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washka
01-08-2011, 08:23 PM
Thanks for your answer aby, I mixed a lot colors on this one, I'm still working on a technique for colors mixing...with blur.

My after-step version for this one is even worst...so I'm making corrections on it, still unfinished but here is a preview on face part that's quite ok imo.

Some interesting and colored update, tomorrow or after tomorrow.
I shouldn't write things like that when I got another deadline. :hmm:

So here's a savagely colored one.
http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/3629/hutw2011.jpg

A concept landscape, and the face preview:

washka
02-08-2011, 06:13 PM
Two Wip:

-You know I like to remake/rework old painting stuff, so here is an ooooold demon hunter I did in 2007=> I didn't even know what was painting then, tablet was kinda alien for me.

Oh no, is that a beaver again?

-And one of the boost-up serie, same rebuild concept, I shouldn't show you this one because I want it to kick's *ss, but I can't keep the surprise.

hulahuga
02-08-2011, 06:41 PM
I like the volumes, especially on his face. I would like to see some dramatic lightning on that one :)

washka
02-08-2011, 09:41 PM
Agree hula, hard light'll be on his back, and a soft hot one down front.

hulahuga
03-08-2011, 06:20 AM
Great man! You could even have rains splashing on him, that would be extremely cool but quite hard ;)

washka
03-08-2011, 07:46 AM
Oooh, I wanted some kind of luxury palace athmos. But now I understand yours with drama/outside rain. I'm not sure I'll use rain, I think lightning'll be smoothy on this one, with some strong metal/jewel speculars, I think rain'll make it even more blurry. But I should try some rain athmos once, I bet it's quite hard, agree.

hulahuga
03-08-2011, 08:06 AM
Yeah, sounds good :). I think that if you want to do rain the rain in itself is no that hard, the hardest part is making all the splashes, but just use a custom brush or something and i think you'll be all right...

washka
05-08-2011, 06:56 PM
A few new stuff:
(That's version 3 from previous robot paint, just a WIP)
http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/1328/robotbw2011.jpg
Shuttle concept, and a new brush I wanted to test (specimen 02).

hulahuga
05-08-2011, 07:27 PM
The brush looks good when it goes towards black in a greyscale like that, it seems quite long though, limited in that sense perhasp?

washka
05-08-2011, 08:05 PM
Long?

hulahuga
05-08-2011, 08:13 PM
Edit: sounded stupid, but what I meant was that the way you used it gave a nice mechanical structure with the ribbonlike strokes. What I meant by that was that if you only use it like that, and the image itself is extremely long the usage might be a bit limited. However you should try it out some more as it has many opportunities if you play with the brush settings some more... ;)

Avatar-3DT
06-08-2011, 12:51 PM
Lol, Hulahuga man, that sounds so raunchy and wrong! You should be more specific.
And guys, the end is near. Proof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttv-gvOzaPw

Yes, now they are in movies too.

washka
07-08-2011, 08:24 AM
Lol, Hulahuga man, that sounds so raunchy and wrong! You should be more specific.
And guys, the end is near. Proof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttv-gvOzaPw

Yes, now they are in movies too.

:haha: :haha: :haha: That's awesome Avatar!
And they've got an hold on Gibson, I knew it, he was wearing a kilt on braveheart.

hulahuga
07-08-2011, 08:27 AM
Btw, done anything with the fat man yet?

washka
07-08-2011, 04:19 PM
You mean this one? Some tweaks 'n tones, I think that's a start.

washka
08-08-2011, 05:01 PM
A photo of an old stuff I did a few years ago, I think 2008, I did colors corrections because original colors are ugly, it's a sleeping gorgonoid mask (without da snakes hair):

hulahuga
08-08-2011, 05:04 PM
Well that was not the way I pictured you'd do it ;P. Awaiting what you'll do with it :)

The mask looks cool, I dig the lips and how you worked with the curves.

Resenhista
08-08-2011, 05:06 PM
Oh you did some nice coloring into the 3d model from hula =D I still think that the lips are too saturated, and more red in the ear is needed, and maybe darkening the eyelids to show some tiredness should add to the color realism. But is just my opinion ;)

Also, nice design on the mask =D

washka
08-08-2011, 06:12 PM
Well that was not the way I pictured you'd do it
Hula: How did you pictured it then? Can you translate it with words?

I think that I'm going to make some asian triad caid look, with maybe some port/hangar depot background, what do you think?

I think all your comments are right Resenhista, everything you pointed, it means your opinion is good, I'll take it in account for my next version, thanks (oh that's your first one, you're not thanks virgin anymore)!

hulahuga
08-08-2011, 06:30 PM
Ooh, that sounds great! I like the sound of it :). Make sure to nail the lightning!

I actually thought you'd do something in that style or something similar, but with those red lips it looked quite queer ;P

polysmooth
08-08-2011, 09:33 PM
Nice start on the paint over...Lips way to saturated though....could be mistaken for lipstick

washka
11-08-2011, 01:11 PM
I'll desaturate those lips.

Specimen 02 pushed a bit further (brush test), there's still zones that need def, volume/lightning details and tweaking... Conceptual serie.

I've add a lill' station on the background just for fun.

washka
11-08-2011, 01:18 PM
I think that I'll make some big gate from this one...(right part add)

washka
11-08-2011, 07:27 PM
Also advanced a bit on my witch, I'm slowly defining da shapes, but now I've got some nice direction for this one:

hulahuga
12-08-2011, 05:57 AM
Yeah I like the new colors a lot, they really work :)

Kitana
12-08-2011, 07:23 AM
I like the shapes that build her I have seen somewhere this kind of style - really interesting and mosaic.

washka
12-08-2011, 07:39 AM
I have seen somewhere this kind of style

You know kitana, I'm some kind of wampire that sucks a part of a style then digest and absorb it.

Damn blwoody swuckers!

In fact, I'm fan of Amano's art (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yo****aka_Amano) because I'm from the final fantasy generation, and had some good memory inspiration while doing my witch.

M_Cederstrom
12-08-2011, 04:41 PM
Is that going to be a third eye in the middle of the head? you should give her a staff.

polysmooth
12-08-2011, 05:52 PM
Specimen 02- Nice paint! I like the camera bank...nice touch. An idea...I notice most of the shapes are straight lines...how about a pass using all straight lines to clearly define areas and then go back in to add contrast with curves and such...just a thought... nice palette as well.

washka
13-08-2011, 08:26 AM
Is that going to be a third eye in the middle of the head? you should give her a staff.

