Elven prince (and some mild nudity)

[Avatar-3DT]

A pencil drawing of an elf. Lots of details.

[evil_radish]

yees, kewl indeed!

lots of detail, i like it, post more!

only crit i have is that he seems perhaps a bit broad shouldered for an elf, but hey the elves in JRR Tolkiens series where probebly shaped more like this in their "youth" before they left, ugh, taht island, cant remember what is called :roll: :p

[Dan-3DT]

Nice work. Great drawing skills and nice shading...my only crit is next time try to define a light source when shading and cast some deeper more dramatic shadows...i think it would compliment your drawings well and bring them to a new level. Can we see more of your work?

[Goj]

I looks great. To me something looks a little wierd with the arm, not sure what it is. I think that the chest is a little wider then it is supposed to be anatomicly-wise. Great attention to detail. only if I could draw like that.

Sorry about my other post, i was just kidding, maybe I should have added a smile.

[Avatar-3DT]

" And the earth shook and trembled and I felt to my knees. Then I saw Him... He rised from within, crying with a thousand voices, brandishing a huge, steel falkion, a mesenger from Hell sent to claim my soul"...

[rage]

holy **** man!
awesome!!!

[Avatar-3DT]

"Helend never saw the little thing moving on her side, there was no sound, neather the grass swayed... The small spear found way to stab her in the armpit, right where the silver, mithril plate finished it's protection.
Gasping for a last breath of air, before everything go dark, the fair lady of Galandroth saw the imp running away".

[Avatar-3DT]

"The creature stormed like a wild bull through Minora's guards. Blood arched in the air, guts poored on the street... Not even one of the soldiers had time to scream.
The strange looking beast stoped in the middle of the alley, breathing hard, searching for a new victime. The small eyes stoped upon Minora and something like a cruel smile rose the huge fangs that grew along it's face..."


Goruku race does not exist. It's a creature of my own from the time when I was dongeon master and I needed a mindless powerfull nonplayer character to act as a "powerfull enemy" for one of my players.

[Avatar-3DT]

"With half closed eyes, Falindar was watching the enemy get closer. At first, only the big, yellow eyes of the minion were the only thing he could saw but soon the moonlight came to descent upon the greysh skin of a goblin. He stood still, breathing slowly as if he was asleep, then, when the creature was close enough, with a single blow, beheaded her and ceased the body before it could touch the ground. The head rolled at his feet and the glow from it's eyes slowly faded away..."

[Avatar-3DT]

"It had snowed for the past three days and the winds were swirling like crazy the white, cold cloud pouder but it was a havenly weather for the furred alaghi in their company. He was always cheerful and every night he visited their wounded comander for a little cheet-chat and a game of chess..."

[Knut]

God damned man!
Inspiring!

Keep it up:cool:

[Avatar-3DT]

"Falmir Ironbeard smiled and rose his axe.
-You'll never know my dwarven name, demon, he said. It is hidden well, back home, deep beneath the great rocks of mount Kalandar. But don't worry, my axe has a name of it's own and I shall carve it in your flesh soon enough!"

[Avatar-3DT]

"The huge creature proudly rose it's head and a harsh yell found it's way out of the foamy mouth, a cry of victory of some sort, brought from the strange lands it camed from".

[ido]

Amazing.. I love it all. Would love to see more of your work:)

[shift]

You're an incredible artist. Fantastic work.

And those short background stories add a lot.

[Avatar-3DT]

Thank U "shift", I'm glad you like it. The short story's, well, that's my second hobby. Writting I mean. I did some comix for a while and there were no scrips so I had to make my own. They turned pretty good so I exercised.

[rage]

my man, u are great!
aweosme detailing and the mini-stories are just awesome, keep em comming!

hope that our little gig goes on smoothly!!

chher bud!

[Avatar-3DT]

"The calm, murky water rippled but only for a moment. Curios, the soldier draw near. He stoped, the water seemed pretty deep... "Maybe was just a fish", he thought. Hissing like an enraged rattlesnake, the spear shoot through the water piercing his throat. The lizardman caught him and, before someone notice, vanished between the mists".

[Avatar-3DT]

This is a more artistic draw of mine. No story, just simbols. Look for them if you like.

[Avatar-3DT]

"They stood - a long, dirty, raggedy row of men - to get paid for their blood. The count had no good feelings towards this unorganized and foul gathering, but their were cannon flesh to spend on the battle field. They had no loyalty and no honor...
So they stood - a long, dirty, raggedy row of men - to get paid for their blood".



Just a watercolor painting.

[Avatar-3DT]

"The soldier shrieked and curled on the floor.
-Tell me about your commander! asked the orc shaman.
-No, you wont get nothing from me! yelled Hans.
-Ooh, is that so?!
Visions of his most horrid fears past before man's eyes. He felt his flesh burning, scortched in the blinding fires of Hell, he saw demons with razor sharp theet and he felt them feast on his flesh.
It was to much.
-Damn you sorcerer!I'll tell you everything, just stop!
Tears were reaping way across his cheaks.
-Maybe I'll stop, but not now, smiled the shaman. Perhaps later.
And the torture, nothing else but images and feeling born from sorcery, started again".

[rage]

as usual....awesome!

[Knut]

Where on earth do you get ideas/inspiration from? Those pictures are awesome man!

[Avatar-3DT]

I read a lot. The rest it's just my imagination. Try to see the things your way.

[Avatar-3DT]

I don't use something special. The paper is A4 (21X29.7) and the pencil it's a mechanical pencil with HB 0,5 reserve.

And Dan, have mercy man! I didn't finish any school of art, I just draw as I feel like. If you have any documentation on the subject I would be in your debt if you send me some.

[Avatar-3DT]

"Between the shadows something moved. Or maybe it was just the treachery dance of the moonlight among the trees branches. The houses, in ruin, were silent... only the wind sang through the blind holes in the walls. And the he saw the woman standing, just standing there like all around her was usual. He approached...
- Stand back mortal or suffer for your dare! camed the warning in a hissed voice".

[Avatar-3DT]

"- Kill 'im!
- No, the chief said to bring him back to the Hole!
-Me like to see death!
-Shut up and stop drooling on me!"

[ido]

wow this is just beautiful:eek: what size is the paper you draw on? do you use only pencils, what kind? how many of these do you have?
and the last qustion, are you going to model one of them in 3d? i'm sure you will be very good at it:)

[MonteCristo]

Yeah I reckon you draw some really top quality stuff, but in my opinion you could do with sorting the composition of your drawings before you draw them. It looks like you run out of space on the paper quite a lot, which is a shame. Otherwise, excellent.

[EvEr666]

wooooow!!!!

great work man...how the f*** do u do them ???

apropo...da shi mie mailu tau...ca am ceva intrebari ...ok?

[Avatar-3DT]

Thank you for your advice, Monte Cristo, I'll try to pay attention next time I draw something. All the drawing in here are done for my soul only, just to get them out of my mind.

Ido, look up, above the "Naga Queen" drawing, you have there the resources I use. About the 3d 'do... Well, I can model pretty good but I suck in texturing. I still learn to do the blasting thing. But I'll try to post a "Gollum" I've modeled some time ago. Search for it in the 3d art.

[Avatar-3DT]

"The best stood still, awaiting. There were sounds down the hallway of the cave, steps sound, something he didn't hear for hundreds of years. The small eyes looked around to all the gold and gems and beutifully crafted weapons that rested on the floor of the main room while the big eye, the deadly eye, remained fixed on the entrance..."

[Avatar-3DT]

Those are the characters I made for a game to appeare - soon I hope. There's a story coming with them but I cannot tell you what is all about. Sorry.

[Jojomondag]

omfg your my master i kneel before you ohh lord of 2d ^^ very nice beautiful and superb detailed work. And you only learnt that by yourself darn im really impressed. I dont think blizzard would hessitat giving you a 2d jobb with those drawings.

[MonteCristo]

Yeah I know what you mean, It seems when we draw for the pleasure of drawing we create our best stuff. I guess because you pour your soul into it... Something like that.

