(ORC Competition)

[m.shaheen]

Dear All,
Here is my first Wip thread in 3dtotal.com
I and some other members (maybe 2 or 3) will start clean competition just to improve our talents for making a full character.

Each member will post his UPDATE here.

Here are the rules

- Character type: ORC (Every one can choose his own concept)
- Sculpting
- UV mapping
- Dynamic pose

-  Period: 30 day, after day 15, there will be check point
- Competition will be from 10-5-2009 to 10-6-2009
- check point on 24-5-2009

Members are :

- M.shaheen
- M.ramdan
- Power 3d
- The_Caveman
- kirgan
- _fadi_

Notes: if any one would join us that would be fine (you can use a FREE base mesh if you like).

Concepts images will follow.

[m.ramdan]

hey dude . i guess that would be awesome inshaa ALLAH !
The benefit from this competition is to make a full character in certain time and to share ur work follow and learn from others .

[power3d]

iam here :D

lets go

[xxxcubanxxx]

Sounds good, so what about requirements for the mesh, poly budget, textures, presentation, etc. Could you be more specific about those before we just go at it? :shout:

[The_Caveman]

Muhammad proposed me to join in as well and I'd be more then happy to participate :D

you guys going with the WoW orcs or the Lord of the Rings ones? or do we pick the one we want? :D

[RHedendahl]

I might join has well. But it would be nice to have a list on the the requirements cuban wrote about.

[m.ramdan]

Sounds good, so what about requirements for the mesh, poly budget, textures, presentation, etc. Could you be more specific about those before we just go at it? :shout:

The aim here is not to make a character for games or cinema
Its about to make a full character with good quality, so u have the option to make it for games, cinema, or even for digital sculpting
But with good quality and be sure that most of the part are separated from each other, cuz u can go and retopo later on to convert it for games or wt ever
And that’s why we are going to make the uvs to be sure that the model will be ready for the next step which is texturing or rig or wtever
So again u have the all the freedom for the poly count as long as it’s free and apple to retopo later on if u like (aim is: to make a full character you can use for wt ever later on or even for ur demo reel-any tips about making modeling demo reel I will be here and I will share u guys wt I learnt from vfs and my small experience)

For the base mesh u could use any FREE base mesh as long as it has no details or levels on the top of it, which it could help to make you focus more abt the proportions and the sculpting

Also u guys have the right to use any s/w u like
Zbrush , mudbox or even modo
Cuz by the way we could share wt the best in each program and learn from each others abt the tools and the work flows

[m.ramdan]

Muhammad proposed me to join in as well and I'd be more then happy to participate :D

you guys going with the WoW orcs or the Lord of the Rings ones? or do we pick the one we want? :D

hey dude , it would be my pleasure my vfs dear to join us :)
i which all of us get the time to make this goes right
u can make any type or orcs you like dude as long as it looks like orcs hahaha

best of luck man

[m.ramdan]

I might join has well. But it would be nice to have a list on the the requirements cuban wrote about.

it would be nice if u join us
the rules are very basic and simple , nothing fancy here
read the the rule on the 1st post

[RHedendahl]

Here is what I got so far, using a old mesh I done myself:

[m.ramdan]

very nice starting kirgan

[m.shaheen]

Three more guys joined us, Welcome.

kirgan, that's very good start

[RHedendahl]

Thx both of you, here is an update on the head:

[m.ramdan]

dude take it easy , i didnt start yet . lol

[power3d]

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/8383/orcz.jpg


hmmm ... thinkin

[The_Caveman]

seems like everybody is off to a nice start ^^ curious to see what wolverine+orc will look like ^^.

I'll be putting mine on a chariot pulled by two boars. The pose will be them rushing down the battle field as he swings his main weapon on the chariot. his main weapon being an assembly of his victims skulls hold together by a chain and covered in spikes. doing some rough sketches before diving into my bed. i m not much of a drawer :p

images tomorrow

Cheers
Jozef

[Marv]

Nice initiative. Got room for one more?

[m.ramdan]

Nice initiative. Got room for one more?

yes sure man , u r welcome to join us

[The_Caveman]

Well here goes for my first one. about 3 or 4 hours into modeling the chariot. needs some more arrows, some more damages and the animals pulling it. :)

Cheers

[power3d]

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/4930/xorc.jpg

is that cool ?

[TekNeek]

power3d: I'd suggest you going for clawed gauntlets ;) rather than green bulky Wolverine

[m.ramdan]

The_Caveman : nice . would u make the orc pulling it ?!

power3d : i love the u thing in a creative why for mixing 2 concepts in 1
but dont u think that the concept need more work ..i mean its like wolverine with green skin color + big teeth


for me : i done from all other work i had to do today i guess
and i will start with u guys from tomorrow inshaa ALLAH

[The_Caveman]

Little update. about 3hours into modeling on this beast. There will be two of them pulling the chariot. Mix between Mammouth, Wild Boars etc and some references from the internet ;)

Not happy with the front yet but will fix that once in zbrush

Cheers
Jozef

[Marv]

I really like the chariot and the beast pulling it. The chariot is looking really sweet. I also like the wolverine/orc idea. Try adding something more to it, cause right now its just like someone pointed out just an orc with wolverines sideburns and claws.
Heres where I'm at the moment.
Got the base head done.

