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hulahuga
21-12-2010, 07:45 PM
You might be talking about the dog in my friend's place (where I am right now) that dog barks like cerberus, though it is the only one who think sit has the same astounding power... XD
But still the fingers look a bit short ;P check photoref or it might jsut be my hands...
Kitana
22-12-2010, 08:13 AM
I think with time you will build an unique style. Just work on it. I liked a lot the ghost in the hand but you really must work on the hand.
The piggy creature is funny too :D Sweet mutant :D
Keep it up :)
washka
23-12-2010, 07:08 PM
Yes Hula, they're a bit too short, I can see it now.
If I make a 90° angle between my palm and my index, they're the two side of a square, they're same length. But here the index is fold, so it's a bit shorter.
I'll make a 105% scale up and correct this, but it's tiny.
I prefer dogs that bark for a good reason (like guardian dogs), than those who bark all da time for nothing, they're noisy and just got bad education.
Same like people. xD
Thanks a lot for your kind comment Kitana, I'll mork more onto this ghost one in the future, I'll make some more serious work on it.
"Sweet"? Wasn't really my main objective here for da kity (title is ironical it's a bad kity), I was trying to make something aesthetic and kinda repulsive too, adding some death aspect.
So I missed something while I was doing it, that's funny.
I'm not as talented as you for da sweeties, but thanks. :)
My last ones, mostfully color works / labs:
The last dark angel is one of my old painting (2008), when I started.
Wanted to rework on it, 2 hours later you got the new one.
It shows a bit my progression but also the areas where I should work more. :D
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/1903/risew2010.jpg
hulahuga
23-12-2010, 07:49 PM
Make the large one in oils!!!! :)
washka
24-12-2010, 02:29 PM
I don't know oil techniques Hula, maybe I should learn somes.
Just some speedie today, nope it's not appleseed, it's just a bot:
aby arty
25-12-2010, 03:45 PM
nice designs washka.
and a very merry christmas to everyone.
washka
26-12-2010, 07:01 PM
Thanks aby arty, a merry christmas and an happy new year to you too!
washka
28-12-2010, 05:00 PM
Inspired by the myth of sisyphus, and the golem legend:
hulahuga
28-12-2010, 05:36 PM
That mouth is awesome!
washka
28-12-2010, 06:05 PM
Looks like Venom's
hulahuga
28-12-2010, 06:46 PM
Yeah, and a bit (with that head shape) it looks like some kind of gears of war beast (or whatever it was, I don't remember ;P)
Since the head is so wicked I do think that you should consider reworking the body :)
washka
28-12-2010, 07:38 PM
Yeah, I remember this gear of war's, there was also Bulgarov's.
You're right about the body but it's unfair: Is there anytime you aren't? :)
hulahuga
28-12-2010, 07:43 PM
:smug:
haha well I'm just saying... ;P
washka
30-12-2010, 05:33 PM
-Some chara design, trying to get out some keywords, remnant mood from DW warming.
-A WIP for my next conceptual, two heads/profile there.
-Last one: I miss summer holidays... (Winter and lot's of snow here)
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/5070/chararw2010.jpg
ltken84
03-01-2011, 01:57 AM
A nice start for DW warming Washka! I personally love Witch,Demon and Fate. Each of them has potential and can be push forward. Love 'em! KEEP IT UP! :lurve:
washka
03-01-2011, 05:34 PM
Thanks for feedback ltken84, I tried to get some different moods even if like usual I got some big armored guys/demons as result -_-.
I'll push them further in da future, I think I'll make some kind of character gallery when I've finished and detailed enough of them.
Here are some news, the first ones for year 2011, hope that you too have started well this new year.
I've been playing with mood and testing lightning today, there is some kind of ninja bird, a statue and some kind of aquatic creature/mermaid WIP (an old painting reworked).
Hope it'll be of some interest for you, C&C always appreciated, even negatives.
hulahuga
03-01-2011, 06:54 PM
Liking the mood of that first one! :)
Btw; Am I seeing this right? (edit: reworked it a bit)
washka
03-01-2011, 07:15 PM
Thanks for comment Hula, you got nice endyear holiday?
Yeah, shoulder, profiled face and a hand/claw.
The mood of da statue or of da ninja bird?
Red outline is a good idea. I think I'll make full body for this one.
hulahuga
03-01-2011, 07:24 PM
Mood of the statue.
Yeah sure! Nothing special really happened but it was nice :). We had a dinner at home with some relatives and fireworks outside.
But I did get (as a delayed Christmas gift) a new monster computer :smug:.
I have made the config myself and I will do the building as well but all the parts aren't here yet (will probably come tomorrow (should have been today). Can't wait to try it all out :D.
AMD 1090 t (which can be overclocked to 6*4 ghz XD)
Radeon 6950 (2 gb video ram an just a little firmware change and it will be as fast as the 6970 whilst being a bit cheaper (which both beat the **** out of the former 5870).
Crossfire 4 formula mobo
Kingston Hyper-x ram at 2000mhz
and a cooler master CM690 II
:D
washka
03-01-2011, 07:56 PM
Wow nice stuff.
I got a new mouse...:hurt:
hulahuga
03-01-2011, 08:00 PM
;P Well my comp is four years old so...
Which mouse did you get?
washka
03-01-2011, 08:39 PM
Mine is two years old, old monster too.
New mouse, it's just a simple optical one unbranded, but it'll be of great help for my work.
Next thing I need to change it's my old CRT screen, becoming old and start hurt my eyes, I'll get some new flat one.
If you overcloack your monster, care with temperature fan/voltage, don't burn it, those microchips cost a lot.
hulahuga
03-01-2011, 08:43 PM
You still work on one of those? :O Then you seriously need an upgrade :D
Yeah I will definitely take great care. Got a custom cooler and apparently the BIOS of these components works a treat :)
washka
04-01-2011, 05:59 PM
I'm a dinosaur.
And have been working a bit more onto my previous bot, and yes I know, he's got a big gun, and it's not over yet:
hulahuga
04-01-2011, 06:02 PM
haha, well I really like the bot design overall. Dig the boots :D But the bird sword looks a bit odd, doesn't really fit somehow. You might want to show the shoulder perspective a bit more as well so the viewer doesn't get too confused in the shapes in the image :)
washka
04-01-2011, 06:39 PM
Got this tendencie to confuse the viewer, I can make clean work but it's just I don't want to, and I'm too lazy for that.
It's a defect you can find in a lot of my paintings, but I also use it for creative purpose, so it's a kinda double edged sword.
About the sword/gun unfiting don't worry, bot and weapon will change and I'll try to make a better integration.
I'll also try to add more details everywhere (boots too, I'll dig more), and the shoulder will move a lot more, perspective there is not fixed yet.
Your feedback will help my work, thanks Hula.
setschaos
04-01-2011, 07:18 PM
Dear Washka:
<3
PS. I'm going to model your last posted work (as long as it's ok with you) Look for the thread!!!
PSS. <3
hulahuga
04-01-2011, 07:54 PM
Dear Washka:
<3
PS. I'm going to model your last posted work (as long as it's ok with you) Look for the thread!!!
PSS. <3
Nice message there XD
You could always edit the post with a link :)
washka - Yeah I thought so about your previous works as well and I totally agree with what you say. The main thing is to find that sweetspot where you make interesting abstract shapes while still keeping the viewer interested and in focus :)
washka
04-01-2011, 08:39 PM
You're talking about the last bot with da big gun?
If it's the case, no problem setschaos, it's ok for me.
But if I were you I would wait for next version (3) that will be a bit more fantasy and organical, I'll post it maybe tomorrow or next day.
If you seem serious enough, maybe I'll make some clear MDS to help you later. :) If it's just for practice, let just keep it cool.
I'll look for your thread, I hope you accept and use criticism comment man, because I can be even harder for comment than Dr. Hula. :evil:
If you've already understand this thing Hula, and if you continue on CG, you know one of the main important points, but don't worry and stay cool there is plenty of them, even if this one is some untemporal and essential alchemy.
The rest comes with hard work and practice, and those are far harder believe me.
hulahuga
05-01-2011, 11:15 AM
I'll look for your thread, I hope you accept and use criticism comment man, because I can be even harder for comment than Dr. Hula. :evil:
If you've already understand this thing Hula, and if you continue on CG, you know one of the main important points, but don't worry and stay cool there is plenty of them, even if this one is some untemporal and essential alchemy.
The rest comes with hard work and practice, and those are far harder believe me.
Hahahahaha! :smug:
Well I will continue with it as a hobby, that's for sure! And yeah, the revelations will come as you go on as with all things. :)
setschaos
05-01-2011, 12:51 PM
I want to use your originals because they are so amazingly abstract but detailed at the same time, I've never liked crazy art, but for some reason, your stuff pops with me and it would be an amazing challenge to recreate your work in 3d while keeping all the two-dimensional aspects of your work.
I only hope I can do it justice!
washka
05-01-2011, 05:24 PM
Hula, you're a philosopher.
Justice will be your own setschaos, and if you go on that quest, believe me, it'll be hard for you. As Hula pointed out, I'm playing between the borders of dream and reality and it's confusing.
It's like trying to take the essence of the ghost you see and transform it into some real thing. :D
We'll see what you can do.
Version 3 of crazy chickin-Bot, I like the work of Yoshi taka Amano.
Now the "gun" is working better according to the rest. It changed a bit again, I will add more details if I go for V4, but that won't be done until a certain time:http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/3449/chickinbotv2w2010.jpg
Avatar-3DT
05-01-2011, 08:03 PM
Lol this looks more and more like some bestiality act. That or its just my dirty mind playing tricks on me. Right now it just looks like a dirty fat robot guy is doing the nasty to this desperate parrot who is trying his all to get away. Rape I say, thats just rape!
washka
05-01-2011, 08:48 PM
Poor Parrot. :haha: :haha: :haha: , I'm laughting like hell right now, I hadn't see this symbolic one.
You got it wrong, it's a nice bot with some bizarre big sword/gun. :halo:
Ok, there is always some phallic symbolic with da sword, but here, even if it was (a bit) done on purpose, I wanted to make the robot looks like an animal (chicken), so there is da bestiality, but I really wasn't thinking about rape, I swear!!!
But even if it wasn't my point of view I like your interpretation because it's far more interesting than mine, have you got any chicken or parrot at home?
Your comment made my day Avatar, thanks. :)
hulahuga
06-01-2011, 02:11 PM
Avatar - Bwahahaha XD
Washka - True! (both things) You might also, that is if you haven't done it already, look into picasso, van gogh, munch and the other surreal/impressionistic/cubistic and just abstract artists to see how they did it :)
Avatar-3DT
06-01-2011, 02:42 PM
No, unfortunately nothing alive can survive in my room. Might be my aura of anger or something :P I'm still looking for my girlfriend - not sure she disintegrated or just moved back to her home. Glad I could bring a smile to you. I really like your strokes (and I mean that in the most artistic, manly, non gay way). Can't wait to see how this works evolves.
washka
06-01-2011, 05:47 PM
Hula: I've already been looking a bit their work, I had some classes about art a few years ago, and sometimes I go to painting exposition. You like those artist?