[Avatar-3DT]

You may arise, lord Jojomondag, you had satisfied my pried! (giggles)
No, really man, thanks for your acknowledgement but I don't think I deserve such a treatment.
And thank, my count for your understanding.


Here's another part of the game design characters.

[Avatar-3DT]

And the last game design.

[Avatar-3DT]

This one I dedicate to my man, "rage", may the gods bless his soul, who helped me to post my first drawing, putting a stop to the jokes about my red x'ses. Thanks "rage", my friend!

[Avatar-3DT]

An ogre, a necromancer, a paladin, a dragon and a witch... Features... Look into their eyes. Dont's mind the writtings beside the drawings, their made by hand in my native language.

[Avatar-3DT]

An ogre, a necromancer, a paladin, a dragon and a witch... Features... Look into their eyes. Dont's mind the writtings beside the drawings, their made by hand in my native language.

[Avatar-3DT]

Sorry for the duble posting, I thought the image didn't load and I was affraid not to give you another red x.
Portrats part 2... The names are identical to those in english so I don't writte them again here.

[Avatar-3DT]

" ...and she rided the great best as a child would ride a poney and all the people of her tribe were amazed for, until then, only men could tame such a strong and hard willed creature".

[Avatar-3DT]

"When the time was right they had to go, guided only by the feeling in their hearts, to search for a shell. And aldo they seemed awfully stupid and weak, the snailmen are very smart and cunning and the can fight as well as every other warrior".

[evil_radish]

damn, there is some skill in you!!

get yourself a wacom and a copy of painter, and start amazing us with some digital art, now!!:p


if not ill have to find you and make you cus, damn, you dont want that skill going to waste!!

[Avatar-3DT]

Well, a wacom table is pretty expensive in my country and, as I am a freelancer, I'm always have a money problem. But not for long I hope. Tools for my work are now ahead everything else since it seems that soon I'l get some work. Anyway, my good man "evil_radish" thank's. You were the first to visit my art, remember? If you still linger upon them it means you honor me with your kind presence. I bow before you and I thank you again.


And now, another "candy":

"The legend said it was a thing of the mountains, a creature of the caves, praying on the eyeless troglodyts from deep within the earth. Legends said that never such creature will leave the humid darkness of it's lair to pray in the world upon. Well, the legends were wrong...".

[Avatar-3DT]

"The women were hunting, they were going to war agains other tribes, they were making the laws. Aldo the giant men were stronger they were just shiphearders and farmers. So at the last summer solstice, the great queen Neveratii had issued a new law: all men born or married in the laws on Hadgarsat tribe would became slaves to their wifes and all their sons will be the slaves of their sisters".

[Avatar-3DT]

Sorry to desapoint you, this will not reveal my face. It's a symbolic selfportrait trying to show how I feel in the realm of my creations (well, I guess the nick name almost said all). But I think most of us feel the same toward the things we create.

[xeltestic]

awesome work dude

what's your main technique for shadowing? can't really make out deifined crosshatching. are ya using a smudge stick or what is your magic?

[Avatar-3DT]

I have in fact two tehniques: the main one I call it: "The pressure tehnique". It's how hard you press your pencil on the paper. Press harder for darker shadows, press less for difusse shadows. Important is to move slowly while pressing to create a black-white gradient.
The second tehnique is "The finger tehnique". Where there are spaces between my shadows I smudge with my finger until I fill those spaces with grey from the near by shadows. I use thise one pretty rarely, but is very effective. I try never to use erasers, they ruin the paper.

[xeltestic]

i see...thx for telling me.
are u using also different kind of pencils with different hardness like hb, b, 2b, 4b, ....? are ya holding your pencil down flat on the paper for the shadows?
sorry for all the questions, im still xperimenting myself.
i read in several places that when drawing with a pencil u should avoid smudging cause graphite ain't really good for that (not like charcoal e.g.), but yours seem to turn out very nice. keep it on:D

[velk]

Very nice work Avatar, some really jaw dropping stuff!

About how long does it take you to do one of your larger (i.e. full character) drawings? Keep up the good work.

[Avatar-3DT]

No, I don't use different kinds of pencils, only one mechanical pencil with HB mine, o,5 thik.
A drawing take's me about four hours.

[Avatar-3DT]

"And through the fires a hunchbecked, rocky form appeared. A roar sended shivers in all the damned awaiting for their jailer to appear...".

[rage]

Originally posted by Avatar
This one I dedicate to my man, "rage", may the gods bless his soul, who helped me to post my first drawing, putting a stop to the jokes about my red x'ses. Thanks "rage", my friend!

thanks there my man! youre welcome...

those last ones are very nice my m8
keep ´em comming!

[Avatar-3DT]

"Legend were told about the king of the snakes but it was until now, when Kira faced the dreadfull monster, right before she got turned to stone, that she believed anything".

[Avatar-3DT]

Here's one of the most difficult drawings I ever did. It took me about 12 hour of streight work to finish it.

[rage]

awesome!!!

[Avatar-3DT]

"I fear no evil, for I have above me and around me the blessed smile of God. And Evil shall stay out of my way as long as I walk the path of righteousness".

[evil_radish]

man! the patience! how the hell to you have the patience?!?

the basilisk and the one that took 12 hours is friggin impressive...

[MonteCristo]

The Sleeping Gargoyle is by far your best piece IMO. It's the one that I would have on my wall without hesitation. Great stuff. :D

[Avatar-3DT]

Thank's "rage", I'll try to amaze you again. "Evil", the patience is the key to succes. And, after all, if an Avatar has no patience, who has? All of us are immortall, why hurry?

The next drawing is a cover for a poems book I made some time ago (not long ago). It was create using a simple pen with black reserve.

[Avatar-3DT]

This is my dissapointment in human race. Take as individuals, humans are smart, creative beings; As a mass, they are just a heard of stoopid, mean creatures. And here I think I insulted the apes.

[Avatar-3DT]

This drawing was made while expecting a train, last winter.

[xeltestic]

dude u rock big time:!!!: :!!!: :!!!:

got any personal web page, we, your fans , could visit?

[Avatar-3DT]

Sorry, no web page yet. I hope there will be one soon. Until then I'll post here everything I got. Thank you for being my fan.

[Avatar-3DT]

" It stabed the dark clouds above it, pure cristal, singing with the winds, singing with the rain, every twist of the air and every drop of water awaiking a thousand harpes, reaching to the gates of heavens like a key...".

[Avatar-3DT]

"I'm an atom in a grain of sand, on a beach, on an island, in the middle of the ocean, somewhere on planet Earth, in a solar sistem, on the outer side of a galaxy, in a universe..."

Another of my rebelion agains human arogance.

[Avatar-3DT]

Did it ever happened to you?

[Avatar-3DT]

"He had a mouth, but none had heard him speak ever before and he had theet but he never eat, he had wings but never was seen flying. It's entire being was just a mask to keep within the fires of Hell that burned in his being".

[xeltestic]

wow!:D keep it rolling master!

[Avatar-3DT]

This made for my friend, "rage", who needs all our encouragements to make us proud with his "Fall of Gondolin" image. Let us hope he's still day-dreaming, working on the scene.

And people, some criticism, some remarks, something, please! I need to impruve myself!
Xeltestic, I apreciate your kindness, but I no master, but a humble "avatar" who is searching for perfections. And I guess all of us here are.

[angryjew]

ok, crits eh? i think on the picture with the naked guy falling in sand, is good but the part where he is turned around backside facing you, his leg seems a bit big at the bottom half. <edit> and on the last picture of the guy holding the sword thats dedicated to rage, his lips look weird. Seems to me that his bottom lip is big and pointing downwards and is smaller in length than the top one, which is almost flat...:)

[Avatar-3DT]

Another drawing for the notebook I used to carry around every time I left my town. Believe me, is not easy to draw something while traveling in a train :D

[Avatar-3DT]

...and another...

[Avatar-3DT]

...an another. He, he. he. Is this annoying you?

[Avatar-3DT]

The last one was a Trikreen, a D&D creature. Sorry to post the name here but I was hurried and that's how the mistakes are made.