It's more of a lord of the rings style orc, this

[m.ramdan]

hey guys here is my starting point

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1715/41550306.jpg (http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=41550306.jpg)

[m.ramdan]

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/3872/copyofd.jpg (http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?image=copyofd.jpg)

[The_Caveman]

Nice Marv, like where that head is heading :D and cool to see a LOTR orc too :D

Yours looks massive Muhammad, looking forward to the next step :)

Here is some work on the sculpt of the beast. just laying down muscles right now :) the legs need some work still ^^
Cheers
Jozef

[m.ramdan]

haha man , u seems dont make anything till thinking abt the challenge , no am just kidding
really good and fast progress
keep up

[RHedendahl]

Great start everybody, can't wait to se some more updates from you.
Here is an update on my own orc:

[MStandar]

Looking nice, all of them,
I thinking of joining but im not sure yet, i suck at sculpting, and i have to see if i have the time before i start something :/

[neozerahan]

do u people have slot for me????:o:o

[The_Caveman]

Sweet progress Kirgan!! looking forward to more :D

@neozerahan: Plenty of slots free, feel free to join in :)


Here is one more update from me. some more detailing needed (pores and such on this beast) and armor.

Cheers
Jozef

[Marv]

Great work everyone. That orc is really looking massive kirgan.
I like the boar beast so far. U gonna give him some badass war armour?
Nice start on the base m.ramdan

Here's where I'm at the moment. Slowly getting basemesh done.

[RHedendahl]

Good start Marv.
Great progress on the boar Caveman!
MStandar, join! :).
Here is an update on my model:

[MStandar]

Good start Marv.
Great progress on the boar Caveman!
MStandar, join! :).
Here is an update on my model:

"aja om du säger det så :P"

yeah i see what i can do :p

[guitar-boy]

guys you are very imazing
very good competition
keep going gays your work are awsome

hahaha mohamed at last i see you in workshop start with maya all this time you were used zbrush

[MStandar]

I have a trial of zbrush, anyone know how to learn the basics pretty fast?.

[The_Caveman]

Sweet update Kirgan :D

MStandar: The fastest way I think would be to play with it and try out different things :) stay at low subd levels first dont go to high to fast. I think there are some tutorials here on 3dtotal

here is an update on the boar :). and one with the chariot. almost figured out how to attach the two together. This is a render without displacement maps and stuff though :)

Cheers
Jozef

[The_Caveman]

no updates? ^^ but its the weekend now so looking forward to some wicked sculpts

here is one from me.
added in the second boar. working on the saddle for that one as well as the war drums he'll be carrying

cheers

[power3d]

hello =)

finally i got 15 min 2 work on proportion (using zbrush male base).. and still working on it
~ iam so slow :( ~

ramadan-Marv-kirgan-Caveman gr8 WORK guys ..

[Mr.T]

The_Caveman: Sweeeeeet update!! :dance:

[The_Caveman]

Nice start Power-3D :D. his forarms seem a tiny bit thin but having that in 15 min is pretty cool and fast so I figure u already saw the arms :D

Thanks Mr.T.

here is an update. one with the war drums and one with the final detailing and armor of the boars. now unwrapping, generating displacement maps and tweak the boar itself a tiny bit more in Zbrush :)

Cheers


http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/Boar17.jpg

http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/Boar21.jpg

[guitar-boy]

CAVE MAN YOUR DESIGEN is incredible
very nice
i like it so much ....iam waiting for the other desigens
and for your updates

[IsmaiL R]

coool wip

goood work The_Caveman

can't wait for updates:D

[IsmaiL R]

kirgan amazing dude
:):)

[Marv]

Been working slow, but heres where im at at the moment

Great work everyone. The chariot is really amazing.

[m.ramdan]

awesome updates for every one

i know am toooooooo late now ( getting busy with my work and freelancing )
i will start as soon as i can
I'm still IN =)
But really awesome updates

[The_Caveman]

Sweet updates Marv!! really getting the feeling of an Orc of Mordor :D!!

Hope you're not working to hard Muhammed !! (You still in Vancouver? or moved back to Egypt?)

Here is what I got so far :) everything is almost unwrapped
Cheers
Jozef

http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/Boar28.jpg

[m.ramdan]

hey dude , i went bk to Egypt even before the graduation
today it was like my 1st day to take good rest ..sleep , eat and went to c a movie =)
( wolverine )it was cool
and tomorrow i have meeting , i which i can get myself bk and start with my orc

for ur updates ..man u become awesome
u know i like this one more than the angry face u did last time
so be$t of luck my friend

[The_Caveman]

Oh okok, hope u had a good days rest then and hope to see some updates soon :D
Glad u like my updates and well here is a new one ^^

dont mind the fur right now, forgot to turn it off lol
Cheers
Jozef

http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/Boars.1.png

[Marv]

Sweet work on the textures The_Caveman. Really like it and the modelling details.

Quick update.

Ready for good ol' ZBrush i think. Gonna make some sort of weapon and maybe a shield as well.

[The_Caveman]

Cant wait to see the Zbrush pass Marv :D he is gonna kick some serious ass ^^. what app are you using? Maya? 3ds max? or?

here is an update from me
a wood test and a full render

Cheers

http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/test07.jpg

http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/Boars.2.png

[Marv]

quick question. I was thinking Id split my base mesh into several subtools, such as the arm, head, legs and torso. How do i prevent them from separating when i divide the different parts?

[Zoli]

quick question. I was thinking Id split my base mesh into several subtools, such as the arm, head, legs and torso. How do i prevent them from separating when i divide the different parts?

