gegrazion _Gender Bender_GOW

[gegrazion]

well ive decided to do Kratos from God of War and heres my first sketch. im likin some parts of it i jsut dont think it captures her personality much, i now its just a sketch and it will show thorugh on the model but i just tink shes wearing too much, i want it very simple and keeping it as close to the original design as pos. hope you like it :)

[Fenixy]

she looks cool, love how you did hair style. Only crit i have is that piece of cloth on her chest,it make me think of some house working woman, mabye some leather\metal armor that cover her boobs just a bit, wuld fit beter Kratos image :dance: ( and as far as i remember Kratos have some gold armor)
good start, keep it up

[gegrazion]

well just a head shot, i think im going to make her young but more gritty looking (blood etc). shes blind in 1 eye btw looks a bit crappy lol but its just a sketch. i quite like her without hair but well see how it develops no doubt itl go through alot of changes.

Fenixy = yh he does have some gold armor (i av put some in there but aint done his legs yet) and i agree with the top, going to make something more simple and showing more flesh. thanks alot :)

[gegrazion]

quick collage of the things im usign as ref. i love christina hair, if i do hair i think thats what ill be going for. the girls face just looks beautiful and thats kinda how i wnt my character to look, really hot but a complete headcase. thats kratos btw the character im doing just thoght id post him not sure if many people have played the game yasee :)

[chris_solo]

great concept!

[H2olt]

Nice concept. I was thinking of doing kratos too, but I've never had a lot of attachment to the game, and had no good ideas for making him female, but you're definately on to something.

Definitely give her hair rather than going bald. It's too much of an opportunity to ad character to pass up. Your first concept has the head tattoo going around the hair, I'd just have the tattoo going up into the hair. Also those fashion mohawks look like great reference, just regular it up a bit. she's supposed to be god of war not god of fashion.

One of kratos's more major features (since he's topless) is that big tattoo that winds down onto his chest. Make sure to take some time and try different designs of the tattoo winding down onto the chest. Just so that it's more than just a shoulder thing.

Nice work so far keep it up. take your time with the concepts. I'm looking forward to seeing more.

[gegrazion]

H2olt = thanks very much for your input i definatly think im going for the mohawk look. im definatly going to do a few more concepts but first im modeling her head just to get a feel for the character more :) updates shortly

[ryvick]

i would loose the rag bra, would make toe happy.
i had the golden axe girl to match more of kratos looks.
have a look and see :
http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/707/707342/golden-axe-20060611094546029.jpg

[goast666]

would

[Agent-X]

Very nice. I am looking forward to seeing this one.

[dark_maggot]

Nice concept looks really cool, can't wait to see it in 3d.

Cheers.

[lampshadehead]

Great idea. Love the hair in the first sketch. Definately makes her look hard core! Rock this one dude!

[SR_6274]

Very cool indeed. Great concept.

[gegrazion]

thanks alot guys :) heres the head so far. small paintover thinking stretchers in her ears and a nose pericing. im fairly happy with how the heads come owt just trying to add more character to her. not sure on the scar tho, im trying something else but doesnt seem to look cool enough. hope you guys like it.

[gegrazion]

wel i just took a moment to try an idea of a scar, what you guys think? i realy want something that doesnt look realy thin, i want it to look like a big minotour has clawed her face. thanks again :)

[lampshadehead]

yeah, that looks pretty cool. with a few other small scars around the head it will seem to fit the face better.

[VinsanityV20]

I like the scar, and i would advise against piercings. Things like that tend to get torn off from their owner in the GoW universe:) It's unpleasant

The concept overall is great, though I personally think that certain areas could stand some bulking up. The chains wrapped around her forearms currently look really small and pretty weak - that's a no-no if they're to hold the Blades of Athena. Also, the boots could be thicker - Kratos' boots have some pretty detailed ornamentation on them. Those are just nitpicks - the cloth covering her breasts doesn't work though; it's just not Kratos. I know you wanna stick with the simple, original design of the new God of War, but may I suggest something?

Idea one: Take one of the items/armors that Kratos earns from one of the games (I can't remember from which one) and extend it to form a breast plate:
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q164/vinsanityv20/116984570305290300.jpg

Idea two: look at some of the original concepts for Kratos and riff off of one of those. I like this one with leather armor and torn red sleeves:
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q164/vinsanityv20/Kratos-CoolArmorKratos.jpg

Just suggestions. I was mulling over doing Kratos, so I can't wait to see how this one turns out - it's already started out very good:) That head is looking tops, bro.