Yes M_C, as an ornament, and I know you like to add eyes everywhere. :D
I'll be thinking about the staff, or some kind of scepter/weapon.

polysmooth: I understand the pass and I think it's a good idea, it'll clarify the whole thing, and the shapes'll be defined a bit better.


When I paint my outline is always moving, (that's why the result is
quite often blurry), in fact the approach is more with stains than with closed outlines I'm filling.
The way I use lines is just for "cutting" those stains (straight lines selection tool), that's why you're seeing straight lines on the surface.

It may sound stupid but I don't start with the line work, I finish with it.

Now technically using all straight lines to clearly define areas is quite difficult for me, because I always flatten my layers and don't have any outline one, but your thought is good and it's usually the next step I take for this kind of image, it'll be done.

What's a camera bank?

washka
13-08-2011, 02:53 PM
Speedy, "When the smoke clears", ~1h30

Hope that at least someone'll understand this one...

Rych
13-08-2011, 05:01 PM
all I know is that Hydrant is going to get it!

washka
13-08-2011, 05:47 PM
all I know is that Hydrant is going to get it!

:haha: :haha: :haha:

Thanks, that's already half of it.

[Edit]
And today is the private opening of my blog (http://louisplanche.over-blog.com/), it's in french, feel free to let some comment for the painting piece you like even if you've already seen those here on threedy forums. :)

malo
14-08-2011, 06:27 PM
Hey washka,

Thanks for stopping by so often in my thread!!! Highly appreciated, buddy!

You've got some pretty cool stuff running here. Like your imagination and the use of colors.

Keep it up!!!!

:) congrats for your own private blog ;)

Cheers

washka
15-08-2011, 07:42 PM
#531 ==> England trouble events epilogue, wasn't an easy guess?


Thanks malo, keep on your way, improving & sharpening your technique, going on with good stuff especially your environments, like sparth too.

Ghost full:
http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/9151/ghostinconstancew011.jpg

malo
15-08-2011, 07:48 PM
Hey washka,

looking gooood! Nice colors!

Cheers

Avatar-3DT
15-08-2011, 10:02 PM
This is a bit more vivid than your usual colors, yet still very pastel looking. Nice work.

polysmooth
15-08-2011, 10:44 PM
Nice! I' really like "When the Smoke Clears" Nice contrast

hulahuga
16-08-2011, 07:53 AM
Speedy, "When the smoke clears", ~1h30

Hope that at least someone'll understand this one...

Yepp, really nice =). I like the curling blades that break of the straight figure of the character... :)

washka
17-08-2011, 10:20 AM
malo and Avatar: yes I'm still learning with color, I've been working a lot on those there, but I'm quite happy of myself for this one. Thanks for your kind comments.

polysmooth and hula: On this one it's more the polemic, and the context I wanted to traduce:
So it's the end of the urban guerilla there: now people can clean da mess, prisons are full of young offenders. What's this shadow?
A policeman thinking that this big mess is finally over? That he's done his job for justice and against looters and thieves. Is he (or it could be she) happy or desperate? Is revolt the ultimate act of misery? When you've nothing to loose, do you still care? What does represent a police state?
A legitimate order represent the people and protect those, who's the people?
This black shadow also represent death, or some kind of planted blade, hula pointed the curling blade, yes it is, does it means death still want more? Or it relaxes? Waiting for the ax of justice, for the condemn, for the ensuing settling of scores? (The shadow of death still looms) What'll happen to those that've crossed the forbidden and blurry line? So there is some kind of open future there.
And this Hydrant, that quite witnessed everything or nothing, has it been used?
Was the defensive or offensive action from the inhabitant always justified? From the police or others order representative? Who can tell? Is there any judge or any justice in this world that can link together all the true fates of those participating to this big mess?

(...)
I am skeptical, but seems there is some hope when the smoke clears. That's the painting, approximately.

hulahuga
17-08-2011, 12:52 PM
I think it portrays exhaustion, and that is what the pose and the colors and all translated very well in my eyes :).

washka
18-08-2011, 01:26 PM
If you can see that hula, then I think this means your understanding of the image has improved in term of maturity and accuracy, again.
I say that, because it's not easy to see that there, you need more than your eyes.

But hey, do not rest on your laurel! :)

Painting then colors (again), another approach, lizard/reptile stuff'n fun:
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/766/lizardcw2011.jpg

Avatar-3DT
18-08-2011, 06:15 PM
Lol, the montage of the turtle looks very 70's pop art style. I must admit the eye freaks me up a bit, looks like the eye of a dead fish.

washka
18-08-2011, 07:12 PM
I must admit the eye freaks me up a bit, looks like the eye of a dead fish.

Man, really? Nooo...
Omg, am I blind, I didn't even noticed that.
Now that you pointed it out...I must admit that your allusion's got some sense.

Let's call it, "Dead fish's eye" then. :haha: :haha: :haha: , sorry but I was so into the colors stuff that I wasn't paying attention to the reptile's eye. xD

hulahuga
18-08-2011, 08:16 PM
Haha, thanks Washka :).

Well I actually liked the first version before you blackened him out so much (the lizard). But the pop art style as avatar says is really cool. I sense a bit of warhol there (you should really look into his paintings a bit, try to make a bit similar style sometime :)).

KIU!

ltken84
21-08-2011, 03:42 AM
I like how you paint that tortoise Washka! Interesting and its so different from your previous paintings. It looks like a step forward in your illustration :haha: Keep it up mate~!!

washka
24-08-2011, 07:11 PM
Thanks hulahuga, and Itken.

Dr. H: Last time I had seen at warhol's art on a book, I wasn't a big fan, but it doesn't mean that what he did isn't interesting for me.

Even if in a general way I like to experiment on a style because I got some nice inspiration from it, it's the process that I'm trying to understand and rebuild from myself.

I don't know Itken, if it's forward or backward, but yes, seems it's a step. :D

Thanks for passing by guys!


[Edit]
Cuts test:
http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/5912/lizardcutbw2011.jpg

washka
26-08-2011, 11:22 AM
I advanced a bit on my lizard.