Well...select the parts you would like to sculpt it ( legs,arms...) make a polygroup ,polygon mode ->ppolygon propeties, than if you in max, assign a Multi/Sub-Object , for example you have 4 polygroup (arms,legs,torso,head) set the mat. 4 :), after it , export,
in ZBRUSH -> pref. ->importexport->Import Mat As Groups , just turn it on, than import ur modell, and whoalaa! :))))

[m.ramdan]

i am sry guys , i got other stuff to make
i dont know wt to say
but i guess its the time to get some cash
am sry for not participating

but who knows , i may leave everything and go bk again and start finish wt i start up with


good luck everyone

[power3d]

The_Caveman .. man the competition is about orcs ??? shoo ur pigs away

=) nice work i loved it keep it up .. and all of u guys

... and hmmmm iam embarrassing ,, here's my updates

[The_Caveman]

loool really is it an orc competition? oops :D ^^ nah starting work on the orc on monday ^^ the chariot and boars should be done by then

I love ur muscle definition on the legs!! sweet!!
keep the updates coming everybody

and Muhammed I hope that at some point we will see an amazing Orc from you too :D good luck with the money making!!

http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/Boars5.jpg

[m.ramdan]

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/9277/70461664.jpg (http://img38.imageshack.us/my.php?image=70461664.jpg)

[m.ramdan]

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/3159/54197078.jpg (http://img29.imageshack.us/my.php?image=54197078.jpg)

[m.ramdan]

more 20 mins..


http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/4201/24030677.jpg (http://img30.imageshack.us/my.php?image=24030677.jpg)

[m.ramdan]

update ..today i got the time to come bk ...and try to share something :(

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/1055/51881101.jpg (http://img33.imageshack.us/my.php?image=51881101.jpg)

[The_Caveman]

!! ur a machine Mohammed :D. looking cool. I love the horns on him!!

[m.ramdan]

thx dude =)
here is model from zbrush to maya to fix my base and be ready for sculpting

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7734/97706174.jpg (http://img38.imageshack.us/my.php?image=97706174.jpg)

[m.ramdan]

update :-
i guess the hands should be huge than that !


http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/5972/38677093.jpg (http://img199.imageshack.us/my.php?image=38677093.jpg)

[m.ramdan]

making the poly grps in zbrush (sometimes make me act crazy lol)

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/5332/zbrushdocument.jpg (http://img33.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zbrushdocument.jpg)

[The_Caveman]

Mohammed has been unleashed :D !! looking forward to the sculpts mate!!.

Quick question, whats polygroups?

here is an update on the second boar. he needs some more tweaks on the skin to make him look different from the first one eventhough it already has its own texture ^^
Now attacking the chariot for unwrapping

Cheers

http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/Boars.6.png

[m.ramdan]

hey dude, poly grps such an awesome option in zbrush
it allow u to separate ur model into many part
if u notes : i have many colors on my wirefram
i can c each area as a separate part

here is an example :-

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/3760/66926601.jpg (http://img198.imageshack.us/my.php?image=66926601.jpg)

[The_Caveman]

oooh sweet!! gonna try that out on the orc.

[m.ramdan]

look ..the main thing here is u have to select the parts that u want in lvl 1
not lvl2 r 3 or wtever
LVL 1

[MStandar]

Looking Good so far, both of you :)
The_Caveman when are you gonna start on the orc xD

[guitar-boy]

good job guys
all of your works are great

[m.ramdan]

quick update.. i dont have concept so its kind like am sketching in zbrush now
to figure out the best shape


http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/4503/93956439.jpg (http://img29.imageshack.us/my.php?image=93956439.jpg)

[OMIDT]

that`s gone be better every time i looking again on this thread.
good luck.

[The_Caveman]

nice mohammed!! he definitly has the orc look to him!! :D. this kinda weird look in the eyes like they arent very smart cool!!

here is an update from me and I should be starting the Orc tomorrow if all goes well ^^
Cheers
jozef

http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/Boars.8.png

[Siah]

These are looking awesome. Any chance of me joining? or am I way too late?

[m.ramdan]

Siah ,,,u can join for sure

[NeXt 0ne]

Caveman these hogs are awesome. nice, hope to see the orc soon.

[The_Caveman]

Thanks NeXt One

and as requested here is just a very quick sculpt just to get the feeling of the face I wanted (about 1h of work making the base mesh, and dumping it in zbrush to mess around with it :D) still a long way to go :) turning him into an Orc Shaman

http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/OrcShaman03.jpg

[Siah]

Cheers m.ramdan,
I'll post something shortly. :)

[The_Caveman]

Hey everybody!!

Since everybody seems extremly busy with their actual jobs and people still wanting to join I thought that maybe we could push the deadline to like the end of june instead of the 11th? unless of course we don't really care about the deadline anymore? :)
Just an idea ^^

[Siah]

Hahahaha,
I just joined and recieved a whole bunch of work to do on the same day.
So I'm easy.

[The_Caveman]

Little update.

Finally working on the orc :p ^^. he needs some more detailing but this is what I got so far. Gonna finish his face now first before adding in more details

Cheers
Jozef

http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/OrcShaman06.jpg

[The_Caveman]

very rough testing stuff with his head. long way to go!! :D

cheers
Jozef

http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/OrcShaman08.jpg

[m.ramdan]

dude , y don't u go bk to lvl one or lvl tow and use transpose to change the pose of the orc shoulder and the arm position

honestly i feel that's there is something wrong abt it

[The_Caveman]

hmmm kk, will double check that ^^. In that one his lower arms are to short though so might be throwing you off?

update on the head. nothing I like quite yet but oh well

cheers

http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/OrcShaman10.jpg

[Siah]

That details going insane Caveman. Nice.

Here's the low res of what I've started. It's divided into separate polygroups.
I'll probably complete sculpting him before i add anything else.
http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o449/josiahnathan/Screenshot_004.jpg

[m.ramdan]

very nice starting Siah

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The_Caveman : i like the new update specially the way which u use to apply the alpha

[Siah]

Cheers M.Ramdan.
Here's Sdiv 3
http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o449/josiahnathan/Screenshot_005.jpg

[The_Caveman]

Sweet progress Siah!! looking forward to the next step looking very promissing!! His arms might look a tiny bit short? but that is probably the angle he is on?

I was a bit stuck today with my orc so started thinking about the environment I wanted to put them in so digged up my tree generator I wrote back at VFS and reworked it a bit and switched the needle system of grids for a needle system of fur. this is a first test render :)

Cheers
Jozef

http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/Trees.1.png

[liquidbear]

can i join or is it a bit late to be starting ?