Thanks for your nice comment, it goes to my heart.
I hope you'll bring her back Avatar, or find a survivor.
The anger is bad company, but she always comes and possess us sometimes provoked, sometimes unexpected. After the tempest we still can try to pick the broken pieces, that's all unfortunatly, even mastered she'll always try to escape.
New one, I started to paint over a photo, a future pin-up witch, the jpeg washed out my colors:
hulahuga
06-01-2011, 06:05 PM
Yeah I attended some art classes as well at the national museum a while back, they were quite interesting :) (mostly geared towards making it yourself though).
But back t the point, I do like all of their styles, and Warhol appeal to me as well. The reason I said it though was because they are the most famous surreal painters to date (...unless I forgot someone ;P)
I like the eyes on the latest one
washka
06-01-2011, 08:36 PM
There is a lot more, I don't know all of them, Dali, Magritte, Ernst... They're not always famous anyway so...
I'm not a big fan of Picasso and Warhol but I respect their work, they were talented artist and their work opened new gates.
You followed those classes because you want to make some new art style/movement?
I think one of the central point of those art movement it's the challenge, questionning the current meaning of their respective society.
Today we got pop art bro!
And conceptual art, abstract art, modern art, contemporary... :wall:
I wonder how previous movements like art nouveau, pointillism, cubism, impressionism, expressionism or surrealism could made those, and I forgot a lot.
Too much movements kill da movement.
Avatar-3DT
06-01-2011, 11:53 PM
Very nice anatomy work and skin color tones on this last one. Sexy too. Now you're gonna have to change your thread name and warn of nudity. I love boobs like the next man but this are the thread's rules. I wonder why are people so scared about them, we usually see one up close from a very early age. Must be those damned guys that grew up with a bottle stuck under the nose.
MStandar
07-01-2011, 12:45 AM
i hav'nt got the time to check all your pages, but i like the last image alot. Very sexy indeed.
You got a very caotic paint style. Fast, scribly, blurry strokes. But i actually likes it. I think it looks great, so keep on working with that style, and keep experimenting with things :)
hulahuga
07-01-2011, 12:56 PM
Well isn't that a movement in itself?
But well the reason I attended the course was to learn the different techniques and underlying thought processes as much as possible so that I can apply it in similar ways myself :)
washka
07-01-2011, 06:43 PM
Avatar-3DT, I've added just now a "Warning nudity" tag on my first post, but it doesn't change the title onto the forum thread list.
And I think there will be more nudity ones in the future because I want to learn a bit more about anatomy. I was thinking about the tag when I did the post, but it completly got out of my mind, thanks you there Avatar. I hope I haven't offended too much people. I know they're underaged children here. I apologize for my recklessness.
Can you help me to add the tag, I don't know what else I can do???
Maybe you'll even (have the luck to) see some nude old granny with those hanging and crumbling fleshes and skins... Or some grandads. (You never know what will come next with me) :evil:
Thanks MStandar, I like to experiment, sometimes I got sh*t results, sometimes I got nice ones. And my approach of technique is caotic, but here I'll make some conceptual shortcut with what Hula said, in some way it's also a technique. Hope I can do better next time.
Dr. Hula, it is, what I said was a bit ironical and humorous, but it's sad.
In my opinion, real artist should be or could be closer to people, they're loosing themselves in their art, making art for other artist, not for the common people.
And in CG, it seems it's quite the same. Making image with big technique for other professionals. Technique evolve that's nice and I'm happy it does, but people forget that it has a purpose, basically technique is just a tool, it doesn't contain anything, it's empty.
I won't go further there because I'll be talking about money again, and it's really sad. Sad world, and so empty. I don't want to kill da mood here.
So go back on artistical movements, wich one do you like the best? Surrealistic ones?
About anatomy and the skin tones Avatar, it's still the photo, not my work. I've not this realistic level for fleshes, my anatomy skills are still quite low, and I know it's a lot of work.
I've just been working onto the face (it's not the original one), the clothes/colors, the belly, I've erased the original background, and I've not finished the painting over yet... I've still got lot's of work to do onto there.
[Warning contain nudity]
Here (http://www.hedonydesign.com/shop/dress/72-the-pinup.html) is the photo source , I should have also given my reference before. I found this image while I was doing a web image research for another work. All started with this, some witch mood, and me thinking about some nice posing, and the irony it's that I think that maybe the crown'll disapear:
washka
07-01-2011, 07:30 PM
Last time I was doing anatomy work was something like 2 years ago.
Maybe if I'm lucky enough I'll get some real nude again those first month of da year during my classes.
Two years ago, full of mistakes:
hulahuga
07-01-2011, 09:49 PM
Yeah I got that it was a bit ironical but I wanted to continue down that road so the speak ;)
Oh btw when you talk about that art should be for the people... The -isms that define our cultural history actually shifted in their focus over time. Some developed for the crowd and just main population whilst others focused on a cultural elite... Which I would say is a rather interesting thing to study :)
And regarding movements in art; I can't really say right away...
I have a bit more defined taste in literature but I haven't really gotten into art "enough" to say a statement that can be kept ;). I like the amazing likenesses that say Rembrandt can capture, the scope of Michelangelo, fantasy of the surrealists, color use of Warhol. What I might not like on the other hand is the stale portraits, fat, pinkish oversize bodies, the lack of vision in contrast to say Michelangelo and finally ordinary pop art.
There are no black and whites...
MStandar
08-01-2011, 12:52 AM
Hope you got me right, when i said caotic paint style, it's not a bad thing, its actually a really intresting approach on the paintings.
well frogott to say, but thanks for posting these pictures :), I got my motivation to learn drawing and painting back.
Avatar-3DT
08-01-2011, 03:33 AM
Thread name changed. Decent sketches - the first one's head is too big and the feet too small. And I did see granny titties, old people are the hardest to sketch and often choose exactly for the hanging skin and the motherload of wrinkles. In time the nude sketching session in any art school kind of shatters all your conventional views about beauty and makes you realize how shallow we usually are.
Do sketch more, it will give you a better understanding of the human body (actually is why nude sketching exists). If you have a willing friend ask to model for you. If you can afford to pay, pay a model. If the both above fail, thank go the web is full of naked people. Its not the best approach or the best way - model face to face with some natural light is the best way I would say - but it will do.
MStandar
08-01-2011, 12:04 PM
Like avatar said, internet is full of naked people, one site im actually use when it comes to gesture drawing, is this one, http://pixelovely.com/tools/gesture.html
You can set the time every image will be shown (30sec - 10 minutes) and after that, it will change to a new one. Hopefully with another gesture.
I also use this one, but i dont think it's as good as the other one, well that depends on what you are doing. If you are just training gesture drawing like i am, i think it is very good to have a set time limit, to press yourself to become faster and faster. Because its easy keep on working on something for ever if you dont have a time limit. On the plus side here you can choose what image you want to draw from yourselft. And there is no time limit on the images. http://characterdesigns.com/index.php?sitepage=photosets
There you have a menu with around 30 diffrent photosets, there should be more then enough, to satisfy anybodys drawing needs.
And good start on those sketches, keep it up :)
washka
08-01-2011, 06:53 PM
Oh btw when you talk about that art should be for the people... The -isms that define our cultural history actually shifted in their focus over time. Some developed for the crowd and just main population whilst others focused on a cultural elite... Which I would say is a rather interesting thing to study
Yes, it is. Stratification. But it's a bit a waste, it should be open for everybody, but here again with some restraints as Avatar hightlighted
(I understand that you're applying your autority so the thread rules are followed man, don't worry, and I'm not stupid enough to misunderstand their utility. I'm innatentive sometimes :/, my bad. Thanks you for the Tag change!).
In some organized and decent way => I've nothing against tags, if they don't stick to me too much. And I promote a thoughtfully art diffusion using for exemple [Parental advisory] when it's necessary. I'm not against certain forms of censorship when there are good reasons.
On my thread, there could be a [Parental advisory].
Don't make too much statements Hula, points of view change with life and taste changes. I hated manga until I got 18 because I was thinking the drawing was so poor. Then I discovered some great ones, changed my mind, and now I appreciate the style.
There are no black and whites...
Agree. But what I was saying that concern a big majority of those movement it's that I think that they're encircling themselves. (There we could said, that's the definition...) Not completly because we're on an era of exchanges, but again I think this self-centered vision is a bit sad.
I got you right MStandar, and I take it as a compliment and I assumes my way of doing things. A lill' story for you, don't take it too seriously:
Once I said to one of my friend: "Chaos is some kind of order that you just can't understand". I said that to him because I've been working a bit on chaos construction, usually you just try to disrupt a predeterminate order. But often, with a simple rule you can get back to a new order (it can be different from the previous one).
In fact I believe that chaos and order are indivisibles, just an idea
I think that the approach that separate their existence is kinda wrong because it's when you separate things that you define a difference between them. Now I won't go further because that is completly against the scientific empirism of our modern era, and people will just think I'm crazy. xD
Even if I don't give a sh*t if they do so, everybody is a bit crazy.
Thanks a lot for the model picture links, I'll use those for ref and practice. Even if I always said that in a photo there is already a focal and a perspective different from your eye and that like Vatsel said: "Go make still/real life", it's the best, practice is always good.
If you've got your motivation back that's good, basic fuel.
Best things that allow you to progress are hard work from yourself, critics from people (and accept those/correct), and then maybe achievement.
Avatar: And upper arm from right one is too slim, shadows are low, line isn't clear, not enough volume...
I completly agree with you about sketching old people (same for fat/slim, you can also try some children, then other mammals or animals) The academical approach is quite interesting, it learns a lot.
I hope I get some during my classes. And again thanks for tag change!
Here is one I did today, title: "Not far from Innsmouth"
With such title/hint, I bet that you can guess where does my inspiration come from?
MStandar
08-01-2011, 10:11 PM
H.P Lovecraft. ;)
Im not sure about what it should resemble, For me it's, some old man with spikey hair, and gandal beard, being hunted down by some creapy ass monsters. But i like it :haha:
Avatar-3DT
09-01-2011, 02:31 AM
Nasty. In fact I think your style is the best one to approach the subject of the old ones.
washka
09-01-2011, 11:34 AM
Good guess MStandar! This guy (Lovecraft) had a sh*tty life, but in my opinion he's one of the biggest master of the genre.
I had some kind of enormous spiky crayfish stuck in a crevasse in my head, but now I see the spiky old man, with a big nose.
I like your interpretation, I'm seeing new things on it now. Thanks!
It's when I got comment from you like this that I appreciate even more what I do, was the same with Avatar's parrot.
Images like those are interpretation free, I just work onto shapes and lightning and try to make it looks like a bit realistic.
It's a bit like a Russian roulette, but it doesn't mean that I don't put any meaning on it, I do. It's some kind of funny game, and the shots don't kill here.
Completly agree with you Avatar, I'll have to add more differents skin details, folds, transparency, wrinkles and buttons. Work with colors tones, fur, slobber... And try to make a better definition of the shape sometimes, same for lightning. I'm preparing another old one that's waiting from some times ago, I think it'll get out soon. Thanks for comment!