[sarN]

annoying avatar?
i love lookin at those pics, yer artistic skeelz are unbelievable
theyre like samwise :D:D:D

[sarN]

oh, as for some drawing tips... where did you learn to draw like that? did you take classeS?
and do you plan like a skeleton structure for each guy before you draw it? i would really like to know :)

[Avatar-3DT]

No, I didn't took any classes - officialy. But I did study by myself different things, like anatomy, mythology and others, too many to speak about them here. I practice a lot and I'm blessed with great imagination.
No I don't plan a skeleton before start working, in fact I don't really plan. Maybe I start with the idea of making, let's say, a dragon. I buil around that character an entire story, asking myself why he's gotta look like that, could he really fly with those wings, how would he see, even how would think. And that's with all my characters. Sometimes I stand infront of a drawing long minutes, just "dreaming" about it. I have to make an efort to snap back to work.

[sarN]

thanks for the tips hehe, yeah... i should study anatomy and that stuff especially, since sometimes i have a cool idea, but i screw up with the shape of the thing and it looks like crap half the time
once in a while i actually get the shape right (i dont have many pencils lol) and i come out with a picture i actually like
a lot of times when im attempting to draw something in a scene i imagine a sort of movie, and i put it in a box so i can get my views right
of course, like i said, they usually look like crap, and about the only thing i can draw is a dragon lol
something realistic like a person? fogeddaboudit
maybe its cuz when i was younger i used to practice drawing creatures, especially raptors (jurassic park!) which im gonna do tomorrow in school so i can attempt to model one
i think one of the most important things like you said is practice... and ive been spending too much tiem on stupid shcool work lol
thanks again avatar :D

[Daniel]

Everytime I check this thread for new drawings I'm impressed every time man. You are by far one of the best concept artist I've seen on the web. Great stuff, post more! :D

[daagom]

These are awesome... if you do all these in your spare time... You have WAY too much free time on your hands :D

Great work.

[Avatar-3DT]

sarN , don't ever think the "crap" you did in school will never come handy, you would be dead wrong. And when you wanna do a dragon, start with what you already know (a raptor!) and build around it. Put him wings, some hornes, some spikes on his back and, voila, you have a dragon.
DanielB, thanks for your kind remarcs, you realy made me blush. I prefere to think I'm not good enough.
daagom, indeed I have some time on my hand 'cause I work home and this drawings are, most of them, what I did to earn some money. Pleasure and gain in the same time. But they are also what I did in the last year, so...It's too little.

Thank you all for visiting this posts.

[Avatar-3DT]

It's been a while... I lacked your input and that was a little dissapointing. But I come here with another of my drawing, hoping to deserve your presence again.

[ido]

awesome, all of them are awesome :). i just love your style. would love to see you do more 3d out of these concepts

[EliseuGouveia]

I like your technique and the energy you put on your artwork, it´s trully inspiring. :)

[Avatar-3DT]

Thanks ido, I'd love to model more my self. If you would see what's on my head you would run like hell. Or maybe just laugh, there are inside there some amusing stuff too :D. Did you see the name I gave to my zombies?
Eliseu, thanks for the compliments and for the links. Nice stuff there, a joy for the eyes I might say. About the energy... Sometime I get scared I will soon run out of it, but there are burst of it everytime I get amazed of something. But again, there are so little things to get amazed from those days. It looks like the humanity had runout of good ideeas and start to do the bad ones. :grr:

[Avatar-3DT]

Here's an older drawing of mine, from the time I was drawing aliens and stuff. Maybe soon in a day or to I'll come with some new stuff.

[Avatar-3DT]

...some weird snail-like creature from other planet. For coloring I use only some colored pencils.

[Avatar-3DT]

...and a Trikreen I draw to explain my D&D buddies how this creature look like.

[Avatar-3DT]

This is especialy for you Eliseu. As you are such a bright comix artis you can give me some profesional appreciation. A page from my comix "Slade". Sorry, the text is not translated.
And believe me, if I were wealthy enough I would buy all your comix. Your drawings are so clean it's a pleasure to watch them.

[Vitor]

They look great. Really nice work. Hope to see them in 3D soon... ;)

[EliseuGouveia]

Again, a great display of talent, I didn´t know you did comics too, it´s not often one comes across an artist that plays so many instruments.
Good stuff! :)

[Avatar-3DT]

Thanks Eliseu, but, after I saw your comix I wish I coul play this instrument as good as you. But I have the wisdom to know that one cannot master everything. Unless is God.
Or maybe one of his Avatar's? :D
Another pages of my comix. "Symbio" is a soldier infected by an alien parasite, seeking escape from the army that is trying to catch him.

[Avatar-3DT]

...from "Symbio" too.

[Avatar-3DT]

This one is from my album in making, "The Searcherers", a Heroic-Fantasy saga.

[Avatar-3DT]

"The Searcherers" again.

[Daniel]

that's really cool, but symbio reminds me of venom :p Great illustration live always, wish I could have that skill in 2d, but you gotta be born with it I guess :D keep posting more stuff man

[rage]

i didnt knew either that u could do comics that well my man!
youo are definately a skilled artisan my man...

cheers!

[TyKeiL]

wow, although i may lack the proper barriers between reality and fantasy i feel somehow more evil from looking at your work,

good thing there was the occasional (insert word here) piece in there, like the snail frm another world

i just dont like thinking sometimes,,

now on the other hand awsome work the creativity you display makes me feel small and at the same time motivated to keep on with my art as i may oneday be able to express myself as you do.

top stuff, excellent work, you are indeed a rare breed of human, i hope you live to have children and pass on what you have learned,

[Avatar-3DT]

rage, I'm happy you visit my post again, buddy! I've kindda miss me here for sometime:p

DanielB, you could be right. Some said its looking like Spawn. Thinking about it could be a Spawn-Venom combination. So I'll kill him an start another character. I don't want to make unoriginal characters. It's kindda hard this days to create a new superhero.

TyKeil was not my intention to make you feel evil, au contraire! But I'm happy if I can inspire you. I didn't knew what word to put between the comas so maybe you'll iluminate me somehow.
You have no reason to feel small, but to become more determinate to impruve yourself. As for me having children... I'm still very young to think me as a dead person. I love children but for now I have nothing to offer them so I guess I will stay single for a while more.
Here's a more stilized drawing that, paradoxal, liked to a lot of people.

[Gunblade87]

wow man, these drawings are just amazing..
the amount of detail on them is just scary (in a good way)
one question, how big a size of paper do you use for your drawings, A4?

thanks, and keep the drawings flowing :)
Gunblade

[Avatar-3DT]

Part of them are my inner demons, part of them are heroes like I would like to be, others are drawings made when i was bored and had nothing to do. Yes, the size of the paper is A4, but sometimes I cut from it and the size is fluctuant.

[Avatar-3DT]

Here is something for all my buddys. In fact, for all of you. Still looking like Spawn and Venom? I expect suggestions.

[Daniel]

can't see anything :(

[Avatar-3DT]

Man, don't joke like this! I'm still shocked from the red x thing from the begining of my arrival here!
Here is another drawing. This time I accentuated more the simbols that the detail.

[Gunblade87]

Originally posted by Avatar
This time I accentuated more the simbols that the detail.

wow man.. for not focusing on the details, it rules!
and if you were focusing on the details it rules! :D

thats the kind of.. double drawing, like the hand drawing the hand, right? its very nice :)

[Avatar-3DT]

This is part of a exposition I had a few weeks ago. And because you liked it I'll post more like this one. This one is called "Opinion".

[evil_radish]

looks alright, but i dig your pencil work much more

[Avatar-3DT]

Yes, you're right, but it takes much longer to draw one of those. And, to be honest, since I have posted the last of my pencil work I did just one more. Soon to be posted ofcourse.

[Avatar-3DT]

Wow, I see somebody gave me five stars! I'm indeed honored. Thank you, thank you all! I'm glad I'm so highly appreciated.