[Siah]

Thanks The_Caveman, i think I'm in need of some good orc refs... I'm kinda making it up from the description on Wikipedia.
What area of the arms do you think are too short? I extended the biceps/triceps area a bit, do you think it might be that the hands are too large?... I kinda like the hands big looking :)
You're whole set up is looking awesome by the way. Send some pics of your Orc so we can try to help your flow if you want.

Here's the next update of mine. Sdiv 4:
http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o449/josiahnathan/Screenshot_007.jpg

[Siah]

Here's a draw-over i did for a possible future change. Still Sdiv4:
http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o449/josiahnathan/Screenshot_009.jpg

[polysmooth]

Man, I wish I had found out about this earlier...
Maybe I'll have some time to do a quick one..
I've been wanting to do an orc anyway...

[neozerahan]

helo people...i had my net connection dead for like a week or so so i couldnt post my creature:wall::wall::wall:.....
i wil be posting my wips frm now,
hey ramadan i m sorry for such a late posting...:ugh::ugh:
if u or n1 incharge would giv me a green signal..i would post my wips right away...

by the way amazing work in this thread and i mean it...

siah-amazing work and silhoute so far!!!!
caveman-very nice work....

waiting to let my fel orc go berserk!!!!!

[m.ramdan]

neozerahan: go go go

[polysmooth]

Awe man, I see I missed the midpoint deadline...
I know I only got a little time left but I think I can crank
something out. Can I still get in?

[The_Caveman]

sweet updates Siah!! I love the big hands hehe definitly keep them. I think that you fixed the problems with the arms as well. seems right to me :)

Good luck to all the other ones!! looking forward to your updates

here is one more from me. gonna start texturing his face tonight or tomorrow.
Looks like we got one week left Mohammed or do we add in some more time?

Cheers
Jozef

http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/OrcShaman11.jpg

[Siah]

Hey The Caveman,
Thanks dude. Definitely keeping the big hands :)
I hope you don't mind, I did some draw-overs to try and figure out how to give crits on yours. I hope this isn't considered rude, i did it with the best intentions.
I found that the nose and mouth might need to be lifted up a bit and that the jawline could be more defined and masculine.
I'll post the draw-over if you're keen.


-Thanks heaps Neozerahan :) I'll keep working on him.

Cheers,
Siah.

[neozerahan]

CAVEMAN-hey man,luv the cart of urs....ur head is looking very cool too....if u dont mind u can brighten out the render of zbrush by taking the same jpeg or psd file to photoshp and by just clicking autolevels in image>adjutsments palette...nyways nice work...wating for updates....


ARRGHHGHGHGH....THE days of battle are near and i m late ..soory guys for my late coming....
heres is my wip...
i have made the base mesh in max...
unwraped in the same..
sculpting goin on in ZBRUSH.
then hopefulyif all goes right render it in max with normals and disps..

i WIL show the unwraps tomrw...
as for now my fellow brethrens,this is my boy.
I HAVE LOT MORE DETAILINGS TO DO.....so lets c how it works out...
crits would be realy helpful...

[neozerahan]

sum more shots of my sculpt...
teeth are left..

[The_Caveman]

wohoo thread is on fire!! keep going everybody.

@neozeheran: thats one cool looking guy. maybe add some chains? you could maybe twist them around the arms or instead of having twice the same for the legs have one with chains and the other one like it is maybe? just a suggestiong though :D

@Siah: I'd love to see your drawover. I dont fint that rude at all on the contrary glad you are giving me crits and suggestions. looking forward to seeing them :D

had some more detail ideas this night will add them and post them later today

Cheers
Jozef

[neozerahan]

caveman-BRO thanx a lot for the sugestion man....the chain idea is realy helpful but can u giv me an advice on how did u work on ur chain...i maen they are set very acurately so did u use any specific method or did u do it manually!!!

[Siah]

NICE neozerahan! Lookin sweet. I reckon it'll step it up again with the teeth.

@The_Caveman:
Cool man. Happy you weren't offended. This is the sketch up i did.
I just selected both the nose and the mouth and dragged them up in all views. and added a line which gives a more square/solid jawline:
http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o449/josiahnathan/OrcDrawoverforCaveman.jpg

[The_Caveman]

Thanks Siah!! I made the updates right away :D let me know if this looks more like it?

@neozerahan. I use XSI not sure what program you are using but it has a cool feature letting you duplicate objects along a curve. Pretty sure there is something like a deform by curve for Maya and 3ds max not sure though. let me know what program you are using and I'll try and digg up some info about it :)

here is a new update. trying to get the skinshader in place. a bit shiny all over but no real specmap yet :).

Cheers
Jozef

http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/ShamanTests.1.png

[m.shaheen]

WELL DONE all of you guys.
i know i'm late, but here is what i got so far.
http://i407.photobucket.com/albums/pp157/shaheen118/mud1.jpg

http://i407.photobucket.com/albums/pp157/shaheen118/face-mud.jpg

Reference+Cloth images will post by tomm. insha allah.
Waiting your update guys.

[The_Caveman]

Looking good m.shaheen!!

I fixed my bump and displacement maps. now back to zbrush and fix the are around the eyes and define those lips some more
Cheers

http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/ShamanTests.4.png

[Siah]

Very solid start m.shaheen. Looking forward to some more.

The_Caveman: Much better :) He's come along heaps and looking good. You're very close.

Boy I hope I have some more time to do some work on this. Perhaps tomorrow I will spend a day. I really want this done as a portfolio piece. Plus I hate entering and not finishing.

Keep going everyone. Pump out some more updates.

[power3d]

wow guys ... thats so awesome work here :dance:

here's my lil update

[Siah]

Good stuff power3D. Nice form.