And for da lill' story of the previous one, I started with this (Some kind of white Arthur Ghost mood):
washka
09-01-2011, 09:35 PM
Hope you don't get a cold:
MStandar
09-01-2011, 10:06 PM
Nice :)
The trees to the left, and the snow wall building up like a wave, and a characther at the top riding the "wave". That would be my guess on it.
same man, don't got a cold, and hope you had a great christmas, and will have a great 2011. You have started out good, so now it's just keep on working :)
washka
10-01-2011, 09:39 PM
Thanks MStandar! I hope to get a better year 2011 than 2010, really.
And there could also be some faery/imps in front of da character, but hard to see those.
Today:
Started with the eye concept (1h00) then I made "Son of poseidon" (4h00) from it, then the Chicken (3h00) from the eye again. Still mistakes, details and lightning...
washka
11-01-2011, 06:04 PM
Two news, some critter, and a design exercice (mirrored face). Hope you'll enjoy those.
Avatar-3DT
12-01-2011, 12:20 AM
"The son of Poseidon", 'tho very cyclops in design it also seem very lovecraftian to me in its shape and form. The creature in the newest post looks a lot like a flea. The mirrored one looks just fine 'tho the eyes are just a bit too far apart.
washka
12-01-2011, 06:30 PM
Cyclops are the sons of Poseidon in Homerian Odysseus. So I wanted to get some aquatic feeling but it's not strong enough yet.
Agree there about the eye, didn't see it when I was onto the work. I'll correct that.
There is also some neck problem and height of the head/lenght ratio too (But there the structure can move it so), I think I'll add somes tube(s) too, remake left eye, and go with a better approach for materia/lightning.
Thanks for feedback Avatar!
hulahuga
12-01-2011, 06:57 PM
All these ones speak in a pretty similar way of a new change of style. And it looks very good! :) (though it might just be a phase or bit of a batch ;))
The winter one, eye, cyclops and monster are all awesome! The eye especially looks really cool regarding design and the lightning and contrast of the cyclops stands out a bit as well :)
As avatar said the eyes (and actually the whole face) looks a bit too wide on the mirrored face. You could just try to either transform it and mirror again or put the mirror a bit closer to the eye...
KIU
washka
12-01-2011, 06:59 PM
I'm the first one to give Avatar and Hula, their FIRST thanks.
MOUAHAHAHAHAH!
Now you're not thanks virgin anymore! xD
It's for all the good comments you've done to me since I started this thread, so you deserve it!
hulahuga
12-01-2011, 07:16 PM
:D
Actually seems like a good, and better, addition to the thumbs up award :).
washka
12-01-2011, 07:18 PM
I think, it's a phase coming from late warning and my conceptuals, but I'm slowly understanding where and how to "push", I just hope to get better there as we all do.
Mirrored face need to be reworked, I'll post some correction tonight or tomorrow.
Tumbs up is a nice award, but I think modos give it when you've really been helping a lot for something.
By the way you there Hula, I want to make some resume of my artwork 2010/2011 with a post on completed CG section, and I want you to choose/help me get/ the 10 best shots for it.
I'll compare your choice to mine and decide of the pick, then I'll rework those a bit and make da post, if you agree to help?
hulahuga
12-01-2011, 07:21 PM
Sure!
Sounds like a great idea actually! Do you want the ones with most potential or the ones who are best as they stand?
setschaos
12-01-2011, 07:29 PM
got a little bit of an update on what I've been up to, here's the link!
http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?p=832108#post832108
hulahuga
12-01-2011, 08:16 PM
Okay so I've looked through the entire thread (a bit funny, I've almost made very other post at times ;P) and saved all my favs :).
Then I put them in a folder looked at them as miniatures and made a second selection from there. So in the end I narrowed it down to 15... Then as I wrote this that might be too many but that right now it is a pretty tough call.
So these are the ones...
2011W (winter one)
1000926034... (loads of numbers continuing, but it is the one where you have three different color version of the woman in your jungle, garden scene)
Chickinbotv2w2010 (chicken bot with dicksword ;P)
Cyclop(s)W2011 (really good contrast and lightning in that one, transfers very well onto the miniature as well)
DaWitchByWashka (fiery witch with loads of colors in reds to yellows with blue details)
EyeW2011 (very cool concept and design, but which needs more contrast and lightning to bring out as a piece, though that is a piece of cake :))
GolemW2010 (nice head design there)
HLaurie (a bit different style from the rest which looks very, very good)
MythNLegendsByWashka (transfers very well onto the miniature due to the clear distinct shapes. Not as strong full size but has a lot of potential :))
NFFInnsmouthW2011 (basically really cool ligthning which almost looks as a waterfall...)
OldOneByWashka (the cool dragon)
rageW2010 (interesting concept with nice shapes and colors. Needs a bit more distinction to transfer onto the miniature though)
risew2010 (the one I thought you should do in oils. Just loads of very cool colors)
twocharadw2010 (your "dw5 mini" concept)
crustaceW2010 (Very cool in full size. NOTE: it is the first version that I chose)
Oh almost forgot: OldOneW2010 (the snail like monster made with ballpoint. Quite interesting this one)
So that's basically it! Let me know what you do with it!
washka
12-01-2011, 08:53 PM
I'm on it setschaos!
Ok, copy that Hula, thanks man! About criteria, you choose, I prefer potential ones but it's your point of view that interest me, not mine.
If you change your mind I did this:
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2131/planchelw20102011.jpg
I put out somes I considered of less interest.(auto-censorship :evil:). But if you want to point them out, it's still ok.
Avatar, if you pass by, or any other forum member, your point of view for this top 10, is also appreciated, even if Hula'll is king of the hill atm. :evil:
washka
12-01-2011, 10:16 PM
15 is already some nice pick man, so here's what I think:
* 2011W (winter one)
I don't understand this one, there is something in, agree, but why this one?
* 1000926034... (loads of numbers continuing, but it is the one where you have three different color version of the woman in your jungle, garden scene)
So you like colors, same for witch later, those are quite on the artistic side.
* Chickinbotv2w2010 (chicken bot with dicksword )
Nice pick, hope i won't "kill" this one if I work on it again, sometimes it happens when I add details.
* Cyclop(s)W2011 (really good contrast and lightning in that one, transfers very well onto the miniature as well)
Should I add some colors on this one then? (Easy pick, but here from those three "eye" ones we'll have to choose one ==>***)
* DaWitchByWashka (fiery witch with loads of colors in reds to yellows with blue details)
Colors, what I said, I had another killer witch (black and white n°33), so you prefer this cold/hot color bomb?
* EyeW2011 (very cool concept and design, but which needs more contrast and lightning to bring out as a piece, though that is a piece of cake )
==>*** So we'll have to choose there with Cyclops.
* GolemW2010 (nice head design there)
Nice pick, I already know how this one'll turn on (General in front of his army with lot's of flags/banners).
* HLaurie (a bit different style from the rest which looks very, very good)
This one is an outsider from my point of view, but it's a good pick, he's in.
* MythNLegendsByWashka (transfers very well onto the miniature due to the clear distinct shapes. Not as strong full size but has a lot of potential )
Wich one here? Tower alone? Tower with landscape & zombie? Tower with warrior/mount/zombie? There was also the Gif to the god contest that was a quite interesting one.
OOooh the knightess? N°77? :D
* NFFInnsmouthW2011 (basically really cool ligthning which almost looks as a waterfall...)
I think it's a good pick, if I change this one, it'll stay in B&W or just with a few color, I'll add even more interesting details and athmos. Getting da creepy mood out.
* OldOneByWashka (the cool dragon)
Yellow profile head?
* rageW2010 (interesting concept with nice shapes and colors. Needs a bit more distinction to transfer onto the miniature though)
:D That's Avatar's aura of anger that everybody share with him.
* risew2010 (the one I thought you should do in oils. Just loads of very cool colors)
Nice pick, artistic side again, I'll add colors and detail, there'll be hell for the dark one. :evil:
* twocharadw2010 (your "dw5 mini" concept)
Free pick, I'm not sure I'll change a lot of things on this one.
* crustaceW2010 (Very cool in full size. NOTE: it is the first version that I chose)
Why not second version? Explain, why? I wanted to add the Apollo car on the second version with crater.
* Oh almost forgot: OldOneW2010 (the snail like monster made with ballpoint. Quite interesting this one)
You mean n°84?
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Some other ones I've been thinking about, said what you think about those or why you would reject them:
-Last nude witch (N°14), I could work/paint further on it.
-Strong mind N°48, Outer World N°49, I think those with some more work are quite interesting, Outer World is quite a bomb in my personal opinion but maybe I should have titled it "The other world", or geek syndrom. xD
-Gift to the god/ Winterfire (Armageddon contest) are some nice pick too.
Thanks for your pick Hula, your choices are pointing my artistic side more than the design one. I think that style is a mix from both ones with the add of the special ingredient. :D
hulahuga
13-01-2011, 07:36 AM
Oh, oups the strong mind is definitely in and the witch looks cool as well :) But I tried to narrow it down so some had to go ;P
The mythNlegends was the girl on N*77... But Nefarius on 78 is good as well but he doesn't have as strong a pose...
And the winter one I chose because it does break off a bit from the rest plus when I saw it i felt it had potential for a strong piece :) Lots of emotion...
And yeah you were right in all guesses. I was trying to pick the ones that looks best for perhaps a strong portfolio :) And just the ones I liked the most when i picked them.
ps: the walker on the final row has lots of potential but isn't nowhere near done...
Avatar-3DT
13-01-2011, 11:45 AM
Nice collection man, its kind of good to take an overall look at your work so far.
washka
13-01-2011, 06:27 PM
Hula:
So I'll have to choose between those witches.
N°77 is a special one. Agree with Nefarius's pose, weak one. (Worked onto a 3D mesh that had a static posing, mesh from a friend, I should have asked him to change it before painting over, or change it myself before/while painting)
Agree with your comment on winter, but I'm not sure I'll put it in it.
Same for the walker, aside for the moment, but this one won't stay "empty", don't worry.
So what about crustaceW2010, why first one? Cyclopus or eye?
I'm already quite happy with the pick, and I already plan to do what you said with those: a little folio. And also some more diffusion later.
Avatar-3DT:
Yeah I think it's good too, you get some global view, and you can compare you differents works. I should post my works before 2008 someday so we can smile a bit. :D What do you think about Hula's pick?
So here's mirrored face back, I did some corrections on it, was too wide.
I'm trying to break da symetry now, work is not finished there.
washka
17-01-2011, 06:53 PM
Yesterday I had a long day in front of the screen and at the end of it, I trashed my eyes with this speedy one.
My eyes are sooo tired now (they still say sh*t to me right now), I won't work with dark athmos when my eyes are tired anymore (nevermore), I was stupid, that kill da eye, aouch. Didn't knew that.
setschaos
18-01-2011, 02:21 PM
Very nice colors on the last one, sets a really nice mood. Methinks that your last one may be my next target ^_^
WIPs tonight on the chicken choker!
hulahuga
18-01-2011, 02:46 PM
Hula:
So I'll have to choose between those witches.
