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anima3d
15-03-2009, 06:46 PM
Dominance War VI - anima3d

:evil: lets dominate the waaaAAAGGGH !!! :evil:

Name: Sardanapalus
Race: Demon
Class: Demon Lord / Fire

I ll try to keep the 1st post updated all the time during the war with concept - modeling - textures etc.. and hope to make it this year :smug:


Current Concept

http://img.webme.com/pic/j/jonkon/demon-lord-concept-6.jpg

short story

http://img.webme.com/pic/j/jonkon/comic_1.jpg
http://img.webme.com/pic/j/jonkon/comic_2.jpg

Modeling Progress

http://img.webme.com/pic/j/jonkon/modeling_new1.jpg
http://img.webme.com/pic/j/jonkon/modeling_new2.jpg
http://img.webme.com/pic/j/jonkon/wire_new.jpg

dhin
15-03-2009, 06:52 PM
I'm seeing a whole Spawn theme with this one... ;)

anima3d
15-03-2009, 07:03 PM
yeah its kinda inspired from spawn's demons as i love em :)

1st ideas moved here

anima3d
15-03-2009, 09:50 PM
well i think some wings should be fine ,, or is to much ?

M_Cederstrom
15-03-2009, 09:57 PM
i would say leave off the wing but make his upper body and little more sturdy or stout. :D

anima3d
16-03-2009, 12:22 AM
fixed a bit the body and testing some colors.
still dont like the head.. maybe i have to replace the horns with something else..

ideas are more than welcome, so feel free :)

Beindulin
16-03-2009, 12:19 PM
why don't you try either more curly horns or the long ones that sprout more from the center of the head rather then the side.

I agree with M_Cederstrom about the wings and upper body.

anima3d
16-03-2009, 02:16 PM
fixed a bit the horns .. i like em more like this now :)
Working on the gun atm. The idea was a undead minion launcher :smug:
hope you like it.

Warlock 279
16-03-2009, 06:37 PM
...an undead minion cannon huh? Sounds good!

anima3d
16-03-2009, 08:23 PM
thanx warlock

still trying to find a place to add the logo .. hmm

anima3d
17-03-2009, 09:53 PM
made a short story about how the gun works & how the fire damage comes :lame:

SR_6274
17-03-2009, 09:55 PM
Haha, that's great.

Perversonality
17-03-2009, 09:57 PM
Insanity! I like it ;)

Maybe just chuck the logo on the forehead of the skeleton that's in the weapon?

anima3d
17-03-2009, 10:03 PM
thanx guys


Maybe just chuck the logo on the forehead of the skeleton that's in the weapon?

yeah good idea ;)

iamnick
17-03-2009, 11:12 PM
Haha, great comic. Loving the idea of a minion launcher too!

L3XICON
17-03-2009, 11:13 PM
rofl, thats gotta be the whackiest thing in the competition so far :D great to see some humour injected into these proceedings :D great job!

anima3d
18-03-2009, 10:29 AM
thanks L3X

Time to start modeling n' maybe find some more details on my way.
I always find changes during the modeling n' specially when sculpting. But the basic concept i will keep it as it is :)

TekNeek
18-03-2009, 12:00 PM
this is probably the most awesome concept ever!

anima3d
18-03-2009, 04:53 PM
just a quick shot :) working on the low poly atm

anima3d
19-03-2009, 12:19 AM
Moderator needed to add characters name on the tread :roll:

anima3d
19-03-2009, 02:39 PM
a small update. Still have a lot work to do on low poly before sculpt it.
+ i have to delete symmetry n' fix the gun, horns, tail etc... ;)

http://img.webme.com/pic/j/jonkon/modeling_2.jpg

Jensen
19-03-2009, 03:50 PM
Wow that comic was awesome! I love the concept. Keep it up :)

anima3d
19-03-2009, 06:29 PM
ty Jensen

Heres another shot. Im at 2k polys atm still have some to spend and i think something missing ,, wings maybe :lame:

http://img.webme.com/pic/j/jonkon/modeling_3.jpg

anima3d
20-03-2009, 12:58 AM
time for some sleep :P

http://img.webme.com/pic/j/jonkon/modeling_4.jpg

http://img.webme.com/pic/j/jonkon/wire.jpg

BiG ToE-3DT
20-03-2009, 01:06 AM
setup your sats so you can see how many tris you got going.