[gegrazion]

lampshadehead - thnkas alot :) i think im going to make it a healed scar so itll need to protrude instead.

vansanity - wel i c uve played GOW lol i do see your point totaly but i am making alot of changes to her without doin another concept since i no what i want needs to be changed. the chains defo need to be thicker and your right about the feet i just coudnt be bothered to draw the rest fo the armor lol lazy i no :)where did u find the more original concepts of kratos? thanks again :)

[gegrazion]

hey guys ive got a problem, im not sure what happened exactly but now i cnt see my model. its something to do with the materials but everything ive tried aint working :( any sujestions? thanks

[gegrazion]

just a small update, just getin the proportions in, i really like the idea vinsantiy gave of the chest plate bra thing lol. in going to make a madusa head also which im going to get some refernce for now :)

[gegrazion]

wel heres medusa head, im thinking of having the spine and soe viens hanging from her neck. hope you like it :)

[gegrazion]

20minute sketch so far tink it mite be the last update for the nite :)

[Oniram]

nice sketch. what you could actually do is make Athena's Aegis. it has been interpreted sometimes as a breastplate, but it was used by Perseus to reflect medusa's reflection, and her face was transfixed (if thats the word) onto the center of the breastplate (or shield, as some interpretations of the myth tell).

[gegrazion]

hey wel heres where i got with medusa head, stil doesnt have the hair yet but that will come tommorow, i think im happy with the overal form and detail. hope u like it :)

[goast666]

She sure wasn't a pretty lady was she :P

She's missing her tear duct

[guhhh]

nice sculpt so far...

[gegrazion]

hey guys just got bk from work going to do more on her today, now looking at it i hate her expression, instead of it looking like shes attackin im just going to make it look like shes dead and her heads bin severed to scare others away. stay tuned updates shortly :)

[goast666]

It has been an hour...I DEMAND AN UPDATE. It's in all caps so you know it's loud :P

[gegrazion]

hey wel heres the update. i went owt for a takeaway earlier so dats y its taken so long :) happy with it so far really need to start the tentacles soon. any crits are welcome :)

[goast666]

looking good. I like the tear much better now. I think 1 eye should be all droopy.
What is a takeaway?

[gegrazion]

haha wel what im actualy doing is making 1 eye droopy and changing the shape of the mouth but im going to do that in the low poly model otherwise ill have to model both sides of the model and give it twice the amount of texture space so doing it this way will benifit massivly :) thanks alot tho :)

[H2olt]

It's looking good, but I'm not sure it's as important to see updates of the medusa head at this point as it is to see the proportions and what not of your figure.

[gegrazion]

true but ive done a qiuck paintover so u can see how its rufly coming along. im also happy with the ruf proportions of her, but i prefer workin on small to big rather than the other way around :) ive neva made anything in 3d b4 properly so dont wna set my task 2 high like :)

[DaddyDoom]

medusa looking freakin' hot.
Keep up :D

[mel_danes]

What is a takeaway?

You silly git!:crazy: It's British, for take out food.

The head sculpt is looking sick, in a good way.

[gegrazion]

haha i forgot to answer that lol, prety disapointing tho had a pizza which was nice but garlic bread was just dough wit garlic herbs and it was burnt lol. wel just got bk home so going to finish her of tonite done realy want to spend anymore time on her than i have to :)

[goast666]

Ah. I figured as much. It actually makes more sense than takeout out food. I'm taking the meal away with me, hence takeaway meal. Though I suppose take out works too. I mean, I am taking the food out of the store...so eh. Either works.

If it makes you feel any better I had some "takeaway" :P the other night as well. Some chicago style stuff crusted pizza. I'd never been to the place before so I asked what was good and they said they make a killer spinach, garlic and some other stuff pizza, so I said give me one. $18 and a horrible pizza later...Anyway, I had a piece. Gotta remember spinach isn't good on pizza!!

Enough about food, get to work!

[gegrazion]

swi aint posted anything i didnt do any owrk last night i had other things to attend to. so im devoting my whole day to the cause lol stay tuned :p

[Quintonius]

Wow bro i'ts looking really good so far, keep it up. I'm even more excited now after seeing your wip.