N°77 is a special one. Agree with Nefarius's pose, weak one. (Worked onto a 3D mesh that had a static posing, mesh from a friend, I should have asked him to change it before painting over, or change it myself before/while painting)
Agree with your comment on winter, but I'm not sure I'll put it in it.
Same for the walker, aside for the moment, but this one won't stay "empty", don't worry.
So what about crustaceW2010, why first one?
Cyclopus or eye?
I'm already quite happy with the pick, and I already plan to do what you said with those: a little folio. And also some more diffusion later.
So here's mirrored face back, I did some corrections on it, was too wide.
I'm trying to break da symetry now, work is not finished there.
Well I liked the first crab because as an image it appealed to me a bit more. It was also a bit more simplistic and just... neat :D. But the second one is good as well, only it doesn't have object in perhaps as much focus as in the first one.
BOTH! :dance:
The cyclops is already really good, but the eye can be made into something completely different. Think the transformers homeworld, or perhaps that globe I showed a pic of in the middle of the Vatican :)
Do! :) Make sure to present it in a cool way as well since even though one might sneeze at it a good presentation means a lot for how your images are perceived.
Face looks good (will edit and comment more)
ok edit: You should take care not giving it too much weight on our right side. Add some downward parts on the left to get a bit more balanced picture and to add to the diagonal form :)
Eyes look very god btw..
The latest one is a neat concept, I like the specularity :)
washka
18-01-2011, 05:14 PM
Thanks setschaos, the mood got something but I won't play on hight darkness athmos in bad conditions, it really hurts da eye, I've learned the lesson.
Try get some nice one with first attempt, and take your time.
If you manage to get fun taking your time on it (it's not always the case, sometimes unwanted and unespected problems comes when you're working on something), I think you'll get something interesting.
For the next one you've still got plenty of time to decide yourself, maybe they'll be other things you want to model, who knows? :)
Dr.Hula:
Agree about focud on crab, landscape style on second: I had planned to add some small Apollo car with an astronaut.
You'll have to open a bit my eyes about what you see for the eye. (This sentence rocks!) Need more data input there.
First I'll try to male all the corrections/tweaking about those choosen in the pick, then when I'll have finished (maybe in some weeks or somes months only) the folio.
And I still wanna work onto the comic, joint project thread, but here I'm slowly thinking about another approach, nothing sure yet.
Added some mood for the face, and seems I already anticipated your comment about the balance there Hula. It's a bit better on this one, no? (balance)
hulahuga
18-01-2011, 06:46 PM
Yeah the balance looks better, but I thought of a diagonal in the other direction :D
I like the STALKER-ish feeling with the visor!
Regarding crab, you could make it an entire super detailed city, but the simplicity of the first one was what attracted me.
Joint project:
What was your thought?
washka
18-01-2011, 07:24 PM
Once we got the chara research and layout done, make somes simple low-poly of them (+posing-rig) and basical scenery and use those as proxy/paint-over.
I'll calculate how much time I win doing that, and how much I loose, then decide. But as I said: nothing sure yet.
And once I'm on Dominance, I'll disapear a while, so I'm already talking about after-war period.
needse
18-01-2011, 11:51 PM
some weird and wonderful stuff going on here' that's a compliment by the way
hulahuga
19-01-2011, 05:39 AM
Yeah that definitely sounds as a great idea! :) Then we can get everything similar regarding proportions and shapes. We might even take it further for the main character, do a bit more on him, like the head basically...
washka
20-01-2011, 05:42 PM
I'm glad and I take it as a compliment, thanks needse.
Hula: proportions
Yeah that's the point, and we'll get a lightning basis. Agree about face, maybe some really simple morphers, final expressions will be reworked on it. That'll make a lot of work...
New speedy ones:
First one is some kind of outside watery grave landscape with a victorian/steampunk mood. Those are just spots: the ultimate laziest technique => there is quite nothing (build) on this one, I just made da lady, your brain will make my work :D
"Why should I paint if you've already got the colors in your head?" (dixit me mid-ironically)
Second one is a new conceptual going to S-F mood (2h00), I was lucky for the rendering there (not mental ray but pure accident), somes shapes/volumes are still undefined/ambiguous in the perspective, but I'll correct that later.
hulahuga
20-01-2011, 06:21 PM
The victorian thingy was pretty nifty actually :)
Can't really spot what the second is though, an eye in profile with the eyebrow above? Or what? :lame:
setschaos
20-01-2011, 07:17 PM
I think it's someone holding a marble?!?!?!?! Not sure myself. Can't be an eye... Maybe an elephant sitting in a fushigi ball?
So perplexing!
>:D
washka
20-01-2011, 08:23 PM
xD, I like your inputs guys, now I can see the elephant too.
The fushigi ball is quite on the cheek place. Nice one man, I discover something new!
I had some kind of profiled "looking up" bot head, with a transparent/plastic surface on top of it (covering "face" and "upper crane"). The eye you see goes "in", volume should go "out"/to you, that's what I wanted to explain, there's still volumes anomalies/aberrations I need to correct. The rendering of the upper transparent black surface and the "plastic" look are quite interesting.
Still, it's still messy xD.
washka
23-01-2011, 07:33 PM
Some new low speedies, one is just a concept I wanted to remember and some color test, the other one (warrior) is some interesting mood I'll rework in in a distant future:
washka
24-01-2011, 05:30 PM
New ones made today:
-Some custom brush test with a color mood.
-A future color work, title is: "The big cities".
-Another color work: "Yellow Star", this last one asked some more work, I recommend to step back a bit from screen for this one.
Hope you'll enjoy.
washka
25-01-2011, 06:32 PM
Some memory build anat study, to remind me I need to do more of those stuff, plenty of muscle parts I don't know about, learning learning learning!
The other one, I shouldn't show it, but can't wait.
A:-Some personal comment about the difficulties of everyday life?
B:-Yeah, it's really hard to transform future into present, but I try.
hulahuga
25-01-2011, 06:51 PM
A and B having a conversation
;P
I guess you could make a Freudian analysis of that...
I like the expression in the posture in the anatomy thingy.
The rework shows promise! Take care with his hand though and make sure the weapon is properly aligned perspective wise :) Also try to think what army that beast is leading and how their look might affect their cultural identity...
washka
25-01-2011, 07:53 PM
Ok boss! I'll think about it.
washka
26-01-2011, 05:08 PM
I want a nice holidays on a sunny beach with some sympathetic racy sexy girl.
Yes, I know: it's too much to ask, but I can dream...
hulahuga
26-01-2011, 05:23 PM
Not really.... ;)
washka
26-01-2011, 06:23 PM
Not really.... ;P
I can't even dream? o_O
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
hulahuga
26-01-2011, 07:05 PM
Nooooo! I meant that it is not too much too ask! ;P
washka
27-01-2011, 05:03 PM
Money and girls don't fall from da sky Hula, I would have to wear an helmet outside... xD
Mood still on colors and fast undetailed thingies, there's some trash effect test, also did some big sized color developpement, anatomy of da girl is a real mess but that wasn't really the point of da work:
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/1995/girll.jpg
hulahuga
27-01-2011, 05:55 PM
Something that might be quite effectful for the last pic might be to make that crowd perhaps a bit more in one tone to make it stick out a bit...
Also I somehow see a spider centaur in that guy who is pointing...
Wouldn't say girls are more or less equal with money... Sure some are but still ;)
Regarding them falling from the sky; I guess I could pull another Sweden joke here ;P
washka
27-01-2011, 06:12 PM
I guess I could pull another Sweden joke here
Wich one?
hulahuga
27-01-2011, 06:23 PM
Something that I would come up with ;)
girls don't fall from da sky Hula
Well they don't have to here in Sweden... They are everywhere!
or simply put
Obviously you're not living in Sweden...
;P
washka
27-01-2011, 06:59 PM
That's not fair! xD xD xD
But even if obviously I don't live in Sweden, and I've understood the joke, It would be too beautifull to be true:
Stats (http://www.bfs.admin.ch/bfs/portal/en/index/themen/01/02/blank/key/alter/nach_geschlecht.html)
hulahuga
27-01-2011, 07:05 PM
Have you become american? That's not Sweden, it is frigging Switzerland!!!! :wall: XD
washka
27-01-2011, 08:52 PM
xD xD xD My bad.
More men than women in Sweden, except after 65 years.
stats Sweden (http://www.ssd.scb.se/databaser/makro/VisavarAgg.asp?var=Alder&grupp%281%29=%C5lder10%E5r&statusV%281%29=1&nr=1&varpres=age&inl=&xu=scb&yp=bergman&huvudtabell=BefolkprognRev2009&deltabell=&deltabellnamn=Population+by+age+and+sex%2E+Year+20 09%2D2110&omradekod=BE&omradetext=Population&preskat=O&prodid=BE0401&starttid=2009&stopptid=2110&antvar=2&vardemangd=%C5lder1%E5rG&innehall=Befolkprogn&databas=SDB_Befolkning1&pr=T&Fromwhere=M&FromSel=G&lang=2&langdb=2)
Different from Switzerland where the ratio is quite the same.
I did a mis-translation, two first letters are the same, and I also suck in geography. Maybe that's because I live in a smaaaalll country, nah I just suck in geography.
Knowing america's geography should be far harder. xD
But I've been in holiday in Sweden a few years ago with a friend's family and it was a great, you've got a beautifull country.
hulahuga
28-01-2011, 08:29 AM
Thing is the percentage of these women being hot is a lot higher.... ;P
Short pointer Sweden is above you and you've had royal marriages with them historically. (I think, might be the netherlands).
Switzerland is below you squeezed in between italy and france being a tiny banking nation...
washka
28-01-2011, 06:07 PM
You got hot women, the tiny nation's got the money. :D
Here we got dumbs politicians... and Atlantic is so cold, where is my sunny hot beach?
hardtack
29-01-2011, 03:53 AM
the greyish one reminds me of the paintings done by H.R. Giger. pretty cool anyway
washka
29-01-2011, 09:35 AM
Thanks hardtack, I don't know why but I remember Samwise & co's Blizzard style (Son of the storms) with this one.
washka
29-01-2011, 06:49 PM
Coffins:
Cordero
30-01-2011, 08:56 AM
Hey man!
I managed not to find ur thread... till now!:D Browsed back, and u have some real cool style to ur work, very unique indeed.
Loving the eye in #350 post. I'm not too in to 2d art (yet) so I can't really say anything useful, but I'll follow this thread, and cheer lead :D
Keep up the great work!
washka
30-01-2011, 10:56 AM
There's a lot of hidden threads on thready, sometimes you're just happy to found those.
Thanks for the kind comment Cordero, I just try to make something better each time, it doesn't always work for me but..., and it seems that you've got this positive attitude too.
And seeing what you've done during the last DW warmings entries, I really hope that you'll make some kick's *ss work for the great war, I'll keep an eye on it and cheer too. :max:
[Edit]
Some lill' musical concept fun:
Kitana
30-01-2011, 07:37 PM
The one eyed monster looks creepy :) In some of your drawings I still don't know where exactly to look and where is the focus if you understand what I mean. But you define the forms better now. Maybe just little more work on this.
washka
30-01-2011, 08:29 PM
Yes, I understand what you mean Kitana, thanks for constructive comment.