Here's the next wip shots from me:
http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o449/josiahnathan/Screenshot_011.jpg

[m.shaheen]

http://i407.photobucket.com/albums/pp157/shaheen118/maya1.jpg

Texturing + Sculpt will follow.

[The_Caveman]

Some massive guys everybody got :D.
I love how power-3d's looks all angry already :D
and Siah love the feeling of him being a bit silly with his curved back and belly nice!!
m.shaheen dont wanna meet this guys fists :D

here is an update from me. need some rework on the specs, needs some more red to actually make certain areas look like wounds, take some black out etc :)
anyways first attempt at rotting skin

cheers
Jozef

http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/ShamanTests.5.png

http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/ShamanTests.6.png

[Siah]

Your texture work is awesome The_Caveman.
How much longer is this thing on for? any word? or does the original date stand?

[Tank[NL]]

hmm, orcs. lots of em. yarr, i been lurking this thread. caveman, i think your general direction with the texture is cool. more tolkien then warcraft, however your current texture is swamping all of your detail. its like he got burned really badly and recently.

it doesnt do the model justice. pretty much all i see is a brown-ish mess. i dont want to be harsh, but thats just how i see it. if you limit the scar-like texturing to a few areas, like near the right side of his face, that would look a lot better, imho.

gl to ya tho. and to the rest of your orc-fans ^^

[The_Caveman]

Thanks guys :D

YEah agree with you Tank[NL] (hup holland hup ;) ) I kinda went overkill on the burning and stuff should have a fixed version of all that I hope today. Thanks for the crits no worries they ain't harsh :)

[Tank[NL]]

np man, glad i could help. but uhh...


YEah agree with you Tank[NL] (hup holland hup ;) )

omgwtfbbq confused face :)

you secretly dutch or somehing? now i need to know

[The_Caveman]

Hahahahaa like the omgwtfbbq!!

Yep dutch not secretly though ^^. A dutch guy who lived in Vancouver last year and now lives in France back to where I lived the last 10 years but still consider myself dutch ;)

[Siah]

Have any of you guys checked out the shaders (materials) thread for zbrush
on the Work In Progress main page at the top.
Just downloaded some awesome materials. Gave them a go.
The next image is a big thanks to Sathe.
http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o449/josiahnathan/Screenshot_014_Two.jpg

[Tank[NL]]

Hahahahaa like the omgwtfbbq!!

Yep dutch not secretly though ^^. A dutch guy who lived in Vancouver last year and now lives in France back to where I lived the last 10 years but still consider myself dutch ;)

damn, you went place, literally...

siah, looking cool there man. the jaw could be a bit more powerfull, imo.

[neozerahan]

caveman-cool work man.....but i sum details are getiong lost bcoz of texture burn....

siah-very nice man...googogogogog

it wil take me a while for posting updates coz since 2 days my import butoon of zbrush is not orking....i trid everything changed the os...resintalled it...
but ntthing work...
so sorry for no updates for aa shot while...

[RHedendahl]

Great work all of you! Time for me to update, started on the sword today, here is what I've got so far:

[The_Caveman]

Nice progress there Siah!! looking forward to the detailing of this guy

Sweet kirgan that is gonna hurt when he smashes with it :D

@neozerahan: I hope u got zbrush to work again coz that really sucks man :S looking forward to the updates :)

I reread your post Siah and kinda agree with you. the deadline would have been the 11th of june but the thread really started moving about a week ago maybe make it last till the end of june so people that just joined and those who have problems and those who have work can take their time on finishing it?

here is an update from me :) got rid of the burning skin hehe and repainted the whole skintexture just keeping some details, here is what I got so far. still some more detailing coming up (oh and teeth are just place holders right now hehe)

Cheers
Jozef

http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/ShamanTests.12.png

http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/ShamanTests.13.png

[Siah]

Tank: Thanks for the tip man, i made his Jaw a bit wider but I'm wondering if it's the size of his body that is taking away from his head?

neozerahan: I'm trying man... seriously thinking that I'm not gonna complete it though. Well... the orc might be, but no clothes or weapons.

The Caveman: yeah, it would be awesome if we could push it till the end of the month. I'm having a heap of fun, but I'm not sure that i'll be able to pump it out in 5 days time... not complete anyway.
To be honest man I really liked the darker red look to the the sandy yellow. I agree with Tank about the swamping.... just personal preference I suppose.

Here's my latest update, with a few details. Still working on the head. Gotta move to texturing soon :( not enough time.
http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o449/josiahnathan/Screenshot_016.jpg

[The_Caveman]

Liking the cuts Siah :D!! Looking more massive with the day
I would be okay to push it to the end of june. Not sure what everyone else thinks though?

I agree on the red color but it made a huge contrast between the boars and the orc himself and all the details were gone with the darker color :( going to try and put in some more colors though. In the meanwhile a little update. painted the spec map added in some more skin details etc :)

Cheers
Jozef

http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/ShamanTests.16.png
http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/ShamanTests.17.png

[power3d]

some update .. hope u like it

... keep it up guys ,, gr8 stuff :wall:

[Marv]

hi guys! Good work from everyone.
I'm doing some sculpting i zbrush right now, can't show anything since i'm visiting my parents at the time being.
I was wondering if we decided on prolonging the deadline or not

[The_Caveman]

Hey Marv, I'd say we delay the deadline till the end of june. since nobody really said they ddint want it and most of us seem to be okay seems fair to me to delay it till the end of june.

If anybody isn't okay just let it know on the forum otherwise I'd say new deadline june 30th

good luck everybody :D. no update from me today going through rigging to get everything into poses.

[m.ramdan]

power3d ..dude u know my opinion
one of ur best models so far

[m.ramdan]

The_Caveman : u r sick buddy ....hahahaha

[m.ramdan]

Siah : i like the mass specially the torso .grt work yo

[Siah]

Thanks m.ramdan. Workin hard on this one.