[VinsanityV20]

Cool! Glad you found some of my comments useful; I have no idea where I got the pic btw:) That Kratos concept just popped up when I googled him, though I've seen it before. I know it's in the bonus features for the first game, but I seem to find any other concepts on google anymore:)

Those proportions - the ones in blue - look a lot better than what was shown before. Can't wait to see more - you're definitely going in the right direction!

[gegrazion]

thnkas, i been very busy for few days so not doen alot and im goin on oliday on thursday for like 2 week :( not sure i got time to finish it. ill spend next 2 days doin as much as pos and hopfully itl be enuf :)

[gegrazion]

hey guys i finally got bk from holiday yest so im headed bk up to bradford today from london so i can start crackin on with the comp again :) i feel like im getin withdraw symptoms i swear.

[gegrazion]

hey just an update on the head. i just needed to really give her face more personality without giving her an expression. the eyebrows are just so she doesnt look an idiot and i will get round to doing her ears i just hate ears lol and there not as important as the rest of her :) hope you like it and mre updates later.

[gegrazion]

well i did a propa paint over. i no some of the details are a bit fuzzy but im going to now gather some reference for the necesary details. what you guys think bout it? any sujections on colour palete please help i just kinda rushed that part. any c and c would be a great help :)

[newhere]

This is shaping up nicely.

[chris_solo]

yep agree with newhere!

[mies]

youre really inspiring me to do a propper concept next contest :) i love what ur making. my only comment would be that the amount of details on the chest is pretty high and the face seems plain. thats just my first thought. but i cant find anything i dont like on it ^^ great work keep it up!

[gegrazion]

mies : thanks alot words like that really make me want to do more as for the concept it was just to get a feel for the rough proportions and placment of everything, sort of finalise all the things i wasnt sure about cos without a concept i tend to spend alot of time thinkin what to do next.

[gegrazion]

well i am stil modeling and i have bought 80% done now :) might be finshed by end of tomoz but i do have a problem. i want to render my model in unreal but i have never used it b4, any1 got any links to soem hot tuts? be much apreciated thanks :)

[dark_maggot]

http://www.veoh.com/search/videos/q/publisher:cannedmushrooms#watch%3Dv1453957jWgrkhW6

There you go, hope that helps.

Cheers.

[gegrazion]

omg go check this out and the rest of his vids there amazing :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryH1TB4gEUY

[VinsanityV20]

Eh, I've seen that Dead Fantasy thing before - Gametrailers hosts that guys' stuff. I'm not going to lie - it's an impressive project for one guy - but the animation tends to deteriorate a bit here and there. Nothing ever gets horrible, just...janky. Occasionally. Plus, I'd like it if he used original models instead of just game rips...which is what I THINK he does. For at least some of 'em - some of 'em look original. Still, a cool concept and they're pretty damn epic - I'll give him that:)

Anyway, the paintover you did for your character looks sweet - if you can nail that, this is going to be a GREAT model man. Wish you the best!

[gegrazion]

he makes allll the models and creates the whole thing by himself, prety epic. thanks alot mate ive built some of the props. im just not sure on what heels to use and what patern work i want on the metal. i just dont no what to type in google to get good refercne of designs for metal any ideas? im going to change a few bits around tho.

[gegrazion]

well heres an update on my highpoly. ive finshed the high poly now, i wish i had more time i would love to take my model further, i have made the skirt, belt, chains and some other armor but aint shownin it cos its on a seperate doc. heres some closups of the hand, i no it want show up in the low poly but it was mainly to test my ability also. i will be adding another pass of detail but in photoshop, hope you like it. guna get cracking with the low poly tommorrow, might not finish but its been such a fun experience and ive defiantly learnt alot :)

[Agent-X]

I like it, but the neck needs to be a little bit longer. The height of the neck should match the width of the palm of the hand. So another wards if she was to grab her neck with her hand, it should take up all of the space from the bottom of the neck to the bottom of her jaw. I do think the feet could be a little smaller as well. I recommend pluging in some spheres for eye balls so you can sculpt the eyelids around the eyes. Other than that, it looks pretty damn good so far. keep up the great work.

[Quintonius]

Wow not bad bro, it's really coming along. You did a really nice job on the hands, keep it up.

[gegrazion]

i did sculpt the eyelinds round an eye just delted them cos dont need them for the high poly. thanks alot guys and more updates tommorow :)