

03-02-2009, 12:43 AM

Threat's over, peace restored. :)

Keep up the good work, IdanI!

-IdanI-

03-02-2009, 12:44 AM

thanks for the Help Freespace and for the kind words. :wave:

Idan

-IdanI-

04-02-2009, 03:27 AM

Update time, its small but I'm getting there it also shows the wires and such so you could see how I constructed the mesh poly by poly, as well as the anatomy and edge flow. The topology is basically made up of a huge anatomical reference folder I have, filled with moscular forms and edge loops images i gathered over the past year. suggestions are more than welcomed as all ways. :dance:

1st post updated with the latest image!!!

-IdanI-

05-02-2009, 11:04 PM

I finished the legs and will move on making the arms. as for the feet and hands theses will be modeled afterwords using cylinders for the finger/toes and boxes for the base of the hand/leg updates coming soon as well as a paintover with the cloth design stay tuned

mr_carl

05-02-2009, 11:46 PM

Excellent modelling, I will be looking foreword to see how you do the fingers.
Personally I hate modelling humans, it´s so hard to make them look good but you have done a sweet job.

-IdanI-

06-02-2009, 02:58 AM

thanks man, at the end of this challenge regardless of win or loose I'm going to make a detailed making-of article about the final image and I will be sure to mention my approach to modelling the fingers and such.

mr_carl

07-02-2009, 02:58 PM

Sound great, now we want to see an update please ;P

decosouza

07-02-2009, 11:59 PM

Very nice start mate! I loved her pose. Good luck in the conetst!

-IdanI-

08-02-2009, 07:23 PM

hey everyone, thanks for all the encouragements I'm currently working on the paintover and a lot of photoshop re-touches I should be done by tonight so stay tuned for more updates. :haha:

-IdanI-

09-02-2009, 03:46 AM

Alright here is the update, its still very wippy and I'm still considering the clothing and color variations. this is my Warrior style I am now working on the goddess Variation of clothing. Also I'm not a very good concept artist so this was kind of where 6 hours of work got me.:grr:

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll312/Idan_08/AVATAR/Paintover_Concept.jpg

-IdanI-

09-02-2009, 05:26 PM

for the Godess version which I will probably go with, I'm thinking of more white/pink color scheme and very light gracefull clothing. Its kind of like choosing a class where you have the warrior witch and then the gracefully and pure goddess who has very strong magical abilities. so for now since time is runing I will start modeling the cloth compramising between both classes while still working on one final concept since I model faster than I concept and paint. So next I will finish up the clothing/unwraping/texturing and rigging all in about a month. would love to hear some suggestions on what you do like about the paintover and what you dont like about it. Stay Tuned!
:dance:

Jibberwocky

09-02-2009, 09:30 PM

As far as dislikes, I wouldn't go with that thong thing she's got at the moment. With such sparse clothing down there it makes the rest look top heavy. I know you said you were changing the clothes, but just saying. And the veins are too sharp, as well. Unless that's intentional.. If it is, it might be cool to accentuate them further by making them glow or something. Like there's raw power coursing through her. Also, it's probably just a matter of taste, but her hips look unnaturally hollow. Anyway, don't mind me. Your work is awesome, however you decide to continue.

-IdanI-

09-02-2009, 09:37 PM

thank you man, regarding the thong there will be a semi-transparent skirt/dress thing over it so it wont be competley shown.......I was just too lazy to paint it but i definatley know what you meant by it and I will make it more balanced I'm working on the goddess concept now which I think you will all like. :halo:

cheers,
Idan

washka

09-02-2009, 10:18 PM

-IdanI-

09-02-2009, 10:27 PM

I agree with Jibberwocky about the dress balance, and using semi-transparent skirt/dress seems a good way to restore it, but you can also put off some upper clothes, that's another way. :D
Largest shoulders than hip fit for a warrior style, but maybe for the goddess you could make larger hip and narrow shoulders, it will look like more feminine.
I like the chest dress style for the warrior but i wouldn't threat it like a piece of clothe but more like a plate with different pieces. It's just a concept comment, warriors usually like armors, but that's usually, sometimes usually is boring.

About the wip: you're really fast for 3D work, and really good result, amazing work.

I like the way you think lol. :D
hey man thanks a lot especially coming from such an amazing concept artist as yourself, concerning the shoulders I really just followed my reference of the model Klara Madekova it just looks weird when in t-pose but once I put into a pose i think it will settle down nicley if not than i'll just tweak it.