[Daniel]

well you surely deserve it :D
same here, I like his pencil work better, but the ink is cool too, I like the 2 guys on the cross

[Avatar-3DT]

Well, I'm glad. Honestly, I like my pncil work better:D. I'm drawing a dragon scene, something similar to "The Sleep of the Gargoyle" drawing. Its coming along pretty hard, here is a damn hot summer, no air conditioning, so is kindda hard to keep my hands on a paper covered in graphite while I'm leaking everywhere :grr:

[shauryashaurya]

Brilliant Avtaar.
Absolutely awsome.
abt pencil work, well I always seem to fudgeup everytime I touch colors. Thus pencil work is all I love. And I LOVE avtaars work.
Super.
:) :) :)

[Avatar-3DT]

Thanks shauryashaurya. Maybe it is arrogance for me to name myself an avatar. Hope to rise myself to the ideea. If not now, maybe in some next life, aldo I hope this is the last one. Not a chance. Anyhow, I'm glad you liked my pencil work. Visit me soon, I'll try not to desapoint you.

[xeltestic]

nice of u Avatar that u keep us updated with some new stuff every now and then.
me, im just too lazy:D

here is a damn hot summer, no air conditioning, so is kindda hard to keep my hands on a paper covered in graphite while I'm leaking everywhere

come to Finland then:D :D

[Yanik]

Man i really love your work. I was watching the whole thread with my cheekbones on the floor.

You are the best drawer i have ever seen.

[Avatar-3DT]

xeltestic, thanks for the kind invitation. But going from hot to cold it may cause me to break like glass :D
Yanik, I'm glad I could impress you. About the best drawer... well, i hope one day i will become one. ;)

Well, I may break the rules of this thread by posting this but I want to give you something for the kind remarcs. So I'll post a starting sketch of what I'm working now. Just to give you an ideea. In a day or two I'll post the finished drawing.

[sarN]

that is going to be so unbelievably cool
its not even funny
you truly do have amazing skills Avatar :D

[xeltestic]

sigh:!!!:

[Daniel]

holycrap, this may be one of your best drawings yet, the knight attacking the dragon is amazin alone, but the dragon, geez. I can only imagine what it'll look like when your done.

[Avatar-3DT]

As I promised, here is the dragon scene, freshly finished. Enjoy.

[Daniel]

:drool: :drool: :drool:

[shauryashaurya]

:lurve: :drool: :lurve: :drool: :lurve: :drool:
butiful as always
:lurve: :drool: :lurve: :drool: :lurve: :drool:

[evil_radish]

wow, insane detail!

only a few crits :P
there seems to be little "depth" and its hard to see whats in front of what, now im asuming that the drake is being fought by all three heroes? however the dwarf looks like he is about to attack the warrior with the sword.. and in my opinion the half finished one looks better, cus you can tell whats going on much easier, the dragon looks simply incredible in that one... in the finished piece all the other detail takes away from what i feel should be the main focus of the drawing...

so once again, friggin cool work by Avatar (hurry up and post more!! :P)

edit:i mean four heroes...

[EvEr666]

i agree wit u evil...there is a bit hard to see the dragon in the finished drawing...i gues that i u ,avatar, would have made the drawing with less details on the sourounding then it would have been much bether!!

[Avatar-3DT]

evil, EvEr, lol my brothers! You took a boulder off my soul! This picture was an experiment. The picture was suppose to creat sensation like confusions and moovement. It seems that you couldn't focus because al of the ditails. It's like in a real fight: too much, too fast.
Now, evil, if you look at the dwarfs feet you will see that he is climbing stairs. The knight and the dragon are on some sort of a plateau; The witch is also on a small plateau and the archer is much back (as it has to be) and he is just rising the bow. See where the tip of the arrow points? He's not ready to shoot.

My advice is to copy the drawing and to take a look at every character individualy before you try to see the entire scene.

Here is some character to cleanse your eyes after too much detail :D

[Avatar-3DT]

Well, no more posts. I missed for a while but I'm back with a new character. His name is N'Naggy and you wouldn't guess he's a intergalactic assasin, would you? He's a polymorph and a pretty mean sonofabitch. I hope to post soon his real face.

[Daniel]

awesome as usual, I really like your "taupe" dunno how to say it in english, ratlikecreature character. :D

[Avatar-3DT]

If by "taupe" you meant the color of a moleskin I guess is good. Imagine that this is not his real look. Imagine that every muscle and underskin tessue its able to move, to change place and shape. He cannot modify his bone structure or his mass but you will be amaze to see how diferent he's looking in his natural form.

[MonteCristo]

Man! these are soooo cool. How do you manage to churn them out so fast?It's very impressive. Great stuff dude.

[Avatar-3DT]

Fast?! I think I go pretty slow. A few years ago I was drawing this kind of things at least twice a day! But then back there I didn't had a computer, nor 3dmax.

[Daniel]

lol no taupe is the name of the creature in french, the little rat that buries himself in the ground, groundhog? dunno how to call it in english :o

[ido]

wow Avatar this is amazing. these two last characters are awesome:)

[rage]

as usual my bud....im stunned....keep it going!!

[Avatar-3DT]

Well, nice to bring a smile to your lips, Daniel. I know some french also but its been a while since I finished the highschool and I exercised only my english until now. If you'll use french word please specifie, "taupe" in english means exactly "moleskin like", brownish that is. :D

ido, glad to have you back "mylady" :D. Thanks for you're kind remarcs and for your visit. I'll try to rise myself to the hight of your appreciation.

rage, MY BUDDY, YOU'RE BACK!!! I'm glad you come around even it's just a visit. We miss you on the thread buddy. And I'm eager to see you're demoreel.

[rage]

patience my friend, patience....

[Avatar-3DT]

Well, I guess patience is the quality of the wise men, but are we wise men?

[sarN]

DEAR GOD AVATAR!!!!!
first off
the dragon scene is COMPLETELY FRIKIN AMAZING
second of all
the mole man and elephant assassin look so cool its unebelievable
hmm, i just wen through like this whole thread, and as i looked at everything, it seems that your work has improved a lot as you posted
im sure it will continue
completely dumbfounded,
yourworkissodamnamazing

[Avatar-3DT]

sarN, man, you have a lot of time or a very fast connection if you took time to look on the entire thread! Anyway, thank you, your action honor me. That means I made you curiouse and is what I try to achieve. I hope you didn't run into the same trouble with the dragon scene as evil_radish andEvEr666. I think I should have specified from the begining my intention. But then, where would have been the experiment?
I don't know if I've impruved, I can be really objective about this, but spending time among talented people around here does good for my soul. It makes me feel less lonlier and not so crazy. I'm glad there are places like this where the dreamers can dream without being laughed at.

[sarN]

yeah, i love how no one gets made fun of around here :D
at first on your dragon pic, i thought that there was a little too much, and certain things were hard to see
when you explained why you did that it made perfect sense lol
i totally see the confusiona nd chaos you tried to bring about
it probly woulda helped to explain though, since without explanation we all just get confused :D
cant wait to see more drawings
lol ive been drawing tonight too, i made some weird demon guy and a guy inspired from your imp lol
neither are very good but whatever lol
keep up with the awesome artwork

[Avatar-3DT]

You can be sure I'll do that buddy.

[Avatar-3DT]

I know, it's been a long time since the last post. And I broke a promise, this is not the real face of N'naggy the Assasin aldo I think you will not complain for something more pleasant. It has a story also:
Pice of the letter of sir Agrabant of Lorenslis to lady Syelin, the half elfe:
"I writte to you again, my lady of a thousand tears, for this is thy name in my crying heart. It's been a month since thy radiant face has not brought smile upon my lips. Knowing of thy pain I cannot close eyes and sleep is running away for I suffer with you. Do mourn your loss but search upon the things to come and rise upon suffering to smile into the rising sun. I beg to the gods, in my dispair, to guide my destiny and my steps closer to your abode so we can finally join..."

[sarN]

WoW
thats all there is to say lol

[TyKeiL]

looks like you stuffed the perspective on the bottom half of her face there

[Avatar-3DT]

Ok, I must confese I didn't got the "stuff perspective" thing. TyKeiL, would you be kind enough to give me a more detailed expolanation of what did you mean?