[Joke mode: on]
Ah ah ah, I got you there: it was a rhino!!!
Yes, I know, hope you won't be too disapointed by this horrible truth...
[Joke mode: off]

http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/6069/lizardrhinow2011.jpg

I did abused of the rectangle selection tool on this one, my bad,
but don't worry too much I'll clean my mess for the next version, maybe you can already see the mountain, grass, water, sailing and city, yes it's still kinda abstract...

washka
26-08-2011, 03:16 PM
Version 2 of rhino, I've used this photo reference (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31111794@N07/2915173591/):
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/1871/bluerhinow2011.jpg

Avatar-3DT
27-08-2011, 12:33 AM
You got the shapes quite nice. And also a weird impressionist art style going on.

hulahuga
27-08-2011, 07:41 AM
Great style there Washka!!!! =) Love the mixture of colors and the interesting textures and the squarish shapes that clutter the canvas, really nice :)

paulius-st
27-08-2011, 12:33 PM
thumbs up for this rihno. i like how it takes shape from this circus of colours and has this impressionist look.
but for my taste it lacks some funny tutch so i gave it a little of my tutch :D

washka
27-08-2011, 01:32 PM
Thanks Avatar and Hula, I'm trying to play between abstract and characteristical shapes I got from my own inspiration there, still a bit confused but it's better than previous version, no?

The canevas was quite open, you know I like to explode the image, but for next version I'll stabilize the whole thing and go to something more homogeneous, and integrate more identifiable and representative details.

For example, there is some dark triangles on top left corner coming from the mountain, I wonder if I should had some kind flying wings/planes there, what do you think? Can you see those kind of sailboats on the right?

Your corrective tutch add a lot to it! I really appreciate this one paulius, you've make my day, thanks!
I think I'll change my avatar.

hulahuga
27-08-2011, 07:50 PM
Well the forms are better in the second, as well as the detail. but i like the abstract look of the first, they both stand for themselves =) Though I do like the second one a bit better ;)

washka
28-08-2011, 07:12 PM
Blending some more, I will have to get colors and lightning homogeneous later, more fixes...

hulahuga
28-08-2011, 08:22 PM
Neat, eyes and skin look a lot better now. Tee shaping of the lips as well as their color needs more work though :)

washka
29-08-2011, 04:06 PM
Agree Hula, same for eyes, a bit nose, and ears (I forgot those).
For the background maybe I'll make a matte for dock port, you've got suggestions?

And if anybody's got some comments for this one: I always accept those, either way, have a good day:
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/7760/couplefinalw2011.jpg

hulahuga
29-08-2011, 04:50 PM
nr 2!!!

You and a someone...? :)


Regarding fatman, yeah a dock scene would be cool. Don't make it too big though as that will let you down in the end... simplicity might be good. Make it moody and dark =)

washka
29-08-2011, 06:08 PM
You and a someone...?

Not me, was for 3dvirus's friends (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?t=86017).

Copy that for fatman.

washka
30-08-2011, 12:59 PM
Just discovered some fun here (http://jacksonpollock.org/).

[Edit]
WIP, advanced a bit on this one:
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/4223/raisinglordwip2w2011.jpg

washka
02-09-2011, 03:29 PM
Alia WIP 2, changed a bit the mood => wanted some more expressive one, Still lots of fixes/corrections to do, a long way to go.

But now things start to define clearly for this one, so I know where I go and where I should details and make those fixes which is quite encouraging.

There will be some sort of wings on each side of the cap, the red falcon, I'll try to get some malicious eyes and smile.

C&C always appreciated.

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/677/spice2w2011.jpg

hulahuga
02-09-2011, 06:06 PM
Good progress with them both! That site was quite fun, you should check out myPaint... :)

Take care with airbrushing the girl too much, start working out sharpness in her face to make it nice and crips =)

ipranawake
03-09-2011, 01:57 AM
Nice work with the last portrait washka .... but i think it needs more detailing .... the face looks blurred ..... think you need to pain over to sharpen it ... and the fabrics too ....

Avatar-3DT
03-09-2011, 02:23 AM
Gotta agree with ipranawake, the face is too blurry right now and those earrings are way to sharp in comparison with her blurry features. But she does look stunningly beautiful. Keep at it! :)

washka
03-09-2011, 07:49 AM
That site was quite fun, you should check out myPaint...
You can save it? How? The page is quite a mess on my browser.

I'll sharp her face like a knife, still lot of details and overpaint yes.
Earings and mid blue jewel just added lately, those aren't integrated yet, still need to light/shadow those, and some perspective tweaking for blue jewel.

Thanks for your comments hula, ipranawake, and Avatar , those helps me a lot, I'll try to post another WIP for next week for this one.

I got a question: should I add a side lightning/shadows to break the symetry and make volumes pop out more? Or an hard midday top one.
I'm not sure if it'll be a good idea with my homogeneous lightning, in desert light rebound a lot onto the sand ground.

washka
05-09-2011, 06:37 PM
Overpainting a photo of vegetals with colors, I just found that I can go abstract with photo too and use it for another purpose than its own, that's funny. xD
Title's "Birds", maybe there'll be another version, I'm not sure:
http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/1664/birdsw2011.jpg

hulahuga
05-09-2011, 07:20 PM
You could but you don't need to do that... A desert overhead lightning and nailing it right can suffice and look very good as well =)

And yeah, myPaint is a freeware painting program, quite fun but quite simple... Try it out!

malo
05-09-2011, 07:27 PM
Hey washka,
the vegi image is great. Really like your expressive way. Hope to see an update from the lady soon!

Cheers ;)

washka
06-09-2011, 08:49 AM
And yeah, myPaint is a freeware painting program, quite fun but quite simple... Try it out!

xD
That's funny hula, I just found David Revoy is there (Deevad), I had some courses with him some years ago when I was still at school.
He brainwashed us all with his paintings, this b*stard is one person who inspired me to paint more... Grrr!
http://www.davidrevoy.com/index.php?article86/mypaint-needs-your-screenshots
I'll see if I can do something with this open soft.

Thanks malo, I hope too.

Yesterday, I dl some big f*tass pack of brushes (all kind), I have to select from those, I'll try tu upload when I've finished selection, I'll let you know.

washka
06-09-2011, 01:09 PM
Color test with Mypaint, I miss a bit select/transform/scale tool but the brushes are flowing nicely, you can zoom out zoom in but where's memory management, what about your ressources?

washka
07-09-2011, 08:02 PM
One hour speedy, have a gn8:

washka
08-09-2011, 06:10 PM
Other one, (using fractale brush), FF inspiration:

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/4802/chocobow2011.jpg

washka
12-09-2011, 03:25 PM
End part of a strip about a menu, old people and food on resting houses:
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/741/planchew2011.jpg

washka
13-09-2011, 06:40 PM
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washka
15-09-2011, 12:34 PM
2 hours for a (future) wallpaper, sppedy + colors, have a nice day:
http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/4563/chaosw2011.jpg

Avatar-3DT
17-09-2011, 08:34 PM
This last one seems a bit angry. The upper part of the image looks like the jpeg got corrupted while it was saved. The composition seem a bit random, I cannot see a focal point which makes the eye slide across the image, maybe add some lights on the armor to catch the focus? I like the strong brush strokes. You're clearly not afraid to cover your space :)

washka
18-09-2011, 08:46 AM
Yes, I'm a bit angry against digital those days, but I'll be back.
Btw I agree with all your comments, I haven't clean canvas yet, need some serious compo/focus and pointing light, and details.
Thanks for your constructive comm' Avatar, greatly appreciated!