Sometimes, rarely, I just don't really care about the focus, I just want the eye to wander around, and there is usually where the brain take the relay, it still quite undefined but you acquire a "better" understanding of the image's globality, I try to induce that.
Sometimes I just don't make the work (the lazy guy syndrom).
For exemple on Watery Grave #329. (I think it is the best exemple to explain what I'm trying to do)
If you look at it a bit more than a simple image you brain will try to replace the shape that you don't understand by somes with more meaning. Same for my ghost. (Blurry visage/red I did 1 or 2 month ago)
It's something like autosuggestion. But that's not on =all= my paintings, just on a few ones (lill' minority). Yeah and it hurts da eye... Sorry!
Sometimes I'm also trying to make somes efforts, quite infrequent...
Otherwise it's a real lack on my work, on a big majority of my paintings I got blurry and undefined results. The technique I use also got this bad tendencie.
In the future I'll try to define the forms better, or think about it more. I think It's also a lazyness problem I've got I need to fight against. :hmm:
setschaos
30-01-2011, 09:14 PM
I don't see a one eyed monster on your last piece... I see a skull-headed serpent! Another beautiful thing about a majority of your work, so many different visions based on interpretations often guided by personal experiences.
I really like your work
washka
31-01-2011, 04:33 PM
Thanks setschaos! Snake is on the top of the skull?
I think that in painting you can "push out" or "push in", we've got a free media, with quite no restraints (digitally). Tools we can use are awesomes and they give a lot of freedom. Even if it's a double-edged blade, I like to use or develop this freedom.
Here is a serie I did, because I want to explain that destructuring an image ("push in"/feed it) gives you a lot of potential "solutions" when you're using speedpainting technique.
the rest is just trying to "push out" your own interpretation, trying to clarify it.
I did not invented that, video games concept artists use that all the time starting with stains/random shapes, even psychologist does, cavemen did it too...
I'm not always working with outlines/line work, I mostfully use stains and often play with and merge (in one) my layers once I got something beween 4-10 layers (I usually just save before that).
So here's The DUMMY serie (title's a bit self-deprecating just because I can't be serious with this technique, because it's just fun), second image is a low pushed-out interpretation of (a) (here I tried to make some kind of zombie prince, but it could have been a robot or a monster, or a mask, quite a lot of faces or anything...). My posts/works are frequently even lower in terms of interpretation/pushing out work than this second image because I just focus more into pushing in.
(There is also a greater size of previous work post)
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/8440/dummywipw2011.jpg
washka
31-01-2011, 04:46 PM
I would also add that this last portrait has been done without ref.
It was just constructive thinking and memory. There is still plenty of details/corrections I could make, especially on nose/lips/ear/skin, but I had some interesting result for now, so it's currently over. (Doesn't mean finished)
setschaos
31-01-2011, 07:28 PM
I meant skull on top of snake. Probably a translation issue ^_^
Anyway! This is what I see: (ps. pardon my MS Paint heresy, at work right now...)
washka
31-01-2011, 08:22 PM
Not an heresy man, your interpretation is AWESOMEZ! And it works really well.
I really like your concept! I'll push out some golden snake from this one.
hulahuga
01-02-2011, 06:54 AM
I actually saw just that as well... ;P
edit: the last portrait looks quite cool. I like the bluish shadows and the foggy look :)
jramauri
01-02-2011, 10:44 AM
Hey washka! First off all, congrats for such a sketchbook. I browsed for some pages, and I've seen a lot of cool works. It seems you are improving a lot from the beginning 'til now. this is very inspiring.
One thing that bugs me though are your strokes. Are you using PS for painting? The layered low opacity strokes give a strong impression of dirty. What are your brush settings? Have you ever tried to use just "other dynamics" with opacity set to pen pressure? It works very well to me.
Anyway, keep up the good work, I'm watching!
washka
01-02-2011, 07:56 PM
I actually saw just that as well...
I could think that's a swedish joke Hula. :haha:
Thanks for second comment, the ghost/foggy mood wasn't quite intentional but now you point it out, it adds something.
I wanted to make some nostalgic/gently/delicate, a bit feminine, zombie/undead aristocratic/poet guy... something like that. The ghost mood adds to it.
jramauri, first of all thanks, and you artwork is also very inspiring.
Second of all, don't let it bug/bother you, I use PS with ="other dynamics" with opacity set to pen pressure=. I make my custom brush myself but in general I use the simplest round one (opacity and size on pen pressure).
My strokes are fuzzy, because there is no real outline, it's just an illusion of shading, there is no real shading, just stains that superpose. I also play a lot with opacity and layers, my image composition moves all the time, so it gets dirty and blurry really quickly with me. I also use brushes that produce a lot of dirt and I'm not really painting on "layers", but on =a= layer, or with =a= layer.
Usually my image starts to "solidify" when it's over 60% finished. I think there should be less than 10 images on this thread that I consider over 60% finished on something like 100 images.
I've personally nothing against dirt on an image. My technique produce those more than common sense would recommand. I also recognize that sometimes (not for all my images) it's a defect and it's something I should work more on.
99% of hight quality image are clean, and I know the reasons and they're good reasons, I'm onto the other 1% left and I've got my reasons.
(I explained a part of those a bit earlier)
Sometimes I also make some more "clean" works, it happens too, but not frequently. :D
washka
02-02-2011, 05:31 PM
Lill' speedies...
washka
03-02-2011, 07:35 PM
Lill' speed weapon concept:
hulahuga
03-02-2011, 07:37 PM
Yeah sure does :)
What has happened to that fish btw, is he stuck??
Lightning of the middle one in the latest batch looks quite cool. Like how you played with warm and cool!
washka
03-02-2011, 08:38 PM
What has happened to that fish btw, is he stuck??
Don't know, maybe he just rests like this, making some shadow to the whale.
hulahuga
04-02-2011, 08:05 AM
:smug:
washka
04-02-2011, 07:01 PM
Good day today, some interesting inspiration:
-A psychedelic color work, maybe this one will change onto an empress or a pharaonic priestess, we'll see. It comes from another color work with a girl I did a week ago. I'm also working on a third one (still plenty of colors) more anatomy-oriented.
-A pixie mood inspired by Avatar's last work. Wanted to push out this typical childish girl behavior (when they're upset). It's a big stereotype I'm laughting at there. The pixie is saying:"Ni!". Cheap quick work.
-Some big bad monster specular/dark ambient/hight contrast test, title is:
"I got a shovel!!!". For my miner fans... (Even if I'm quite sure I don't have any of those... xD)
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/9424/triangularpatterns2011.jpg
Avatar-3DT
05-02-2011, 01:43 AM
:D we should put our pixies together and make them some cool friends. Brownies and alike, to play with them. Then have the huge prehistoric fish attack and eat them all while the psychedelic empress/priestess dances around sprinkling them with salt and paper. Now that would make a weird ass dream :D
waheednasir
06-02-2011, 04:57 AM
i li ke the abstract quality of most of your work..strong!
washka
06-02-2011, 02:28 PM
Avatar: A big party!!! :dance: :dance: :dance:
waheednasir: Thanks!
New stereotype speedie one, title is: "Barbarian". The vulture was taken from a photo. I overworked effects here... A bit too much.
http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/4520/barbarianw2011.jpg
hulahuga
06-02-2011, 03:03 PM
Just a bit ;)
But the rust look looks cool! and I like the cape.
washka
06-02-2011, 05:26 PM
Thanks Hula!
Some kind of workflows I encounter/ I'm using when I'm working on an image.
It can help a creative approach.
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/6866/wfw2011.jpg
hulahuga
06-02-2011, 06:58 PM
Nice shots :). Shows a lot!
Think the middle one had a much fiercer expression though as everything seemed to move and had a lot of curvature. Though it does hurt the eye a bit ;)
washka
06-02-2011, 07:17 PM
Because close-up and larger one or because of the moving blur, don't know.
They all hurt the eye too much, I used too much effect on the start, but i'll attenuate it. Thanks for contructive com' man.
washka
07-02-2011, 07:04 PM
:faces:
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/7160/barbarian02w2011.jpg
Avatar-3DT
07-02-2011, 09:00 PM
Lol man, nice ones. As for your question, we all eat, that's gotta go out sometime :p
washka
08-02-2011, 05:12 PM
People shouldn't eat so much... :)
That's how some dream concept made a fish. I prefer da fish, the other one was sad.
I think I'll push out da fish a bit more, want some more dumb "I don't care" expression there, will use some more ref too.
hulahuga
09-02-2011, 06:07 PM
Hey man, if you haven't already check out these brushes! Been using them today and they are way cool :)
http://cghub.com/scripts/view/147/
Also some critique for your paintings: :)
I think that you should look over the pose of top arm of the warrior.
Second one looks like a guy peeking out behind a door :smug:
Really cool sense of movement in the third!
Fishes have potential :)
washka
09-02-2011, 07:13 PM
Thanks for those Hula, I just dl it, I'll test that tonight or tomorrow.
Your eye is right about the warrior's arms, both of them are kinda wrong, especially top one, (whole stuff's still a bit moving) they have to be redefined.
Interesting interpretation for second, I can see your door, mine was some kind of englued birdman/vampire.
Third one was some speed for a friend's birthday that made some fencing.
If you catch the speed, then I achieved my goal.
You remember the pick you helped me for a weeks ago, we had something like a lill' 20 ones pick, I'll cut it to 10, because otherwise I'll never finish the "endwork" (knowing and taking in account my workspeed).
This new one is my next step for the Frazetta Tribute (last year).
It's slowly taking shape...Yes, it's too dark yet.
Now that I got my nude tag. :evil:
:haha:
piotrmaruszak
09-02-2011, 07:18 PM
i love this one - http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/9424/triangularpatterns2011.jpg
would be nice to have a big print on the wall :)
hulahuga
09-02-2011, 07:44 PM
Yeah, that's true, 20 would prove to be too many..
One thing you should think of with the girl would be to make sure the joints aren't too fatty or it will look odd...
Let me know when you've tried the brushes out :)
washka
09-02-2011, 10:14 PM
Hey piotr, if some day I'm rich enough to print some real posters from those maybe I'll ask your post adress and send you this one, hope I got some good memory. :)
But it's still in an abstract form, I wonder how'll be the final.
I tried the brushes Hula they're quite interesting, texture effect and behaviour are good and effective, even if detailing is quite hard with those (except if I size up). I'll test those some more.
It's not an impasto but here's some doodelings one:
waheednasir
10-02-2011, 04:27 AM
fun, happy palette here..:).
hulahuga
10-02-2011, 05:51 AM
You should try some of the 300px brushes if you haven't already :) They work very well for prepping the canvas...
washka
10-02-2011, 05:56 PM
Yeah those 300px are quite good, also for soft lightning or if you want to break an outline. I used your brush a bit more today, here's somes speedies, also made some personal interpretation from yesterday's doodling (the one that hurt da eyes):
washka
10-02-2011, 06:04 PM
This last one is some kind of armored spacewarrior (DBZ mood), just throwing some big punch. (Splotcher initiate was there)
Had lot's of fun today, mix test, cartoon:
http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/685/comobarbarianw2011.jpg
hulahuga
11-02-2011, 07:29 AM
Cool, kiu!