Tomorrow is N'Naggy day fellows! The ugly, mean sonoftehbitch is coming at last. Meanwhile, to keep you on the thread, a robot I've draw for a freind; keep in mind that this is a sketch for him so please, do not use it to create copys of the sketch or models. It can be use as inspiration as long as your model is over 50% your own creation. Thank you.

[RickStefani]

Awsome art. You are very good. I think what Tykeil is saying is her face is at a 3/4 view but the nose and mouth is draw just off from straight. Not the contour of the face, just the nose and mouth.

[Avatar-3DT]

In that case he could be right. I was not paying to much attention when I drawed her. I was just felt the need to draw a woman. I guest she looks like that because of the shading. A deeper shadow on her right side of the face would be able to correct that.
Ok, I'll try to pinpoint the defect and to adjust it. Thank you Rick and TyKeil for being so attentif and sensitive. Now, that is constructive criticism!

[sarN]

thats a wicked cool robot
the feet look awesome :D

[NoJo]

thats awsome art!
great work... keep it up :)

[Avatar-3DT]

sarN I just wanted to prove I can still do mechanics. It's been a while since I have draw something like that.
NoJo, looks like you go around buddy:D
Here is N'Naggy's real face:

[ido]

awesome art work and design as always avatar :)

[Daniel]

damn, that is really cool. He's got 4 nipples!!! :p :p :p

[RickStefani]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY. I can not talk, That is too cool. God, you are a master of characture design. I cannot tell you how many pro's I have seen that you blow away. Oops. I did not do my research. You probably do work as a characture designer don't you?

[rage]

well, i dont like the last chreature...look at the legs...they suck!!!
im telling u it this way, cause I know u can do better my man...SO DO IT!

[Avatar-3DT]

You have a point there rage buddy. In fact I did this one just because I promised that I'll show the real face of N'Naggy. Time just don't allow me to do the things I want to do but a promise was a promis. So I had to do it no matter how.
RickStefan, believe it or not, right now I'm just unemployed.
Four months now since I cannot get something to work. All I got were projects paid in promises of greate glory. And I rarely (very rarely) work for free.

[Avatar-3DT]

I promis to work on N'Naggy and to post a profesional update as soon as I got some free time to work on it. For now, here is the lady of a thousand tears redone.

[Michael]

First of all - I really like your art - you have a great imagination. I would only suggest that you practise the perspective - it's sometiomes not very convincing.

About the lady - I think her left eye ( our right ) is too high... and I would suggest more shading - the hair would use the highlights. Experiment with lighting.

When you draw - try to visualize the thing you draw like a mesh in a 3d programme, try to see the perspective in everything - even the face. If you don't have the 3d programme - this is serious what I will tell you now - draw lines on your or your model face and draw it WITH those lines in different poses - from top 3/4, side 3/4, en face, slightely nod...and whatever comes to your head. It's a great practise, I was told to do it by my prof. I hope it'll help you.

I look forward to your other drawings.

One more thing - you gave me a kick to make it ( all rights reserved for Reverie Entertainment ) ;)

http://www.majkelangelo.republika.pl/images/Reverie/Dragons/DrakeLord.jpg

[evil_radish]

i agree with michael on all points, you are quite talanted, but you do need to work more on perspective

also sometimes your shading could use som work, its confused and hard to see where the light source is coming from...well anyways keep it up

(nice char michael)

[Avatar-3DT]

Michael-3DT, yhank you for your kind advice, be sure I will take account of it. And you are right. I don't know if is the "all monster" policy I've run my art till now, or just plain tiredness (I go to sleep at 5 o clock in the morning every day and sleep around 5 hours) but there is something definetly wrong with my lady and I think you've pointed it out. And aldo I not a big fan of schools tehniques I will try what you suggested. I'm always eager to learn. The hard way if necesary. I expect your crits anytime.

evil_radish thank you also, you are right too. But my shading tehnique is intentional. Through it I induce confuzing feeling and a certain dizzyness to the viewer. Remember, some things look better only if you see them between your eyelids.
As for perspective, I think I'll just find my self a girl to model for me. Hopefully we'll do nudes also. :D

[Daniel]

great pic Avatar, I like it way more than the first version.

[Avatar-3DT]

Thanks Dan, but my buddys are right. I got berserk with perspective and proportions. Brrrr. The more I watch her the more I ask my self what was in my mind?

[Michael]

"I got berserk with perspective and proportions. Brrrr. The more I watch her the more I ask my self what was in my mind?"

Ummm.... she's allright, there are just some TINY bitses out of perspective, that's all. Those little details make her look like I wrote.

Human mind is a living thing - it can create great things, but it gets tired. If you will look at something that you work on, you get to loose your objectiveness, flaws that are on the pic don't hurt your eye so much comparing to when you are fresh, when you slept well and have a "fresh eye". So I would like to suggest you that you sleep more, and always make corrections the day after you make something. Or ask someone to have a look at your work and say what's wrong.

About those school techniques - they aren't so frequently used, I must say - making lines on the face. I just made my prof. say some advices, he actually didn't say it to anyone else. The "3d mesh visualisation" is just the way I put it. Look at some good ink art - they shade the geometry with curves; when you would make the 3d model out of it and make the same pose, you would see that the lines are almost the same. Try that.

Thanks for appreciation, evin_radish.;)

[Avatar-3DT]

Thanks Dan, I got the reasurances and the wink in the end.

[Michael]

You meant Dan or Michael?:???:

[Avatar-3DT]

Infact I meant Michael. It seems I need to take a 2 day sleep. But I don't have the time. Ok, a promise: soon a werewolf illuminated in a realistic manner. I think.

[ClAyMan]

Ey, michael, great advices! I'm also new on drawing by hand, i sure could use some advice. I possess so many ideas but I don't have the technique or artistic mind to make something out of 'em! I've only done photomanips in Photoshop so far (pretty good at it since i've done it for many years), but one have realized the limits of expressing oneself this way. I'm trying to learn some digital painting and 3d, but it get's harder then necessary when you have noone to ask or get proper crits from. I can't even draw by hand... yet i'm trying. Looking at other drawings, trying to copy them. A photo in the background, drawing over it - trying to learn the outlines and shadings of objects.

Do you have some pages with sceetchpractises and advices?


Cheers

By the way (don't know, you must hear this everyday): 3dtotal is the best designsite i've ever seen. Greets to you all who keep it up and running!

[Avatar-3DT]

ClAyMan, exercising is the best way to learn. So take it easy and draw a lot. Copying things is another great way to learn - for starters - but take care, you can get addicted. As for your imagination, just putt it in practice. There's no better way to satisfy yourself. And if something does not look right, draw it again and again until you have your desired effect.
About the crits... Just make yourself a thread, post some of your work, and we, the voultures, we'll soon be around "peaking" at your art :D

[ClAyMan]

Originally posted by Avatar
ClAyMan, exercising is the best way to learn. So take it easy and draw a lot. Copying things is another great way to learn - for starters - but take care, you can get addicted. As for your imagination, just putt it in practice. There's no better way to satisfy yourself. And if something does not look right, draw it again and again until you have your desired effect.
About the crits... Just make yourself a thread, post some of your work, and we, the voultures, we'll soon be around "peaking" at your art :D

"About the crits... Just make yourself a thread, post some of your work, and we, the voultures, we'll soon be around "peaking" at your art"

Correction: About the crits... Just make yourself a thread, post some of your work, and we, the voultures, we'll soon be around laughing our a**es of at your art

:)

Yeah, i know that "practice is the way to success" and so on, but i don't have the patience to keep drawing that same object over and over again! Hell, i haven't even completed a whole 3d-model yet - lack och patience (and technique?) i guess. I want to know everything NOW, be able to draw everything NOW! Aaaah! *going insane*

I'll try draw a simple box and rotate it a few degrees and draw it again... i'll probably smash the hand together with the pencil and paper in the wall after 5min, but it feels nice to say "i'll try!" for the moment :) Would be cool if anyone, with more skills, could do the same thing and post it here, just to get some reference (...and a person to direct the anger and frustration at) ;)

Off to work now, greets

[Avatar-3DT]

I don't know a faster way, sorry. Sometimes I wish I could draw faster than the speed of light but I know I can't so I learned patience. There is no need to draw over and over the same drawing, but the same character, improving it every time.