FireSunFox

09-02-2009, 11:52 PM

Great to see you so far along, I would agree with everyone that has posted so far the shoulders are too big, I thank a mix of flowing dress and upper body armor in light/white tones would work, kind of a warrior goddess.?^^

cobaltblue

10-02-2009, 08:45 AM

I'll be watchin this thread. goodluck!

-IdanI-

11-02-2009, 01:46 AM

thank you everyone, for the suggestions and support. I hope not to dissapoint currently working on the 3d mesh for the clothing....updates soon. ;P

ez5k

11-02-2009, 10:44 AM

Her face pretty, really like photomodel )
Waiting for clothing.
...I think veins on legs too strong and may be need it to relax.

-IdanI-

11-02-2009, 06:09 PM

Thanks I will look into it, and post an update later on tonight.

mr_carl

11-02-2009, 06:20 PM

looking really great, the vains maby are a bit to strong but it really depends what you are going fore, if you want here to be evil you should maby exaggerate them even more.
Waiting to see some more cloths, really looking foreword fore that.

-IdanI-

16-02-2009, 05:48 PM

Its been a while so here is an update the flower was by far one of the hardest thing I had to model on this project took me 2 days about 3 hours each day. its made up of three different peddles all layered on top of each other in different order and sizes, more close ups coming later on. hope you like it. I am working my way up so next is the thong. stay tuned ;P.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll312/Idan_08/AVATAR/Saphira_001.jpg

-IdanI-

17-02-2009, 02:19 AM

More.......:roll:

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll312/Idan_08/AVATAR/Saphira_002.jpg

miycko

17-02-2009, 06:23 AM

Interesting. Hope to see more soon.

mr_carl

17-02-2009, 08:28 AM

the flower looks really sweet, cant wait to see it textured.

-IdanI-

17-02-2009, 07:52 PM

thank you I should be done with the whole modelling stage tomorrow than off to unwrapping, zbrush tweaks and folds and texturing time is running out. concerning the flower and the other jewlery strips they are all going to be with a nice shiny reflective gold material, the only parts that are actually going to be textured is the body and fabric. updates soon! ;P

-IdanI-

20-02-2009, 03:08 AM

Hi, well..............things are moving along, but slowly I caught a cold and so i havent gotten much time to spend on the character although the base modeling for the cloth is done. the transparent scarf and robe (around the hips) will be added and sculpted once the model is rigged and posed. I am stil tweaking a few things so please bear with me, a HUGE update coming tomorrow. :halo:

Mr.fE

21-02-2009, 03:40 PM

I do am waiting for the update!

Cold is in NY as in Italy as well so I know how you feel! Keep going!

AVATAR (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?t=64917)

-IdanI-

27-02-2009, 12:04 AM

thank you for the support, though I doubt I will finish I will try my best to make it on time, if not it will just end up being a portfolio piece. Anyhow I'm working as quickly as possible on getting the cloth and design to flow correctly nicley while still fighting against my cold. In addition, I would like to thank everyone who ever supported me and I hope not to dissapoint. I will try to update ASAP. :xx:

Jibberwocky

27-02-2009, 12:13 AM

Hope you get it done in time, man. Good luck!

FireSunFox

27-02-2009, 12:44 AM

Hang in there, and good luck!!!

mr_carl

27-02-2009, 07:25 AM

Hang in there, it´s a really good peace and hope you get well soon.

-IdanI-

09-03-2009, 08:26 PM

Well I didnt finish :wall: but from the beginning I wanted this to be a very realistic cg female which is why I took my time with every piece. Anyway as soon as the dominance war is over I will continue this over at WIP section. I love personal projects.................NO deadlines. lol.

good luck everyone and see you next time.
:dance::dance::dance:
Idan

mr_carl

09-03-2009, 09:24 PM

To bad you did´t make it, it would have been a great image.
looking foreword to see it continue in wip section and good luck in Dominace war.

-IdanI-

09-03-2009, 10:27 PM

thanks man...........but looking on the bright side of things, now it will hopefully be an even better piece since I will have more time to work on it, with my own pace.

washka

10-03-2009, 02:32 PM

That's the good side: now you can take aall your time.
This competition helped you to start the big project, so it's a good thing. And I'm sure that in the future there will be others 3D competitions with god and godess where maybe you could post your final work.
I'll continue to watch your advancement after your dominance war project.