Not too sure that I fancy all the greens in the "splotcher initiate was here" though...
One thing I read in my newly obtained "color and light for the realist painter" book was that when you do greens in a painting it is advisable to start out with a pinkish or perhaps red base so as to give it a bit more color variation :)
washka
11-02-2011, 05:41 PM
Woo nice trick, I used some red/brown tones for one of the tree, and it sure pop out more with it, next time I'll use that more.
"splotcher initiate was here" was about the =previous= one (over the doodeling).
On previous post, replace last by previous, it's a language mistake.
I was talking about the color work, my bad.
Some finished (wooo!) new organic look work, I'm already on a second one that's quite different:
Avatar-3DT
11-02-2011, 09:58 PM
I smirked at the one with "I have a good dentist", for some reason the character came in my mind as the nephew of Jabba the Hutt. I like your nude studies, they show a lot of form and good anatomy but they also look like unfinished pieces. I know you like that impresionistic look on your work, but just saying... This last one looks quite detailed. It also looks like something that should stay on the inside :D
washka
11-02-2011, 10:23 PM
Yeah, his nephew by marriage (mother's side). Jabba has a big family.
Not impresionistic but unfinished, that's true. I think I'll make some anatomy study thread in the future.
It also looks like something that should stay on the inside
Err... You got me here Avatar because there is different interpretations I can do from this last sentence and I'm not sure if my idea is da same than yours... :haha:
Don't know why but seems this specimen one is kinda related to some word onto my last barbarian wip...
And don't forget to wash your hands.
Avatar-3DT
12-02-2011, 01:01 AM
Lol, I meant guts and alike but yes, I think you can see it as some kind of alien poop also. One that screams and begs not to be left behind :D
washka
12-02-2011, 08:19 PM
:haha: :haha: :haha:
They're always left behind because when there is sh*t people just run away. And when people do things wrong, or when they don't understand something, they just run away, or blame anything they can. They're just weak, even weaker than sh*t!
(spoiler)
I just heard on some movie trailer (take some serious tone):
"A man with no enemy is no man at all".
OMG, this sentence is so f*cking EnOrMoUs, stupidity can raise such hight level on movie dialogue. How can people be so unbrained to massively like this sh*t.
Do they just =think= about the meaning of those words?
This sentence is completly, definitely, and degeneratively =AmAzIng=.
Declared ***** Homo sapiens cretinus of the year 2011 by me.
Avatar-3DT
12-02-2011, 09:47 PM
Lol, small people need to feel important too. And I don't mean small in the sens of their height :P
washka
13-02-2011, 07:21 PM
There is no such things as small people in this world.
washka
14-02-2011, 07:21 PM
Started with some practice head, and it ended with a caricature of mine when I was young...
( o_O < Sooo self-centered! )
I was young, I was beautifoool, today I'm still fool...
No reference here:
washka
14-02-2011, 07:27 PM
Yeah and I wanted to add some comments for this previous one: I got brown hair and glasses in reality and you'll never see me with a blue T-shirt. And I'm not an angel, really!
=> That was just for fun with da colors.
washka
15-02-2011, 07:48 PM
There is no such things as small people in this world.
But I agree with you about those who think they are Avatar. :)
Should we call it "The disminished syndrom"?
-An old one with new touch (Krab space vessel), I'm still thinking about the city for this lunar one...
-Some new one, conceptual lineage.
-And a bunch of old ones maybe you've never seen, 2008 work principally.
http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/4206/krabw2011.jpg
hulahuga
15-02-2011, 08:23 PM
If you would give that lizard thingy proper elbow anatomy and some more of that high frequency detail it might actually look pretty cool! :)
lunar - well what the heck do as you please gothdammit! XD
Try working a lot with occlusion shadow to make it pop :)
washka
15-02-2011, 09:30 PM
Lizard is from old Myth & Legend Comp'.
What's wrong with da elbow? I used ref from alligator, Komodo, lizards (mix).
Their front legs posture is not the same than mammals, upper part don't go bottom, it goes to the side. (going away from torso horizontally => mamals it's vertically/down).
Avatar-3DT
15-02-2011, 10:35 PM
I really like what you did with that old piece of yours. Just by adding that little module you gave it an entire background story.
And we all are avatars. Embodiments of some idea or moral standing. It just takes a while till we define which one :p
Cordero
16-02-2011, 09:18 AM
bearded dude and the last one in the armor looks excellent!
washka
16-02-2011, 07:48 PM
Avatar-3DT:
I prefer when an image tells a story, way more interesting. And sometimes just a lill' detail can change everything.
About your second thought, I quite agree with it. And I'm not even sure we define anything. The 's' on avatars has multiple meanings.
Cordero, thanks man! This armor one I did was for my school some years ago, one of my first painting work, however it's not the first version. :D
Some quick concept work I wanted to share, some samurai mood (bushido!):
Avatar-3DT
17-02-2011, 06:03 AM
Actually "avatar" has just one single meaning and it comes from hindu. An avatar is an embodiment. From there, it can be an embodiment of a virtue, a moral stand, evil or a virtual embodiment of yourself. And we do define everything, otherwise the words would have no meaning.
Nice work on the concepts. S1 and S2 are not too different. S3 looks good 'tho I think you could vary the concept a bit more by adding bigger armor or spikes or something. The "G" model looks quite different; I think you should push on that.
washka
17-02-2011, 06:47 PM
Agree about your definition of Avatar Avatar, the subject of my first painting contest was avatar (before the movie). I had some nice content and tales reference on the subject.
But what I found interesting, it's that you used plurality, avatars instead of avatar.
My english is quite bad, and I don't even know if you can said: "And we all are avatar." instead of "And we all are avatars." Maybe my mistake, misinterpretation of your words. (You know, avatar problems...)
Thanks for constructive comment about the concept serie.
aby arty
17-02-2011, 07:59 PM
There is no such things as small people in this world.
are you sure did you look under the mushrooms and deep with in the flowers and yeah all the specks on clovers :D
go watch spiderwick chronicles and get a new vision m8
washka
17-02-2011, 09:11 PM
:haha: :haha: :haha:
But a mushroom isn't small?
http://tetinenoire.wordpress.com/2008/12/02/champignon-geant-en-malaisie/
washka
18-02-2011, 05:07 PM
Lazy mood, no serious work those last times:
washka
19-02-2011, 04:56 PM
Small res work, "Da two brothers" (first title was headache):
Avatar-3DT
20-02-2011, 02:01 AM
Maybe just a tad more dark shade around their head so they read better. but this already look sweet :D
ltken84
25-02-2011, 01:26 AM
Pump in a little more details to "the two brothers". Its looking good, put in more life to it! Make it alive :haha:
hulahuga
25-02-2011, 07:25 AM
Nice one! :)
The last one has some nice emotion to it.
Nice to see you are liking the brushes ;P
washka
26-02-2011, 05:53 PM
Avatar and ltken, I'm taking in account your comments and agree with, I'll make thoses changes for next WIP of two brothers, thanks a lot for constructives comments!
Hula, those brushes are also quite interesting for dynamic strokes, can be used like a blur with materia (grain) too:
hulahuga
26-02-2011, 06:24 PM
Wow, this last one really combines a lot of your good elements!
Color, composition and form all work!
Only thing would be the shape of the beak and such, but it isn't aimed at realism... :)
Avatar-3DT
26-02-2011, 09:52 PM
Very nice eagle like bird. If you would have followed with the reds this could have been a phoenix.
washka
28-02-2011, 05:47 PM
When I rework this one, I'll push out a bit more the details where you pointed it out Dr. Hula (Beek, head, +maybe an eye, and some more bird/wing ref).
I first had a crow-like one in greytones Avatar, then when I started colouring the mood was more toward fantasy-like and the phoenix idea got through my head, I even draw a crest, but I prefer to create originality than using made-up stereotype (even if I do), so I'm not totally sure it'll go phoenix even if there is a lot of inspiration from it.
I really wanted to go blue tones, mood, contrast and weight. (But I totally agree with you about the fact that with red tones it could turn to some interesting phoenix)
Thanks giving day from me today, I'm slowly recovering from a bad period, but Hey! We're all phoenix ! ;)
WIP:
Alisor
01-03-2011, 06:42 AM
I like how you captured the movement of the body; nice sketch, the brushstrokes are nice and capture the mood and light.
aby arty
01-03-2011, 06:56 AM
nice updates
so did you watch spiderwick chronicles
hulahuga
01-03-2011, 08:19 AM
Feet need more work right now.. Try to make them sensual and really nail them :)
Also you could work a bit more with those golden tones to make it pop a bit!
washka
02-03-2011, 08:38 PM
Thanks Alisor, and btw welcome to the forum!
aby arty: Not yet but when I put my hand on it, I'll watch it. Thanks for passing by!
hulahuga: Ok boss! (My ref pic hasn't a lot of res on the legs part but I'll be on it for next wip) I always appreciate your constructives comments man, it helps me a lot!
Worked on some concept city that became an old folk, don't ask me how:
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/9995/kingofmanyw2011.jpg
Cordero
03-03-2011, 09:39 AM
the two girls and the samurais are really good.
Love them!
washka
06-03-2011, 05:50 PM
Days like this... Hope no epileptic.
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/8370/unstandw2011.jpg
washka
06-03-2011, 09:38 PM
Version 2:
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/3424/conceptualw2011.jpg
ltken84
07-03-2011, 12:52 AM
Keep going man! I love the two brothers and the blue bird from your latest updates. If you could spend more time polishing both that two piece,im sure its gonna look great. Cant wait to see them stand out more :haha: *paint paint paint*
waheednasir
07-03-2011, 04:34 AM
i like your experimental work and the bold approach.
:).
Avatar-3DT
07-03-2011, 09:50 PM
Lol man, looks like you went into a frenzy here :) The balance is weirdly fitting but it looks like you just let yourself go wild and exploded into your medium :) Keep at it, proves to be looking quite interesting.
hulahuga
08-03-2011, 05:57 AM
If you saturate that and thicken the colors a bit at the browns whilst trying to maintain the cool blues as a secondary light you could actually come out with a way cool and recognizable hallway of sorts...
washka
08-03-2011, 08:59 PM
I'll push out da "Two brothers" ltken84, still got others older dragon wip, but I'll go detailing this one first. Thanks for your support! And by the way, I like and learned a lot from your doodelings! Hope to see more of those in da future from you, when you want to rest from a big work for exemple. :)
waheednasir, coming from you I'm honored, I still got a lot to learn.
Avatar-3DT, as waheednasir you directly understand that I'm trying to explore the limits of the medium, and yes I got frenzy but then I try to calm down a bit and return to some more interpretable one (attachment).
You should try it sometimes, the image is itself full of constructives surprises, I think it's a common point it has with people, I'm saying that with philosophy because the comparison is from a conceptual point of view, I know people aren't images. (Ok, now people will think I'm :crazy:)
Thanks for your comment, you're always welcome on my thread, really! (You and Hula, you've got the golden pass, and the VIP lounge if someday I'm rich and famous, I can dream...)
hulahuga: I want to keep those blue tones, the saturation will come with the shapes, but you've seen the hallway so I'm already happy.