As I've promised, the werewolf.

[ClAyMan]

Avatar: damnit! stop posting your hiIamtryingtopushClAyMandown-art! :)
That's a _realy_ nice drawing! Finish the pentagram which the wolf stands at (or is it a pentagram? it's just one line left...)

Truly amazing, cheers

[xeltestic]

aah! superbe bro! ...like usually
:)
love the stance, the way he looks at u!
would have maybe want to see him with sharper claws.
love the feet. the hair is amazing!
great the way u used to hide his genitalian region:D
cheers x

[Michael]

ClayMan - try this - buy yourself a wooden puppet, that has evey joint movable. Pose it in some simple position for the start and ... draw it AS CLOSELY AS POSSIBLE. Then - turn it 30 degrees left and draw again. Try lots of different views. BUT... that needs patience.

You can learn patience, you know.... ;) Just draw. :D

Avatar - better, great respect for the detais... but he's still a bit flat... Try different angles of lightsources. And don't be affraid of making shadows deep black. ;)

[Avatar-3DT]

ClAyMan, sorry to make you feel like that. Why don't you drop the despair and take it as a contest. Come on man, prove me you can be better than me!
As for the penthagrame, well, that isn't a penthagrame, just my personal rhune, somekind of secret signature. If you'll look closely you'll see it on many of my drawings.

xeltestic, at first I wanted to make sharp long claws, so long that could touch the ground, but I've decided to go with smaller claws, long enough to ripp anybody appar 'tho. Glad you like it. As for genitalias it was pretty easy. "He" is a "she". :D

Michael-3DT great advice with the puppet. Maybe I will use it too. As for the shadows, I use a pencil, so the only way to make the shadows darker would be tweaking them on photoshop. Thank you for your professional hints, be sure I'm all ears. It would be even better if you have some examples to show me.

[hells angel]

still tryin to pick up the pick up my teeth after my jaw crashed on the floor and broke!!!.....wow!!!...that is some awesome work........probably when i'm free....would like to model those in 3d.....wow again.....ok..i cant stop sayin wow.....wow!!.......

[Avatar-3DT]

hells angel, what can I say...Wow! :D

[Michael]

Well... I use different types of pencils - 2H for the skin in light to make it "fleshy", HB for the first sketch and base shading, then 2B for midtones and 8B for deep shadows. This will make the shadows really deep. Then tweaking them a bit with levels in PS and voila...;)

[Avatar-3DT]

Mike, I live in a small town of a small country. The comerciants here bring only the merchendise that sells out and I must say to you that it would be useless to try to find those kind of pencils. But as soon as I will travel to the capital I'll have those in my list. All that I've used was a 0,5 HB mine. Don't think I'm cheap or something but I must organize myself around the resources I have.

[Avatar-3DT]

Freshly out of my drawing board, still smoking: Thorr the Thunderouse, God of War and Thunder, keeper of aliances, protector of Middleearth (Midgard), host of Valhalla. A guy you don't want to mess with and my favorite god of all mithology. In his right hand, Mjolnir, the mighty iron magic hammer, forged by the Nibelung Dwarfs for the god himself.

[hells angel]

very nice sketch......Thor is my favourite norse god too......no offense but i always prefered to look at him in a superman built.....and i always pictured a much larger hammer head for Mjolinir...thats a personal opinion......great work though.
I'd love to see ur take on the midgard serpent or the Fenrir wolf.

[ClAyMan]

Originally posted by Avatar
Freshly out of my drawing board, still smoking: Thorr the Thunderouse, God of War and Thunder, keeper of aliances, protector of Middleearth (Midgard), host of Valhalla. A guy you don't want to mess with and my favorite god of all mithology. In his right hand, Mjolnir, the mighty iron magic hammer, forged by the Nibelung Dwarfs for the god himself.

Realy nice! You ain't even from up north, yet you know so much about our ancient mythology.

Realy nice sceech, would love to see Oden, Fenrir wulf or Valhalla (spelling? only know the Swedish therms...).

Actualy, don't know if you know it, Thors' belt and mjolnir often have swastikas; it's taboo to write 'em nowadays, but as a little info :)


Cool anyway! nothing to complain at.

[ClAyMan]

Originally posted by Avatar
Freshly out of my drawing board, still smoking: Thorr the Thunderouse, God of War and Thunder, keeper of aliances, protector of Middleearth (Midgard), host of Valhalla. A guy you don't want to mess with and my favorite god of all mithology. In his right hand, Mjolnir, the mighty iron magic hammer, forged by the Nibelung Dwarfs for the god himself.

Realy nice! You ain't even from up north, yet you know so much about our ancient mythology.

Realy nice sceech, would love to see Oden, Fenrir wulf or Valhalla (spelling? only know the Swedish therms...).

Actualy, don't know if you know it, Thors' belt and mjolnir often have swastikas; it's taboo to write 'em nowadays, but as a little info :)


Cool anyway! nothing to complain at.

[Avatar-3DT]

hells angel, Thorr was a party man. He liked to eat and drink a lot. Do you know how a party in Valhalla looked like? Ok, let me tell you: All the great viking warriors stood at a long, unfashioned wood table, with Thorr in the head of the table. They eat and drink all day long and, when the day was over, they steped outside, in a large courtyard and slash each other to death. Then Thorr revived them all and they start the party again till the next sunset. Cool, no?
As for the hammer... Mjolnir was iron made. Not steel, not anything else: iron. So it was pretty heavy. And it was magical. Not even Thorr couldn't touch it without wearing a glove. It beared in it the power of thunder, so the size (in this case:)) didn't matter.

ClAyMan, aldo I'm not what you can call a norsman, I kindda look like one. I'm not very tall (1,72 m), but I'm blonde and I have blue eyes. And recent the english history studies tried to trace back the origin of the arian people. And my ancestors, as the vikings, descend from the boreean people, the original arians. So we are somekind of cousins my people and yours.
And yes, I know about swastiks but I don't need to tell you why I didn't draw them. On all the mithologies the swastiks are simbols of life and the way of the univers. Nazists perverted this symbol and the world is one benevolent symbol shorter.
I know a lot about nors mythology. I love the fact that this is the only mithology where the gods, aldo powerfull, know there must be an end to their existence.:D :D :D :D

[Rych]

Hey buddy, You know what you like all that nordsman stuff you outta check out the movie the 13th warrior. Awesome movie and well done. You picuture i think portrays him perfectly but only in one issue i don't like he looks short.


Rych

[Jazzy]

Your picture of Thor is really great, it's a wonderful drawing, the whole thing just oozes quality. Congratulations on a great pic.

So what next ? I'd love to see some more Norse mythology drawings Avatar. Maybe a picture of Thor fighting Jormungand the Midgard serpent on the day of Ragnarok ? Or Odin fighting Fenrir, or just drawings of Surt the fire giant and Hymir the sea giant ??

Mythology is such a great subject to take inspiration from. Let us know what your plans are next, i for one will be very interested to see your next drawing :D

[Avatar-3DT]

Rych, he lookes short because he is a "round" man and because there is nothing to compare him with. You have quite a point there; so I'll add something to the drawing to take out that feeling. Thanks my man!

Jazzy, I see you are a norse mithology fan also. Well, I was planning in time to draw all Asa and Vana, to make a portrait of Helja on Naglfar, reapping the clouds towards Asgard. Maybe some valkyries, maybe Loki... I must put some order into my plans first.

[Jazzy]

Wow Avatar, it sure sounds like you'll have your work cut out if you're planning to draw all those characters from Norse mythology.

I think the Valkyries could be a really interesting subject, beautiful women warriors on winged horses ........ flying around searching the battlefields for the bravest of slain warriors .... so they can take the Einherjar to Valhalla ....