Avatar-3DT
18-09-2011, 10:19 AM
I like the forced perspective on this last one but I think you should decide if you want to focus on the outstretched hand or on the character - both being viable and good choices. This being a future wallpaper I guess it depends if you plan to keep your icons on the left hand side or on the right hand side.

washka
18-09-2011, 02:54 PM
This being a future wallpaper I guess it depends if you plan to keep your icons on the left hand side or on the right hand side.

I wasn't even thinking about that, thanks for tip!

washka
20-09-2011, 05:35 PM
Personal Photo...Texture...Painting
I'll remove black center circle I think it'll be better:
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3203/ambushw2011.jpg

washka
21-09-2011, 03:36 PM
Colors, take a few steps from your screen:

hulahuga
21-09-2011, 06:04 PM
Looks kind of nice from afar actually :).

I would like to see some pastel work from you :smug:

washka
21-09-2011, 07:25 PM
Pastel hula?

=> Got my Alia painting waiting, but at this point it starts to eat my brain and I can't focus seriously, same for my other projects waiting.
Those last weeks, I've been too much onto computer and my brain needs rest.

I think I need some real week holiday without any computers, but I've got another deadline soon and can't go :ugh:.

Hope your back to school was calm.

[Edit]
About post #580 => hope people'll understand it's the same image.

hulahuga
21-09-2011, 08:08 PM
Yeah, with the smooth pastel like colors and the type of strokes you used it would be quite interesting =)

Well I have a math test tomorrow, so not really, a lot of work going on, lots of studying... But it is fun, inspiring to actually do something and a lot more stimulating.

Post 580, yeah, that was quite interesting to see how you found the shapes there and created something from it. Want to see more of that too! :smug:

washka
22-09-2011, 01:50 PM
Hope you've made a good test man!
Math...I did somes at university, that was fun.

Alia WIP, still lot's of fixes'n tweaking, colors are still moving, same for details, but it's fixing slowly:
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/623/wipw2011.jpg

malo
22-09-2011, 02:06 PM
Hey there;)
impressive updates, mate!!
580 and 581 are my favs.
Cheers!

hulahuga
22-09-2011, 02:41 PM
Yeah it went pretty good ;). The final question was written in an extremely wonky way, so almost everyone came to terms with it in different ways... But all is good now I have even more homework to tomorrow but this time in swedish in spanish :wall:

Regarding Alia I think it looks good, but take care with making the composition around her face seem too broad and round and simply act as a frame of sorts for the face. Make sure to make it integral with the face in terms of lightning and values and it will look great :D

washka
22-09-2011, 05:37 PM
Thanks malo! About those there'll be updates but not in the nearest furture.

Hula: Nice. But now with your holiday you speak spanish like an ace. :D
About Alia, volumes and shapes are starting to break out, and thanks for comment about face, I'll take that into account.

The back to school is always a lot of things to do, not for me this year, but I've got friends that're still in school, they like to study too much, but diploma help for da job.

hulahuga
22-09-2011, 07:14 PM
Cheers ;)

Yeah, but now more than most as it is my final high school year and I have ramped up my schedule with the school's hardest courses just since I find them interesting, so I guess I have something in common with those friends of yours ;P

Then it is only at least 4-5 more years of study until I attain my masters degree.

paulius-st
22-09-2011, 10:17 PM
last paintings look great. i liked this pink image that i had to look a few steps from the monitor :) . looks very interesting - something like a sea of colour :) . as for this girl portrait - she looks better every time :) . ceep it up :)

washka
23-09-2011, 08:20 PM
hulahuga: You're still young man but don't forget to profit from it a bit, you learn all your life, in school or outside from it, don't worry about that.
But if you've got interesting courses, learn what you can!

last paintings look great. i liked this pink image that i had to look a few steps from the monitor . looks very interesting - something like a sea of colour . as for this girl portrait - she looks better every time . ceep it up


Thanks paulius! If someday I build a pool, or a jacuzzi, or I can't but someone ask me to paint his pool, hotel or I don't know what. I'll paint this one on its wall, and add another one with orange/yellow tones for sun and sand, so you'll get an holiday tropical, warm and lazy feeling.

You remember this one? I've made part 2:
(Yes I know it was in nov 2010 and we're in sept 2011, I've got Flash's skills!)

malo
23-09-2011, 08:29 PM
AHHH - WASHKA!!!
LOVE IT. Those panels will be definitely on my wall in my office (hope thats ok) ;)

hulahuga
23-09-2011, 08:42 PM
;P

But I like studying for the most part so it is okay!

Avatar-3DT
24-09-2011, 07:47 AM
Lol, nice one washka. Maybe you should do more of these.

washka
24-09-2011, 07:10 PM
Thanks malo, glad you appreciate it, no problem for the wall.

Hula here's some story: during my life after doing lots of efforts in studying and gaining nothing from it I started new studies while challenging my first gains, but then I had quite the same results.
The worst thing in da story it's that I'm not totally stupid

But I made my own judgements (sometimes my own judgements change, disapear, or get better) and from those here's one of it: all this knowledge other people'll put, try to or want to, into your brain, or technique or rules or whatever, sometimes it's near the truth, sometimes it's usefull, sometimes it'll give you a better understanding of something, but more than half of the time it's bullsh*t, but bullsh*t with some importance or use I can't deny that.
Sometimes it's good to eat some bullsh*t, I use those everyday with their own limitations. I won't even talk about good or bad bullsh*t because this kind of opinion differs from one person to another.

The big thing is quite simple imo, that was the lesson for me, there is no such thing as absolutes truths in this world, apart into the numb brain of the idealistic man or the fool. But aren't we all just fools? :haha:
But don't worry people I continue to learn some interesting bullsh*t everyday, but I hope you'll excuse me if I get tired sometimes. :lame:

Avatar: Yes, I was thinking the same thing, still got comic waiting.

hulahuga
25-09-2011, 08:43 AM
Yeah, I completely understand that ;) But that's why I study subjects that are a bit more hard-coded in a way or ones that able you to draw your own conclusions and make your own analysis. :D

washka
27-09-2011, 10:35 AM
DW revisited.