I started with some forest mood, that has given the pillars and the vault, I think I'll push it out to some inner chuch/cathedral place with a big demon surging. (Could also use horn part from 1 as an head)
And setschaos had given to me some interesting interpretation of the "death organon" concept I did, and I pushed his idea a bit further, I'm still blending the snake photo (snake head is aphoto not painting), and I'll paint over, photo I've taken some times ago in a lill' museum.
washka
08-03-2011, 09:02 PM
I liked and 've taken this low quality shot because it was creeeeepy, and I think that snakes are really interesting reptiles (care kids when they bite it's also lethal).
washka
09-03-2011, 06:29 PM
Hi, for those who remember this one, I've been on it again, working the posing using critics and ref, I've mostfully done fixes trying to get a better posing.
I'm still unhappy with head part, I think I'll remake it completly, then I'll go lightning and push details and colors, maybe there will be some background, don't know yet. Thanks for your appreciations.
Miss Mikame
09-03-2011, 10:13 PM
yeah man theres nothing wrong with another try, just repeat until you nail it is my mantra.
washka
09-03-2011, 10:24 PM
That's a good mantra!
Avatar-3DT
10-03-2011, 02:36 AM
Repetition is good so keep at it. Did you used a sword with a real hand inthere or its just me? :D
washka
10-03-2011, 05:19 PM
Yes it's a real/photo hand from real/photo model (nude girl photo top right). Your eye is right.
But It's not a shot I've done, it's from a ref site.
I think I'll paint over it or rebuild, we'll see. Legs of pirate girl => paint over photo ref then somes fixes/rebuild.
Sometimes I paint everything from a ref, building a to z just using my eye (no paint over), sometimes I paint over photo or build over it, sometimes I paint without anything (no ref), memory or creative.
Sometimes I can even morph the photo itself (just photo work). Sometimes I use an handmade sketch that I scan.
Sometimes I use an already made up painting and blend/fix it to some better ref I've and rebuild it (coat hanger technique), I can even completly rebuild in another perspective.
Sometimes I directly sketchpaint from a real photo (printed irl) or still life.
So It really depends, of my mood, the urge or the need, there is plenty of other media use for digital painting, the list I've done is not exhaustive I even use 3D sometimes.
I'm not a big fan of photo direct use, I do not encourage the direct use or do it carefully, or do it for a real photo work or a matte.
I've seen too much deviance of it onto the web and on digital world, but for anatomy I can't afford to pay some real model right now soooo...
But I use photo ref for indirect use, to learn about the image build itself, and I encourage this kind of use even if it will never replace real/still life. My first and really unique tool is my eye (with da brain), the rest is just adaptatives solutions or techniques.
The girl I did a few weeks ago (nude one), is completly build with my eye (and tablet/soft) using a photo ref on my second screen, it's not a painting over in that case, pure comparison work with an artistic touch.
In pure comparison work I can remake the details of a photo, but it's boring it takes time and it's empty of artistic or creative process. I'm not a scanner.
Here's the link to the site ref I used for last one:
http://characterdesigns.com
From photoset 034 Part 2 (menu Archives => Photoset )
They got really nice free ref, anatomy, posing.
washka
10-03-2011, 05:50 PM
WAR SOON!
(seems it'll start friday night)
I've been waiting since 2 weeks...
(I'm not talking about africa/arabic awakening/revolution ones here...we don't completly kill each others in videogame massive web challenge)
Can't the world change peacefully?
Can't people restraint themselves?
Why power should always trample onto people's life?
World is made of minorities, different values, cultures, traditions and principles. Strenght versus compromise an impossible comprehension.
gfxengine
12-03-2011, 04:14 PM
all of your drawings look great man :haha:
washka
16-03-2011, 06:45 PM
Somes colors for "Two brothers", more and details next (but not in immediate future, DW finally started, so I hold this one).
Alisor
16-03-2011, 07:59 PM
Nice picture - I like the way you handle the brushstrokes :) It gives a sense of motion and dynamism to the picture. I think maybe more contrast/stronger colours would make the image stand out more (For "The two brothers") - but I see it is a WIP.
MartinKlekner
06-04-2011, 09:43 PM
wow, you have great style man! some of it looks almost like impressionistic work.
Avatar-3DT
08-04-2011, 02:59 PM
Nice contrast on the "Two brothers" image. You have now clearly cut each character into place. Nicely done.
washka
09-04-2011, 07:48 PM
Thanks MartinKlekner, I really like to use colors, even if the result is not always great, sometimes I'm wrong with tones or I saturate too much, I appreciate the mixes you can get from those.
You have now clearly cut each character into place.
That's because I had your advice Avatar :D, even if I could add a side lightning, thanks for your comment!
I've add a link in first page, but not into da thread itself, but here is my thread for DWV I started a few weeks ago, still got a lot of work for this entry:
http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?t=82669
Avatar-3DT
10-04-2011, 12:48 AM
Glad if I could help :) Passed by your thread; got some good laughs around there, you guys are crazy. Good luck!
washka
23-06-2011, 04:26 PM
2 month offline, due to moving my home... and technical problems.
This war was a lot of fun, and I've learn a lot.
Couldn't attain my own objectives but I'm still happy.
We can't be serious all da time, I think that's why we're crazy Avatar. :D
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/1067/finalhddwvw2011.jpg
Some new more artistic ones:
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/2339/buildingw2011.jpg
washka
23-06-2011, 04:31 PM
A speed chara concept, and a consistant color work.
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/9987/playaw2011.jpg
Kitana
24-06-2011, 08:52 AM
WOW this one just killed me.
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/9987/playaw2011.jpg
Very good.
hulahuga
24-06-2011, 10:19 AM
The crab looks like an evolution of your style, really nice! :)
Glad to have you back again ;)
washka
24-06-2011, 06:16 PM
Thanks Kitana and Hula, This crab is a lightning approach using colours mixing.
It's not a greyscale tonal approach, I'm using cold and hot tones (a bit desaturated) to create the lightning.
The lightning coherence is not perfect, but the illusion is working.
About colours, I did some painting test on another new effect I've been working on, using noise too.
I want to post it but i think it hurts the eye, and maybe it hurts the brain too, honestly medically I don't know.
I can see the effect but I've been asking to 3 different friends and they say they don't see it, so the test is 3 times negative, for one positive.
I want to get more feedback on this test from different people more than 20, I'm a bit colorblind, for me it's not a disease it's just a different point of view on colours.
So Avatar if you pass by: Can I post it onto some closed thread with approbation of the viewer, I do not want to engage my responsability with this image, something like a tag =view at your own risk=.
It's already a second test, I consider the first test a nocive image (was some kind of anaglyph effect, I used anaglyph glasses for it), the second test image is a simple head portrait (basic head with eyes, mouth, nose) but I think the colours effect is nocive, it's a personal point of view, no certainties.
I want a modo greenlight, if I don't get it, I won't post the image.
Is it possible or not?
hulahuga
24-06-2011, 09:16 PM
I've never heard of a mod who prohibited hypnotic imagery ;P
Avatar-3DT
25-06-2011, 07:56 AM
Washka, I'm not sure I really understand what you need but can you can post any image you want. I am a moderator, not a censor, which is a different job :D The difference is that I decide the faith of something AFTER is posted while a censor does that before. So Post your image and we'll see. There have been anaglyph images posted before on this forum.
washka
25-06-2011, 09:18 AM
Ok, I'll make a different thread for it, Avatar. I would have wanted some censorship before, but never mind. Thanks for answer.
Hula, I'm not totally sure but I think some kind of hypnotic imagery can damage the brain, it's a personal opinion. That's why I will use a caution.
hulahuga
25-06-2011, 02:03 PM
Lol... ;P
TekNeek
25-06-2011, 02:27 PM
.. I just simply love your sketchbook dude.
Avatar-3DT
26-06-2011, 10:34 AM
Do post the image man, I think art worths a bit of nausea since I don't think your colorfull image can cause more of that. :D
washka
26-06-2011, 01:45 PM
Lol...
Hula, let me explain it to you. Do you know how to crash a server (site)?
You overflow the services demand or the database access, or just the site access, it's just communication pipeline overflow, you're blocking other signals, when there is too much flow you can't add more, there is a physical limit. If there is calculus, you give operations hard for the service, and it'll ask a lot of calculation and it can block/freeze the process.
Image is a stimulus, you're just catching light waves, just like you catch a butterfly with a net.
Now, the interesting question is, how can you measure the strenght of the image stimulus? :)
-My ear (with the help of my brain) can measure the difference between a strong sound, and a weak one.
-Same for temperature, it's hot, lukewarm or cold, thanks to skin sensors.
-For smell and taste, it can taste or smell a lot, or not much.
-Too much noise will hurt your ear, maybe the brain will be "shoked".
-Too much temperature will burn your skin, and you'll feel pain.
-For smell and taste, there should be similar behaviours.
Same for light, no? Too much light will burn your eye.
Ok, so here I've been talking about "amount", and measure.
Let's talk about limits now:
-For noise, there is dB limits but also frequency ones, dogs,bat... can "hear" frequency I can't.
-About temperature, and pressure too, there is limits for us, and there is animals (ocean grounds, desert, alaska) that go over or under our human limit. We've also got =sensitivity= limits to those kind of stimulus.
I can't feel a lill' pressure change due to meteo, animals can. My sensitivity is limited too.
-About smell and taste, we're sh*t (except with a laboratory and chemistery, and still the procedure is slow), there are insect that can analyse complex molecular groups far better than us, I think there is a physical limit for the amount there and a limit for the sensitivity too (for human.
-About our eyes, we're between IR and UV for light frequency, that's a band limit, and there is a limit to the amount, a limit to the sensitivity, and other limits...
When we catch any kind of stimulus, there is a part of those our brain process, there is autoprocess but also process that use our concentration, depending the stimulus, datatype, concentration, use of memory... there is different brain zone you activate.
Now if I target those zones, using the eye, not with amount, but with complexity or with special patterns that overcharge you concentration.
Your server is down. I could even "burn the disk".
Just ideas, and yes I like sci-fi.
.. I just simply love your sketchbook dude.
Thanks for nice com' TekNeek, you're always welcome!
Do post the image man, I think art worths a bit of nausea since I don't think your colorfull image can cause more of that.
I agree Avatar, but I think a simple image could cause more than a simple nausea (not mines I hope, or just a lill' nausea), it's a personal opinion.
But if it's art, imo it worths a bit too, problem it's that image is not just art. :D
If you're catching 1 gentle butterfly with a net, it's ok, 10 butterflies with the net it's harder for you, but if those butterflies move faster than expected and with patterns you've never seen and you can't follow, you'll become crazy, or you'll just stop.
Just ideas I wanted to share, correct me when I'm wrong or if you don't agree.
Avatar-3DT
26-06-2011, 11:10 PM
I do know the principles of fast changing colors and images causing attacks in people with certain illnesses but usually they have to be moving images. As long as your is a static picture, I don't think you have to worry too much.
hulahuga
27-06-2011, 12:12 PM
Now there is one of the traditional Washka posts that I like ;P
Well yeah, but to actually just have different wavelengths inside our visible spectrum without freaking out to much with the amplitudes shouldnt hurt your eyes overly much. But it is true what you say, however I think it will work more to confuse the eyes and thus as eyes work to track data, proportion and figure in any light then it might hurt a bit... :)
washka
03-07-2011, 03:00 PM
I agree Avatar, those kind of hypnotic effects are far better when the image is moving.