I think light could play a big part in a scene like that. I read somewhere that people believed that the Valkyries' armour causes the Aurora Borealis and with that whole sort of transition from Midgard to Valhalla ..... it would be similar to the sort of passage to heaven in biblical stories. Well, it could be anyhow :D

[Avatar-3DT]

I new about the Aurora Borealis and the Valkyries armors but that would be kindda hard to represent in black and white. Instead I think I'll do a daughter of Odhinn kneeled near a dying viking warrior, kissing his forhead.
I guess we, norse fans, get togeder on this, ha? :D

[Daniel]

I love your interpretation of Thor, awesome work. You know, come to think of it, I'm surprised you've never photoshoped some color into those drawings. I'm sure it would really bring them out. :)

[hells angel]

agreed bout the facts and all...was aware of them....but i like a little "creative lisence" if u may so call it!!...hehehe...anyways.....would love to c somethin of a ragnarok scene since ur so into details.....
thor vs midgard serpent,
odin vs fenrir wolf..
now that would be something.

btw...i put up updates on my thread...didnt hear any crits from u so was wonderin..

[Avatar-3DT]

DanielB, drawing with the mouse is a little like Sysiphus work, ain't it? maybe i'm a sinner and I do time in hell for my traspassing but I'll not punish myself here on earth for wrongs I do not know. I don't own a wacom table but when I'll own one I will try to do something about those drawings, I promise.

hells angel did you checked your thread tonight?
I was thinking to do the most impressive fight on the battlefield at Ragnarockr: Heimdlar versus Loki.

[Jazzy]

If you do Heimdall, don't forget his gold teeth :D

[Avatar-3DT]

It would be kindda hard to do that when I'll do it just in greyscale, isn't it:D. I was thinking to bring forth the ideea of Heimdlar-Light, Loki-Darkness, and to tweak with it.
But right now I'm working on a creature I dreamed a few days ago. I'm thinking to make a short animation with it, the feeling I have in that dream it too amazing to let it loose.

[Daniel]

lol yeah your right man, I've tried doing it with a mouse, it can be hell. And those wacoms aren't cheap either :roll:

[Avatar-3DT]

You've got it my friend! And I must say to you, I don't really have a great income. The wacom must wait for a while. Priorities buddy, priorities!

[jbsniff]

Man, If I was a company I would hire you. How long does it take you to make that stuff? oh mighty AVATAR!

Check out some of my puny sketches here.
Placid Dunes concepts (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10026)

And check out something else here
Greek battlefield (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9241)

[Avatar-3DT]

jbsniff, if I would be a company I would hire myself:D .
I know your 3d work but I didn't know you draw too. The sketches are cute and they will do great for a short animation if you have a script for them. As for my drawings, believe it or not is all depending on my mood. If I'm struck with some great ideea and I'm afraid that if I'll stop I'll loose it I don't stop till is finished. Otherwise I draw 10-15 minutes then I do something else, after an hour or two I draw again for a while and so on. It may take me 2-3 hours or 10, 12 hours per drawing.
And now my dream creature.
I call them Night Maidens. I cannot give you the feeling I have in my dream seeng those creatures flying above my courtyard, but it was awsome. The colors are made in photoshop, the background is just a picture which, unfortunaly, I don't know the artist.
Hey, Daniel, look, I draw in Photoshop with the mouse! Am I crazy or what?!

[jbsniff]

do you draw these things from your head? That's the hardest thing for me. I can't really seem to get the perspective right. I can draw anything I see, it's just that damn perspective!!

[Daniel]

awesome job, and with a mouse! You see, that what I wanted to see :D

[Avatar-3DT]

jbsniff, maybe my problem is that I draw only from my head. I got problems with the perspective also (Mike can testify on that) but its not a thing that is too hard to learn. At least for me. As I said, this is what I've dreamed about one night.

DanielB, to be completly honest with you, I didn't draw this with the mouse, just applied the colors. Here is the original draw that I've scanned and then colored with photoshop.

[jbsniff]

so, how do you go about learning perspective with figures? What's the secret?

[Avatar-3DT]

Portraits my friend, portraits! All my buddies got their portraits on the wall in their chambers. All you need is some paper, a pencil and the will to do it. And ofcourse a very pacient, forgeving friend that won't mind if his face looks like Igor's hunchback.

[LeoBasil]

would you mind making something like a tutorial ?

Like making another drawing and scanning it's progress all 5 to 50 minutes or whenever you enter a "new stage".(from first 10 lines to concept stage to finished drawing) So we could see how you work, if you use help-lines wich are rubbed out later, or if you draw the overall shape and then go into details step by step or topdown or whatever :)

I would realy appreciate this... and im sure others would as well.:roll:

[Borg]

Wow great work avatar, i think i will have to get back in to drawing again:D

[character]

great stuff man, i'm glad i found this thread. keep it up =)

[Avatar-3DT]

LeoBasil, sorry to give you an answer so late. I do not have the time now to writte a tutorial but, if you are interested, a few weeks ago (maybe months, I don't really know, my time values are really scrued up) I did wrote a tutorial on how to draw a dragon. It's posted at www.eeye.us
If you are interested you can take a look.
Borg, great ideea. I'm glad I inspired you to draw again. Good luck with your work.
character, thanks. I would but, unfortunaly, the friend that lended me the scanner took it back for some work he has to do. So, for a while, there won't be any posts. But I hope this won't be for a long time.

[Avatar-3DT]

Ok, no post for a long, long time. And I'll be missing for a while since I don't have a scanner right now. But I have some characters lurking in my computer that I didn't post here before, and that's for sure. And here goes one:

[LeoBasil]

i dont see anything :(
only me, or is something wrong with that post ?

[Daniel]

sorry to say I can't see it either :roll:

[EvEr666]

the only thing i see is an "X"...

[Daniel]

it's a nice X though! Excellent work avatar, it has such bold definition and shading :D

[Avatar-3DT]

What about now?
And stop with the laughing, I know where you live!!!:grr:
:D :D :D

[hpslashluvr]

Better now:dance: :dance: I hate you. In a good way.:D

[Daniel]

lol I agree, me too

[loupiat]

Hey

Sorry for that question i'm just curious...How many drawing do you do a week..? you never sleep ?

Congrtaulations anyway..

Cheers

[EvEr666]

damn...now i cant see the x any more :D:D:D:D:D
i dont know why, but i see no X now...either way...nice drawing...
what's his story?

[Avatar-3DT]

hpslashluvr - Ok, dancing bananas! That's better. And you can hate me all you want buddy, on one condition: you MUST love me!:D
DanielB, man, I really dig your avatar! I finished a few weeks ago Legacy of Kain- Blood Omen2. A real kick-arss! But to easy at the end. The boss I mean. The suspence is killing me, I really hope Legacy of Kain-"Defiance" is on the way!
loupiat, I never count them. And I sleep; about 4 hours a night (a day better to say, I love to stay up at night). 6 if I'm lucky and 8 if I'm really tired.
EvEr666Ma bucur ca-ti pace amice! ;)
I promise to draw you a big, big X. And the story... It's just a character design for an online game.
And here is the next

[sarN]

oo i like it :D
but does every sci fi game / movie have to have a character with a scar going across the eye? dig the gun :D

[Daniel]

really sweet drawing man, reminds me of unreal tournament. :D

PS. Yeah me too, i can't wait for the next installment of the legacy of kain series. The game is supposed to be bigger I hear since they didn't make one of their usual cg animations at the beginning. The game is due... november 18th, just checked

[Avatar-3DT]

sarN, in fact the scar was my choice. In real life you cannot have that kind of scar without loosing the eye or just the sight of that eye. But in movies and drawings that kind of scar makes a guy look though. So, thats why the scar.
Oh, ofcourse, it could have beed across the face, or only spliting the chin 'til under the eye, but I prefere this one. Subjectif choice.
DanielB, thanks man.
And I'm really sorry they had to take out the cg movie, I like those movies. To be honest I played games only to see the movies. Ofcourse, Legacy of Kain (all the series) was not the case.