Take it as a wip, colors'll change, need more depth and volumes, details/elements and they're not grounded enough.
Maybe I'll unbuild/rebuild it. C&C always appreciated, have a nice day.
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/8030/remakestrenghtw2011.jpg

Avatar-3DT
27-09-2011, 11:33 AM
Seems like the central character is your focus point but right now he's as blurry as his companions. Maybe add bit more sharper features to his face, some light to attract the eye towards him. Some run lines on the ground would help too.

hulahuga
27-09-2011, 06:51 PM
Now that palette looks very interesting indeed, really dig the new style. The light on the ground also looks quite interesting and I think you could develop that further :)

washka
28-09-2011, 08:24 AM
Avatar: I had focus onto back blue mountain...:haha:
Yes center chara need details for more focus, I'm starting details.

About run lines that's a good idea, I had somes but erased those to get an homogeneous ground while I was tweaking the composition...but I'll replace those. I think that I could add in front ground somes blacks rocks or magma thingie...? Then go ice storm into in the back?
Maybe I should ask puckducker's ref...

I'm also thinking about horns for center chara, I'm still not decided.

The light on the ground also looks quite interesting and I think you could develop that further

Yes hula, I want to get some active shadows there on the front ground with a frontal counter lightning, the spot is definitely on their back but I'm working more with the lights because I want something to make those pop out even more (volume).

Black silhouette with some details on top of it is not enough imo, I'm seeing too much of this kind of paintings those last years and I feel a bit bored. (Even when I paint those)

But I've got your golden eyes guys, none pointed the shadow I've forget for the chain...:lame: I think I'll keep this one without shadows.

Some preview for another work I'm on (colored conceptual), yes it's still very blurry.
I think title'll be "Bold", I'll erase "Out of perspective".
Trying to clearly define something there is quite useless because it's 80% abstract, everybody'll get a personal approach, but feel free to share your approach or comments about it, better take a step from the screen:
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/4493/boldw2011.jpg

Kitana
28-09-2011, 08:51 AM
I can't understand what is the last one but the one before it is nice - I like the colors and the painting feeling and you could make the center creature bigger and maybe near to us... and the pair with him to be further like he is some kind of master that they follow :)

hulahuga
28-09-2011, 09:47 AM
Well I thought the chain looked odd but I didn't say anything because it was a wip and the rest looks so perty ;P

paulius-st
28-09-2011, 09:27 PM
happy to see you sitting again on your dom war entrie :) . you know, i liked the disco club dj tiesto version of it:dance:.

washka
29-09-2011, 06:47 PM
Kitana: I fought a lot to get this kind of composition's equilibrium, was kinda hard for me but I understand your comments's point. I wanted to get two impressive dragon-beasts on each sides, so if I change again... But I'll try, I don't promess anything.

Hula: perty mean?

I'll remake the disco one then paulius, separated from this one and in a more funky version but you'll have to wait a few years because first I want to learn more about anatomy. But I won't forget it!

hulahuga
30-09-2011, 07:35 AM
Perty is a funky form of pretty :)

washka
30-09-2011, 06:25 PM
blou43RE: I ain't 100% sure it's "art"... So what do you dislike? Everything? Please tell!

I know my technique is quite weak and my tastes are kinda ugly, hopefully not always (I hope that)...

hula: Thanks man! We'll see what I can do with this one.

do you know about that
anyone know about that something else ?
Degenrr: the otherwise thingie or the unreachable truth?

washka
30-09-2011, 06:57 PM
I agree, even if some questions are answers and other ones are made to get precisions or to clarify a point of view.


So here's my answers because I think you asked me two questions there and maybe three, so I'll try to answer as I can:

do you know about that
-I won't pretend to anything.
anyone know about that something else ?
-If I can see that something else, I can just see or sense a shape beyond the mist, sometimes I'm just wondering if it's an illusion.
But yes, I think it's there and I can just hope somes people know about it too, you can't show everything.

washka
01-10-2011, 07:20 PM
Hi, lill' wip for my last color work and a preview of where I'm now, I'm still unsatisfied but I think I'm in da good way...or hope so.
It's mostfully a colored lightning work, shapes and blur aren't quite important for me right now.

http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/1759/wipcw2011.jpg

And a lill' speedy golem "tag" onto a photo of some kind of marble wall.
It's not a real tag, it's a painted one, so I tag photo, so it's a photo tag, so yes it's a tag...or no? I vote yes.

Avatar-3DT
02-10-2011, 10:31 AM
Damn man, you guys abused me so much I see a dead beaver in your w.i.p. Looks like the little b@st@rd was run over by a car and has half of it missing.
The golem was a cool idea. I see shapes of faces and creatures in the cracks and bumps of the walls all the time.

washka
02-10-2011, 10:44 AM
Beavers are cartoons chara Avatar, they never get cut!!! And they're unkillable. And if they :wall: they're just :hurt:.

It's really interesting how the brain create comparisons from abstract shapes.

With this kind of messy pack, with some imagination I could make what I want from it, but it has to be something going with the whole abstract athmosphere, because it's those colors who'll give me inspiration.
Anything, I swear, but it has to fit with the whole athmos (of last preview piece).

What's interesting too, it's how those grey tones diffuse the light around (last preview piece).

washka
04-10-2011, 04:28 PM
Speedy and WIP from today:
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/4230/azwipw2011.jpg

[Edit]
Also wanted to share with you this image from the ALMA network (astronomy) I've just found.
http://www.futura-sciences.com/uploads/tx_oxcsfutura/galaxieAntennes_premsImagesALMA_sept2011.jpg
And wanted to make some comparison with my last color work.

See Avatar this "organic" feeling is not completly my bad, the color mixing and the blur is quite responsible too.
And you can't prove anything between me and the beaver invasion!!! :D

polysmooth
04-10-2011, 05:29 PM
Nice! Love this last one! Seems like there is something terrible inside that door...

washka
05-10-2011, 05:55 AM
Thanks man! Yes, seems so.
Have you played counter-strike? You know this half life mode game (valve).
There was a map there.

aby arty
05-10-2011, 06:16 PM
@#612 : 00 looks promosing as i see a water dragon or a clockworks zombie in metalic blue there.

