Darbruce - Gender Bender - Rorschach(ella)

[Darbruce]

Here. We. Go.

I decided after long moments considering possibilities, since i have the extra geometry, that I may be able to pull off more with Rorschach since I don't need as much for facial detail.

Concepts later.

[poopipe]

good call :D

I considered him but I want to do hair this time

[BiG ToE-3DT]

will she be wearing a see threw outfit?

[Darbruce]

I'm in the process of doing a few different outfit designs, idk about anything sheer, but there could be a low-cut suit vest in the mix, we shall see.

PS - you crack me up ToE.

[dhin]

I think we need to report ToE for spamming... ;)

Remember that Rorschach was a 'religious' fanatic, so the outfit will need to fairly conservative, and not show off too much. He had a problems with Night-owl and Silk Specter's affair and the general moral decline of the world. I could see him as a woman in a nice pantsuit with a long over coat easy, but nothing revealing.

[BiG ToE-3DT]

you caught me dhin, but to be honest, I want to see someone do a see threw outfit. Guess I'll have to do it.

[dhin]

There is JC from Danger Girls. She wears a fishnet like top...

[Darbruce]

good call dhin, you actually caught me right when i did. tight sweater it is. haha

[Darbruce]

quick concepts, playing around with the overall structure. deciding on the style of hat and trench. keepin' it a truckin'.

http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs46/f/2009/197/7/4/Rorschachella_concept_sketches_by_phoenix_eulogy.j pg

[VinsanityV20]

Nice work my friend so far, my friend. Great sketches, nice pose. Lookin' good

[dhin]

I might drop the hat, and go with a half mask like Spider-woman wears, and make the coat more feminine.

[dark_maggot]

hehe how did i not think about this...

Can't Wait to see the end result.

Cheers.

[hulahuga]

Cool choice!
I'll stick to this one :)

[chris_solo]

nice concept man!

[MattColes]

I'm liking the bottom left sketch the best so far. Nice choice! and good luck :D

[Darbruce]

head concepts mix-and-match, I'm preferring the whole mask to the partials, but what say you guys overall? does she need hair? partial mask? or just a kickass hat?

http://fc09.deviantart.com/fs47/f/2009/202/4/c/Rorschachella_Concept_Page_1_by_phoenix_eulogy.png

[ianchaos]

If you go with no hair and full mask I'd go with hat#1. It has the most attitude with just the right feminine touch.

Otherwise My prefs - in order
Mask # 1
Hair # 3
Hat # 5

As far as color goes I like the colors in Hat # 1 pict

[dhin]

I say mask 2; no hair; hat 1

[frango]

I say mask 2; no hair; hat 1

Yup, me too.

[VinsanityV20]

Whatever you do, you keep the Darby hat (bottomest left) far away from her. Only Habber McDasher (or whatever you called him) could pull that off, old friend;)

Other than that, full mask + hat is the way to go. Though I still think she'd have a ponytail or something pulled out behind her head. Unless she's bald*, she's gotta put her hair somewhere - I guess it could be in the hat, whichever one you end up going with, but whatever. A ponytail wouldn't obstruct the mask or hat at all, yet add a feminine touch to her silhouette regardless.

* - bald chicks are gross. Yea, I said it - so what? You wanna fight about it?

P.S. You should put that game up on your site or something, and link it so people can enjoy your madness-inducing games:D

[BiG ToE-3DT]

may go full mask with a super duper sunday's best church hat and a pony tail down the back.

[ryvick]

no hair, no hat just mask#3. AWESOMENESS

[Darbruce]

got the head model sheet done, and started on the overall trenchcoat. haven't decided on whether to include the hat (#1 wins) or not, and I'm having a bit of an artistic dilemma with the mask, I feel that cutting into Rorschach's "face" would undermine the essence of the character, but mask 3 is so tempting...

[frango]

got the head model sheet done, and started on the overall trenchcoat. haven't decided on whether to include the hat (#1 wins) or not, and I'm having a bit of an artistic dilemma with the mask, I feel that cutting into Rorschach's "face" would undermine the essence of the character, but mask 3 is so tempting...

Yeah...There's something sexy in showing only her nose and lips, but it's the patterns in the mask that should express the characters emotions. Tough call. :hurt:

[yoyomon]

Hmmm... I gotta say 2, none, and one in order of category.

[Darbruce]

3 trench coats, rough color schemes, and the two heads which i'm torn between, gotta have pinstripes says I.

http://fc08.deviantart.com/fs49/f/2009/202/6/a/Rorschachella_Concept_Page_2_by_phoenix_eulogy.png

ps: sorry about the width of this one.

[dhin]

I like the 3rd one best, but the masks really are a hard call.

[guhhh]

i like the 2nd !