[Michael]

Avatar - I really like the concepts you make... The armour ideas, the creativity of yours.... But why did you stop making pencil drawings? Did I discourage you? I love the pics, especially the rat - man - I love the way you made fur on this guy. My propositions were just about the technique, I didn't mean your's bad, I just wrote how I would draw it... Post more of kickin-butt pencil drawings, man.;) :)

And I don't mean that you're bad with ink... but you're better with pencil.:)

[Daniel]

I agree, I like his pencil work better. The last one he posted, Thor, seems to come alive you know. Ink is more cold :p

[Avatar-3DT]

Michael-3DT, don't worry buddy, it has nothing to do with you the fact that I didn't post any more drawings lately. It only happened that my scanner was gone for a while and I had a lot of work to do around the house and looking for a job. Freelancing sucks (at least for a beginner like me). So soon I'll post a redone version of Thorr (background added) and some new drawings that I still work on.
DanielB, yeah, ink is colder. That where the color comes to give wormth.

[Michael]

Can't wait to see them, bud. :D ;) :)

[Downup]

mkay.. so why does this forum have 5stars?









:dance: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :dance:

=) this is awsome WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Avatar-3DT]

I'm so ashamed, I couldn't come with anything 'cause I'm busy like hell and there is so much work on my head that I bearly see outside! But, to add at least some drops on the desert that has become my thread, I humbly submit these concept weapons for you guys. And please, forgive my lack of presence a little bit more.

[jbsniff]

I love it man, nothing but the best!

Check out some of my puny sketches here.

click me please (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10026)

[Avatar-3DT]

Until the pencil work is coming togeder, here are my fallen angels. Beware of them, they feed on the mortals souls!:grr:

[Avatar-3DT]

Ok, no replys. So I have to understand that my fallen angels didn't got your attention. Ok, maybe Thorr and his new background will.
Enjoy.

[jbsniff]

That's awsome man, do you just draw all day long?

[Michael]

I like your respect for details. :) Great work.

[Avatar-3DT]

So I have to understand you like it?

[MrArmless]

you should :) it's funkay

[Avatar-3DT]

Hey, Armless, funky you say? What about this? (Another "redone)

[EvEr666]

about the THOR image...who is the one in the back...Wotan???
i mean in the upper part of the image...

and about the latest "redone"

the moon is in his back...but still the shadow is in his left...ODD...dont u think???

[MrArmless]

Not that Odd ever, that werewolf is headed for campfire to feed on some poor humans.. in fact he's pretty close now, that's why the shadows are as they are.. ;) (isn't that right?)

those backgrounds really help put a finishing touch to a drawing, the lighter shade of grey doesn't overwhelm the image as much as to distract from the main subject but complement them nicely.

I likes. Funkayeth.

[Avatar-3DT]

EvEr666 in fact you're right buddy! But I had to sacrifice real illumination for scenic effect because the character was already done and, putting the moon in the corect position for his illumination, would have take it out of the page. So...
MrArmless, I like how you use your imagination! That's the way everybody should look at my drawings, trying to find the story behind every character or scene. Thanks!;)

[Michael]

Originally posted by Avatar
So I have to understand you like it?

heheh... yeah, I like it.;) :D

[Avatar-3DT]

My latest drawing. It's called "Travel to Anteoch" and, ofcourse, it has a story. Just to help you a little bit:

"The road proved to be rough. The winter struggled yet with the first signs on spring. But Yelotty, the Grand Priestess of Galatheon was summoned before the High Council of the Seven and, despite the war between the dwarfs and the gnols and the perils of the road in those times, she had to travel with only a handful of guards over the peaks of Shimallan Mountains, over the half frozen river of Katurrian border".

[Michael]

Great, I love it. I love the lizard back there... there is lacking a bit of blackness in the front , on the first plane. You could ealisy add it if not with B pencils, then with Burn tool in PS or whatever programme you're scanning and workwith....;)

You have a great imagination, man. Keep developing and I'll be asking you for an autograph someday.;) :)

[loupiat]

Bravo...I can't believe you draw that within 3 or 4 hours as you said in a previous message...

Cheers...

[Avatar-3DT]

Michael-3DT, thanks for the crits. You are right. I'll add some darkness with pencils. I use photoshop for scanning and to adjust a little bit the levels and the brightness/contrast. I don't know about those autographs, I'm not in for fame. For glory maybe, but not for fame. And if will ever be the case (aldo I don't think so), it will be my pleasure. I've learned alot from your crits.

loupiat, 3-4 hours if I cumulate all the time I work. Due to time lacking I may work 3-4 to 7 days on a drawing, but only 10-15 minutes a day. So I'm not so unbelievable.

[Ragnar]

ok... I have just spent at least two hours looking through this thread alone :) my trusty 56k modem hasn't dissconnected ONCE.. it must be a sign from the gods. and yet I have only got to page 15 of this seemingly endless post :) I have decided to post a reply just to find out how long this post is :)

First of all I would like to say wow... your work is truly awe inspiring.. I'm a relative newcomer and my drawing skills were great as a child... they then got "put on the backburner" for a while and I'm making a come back now :) it is really great to know that you haven't had any formal training... I really thought that I was at a big diss-advantage for not being "taught" but your work goes to show that formal training isnt needed...
I really liked your Paladin.. captured the essence of righteiousness perfectly you have inspired me to no end and its great to hear that you share some viking blood like me :D congratulations on the work mate.. and I wish you the best of luck in the future...

[Daniel]

man Avatar, 3 new ones! lol I love the one with the werewolf, I dunno, I've always been a sucker for the whole werewolf/vampire gothic type mythology. So that one speaks to me, but Thor is surely impressive as well, the background is great. The one for antioch seems to not have ennough contrast yet, but I'm sure you'll make it as impressive at the others I'm sure.

[Avatar-3DT]

Ragnar, I'm happy everytimes someone tells me I have inspired him (her). I know what a dragg a 56k modem can be, I use one myself so I'm amazed to find out that you've spended so much time just to view my posts. A bow to you.
As for the training in the drawing art, I have to tell is always welcomed. My self-training was as if I was fallowing an artschool: knowing the muscles and the way they bend and strech, the proportions of every body part and of the faces I was drawing... So you're in for a ride my friend. You'll have to be a stuborn and a curiouse being to pass the test the Art has lied before you. Take it a an initiation. At the end you'll be better.
I thank you for your best wishes and may the best wishes be bestowed upon you and the ones you love.

DanielB, in fact just a new one. The other two are just redone. As for the last one, it's just a minor problem. To be honest, it will take me 5 minutes with the pencils and about 3 with photoshop to fix the problem. Maybe tomorrow I will fix the problem. And just for you, I will soon draw a vampire.

[oompa_loompa]

Amazing Amzing AMAZING work ...


Amazing really isn't the proper word to use.

I bow to your talents and admire each work with mounds of respect and honor.

I know I can't draw to 1/100000000000th of the scale you can ... so seeing it done and done on a regular basis ... really stuns a person. You probably don't realize what you mean to alot of the lesser skilled people out there. It gives me hope to know that there is a point that I can work towards. It gives people like me goals.

You are a true craftsman and devine artist.

Keep drawing and keep us posted ;)

AND GET A WEB SITE ALREADY!!!!!!!!

:dance:

[Avatar-3DT]

Thank youoompa_loompa, I touched by your trust, but I'm as humble like you as I dear to glaze upon wonderful work as Da Vinci's or Michelangelo. They are the true artist, depicting life in such way it touches our souls not only with the level of details, but with the color, the movement and the story behind every masterpiece.
Imagination will be enough if you want to excel, for imagination will make you desire to share with the world your dreams. You'll have to work alot, but a smile and a kind word (like yours now) will be a greater price than any sum you will ever receive.
So keep up the work and make your dreams come true.
Thank you.

[Daniel]

I agree Avatar, such a great artist. Get a website already! :D

[Ragnar]

I'm using your pictures as desktop wallpapers to inspire me... :D

[Avatar-3DT]

DanielB, I didn't got an website but I did got a gallery. I think the link of it is at the bottom of my page. :p
Ragnar, thank you, this honors me! I use as desktops wallpapers from Blizzard and aldo I would never dare to compare myself with the great artists there, the fact that you respect so my work is touching to me.

And some more work i've done these days:
Greyelf assasin Saris. Don't get too close, he may think you've just offended him;)