01-03 are pretty much same coz the bottom resembles a mother duck wth her ducklings in a pond.
if we try to seperate then
01 could be a battle in the void ,
02: hmmm an interpretation of archeopatryx , a worm planet's temple structures, and a lil vaguely sea monsters.
03:a gel in between steam punk and wierd sized vegitation.
thats what i noticed when i looked at them but definitely the duck family is very prominent.
a question arises here are duck your beavers? :D


and as for phototag , it looks as if our werebunny washka was snapped taking a buble bath :D

washka
05-10-2011, 06:37 PM
I've advanced onto this one and I'm fixed on title (something about leaf and autumn). It still needs somes lill' fixes but this is quite what the final version will looks like, so here's a second preview.
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/1750/preview2w2011.jpg

hulahuga
05-10-2011, 06:40 PM
Looks like an alien holding a gun gangsta grip about to shoot you ;P

aby arty
05-10-2011, 07:21 PM
^^ what i find even more prominent is giant squigly worm life forms swirling to make symbols so zoom out :p

ijust looked more closely i broke the image in 3 parts dont know if u like it.
bottom part appears to me like a horrifying sea monster developing in depths now active

the middle creature is our hero's friend the hero and the gang are in its mouth.

the top most fishy like appearance is a legend ,who has appeared at this very movement to save the hero and others.

i have done a marking over the image to explain how i percieved it.i hope u dont mind.

cheers

washka
05-10-2011, 08:32 PM
aby arty: Man, I've understand all the elements of your scene, and what I can say it's that it's a 5 stars epic one. I can add that you're quite talented to create a scenery and describe it. It's quite a big job for comedy or magic shows, theaters, movie production...the staging work is an important part for those.

What's also interesting it's that the basic shapes and the symbolics you've identified are quite the same than my own ones (even if the inside meanings are superficially differents, mean it's just another form with quite the same meaning than yours).

From abstract to conceptual ideas and to finally real meaning/defined representation, there is a few steps.
But I think this idea of a common quite mid-abstract mid-conceptual symbolic pool we all share has some sense and here the colors are participating to it.

Nope I really don't mind the marking onto my images for this kind of explanations, they're welcome and it helps me a lot.
Thanks for your own interpretations aby arty, I really appreciate those!
(And thanks for werebunny too, I remember this one. :))

Looks like an alien holding a gun gangsta grip about to shoot you
This "gun" you've interpreted hula is not far from the "the middle creature is our hero's friend" of aby.

Here's a possible explanation:
This worm thingie on the center part seems "threatening" on a first level but on a second one I think it can either be seen as defensive or offensive.
I think the way you'll see it, either provocative or just intimidating'll depend of your personality or maybe your emotional state when you look at it. Just a small question: Are you left handed hula?

hulahuga
06-10-2011, 05:48 AM
Nope ;)


Aight here is what I saw...

washka
06-10-2011, 08:04 AM
Too bad for me, I had the hypothesis that the "holding" stuff was related to psychomotricity, but I was wrong.

Then hula, maybe it means you've been playing lot's of FPS lately...or you've seen an Al Pacino movie? :haha: :haha: :haha:

Thanks for your sketch over, I had already deducted/build/imagined yours gangsta approach because your interpretation was quite clear with your words, It's a nice one too!

If you look your paintover and you compare it to aby's (and If I do I'll outline the same way):
-We decompose the basic shapes/volumes that seems the most identifiable (it seems quite logical imo), then
-We deduct from those and their pattern a bunch of relationships to obtain some kind of meaning we can "rely" on.
Dynamics and overall or internal relationships participate too (exemple of the big eye, or tonal difference between top and bottom: light/dark).

For exemple aby used the word "fishy" to describe the top volumes part.
I think he established this meaning because the shapes there are quite round and there is an edge that's (in his way) like an operculum.
Considering the outline, the big eye and the colors, and his words I can easily see his fish. I think that with those explanation everybody can see it too. (Correction: I think aby won't take the big eye for the fish's, I do, just show that with his feedback there can still be divergences, but into this kind of mess...)

Aby feel free to correct me. Without your words, I won't have seen the fish.

About the fact that the "alien" is "about to shoot you" hula (Not my own interpretation but I'll use your words) I think this threatening "offensive" attitude could be explained in part by two things:
-We can identify three eyes, it's the biggest one, so I think proportions (and same for volume) are playing the main role there.

-The big eye belongs to the biggest volume, and the big volume's in the top middle part of the image, so the position seems quite dominant from the viewer's point. Maybe a perspective anchorage (low-angle view).

Just hypothesis. What do you think about that?

After a decomposition we're comparing the different elements, but the identify is it before, after or during the comparison? I think before or maybe in parallel. I should read somes books about the way we build images.

What impress me a bit, it's this kind of number "5" on top left. It's an artifact from my unstable workflow but It's quite clearly identifiable imo.
(I'm asking myself "wtf???", "how?")
The big "?" is quite interesting too. (your "swirling", "hair")
It add even more to the whole incertitude of the painting, it's quite amazing because it just comes from abstract.
But I think there's a lot that can comes from abstract, just depends of point of view.

Another question about your interpretation hula, if you don't mind?

First the big head part then holding then gun?
Or gun comes before holding?

aby arty
06-10-2011, 01:36 PM
@washka why i found the fish ? coz the way i thought it was jumping out of the water. and alsoit resembles pokemon kyogre somehow for me.(maybe i hav seen a nameless fish in another anime and that resembles more but the tail reminds me of pokemon kyogre.

the little worm heroes vessel, appeared to me like tsunade's summon slug princess


the bottom part was confusing , at frst i thought its big wave tunnle that people surf through then i caught the eye, and a scary dolll like head shape lying on the ocean floor .... wth some wierd appendages and membranes.

at frst when i read hulas take on it , i dint get it , i joined all three shapes and made out a single monster instead wch was very wierd.
i think iam still left behind to find a gun in hulas perception and may be a few more things lol need vision training


iamattaching 3 breakups of my previous perception wth few more mark ups hope it sends forth a clear picture about what ifound hidden in your swirls.

washka
06-10-2011, 07:13 PM
Thanks for the breakups aby, yes I've understand your perception onto this one. About hula's gun, it's the eye of your worm vessel pointed to you, the hand is just under the mouth (that's a quite confused zone).
[Edit]
I was thinking about ribs too (for down part) when painting it, cocoon seems to be some organical mix for me, tongue, hearth and maybe more... quite weird part imo.