But about static picture, I've still got a doubt, a doubt I could illustrate with this classical kind of illusion (Not mine, I googled it):
http://www.csenergie.qc.ca/st-sauveur/Lucie/Blagues/illusion/Illusion.jpg
So we all agree this kind of image is perfectly static, I'm 100% sure it is.
But does my brain? Who's confused there?
hulahuga, I think that when your eye is too much confused, when the stimulus is hight, the importance of your brain filtering activity goes up, it seems logical but I know nothing about neurology so...
Here is some new image I wanted to share, it's multiple photo blending for face part, then I painted over a bit, still too symetrical, so it's photo/painting work.
I think I could add more details and push out some real lightning to build more volume. Inspired by Alia (Dune, Frank Herbert), spicy!
Hope it won't burn you.
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/6907/spicew2011.jpg
ltken84
03-07-2011, 03:05 PM
Interesting piece washka, reminds me of medusa :haha:Just watch out the eyes and lips since you're painting a female, make it look feminine / bring her feminine out more! Keep going!!
Avatar-3DT
03-07-2011, 10:19 PM
Shouldn't the eyes be blue if inspired by Alia? :D Frank Herbert rules! Great image :)
washka
05-07-2011, 09:58 AM
Shouldn't the eyes be blue if inspired by Alia? Frank Herbert rules! Great image
Yes, it should be, but you know, desert, red light... And I wasn't feeling it for a 100% blue :) , in previous version it was blue-er, I'll add some more, a pinch.
Eyes need more work and mouth too, agree about Itken's.
And I decided, to participate to the Bobby Chiu challenge, couldn't resist, lots of good 2D there, seems a strong community for illustration.
http://cghub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7144
Maybe you remember this one, I did a new version, title is something like "Dream".
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/5917/dreamw2011.jpg
Older version:
Avatar-3DT
05-07-2011, 01:09 PM
You are one psychedelic dude :D
washka
05-07-2011, 02:01 PM
psychedelic?
Coming from you Avatar, I'll take that as a compliment.
You could have said, "washka you're completdly cgrazy!!!", same.
But I would like to clarify that I do not consume any drugs, except some coffee or tea on the morning, images, music, and sometimes a few beers, it's just that I like to mix colors.
On the other side, if I am talking under torture, I will reveal a big addict to color shading with beavers support, do not tempt me. :D
Tonight it's karaoké-barbecue for me!!! :dance: :dance: :dance:
hulahuga
05-07-2011, 02:58 PM
I think your works will get at a lot of attention there actually :)
Looks good with Alia but why not make them the cold teal blue that might look so darn cool ;P
Dream looks great as well, I like how you used the texture in the brushes with the colors :)
washka
05-07-2011, 03:36 PM
Your fault, your brushes. :kiss:
I need to make myself a big serie of custom brushes, already got tons of ideas for those.
Remember this selection I've done a few month ago with your help hula?
Something like 10-12 paintings, I'll upload those because I need a folio/blog for finished artworks, here is the link:
http://louisplanche.over-blog.com/
hulahuga
07-07-2011, 03:02 PM
Haha, I know man ;).
Nice to see man!!! I think though that you should put another pic on top as you enter the page...
You should also in the page have some sort of collected pics thing as well as a presentation page or something to make it a bit more accessable...
washka
07-07-2011, 05:53 PM
Haha, I know man .
Nice to see man!!! I think though that you should put another pic on top as you enter the page...
You should also in the page have some sort of collected pics thing as well as a presentation page or something to make it a bit more accessable...
It's a blog, it's like a thread but posts are reversed.
For the banner I wanted to keep it simple... What's ya thinking about?
If you got a folio I put your link if you put mine.
Nice holiday in spain?
Boost up serie:
washka
07-07-2011, 07:34 PM
Just found this link:
http://www.zbrushcentral.com/showthread.php?t=114935&page=1&pp=15
Sorry, amazing concept so I post it here too, 55 dragons in 28 days, wohohooo, thanks TekNeek.
hulahuga
08-07-2011, 12:59 PM
Oh, well I haven´t gotten one up yet ;)
But yeah, even though you want it simple it would be a good idea to have some easy site navigation... ;)
washka
10-07-2011, 04:40 PM
I'll need some simple sitemap.
So this is an old one I'm boosting up too, lightning coherence and details are next step, here is principally a color/athmos work, no background yet.
http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/2186/robotw2011.jpg
Previous one:
washka
10-07-2011, 04:46 PM
And that's the revenge of the psychedelic beaver, photo overpaint color work, maybe I should add groovy flowers:
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/6002/carw2011.jpg
Avatar-3DT
11-07-2011, 11:31 AM
OMG, the beavers are taking over the world!!!
washka
11-07-2011, 03:32 PM
OMG, the beavers are taking over the world!!!
OMG NO! It can't be possible, those are worst than hamster and cats reunited, what are we gonna do Avatar?
Those rodent with a big tail (and no threedy kilt) are crazy as nuts.
Let's call super-Paulius (or his unfathomable acolyte DD), he will save us all from the terrible threat(d)!
Woow your car painting looks awsome :) I like colors..
aby arty
11-07-2011, 05:11 PM
so washka is gonna paint DD giving wedgies to threedy kilt wearing beavers next :p
washka
11-07-2011, 05:43 PM
I'm not sure wedgies'll be enough aby, even with the powers of Paulius and DD reunited, we could try the famous abydragon punch or...
Maybe we'll have to use "him", so peace can rule again on threedy.
washka
13-07-2011, 07:44 PM
Two new speedpaintings, a color wip for my entry for the "Myth et legends" contest, and a cartoon wip.
hulahuga
14-07-2011, 02:50 PM
The myth and legends looks extremely cool. I would desaturate the background ray as well though ;)
paulius-st
14-07-2011, 08:27 PM
cool paintings. especialy i like the last two. if there were more crosses in the background than it would look more emotional. it would give the painting the "land of lost souls" fealing. and some more cold colour for background to give image more deph and drama. now its all yellow and flat and my eye is looking for more colour variations. and these birds couild be darker cause now they just blend in to the sky. well thats only my opinion :) .
as for the last painting - uber cool :D . lol. thee green cat creatures look way too cute so i just want some in my house :D . i think i could talk my wife in to ceaping few :D .
ceep it up
paulius-st
14-07-2011, 08:36 PM
and forgot to mention this car painting. looks realy cool :) . allready saved it in to my ispiration library :) . as for beavers - you have asked for it. i'll make one in my free time and make it wear a kilt . now i'll work on its concept :D
washka
14-07-2011, 09:12 PM
This myth and legends one is from an old contest of threedy.
I'll take your comments in account for the next steps on this one Hula and Paulius.
Paulius, you've initiated this beavers invasion, we had one on Avatar's erotica, now they're everywhere here on 2D forum section, and with bananas. :dance: :dance: :dance:
If they wear a kilt as Aby pointed, it means they're threedy ones, and if it's the case, we won't stop them anymore... :crazy: Care maybe they could go onto 3D forum section next.
paulius-st
16-07-2011, 10:16 AM
well these beavers are my creations: you know, god created human - i created beavers. we'll see whose a better creator :D .
so as promissed - the blue threedee beaver. only a kilt is missing - left it at home :) . and there is a thought to upload it here as a free .obj file.
well these beavers are my creations: you know, god created human - i created beavers. we'll see whose a better creator :D .
so as promissed - the blue threedee beaver. only a kilt is missing - left it at home :) . and there is a thought to upload it here as a free .obj file.
Heyy this character looks so funny :)
washka
18-07-2011, 08:33 AM
paulius-st your creations have no limits.
Like face expression on this one man, and your toon rendering is good.
Now with a kilt they could conquer the world!!! :dance: :evil: :dance:
[Edit]
They need some hight colored nose, yellow, red or blue?
washka
19-07-2011, 09:55 AM
Wanted to participate to some anatomicae study, need more ref:
hulahuga
20-07-2011, 02:48 PM
Oupps, a bit of perspective fail there, you need to add the legs on the other side as well ;)
washka
20-07-2011, 07:20 PM
They just wanted a profile, but I agree about persp Hula.
I'm too lazy this month, 0% motivation, I wonder why.
hulahuga
20-07-2011, 08:17 PM
Haha, but you can still make it in profile but if you add some volume to it you can up the look quite a lot, really noticed that in a lot of pencil work I did during my vacation :)
aby arty
21-07-2011, 05:09 AM
washka could u share settings of the brush u made that creature with?
washka
21-07-2011, 03:43 PM
Haha, but you can still make it in profile but if you add some volume to it you can up the look quite a lot, really noticed that in a lot of pencil work I did during my vacation :)
I'll make another one with more volume, go scan and post your vacation sketches on your sketchbook :lame:
washka could u share settings of the brush u made that creature with?
Here it is aby, it's a brush from the pack linked by hula a few pages before (So you can dowload it too).
Four important things here (imo): brush shape, size pen pressure, opacity pen pressure and texture.
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/4549/brusho.jpg
washka
25-07-2011, 07:22 PM
If someone remember my "ghost" I did a few month ago?
Here is the boost-up I'm on, still need more work, especially onto the face. And colors tweaking... (I've also been working the version with the hand.)
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/3759/newghostw2011.jpg
Hope you like new version, C&C always welcome.
-For the ones who pass around, if there is an "unachieved" painting I did in previous post you really really like, just point it, and maybe I'll boost it up.
aby arty
26-07-2011, 05:05 PM
^^ stop using softt brushes edges are way to blurred it hurts the eyes.
washka
26-07-2011, 05:57 PM
Thanks for your true comment aby arty, I'll fix that for next version.
Not really the brushes, I did it... I blur my images too much. And in a general way. Face part is overblurry.
But for you, is the center part ok? The lill' "ear" zone, blue/red is blurry or not? What do you think about the colors?
hulahuga
26-07-2011, 07:34 PM
The ear is okay. But I think that the goal for you would be to find out where you should apply the blur in your images. Go use masks more :)
M_Cederstrom
27-07-2011, 03:21 AM
Washka Post 487 is a very intrusting creature, I could almost see it in a Sci-Fi RPG game. I would like to see it with the two other legs if you have time.
polysmooth
27-07-2011, 06:02 PM
Thread is looking good guys...nice color palettes
washka
27-07-2011, 07:00 PM
hula: In fact I'm not applying a blur, it's the technique I use that generate lot's of blur, but with a mask I can localize/control it, I use masks but not each times, so your comment get a point, thanks.
M_C : I'll make it with 4 legs and using references.
polysmooth: Thanks for passing by man, my efforts those last months were with colors.
Some interesting and colored update, tomorrow or after tomorrow.
aby arty
28-07-2011, 06:21 PM
@493 no umm ear is not realy that great and for me the colors are washed out and dizzy all over the place except the cyan in lower left corner.
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