[BiG ToE-3DT]

I'm feeling that last one as well.

[Darbruce]

I think I'm keeping the hat and full mask.

and the last jacket is winning, so that's most likely the one I'll go with. Time to model sheet up and get down to the real business.

[Novian]

I would suggest, if its not too late; try a ski-mask type setup. Do the full mask but a cutout area around the lips. Would bring out the fem but keep the majority of the mask's structure and fullness. Also the swirling patterns next to the soft lips would be plesantly creepy.

Just my two cents.

Cheers~

[goast666]

I'm going to have to disagree with you on that Novian. Well, not totally. I think that it would look sexy as well, but I think it will retract too much from who Rorschach is. He's not hiding his face so much as freaking people out. When you can't see any structural guidelines to his face you are totally enveloped in the mask and what it does. If there were lips there everyone would see...well...a chick with a mask covering her eyes and nose rather than an ink blot test. Just my 2cents

[BiG ToE-3DT]

just saw the movie last night, so all I have to say is:

I'm not locked up in here with you, your locked in here with me.

[Darbruce]

I concur with ghost, the mask is his face, and any incursion into its structure undermines the character. Good thought though, Nov.

@ToE - Best. Movie. Quote. Ever.

[goast666]

Sorry to harp on your thread, but did they release all the extra footage that they took out of the theatrical version??

[yoyomon]

just saw the movie last night, so all I have to say is:

I'm not locked up in here with you, your locked in here with me.

Does that mean we'll never hear the end of see through outfits?

Good choice with no. 3. Best contrast of the group.

[BiG ToE-3DT]

as far as that movie is concerned, Dr Manhattan, needed to put some damn clothes on.

[Darbruce]

as for the extra footage, ghost, I don't know about the director's cut of the film, I'd have to ask my ex-roomie, he just got it on blu-ray. but i don't think it was on the regular release.

[goast666]

BAH!!! I just watched bruno with my fiancee...sweet zombie jesus...more man cock than I wanted to see tonight.

[dhin]

Doc M needs clothes... Extra Footage on the Director's cut... Bruno!!! My innerchild is rocking in a barren corner of my psyche with his hands over his ears humming loudly atm.

OHKAY! nuf of that. As far as the director's release of Watchmen goes (i have seen it yet,) I know one of the releases is supposed to include the Black Frigate as a cartoon cut into the actual story they way it was in the actual comic. I'm not sure if it is a special edition where they did that or director's cut.

[Buzzy]

* - bald chicks are gross. Yea, I said it - so what? You wanna fight about it?

I think that entirely depends on the girl.

[goast666]

I agree with Buzzy on this this one. Granted...britney spears is rather gross with or without hair...so yeah.

[Darbruce]

Natalie would be hot even if she was scalded with cooking grease and then was in a tragic motorcycling accident on the way to the hospital. But I still concur with Buzzy.

Also, I leave for a week-long vacation tomorrow, so I prolly wont have any progress for a while. Keep a lookout for some on the 3rd or 4th.

[SnappedStrings]

Hope it's not too late to get my two cents in! Atleast maybe you can draw a wee bit of inspiration from my thoughts

I'd say full mask without a doubt. While the half mask allows you to add a bit more femininity, it also draws away from the character and the real sense of who Rorschach is. So I feel like the full mask is almost necessary to hold onto the connection

For color scheme, I think that the second one was the closest in terms of color, but I think a little more exploration would be beneficial. Maybe try some earth tones? get a little more brown in there perhaps?


And, back to bald girls, without hair Britney Spears looks like Agent 47

Haha, great concepts!

[Darbruce]

I'll most likely revisit color schemes after the base mesh is completed. Definitely needs more work. Since Rorschach is mostly earth tones and darker colors himself, I was thinking along the lines of pastels and richer dark colors for a more feminine pizazz. Thanks for the input, though, I'll keep it in mind.

[VinsanityV20]

Yo, where you at, son? You haven't been on AIM in a week...

[mel_danes]

I think that entirely depends on the girl.

Ok, disturbing. I just now realized that Britney is the Kurgan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFfVaDFjeAM) from Highlander.

[Darbruce]

@ Vince - dude, did you read the 3 posts before yours?

anyway, I'm back now, expect a model sheet soon.

[Darbruce]

http://fc07.deviantart.com/fs46/f/2009/215/8/f/Rorschachella_Model_Sheet_01_by_phoenix_eulogy.jpg

HOLY MODEL SHEET!! rough one, haven't gotten settled yet, but I soon will be.

[VinsanityV20]

@ Vince - dude, did you read the 3 posts before yours?

anyway, I'm back now, expect a model sheet soon.

Nope - I ignore anything with bald chicks around it. I stand by what I said:D Good to have ya back - hope your vacation was a good one.