I've pretty much completed the sculpting on the orc. I keep tweaking, but i have to stop at some stage so I'm gonna call him finished for now. Moving onto other objects and textures.
Update images:
http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o449/josiahnathan/Screenshot_017Spin.jpg
http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o449/josiahnathan/Screenshot_018.jpg

[JLCG]

Nice thread, when is this finishing? Can I still join in?

Those 2 boars and most characters so far are kick ass!!!!

I want in :P

Jonny

[The_Caveman]

Sweet details Siah :D. looking forward to the textures!!

Hey JLCG, glad u like it, feel free to join in. the new deadline should be the last day of June :D should give u about three weeks A bit more. Looking forward to your work

Cheers
Jozef

[The_Caveman]

Nothing much :) still rigging, texturing and working on his beard right now :) lot of work left hehe but weekend has been rather busy

Cheers
Jozef

ps: if somebody has some good tutorials on quadruped rigging ;)

http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/ShamanTests.19.png

[Siah]

I haven't had alot of time to do work on this. Here's some normal map test renders.
I need to get on the texturing and other object modeling up to scratch.

Update:
http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o449/josiahnathan/Render_002-2.jpg
http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o449/josiahnathan/Render_003-2.jpg

[Siah]

Oh btw Love that beard dude haha. What's with the texture on his chest/neck?

[JLCG]

This is getting really interesting, I'll start a sculpting later on today see what Idea I can come up. Quick question, does it need a scenary or can it be on a simple pedestal?

Keep up the crazy work dudes!
Peace
Jonny

[m.shaheen]

Nice work Guys.
The_Caveman, power3d el basha, Siah Keeep it going Guys,,, Great Work.

Some Mudbox work guys, Hands+foot still not ready.

face texture is ready,,, but still needs alot of work to do.
textures will follow tomm or after tomm "Depends" :)

http://i407.photobucket.com/albums/pp157/shaheen118/closeface-mud.jpg

http://i407.photobucket.com/albums/pp157/shaheen118/front-mud.jpg

http://i407.photobucket.com/albums/pp157/shaheen118/back-mud.jpg

[The_Caveman]

Nice updates everyone :D. Keep it going!! we got a couple of more weeks

@JLCG, I think it will be a pedestal for most of us :). think it will be better rather trying to squeeze in an environment as well ^^ could maybe be a project for the month of july though ;)

Lol Siah, yeah euhm I didnt really paint the body texture yet so just unwrapped it and applied the head texture hehe clean it up and made a simple texture for it now, needs a lot of tweaking and actual painting :).

I worked on the beard mainly today. want it to look thick and greasy let me know what u think :)

Cheers
Jozef

http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/ShamanTests.20.png

[m.ramdan]

The_Caveman : hey dude very nice update so far
Don't get in love with dirt skin... :)
,(expect the lips) I don't fell the spec. at all (I know that u didn't fin. Ur main color map) but I guess u could test the spec cuz it's very important as JESSY always telling us at the ANTLAB in vfs ha-ha

anyways, I'm not sure which way u use to paint ur maps, but if u going to the old fashion way by painting it in ps , I would say y don't u go and try to poly paint it in zbrush and also if u need help , let me know and I will do my best

[m.ramdan]

Siah : wt an awesome studio li8ing render u got there ..! very nice dude
also nice normal map ..keep rocking yo

[m.shaheen]

Texturing test with "Mud2009" - Projection Paint.
Ambient Occlusion Filter is "ON".
http://i407.photobucket.com/albums/pp157/shaheen118/projectionwithMUD2009.jpg

[The_Caveman]

Thanks Mohammed. I mixed both actually poly paint and normal photoshop paint. the issue I m having with polypaint is that you cant go back to your layers and adjust them later on :( so use it for small details etc but not too much.
You were right about the spec hehe. I kinda killed it when I increased the bump map lol this looks better I think

looks like a good start m.shaheen. The scratch just looks a bit to clean right now but guess you just started so I am curious to see the rest. Keep it going

Cheers
Jozef

http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/ShamanTests.23.png

[m.ramdan]

The_Caveman : I agree with u dude, every one I guess facing this issue in zbrush

But form that start I guess u should paint the over all as long as the head attached to the body right?!! But u seems get happy and u want to test with ur cool amazing skin shader

And the sec. way to get away from this problem is: to use bodypaint3d , it's such an awesome package

But anyways...i guess u know all wt am sayin, so good luck buddy

[Crispy4004]

I've found polypaint can give kinda pixolated results too. Maybe if I had enough ram to divide one more time it would make the difference, but for now I've just been creating a large canvas and using the good ol' projection master.

Caveman - Any plans to add some FG, hdri, and reflectivity if you haven't already? I'd really help add some variety to the highlights on your model, which will also help show off the bump. Also you should look into using a surface sampler to simulate a peach fuzz effect. Yeah, I know he doesn't have peach fuzz, but the effect really helps sell the waxiness of the skin. Don't know how to do it in XSI though.