So I've extracted the big worm, (and used biggest round volume to continue the tail) this one was quite defined already.
I've add two chara, an hero and a megalomaniac duck. (Just for fun) Hope you like it!
(Maybe this one could be directing the beaver invasion, but my source ain't so reliable...maybe Avatar know more than me about that)

I'll try to extract da fish for another time.

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/7433/wormw2011.jpg

malo
06-10-2011, 07:19 PM
WOW!! Interesting composition, mate!
It always a great time watching your work! There are lots of things happen and my eye curving around your images!
moar pls;)

aby arty
06-10-2011, 07:22 PM
tee hee washka thats really funny... maybe the duck is blind and doesnt know where its placed.:D

btw u seriously need to think about what i said earlier... for you ducks are beavers lol theyjust appear in ur image or they hypno u into making them.:D

washka
06-10-2011, 07:46 PM
Thanks for your comment malo. Care with those colors, when you watch those too much I think they're kinda hypnotic. I like curved dynamics too much...

aby: This duck want to conquer the universe and he's looking to his glorious illusory armies of the mist, somes pretend he's worst than dark vador.

Maybe that's it, he hypnotized me!!!
Wait...but...But you say he's blind! :haha: :haha: :haha: Thanks man!

aby arty
06-10-2011, 08:25 PM
haha he used the twirly candy to daze you lol or he might have got his hands on doc's kaliedogoggles!!:D

washka
06-10-2011, 08:27 PM
It's funny because I had this swirly candy into my mind too, this "?" seems kinda sweet, a diabetic nightmare maybe. xD

washka
07-10-2011, 11:05 PM
Alley for challenge, quite classical perspective, need real lightning and more details:
http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/6614/aztec2w2011.jpg

malo
08-10-2011, 07:45 AM
Hey washka,
looking good so far. Reminds me a bit of some Giger work - but more colorful.
Hope to see the next step soon :)

Cheers

washka
08-10-2011, 09:41 AM
Thanks man, I hope I can get enough motivation to finish this one.


[Edit]
And lill' armored horse ideas paintover (over the photo ref):

aby arty
08-10-2011, 07:12 PM
ooh ooh ill put down what isee again:)
left corner looks like alien troop docking capsules array
then most of the part surrounding them looks like my moms designer glasses iam drinking out of. :)
right corner shows a stone tablet
and on top a lil off the centre theres a projecto kinda device mounted.

washka
08-10-2011, 09:35 PM
On this one it was quite easy aby, you're right for all.
The projecto can also be an upper closed deck with some people in.

Your mom designs glasses, or she got designer glasses?

With this kind of color, I would put a banana milkshake in. :dance:

washka
09-10-2011, 11:44 AM
Today I did some other alleyway because first one was kinda boring, same kind of perspective.
I've build it from an old conceptual (see in attachment the lill' image).
Title is "The cauldron", maybe I'll add colors and other stuff on it someday.

I've also advanced on another black and white work (old stuff too).
C&C always appreciated, have a good sunday.

http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/1809/cauldronw2011.jpg

Avatar-3DT
10-10-2011, 12:58 AM
The first looks like an organic bridge or ship. Very nice, dramatic angle and perspective. The second it seems like on a building or a city view but the perspective is pretty messed up and I can't quite figure it out. The thumbnail creature looks cool.

washka
10-10-2011, 01:04 PM
Yes there's three different perspectives onto last one Avatar, the image's broken into three parts, it's still a rough sketch, quite messed up so far, yes.

About first one I had good motivation and workflow for it, but there's still messy zones.
Your bridge had something from subway or train station for me, seems there's some inspiration from an assembly line/chain workers too.
I also did a pyramid on the background (Had a few triangles there). Cultural civilization, reigns supreme, social hierarchy, time, life and death, the pyramid symbolic contains lot's of stuff.

There is a lot of interesting concepts coming from this cauldron, from mold to cannibalistic with some slavery, seems it's a nice pot of ideas imo, and the questionning can take opposed approaches.
Maybe I'll add some kind of hippodrome horse racing on left side and a public on top right zone (above the dock) with some binoculars. :lame:

washka
11-10-2011, 02:41 PM
After cooking, let's make some geometry:

http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/21/mw2011.jpg

aby arty
11-10-2011, 06:48 PM
^^uncovered alien lady and her dodo :D

thats what i see lol

looking interesting lets see how you take this further.

washka
12-10-2011, 10:35 AM
^^uncovered alien lady and her dodo :D

thats what i see lol

looking interesting lets see how you take this further.

What's a dodo? (bird? child? puppet?)
A lady? Why a lady?

And you want me to take this °further°? :eek: :hmm: :eek: :hmm: :eek:

O_O <:max:

This one is not a speedie, a bit less than a day of work there, even if I'm slow.
I'll think about it aby... After this one my brain was already like a volcano dripping magma...I'll try.

Thanks a lot for your sensitive comment and your encouragement!!! That's what I like in your comments aby, and you don't fear to go a step further even if sometimes going back is good too, I always greatly appreciate those.

aby arty
12-10-2011, 12:26 PM
why not further you could show full excavation with crew and scientists on hover discs :)

and by dodo i meant a band to tie the hair , that infinity knot looked like one to me

washka
12-10-2011, 02:05 PM
why not further you could show full excavation with crew and scientists on hover discs :)

and by dodo i meant a band to tie the hair , that infinity knot looked like one to me

That's an idea. About the knot I was inspired by the moebius strip that's got some interesting concepts close enough from those of symetry transforms of onto a 3D space (perspective).

washka
13-10-2011, 11:25 AM
So I've taken it a bit further and found some interesting stuff.

On my last image M, I was playing with perspective, trying to separate different ones and playing with their rules, it's some kind of geometric illusion, quite messy but it doesn't really matter because the objective was the break down, at the end I've reassemble a good part of it.
So the main rule for M was tear apart perspective, and play with it in different directions.

Here's a second image, I've made it from M, I've started with some kind of patchwork assembly, using M and copied pieces from M.
The main rule there was: try to blend all of those together, try to get some homogeneity between those pieces. (Quite opposite rule than M)

I've worked a lot onto small and medium zones, blending, comparing dynamics and try to fuse those, like a big puzzle.
When I paint like that I usually go into autopilot mode.
The rule was: blend the pieces, but those have got differents perspectives, so in fact what I did was blending the perspectives with new dynamics, because that's what the pieces contained (perspective).
The container with an inner concept here's quite interesting.