anima3d
20-03-2009, 01:08 AM
i like maths :P triangles = polys x2 lol

anima3d
20-03-2009, 01:18 AM
fixed

anima3d
20-03-2009, 02:08 PM
heres another attempt for the head with some extra horns.

http://img.webme.com/pic/j/jonkon/wire_3.jpg
http://img.webme.com/pic/j/jonkon/wire_2.jpg

anima3d
20-03-2009, 02:29 PM
since i almost finished the low poly basic mesh and i have about 5k tris more to spend i'm start thinking for some new solutions. Looks like the the concept was poor for 10 k triangles :hmm:

so.. heres some new ideas that may help the situation.

a) long bone spikes onto hes head that looks like fire
b) an extra more powerful arm, maybe a weapon.

Suggestions more than welcome so please .. feel free :)

http://img.webme.com/pic/j/jonkon/idea.jpg

JuST
20-03-2009, 04:43 PM
This looks like an awesome idea to me.
But I cannot really imagine your demon to have that extra arm... I don't know why exactly. Perhaps because it isn't symmetrical that way?
But perhaps that would be an extra point? I don't know.

anima3d
20-03-2009, 05:24 PM
working on those hairs atm and i think it looks good :)
remind me a bit predators hair mixed with bob marleys rasta lol

i think fire rasta should be fine xD
http://img.webme.com/pic/j/jonkon/wire_4.jpg

Freekybevis
20-03-2009, 05:26 PM
great progress so far anima. looking sweet.
could u not have lost the bones in the wings and gotten away with just a normal map ? and focused those poly's in the face rather ?

anima3d
20-03-2009, 05:34 PM
thanx for the comments guys.

Hmm good idea Freekybevis. But i dont have problem with polys atm. If i found any on my way yeah i think about it. The face need some more work indeed ;)

anima3d
20-03-2009, 07:50 PM
small update. :D

http://img.webme.com/pic/j/jonkon/render11.jpg
http://img.webme.com/pic/j/jonkon/wire_5.jpg

anima3d
21-03-2009, 12:13 PM
well .. replaced the upper body and arms with a better one.
Working on the lower area atm and have to correct the balance between body and legs also. btw still have about 2k tris to spend and thats good :)

chris_solo
21-03-2009, 12:41 PM
it going well here!

anima3d
21-03-2009, 05:24 PM
thanx chris :)

Heres another shot attached all parts to new chest and fixed the geometry on legs so i can soon jump to zbrush. The rest 1k tris that left thinking to fix the face and the gun.

http://img.webme.com/pic/j/jonkon/modeling_new1.jpg
http://img.webme.com/pic/j/jonkon/wire_new.jpg

DJdude
22-03-2009, 01:50 AM
Man I'm loving this. Very original.

Joseph Pomeisl
22-03-2009, 01:59 AM
There's alot of optimizing that could be done on the body. If you're planning on retopologizing after zbrush it doesn't matter I guess; if not then definately spend the time cleaning it up. If it doesn't affect the silhoutte then it doesn't need to be there.

spartan118
24-03-2009, 09:44 AM
I agree with joseph, if you do some serious retouching this will come out really great, awsome job otherwise.

Warlock 279
24-03-2009, 07:14 PM
Yep, jumping on their train here, you could certainly clean some of that up, and a few more loops in his demon minion cannon would go a long towards smoothing that out.

Otherwise, looking pretty cool. I think it might not be a bad idea to beef the tail up a bit, right now its about the same thickness as all the things coming out of his head, and kinda gets lost in them, whereas if it were a little thicker, it'd be easier to distinguish as a different element.

anima3d
25-03-2009, 02:56 PM
thanx for all C&C here people :)

Ofc there would be some geometry changes on the way, just had this geometry to support the sculpted model. After that i will clean a bit whatever it looks useless on him specially on legs and maybe on body also. The gun must be done from the beginning tbh but 1st i have to see how much tris left for that and maybe some armor parts that im thinking to add ;)