[The_Caveman]

Thanks guys for those tips :D.
Not sure my skinshader is that cool though hehe still hoping to someday reach the photoreel effect you manage to get Mohammed :).
I'll look for bodypaint ^^. Heard of it but never played with it. But yeah I'll be using polypaint again to get rid of that horrible seam around his neck

Thanks Crispy4004. Yep found that out too that some maps get pretty pixaleted when using polypaint or that the pickup process messes with th textures and where they should be on the map. Right now I am not using any HDRI or FG, there is a reflection map (Which happens to be an hdri and is in the environment slot of the render pass) but I'll try those two out.
Looks like that peach fuzz can be made in maya thanks to a sampler node and a ramp plugged into the ambient color of the skinshader (if I follow what Max Wahyudi says on his making off) so to have that in XSI I should be using an incidence node together with a gradient and plug it into the ambiant color. fiddling around with that one right now :) will keep you posted. Its true that I never looked into the peach fuzz effect hehe :$ my bad

thanks for the tips again. updates later today
Cheers
Jozef

[The_Caveman]

as promised updates ^^
redid the skinshader and got a bit more of the peach fuzz I think workingin this one. still messing around with some setting but I hope looks more realistic and brings out the bump a bit better still some detailing needed but I like the rubber feel I got going on the lips

Cheers
Jozef

http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/ShamanTests26.jpg
http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/ShamanTests27.jpg

[JLCG]

The_Caveman: Nice update :) Now I think the eyes are not realistic enough in terms of reflection so its really contrasting with the realism of the skin. Just my 2 cents :P

I'm working on my basemesh for my sculpting, I'll have some images to show once I have something worth showing :P

Peace and keep up the kick ass work ;)
Jonny

[Siah]

Hey Caveman, that looks RAD! Fav update so far. Wasn't sure about the beard.. looked a little too clean for someone so dirty.
I've just had a whole load of work dumped on me. I'm not sure when my next updates are gonna come.
Looking great though everyone.
Cheers,

Siah.

[The_Caveman]

Thanks JLCG, looking forward to your work mate!! :).
I tried to fiddle with the eye reflection today I might increase the bump a bit more to break it up some more and give it a more wet look.

Thanks Siah, good luck with the load of work I hope you'll have the time to work on it some more

here is an update from me. added in some tiny hairs, gonna start texturing his body now (which would be about time hehe)
Cheers
Jozef

http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/ShamanTests.29.png

http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/ShamanTests.28.png

[JLCG]

The_Caveman, may i suggest the use of HDRI reflection in just the eyes? That could add a lot of realism to your eyes, herm, I mean your orc eyes :P

Update will come soon, maybe not today though.

Keep it up :)
Jonny

[The_Caveman]

Thanks JLCG, there is an HDRI in there already (but for the whole pass I think) will try and plug it into the eye material as well and just have two hdri's. might be that my HDRI sucks lol ^^

update on the rest of the body well the hand. texturing, zbrushing, texturing etc :) still some details needed on the fingers I think and some veines in the hand

Cheers
Jozef

http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/ShamanTests.30.png

[The_Caveman]

one more.

Cheers
Jozef

http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/ShamanTests.35.png

[The_Caveman]

Quiet in here. where is everybody? :D

started laying down some basic textures on his clothing. still need to model the dress though :)
Cheers
jozef

http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/ShamanTests.38.png

http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/ShamanTests.39.png

[The_Caveman]

more more more :)

http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/ShamanTests.40.png

http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/ShamanTests.41.png

[power3d]

great work caveman :) ..

[The_Caveman]

Thanks power3d :)

one more for today.

Wanted to see how it all looked together so far. it definitly needs euhm poses and lighting and texturing and some more modeling hehe.
Yep he has "Wings" now.
It is not his wings though. When I looked for Shamans and witch doctors etc in general they had some sort of animal on their heads. Wolf, lions etc but I didnt wanted to go for something on his head and wanted a bit more of a fantasy creature so ended up with the dragon and his wings. then found some awesome concept work which I am working on now and try and get integrated into the wings. so right now there is about 30 mins of work on the wings. they will be held together by chains and ropes attached to the shaman's back.
More to come

Cheers
JOzef

http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/FullModel.1.png

[Siah]

Caveman... DUDE! That looks righteous!
Nice stuff. I'm really hoping ill find a couple of hours to jump aboard again, but its seriously not looking good, and you're so far ahead of everyone now I'm not sure there'd be much point in coming back haha.

[Siah]

This is where I'm at.
Not much further than i was before... Started texturing. I haven't started modeling weapons or anything.
I'm also trying to find a good pose...
http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o449/josiahnathan/Screenshot_020_Posed.jpg
http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o449/josiahnathan/Screenshot_021_Posed.jpg

[The_Caveman]

Glad you are still around Siah, loving the pose!!

I'd say drop the competition? dont think we really need a winner or something just keep the thread going as long as there is updates till everybody is done and we can have an army of orcs? but that decision isn't up to me though ^^

here is an update. didnt had anything to do today :$ so started working on the staff and took back the dragon idea. about 4h of work so far from scratch/ base mesh in xsi, about an hour of sculpting now

http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/orcStaff.jpg

[The_Caveman]

here is a little update on the staff :)

cheers
Jozef

http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/orcStaff02.jpg

[Siah]

The_Caveman, your staff looks great.
I can't believe this thread has slipped onto the second page. I promise i will get back in and start posting some stuff ASAP. I really wanna get this orc piece finished. So lets do it. Everyone who's posted so far, pump out another update and lets all finish this.

[The_Caveman]

Thanks Siah, I'm still around but decided to make my project a tiny bit bigger lol ^^ since I want to learn more about rigging, and more about maya and creature stuff (rigging, muscle sim etc) I launched myself in picking back up Maya which is taking longer then expected ^^ but I m still here hehe :D. I ll put an update this evening with some environment stuff I have been working on :)

Cheers
Jozef

[The_Caveman]

Update :)

this is after picking back up Maya after having not touched it for a long while ^^. still pretty damn rusty and using XSI shortcuts all over the place but this is what I got.
Part of the great rockwall this will be embedded into (sorry not really organic anymore)

http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/Environment_Maya01.jpg

[The_Caveman]

getting the boars ready for rigging. tweaked the textures, adapted the displacement maps etc :) still working on the head not quite happy yet

http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/BoarNew.1_.jpg

[JLCG]

Hey all, this is getting pretty crazy :) I decided not to joint finally, due to lack of time, instead, I restarted a Minotaur I designed a while back, its in the wip forum ;)

Peace guys and keep up the amazing work!
Jonny

[Tank[NL]]

looking good caveman. you might want to break up the symmetry on the pig. maybe a broken tusk or something. liking the scene so far. very LOTR-ish.

[power3d]

guys ?? isnt that the last day :( ??

wht u'll all do ??

[Siah]

I dunno what everyone else is doing, but unless someone is planning on closing this thread down I'm gonna continue work on mine next week. Hopefully we can run with Caveman's idea and just keep going till we're finished. I would kinda like to have something for my portfolio so I really wanna finish. What does everyone else say?

[The_Caveman]

Agree with you Siah. I'd say we drop the competition idea since everybody is very busy and some have abandoned I have the idea lol so maybe just keep the thread going and make it some sort of resource thread or something :)

[Tank[NL]]

in that case... i might post my orc here :P

he be low poly, but that way i might actually finish the green b*stard :)

[The_Caveman]

Definitly do Tank[NL]!! looking forward to it :D

and thanks for the comment a page back about the pig :D. will rework those tusks and symmetry issues

[The_Caveman]

So I'm done rigging the boars. A rather simple maya quadruped rig. Pretty boring to show I guess :D. but allowed me to rework my rigging and pick back up maya.

Once done with the rig I realised that well I didnt like the boars that much anymore. something was bugging me. First thought it was the lack in detail of the texture, so restarted the texture till I realised I didnt really like the sculpt. the boar looked dull, no feeling nothing so restarted the sculpt today well this afternoon and this is what I got after about 1h30 of work.

Still figuring out some details for the nose. Any ideas more then welcome :D

Made a list of models I would like to complete for this project which is kinda turning into my new demo reel ^^. So I'll keep on posting stuff in here for a while I guess and look forward to everybody else's models and ideas

cheers
Jozef

http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/newBoar.jpg

[The_Caveman]

some more sculpting :)
beefed him up quite a bit ^^

http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/newBoar01.jpg
http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/newBoar02.jpg

[The_Caveman]

Quiet in here ^^ where is everybody?

After the hyper ribbed boar I toned it all down a bit and added some more details.
The second image is the boar back in maya with just a simple skinshader applied. no textures yet.

Cheers
Jozef


http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/newBoar07.jpg
http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/newBoar06.jpg

[m.shaheen]

Hi guys, long time no post from me, but here is what i got in some free time.

http://i407.photobucket.com/albums/pp157/shaheen118/ORC-cloth.jpg

[Creator]

Nice. When i look at his cloth i only can think of........ Y M C A lalalalaa ^^

[The_Caveman]

good to see ur still around m.shaheen :D keep the updates coming.

my new attempt at texturing the boars. Dont like the head just yet. needs a lot of work and need to rework my specs ^^

Cheers
Jozef
http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/newBoar08.png

[ERTRL]

Hello, everyone

this is my first post here and little attempt. Hope you like it.

[The_Caveman]

Welcome to the forums ERTRL and glad you joined us :D, looks promessing looking forward to the updates ^^

here my progress on the boars new textures.
for the HD version click this link: HD VERSION (http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/newBoar12.png)

and the less HD one
http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/newBoar12.jpg

I'd suggest looking at the HD one though, it still needs some fixes but was testing how my textures held up at HD quality :)
Enjoy

Jozef

[ERTRL]

Thank you The_Caveman (: I can't wait to see your finished work.Your chariot looks awesome.

[m.ramdan]

The_Caveman :- dude u get crazy about texture , nice work buddy , cant wi8 for the finals

[The_Caveman]

Thanks Mohamed!! pity you aint posting updates on ur orc ;)

to put some more "how I did it" in this thread I thought I thought I'd post a screengrab of the skin texture. Its the composite of the three layers for the skinshader to get something close to the final result.
Put each section of the shader in a folder in photoshop and put the blend mode to screen (using the screencomposite) otherwise put it to multiply. Found this out recently only when reading more on how the skinshader works. thought it might be usefull for others when painting the skinshader.

enough talks here is the texture
Cheers
Jozef

http://portfolio.caveman-digital.com/dfg/resources/images/original/TextureBoar.jpg

[m.ramdan]

very nicely done bro , tell me , did u get over the seems by poly painting in zb?

[Siah]

Caveman... wow man, just floggin along aren't we.
Good start ERTRL
Sorry i've fallen behind.
I've given my guy a different pose
http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o449/josiahnathan/Screenshot_022_Posed.jpg

[Siah]

I gave him an axe. Gotta work on textures and the rest soon.
http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o449/josiahnathan/Screenshot_023_PosedAxe.jpg

[m.ramdan]

Siah : woo , interesting pose man , very good (fingers need more tweaking i guess )

[The_Caveman]

Sorry guys for being silent last couple of days. quite some things changing during the next two weeks.

Siah awesome updates man!! can't wait for the detailed axe :D. as for the flogging away u should see the list I got pinned to the wall :p.

Thanks Mohammed, Nope no polypaint used and not 100% sure all seams are gone. I'm planning on doing a turn table one of these days and will double check then ^^. but most seams (except for the neck one) are underneath his belly and fixed them there as best as I could :)

Cheers
Jozef

[The_Caveman]

Hey where did everybody go? :p

I'm moving so had to slow down on 3d for a couple of days. moving should be done tomorrow and I should be back with some updates. been doing some concept work for the whole project that I have in mind. might just post them during the weekend as well :)

Cheers
Jozef

ps: anybody has any updates? :D

[Siah]

Sorry Caveman, been hecktick for me too. I've got a whole bunch of assessments piled up. I don't know when I'm gonna get a chance to continue... It's really crappy.
Press on though dude, I will join back in when i get a break from everything else.
Cheers.