So after an half hour, what I see it's that I'm slowly tending to a main perspective, working on the globality of the image, (not just onto a small or a medium zone), I was a bit surprised.
I think I already had some kind of messy global persp when I started to blend my patchwork, but subconsciously.
So blending on autopilot mode on local zone, my brain was trying to integrate a whole perspective, a main one from all the scattered ones, small seeds to a big seed.

I think this kind of integration I subconsciously did, and it shows the brain can make some amazing interpolation calculus, was just because of the main rule I decided to follow "blend it all" or "resolve your puzzle".

The image isn't finished but my personal conclusion here's that in this kind of building case, the brain'll subconsciouly try to align the whole messy image composed by persp pieces to a global persp rule, I also think it's maybe quite instinctive.
What an amazing machine we got there behind the eyes. :haha:

http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/5367/m2w2011.jpg

Here's also some details from M:

aby arty
13-10-2011, 12:45 PM
@washka lady because it appeared to me as the species movie creature.

ill attach a mark over to clarify what i made out of the frst image.

it either could be alien design of predator like origin , or it can be transformer like life form or a mecha another alien is controlling.


i see it as a recently uncovered mecha/alien and only the torso is showing
the portion i labeled c resembles iron mans centre cotraption for me.

d appears like an eye but it could be exhaust vents.

e gives the feeling of a glass cabin so it could be the cockpit.


what i label as head theres an appendage coming out of it , it could either the alien's hand coming out or it could be the mechas tounge wch attacks as well.

i percieve this mecha body to be made of copper pipes and stuff it coiuld be alien metal similar to that too.

about the latest images i see u have flattened out the body relief and detailling lots of specks and corners.

but i am getting dizzy seeing it too much so ill take a break and get back to you when i can read it thoroughly.

washka
13-10-2011, 07:05 PM
Thanks for your input aby, I'll think about this torso.

Last image is just messy, I've post it as a WIP but it's just some exercice I'm on right now, ain't finished.
You'd better stay out of this one because there's still some big amount of chaotic data there that I haven't cleaned yet, and you'll get a headache.
Our brain don't like too much images with a big amount of chaotic data...in any case not onto this form, because it has to "compute" too much...

In other kind of forms, it's "quite okay", but if someday you've some time to waste in some part of America, ask Hollywood blockbusters experts directors why their big FX movies (with lot's of explosions all around, fast and hard action all around) work so well...ask them what's "brainwashing", stimulated fascination, or excessive brain data input, and above all the consequences on you... ;P (joke, or ok mid-joke)


Today I was thinking about the fish you told me about with your analysis on my last color work, I liked the idea so here's what I got so far, I'll add more details next time, and some caustic maybe.

After the guardian worm, caution, we've got the "golden god": the candy fish:
http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/5924/candyfishw2011.jpg

aby arty
13-10-2011, 07:11 PM
tee hee after changing this looks a lot bigger and fishy :D
does it drool maple syrup or just caramel ?:p

washka
13-10-2011, 07:49 PM
tee hee after changing this looks a lot bigger and fishy :D
does it drool maple syrup or just caramel ?:p

Don't know yet, still got to paint this zone. Surprise!

polysmooth
13-10-2011, 08:16 PM
Nice work on the alleys!

washka
13-10-2011, 08:21 PM
Thanks polysmooth, hope you'll show yours one of this days.

washka
16-10-2011, 07:15 PM
Did some more touches onto this one, with my 21' screen the image fuse better at approximately 3 meters.
http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/1592/boat2w2011.jpg

washka
18-10-2011, 06:26 PM
If somes of you remember my scorched one (yes it has been a while), I've advanced a bit on it, slowly taking shape, It'll be some kind of scorched beast warrior which dips.

http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?t=72662&page=24
post #350 (~ 303 post ago...)

It's still a wip (still unfinished zones that needs more works/lightning/colors/details/ corrections...) but constructives comments are still welcome, I'll size up top feline head.

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/1975/scorchedwip2w2011.jpg

Sometimes I'm asking myself if there's a limit...and I feel tired.

washka
19-10-2011, 05:55 PM
It won't eat you, it's just a painting!

Avatar-3DT
19-10-2011, 10:19 PM
Nice work on the last one washka. I think you should break the symmetry a bit, maybe squint an eye or some such.

washka
20-10-2011, 07:44 AM
You're right, the squint is not a bad idea but I want to keep the intensity of those eyes, I'll add a scar then, and I'll try to find other means to break da symetry. Thanks for constructive comment Avatar.

washka
24-10-2011, 08:09 PM
A preview I wanted to share for a personal work, it's quite hard to guess what's it because it's a smallpiece, comments are useless so far, better keep your guess. ;)
I've already defined all da shapes and the painting result, maybe I'll post the work this week or next one. Black and white.

malo
24-10-2011, 08:24 PM
Hey washka - love post #653.
Maybe add a bit of a wing/paw to the left front side. That will frame the face a bit more…
just my humble opinion;)
Best and I'm curious about your next take on the black and white one;)

washka
24-10-2011, 10:06 PM
malo: I already started a wing there, but I've understood your framing point, don't worry I still have some work on left shoulder that'll frame the whole thing (I hope so), but if it's not enough: pointing it'll be greatly appreciated.

Thanks for you opinion, I ain't sure there's any need to be humble here because we're all learning and getting constructives comments from any kind of level and from everybody.

In addition to that I personally think that an opinion is an opinion and it has value when it's constructive so why being humble, or maybe I miss some point?
If I'm doing sh*t I would prefer that somebody say to me: "Hey man, you're doing sh*t!" than "Ohh, nicez!", see what I mean?

And on my thread there is a special rule: you can be arrogant and crazy (ask Avatar). You can even paintover or add beavers. :D

Avatar-3DT
25-10-2011, 01:21 PM
Yeah man, just go bonkers and release the beavers!

washka
27-10-2011, 01:57 PM
Another preview and some updates from Cauldron one and a colored robot I did a few month ago (deconstructive+injection). C&C always appreciated.
Big sized ones today, it's beaver party.

http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/7809/sprev2w2011.jpg
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http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/264/cauldronrevisitedw2011.jpg
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http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/444/robotew2011.jpg

TDW
27-10-2011, 06:11 PM
Impressive collection of pictures you have here. I envy how loose your brush strokes are and it still does look kickass. Anytime I tried that it ended up looking like a pot chili con carne.

Guess I should have a pause from 3D modeling soon and train my lousy painting skills. :roll:


TDW;)

washka
27-10-2011, 07:16 PM
Impressive collection of pictures you have here. I envy how loose your brush strokes are and it still does look kickass. Anytime I tried that it ended up looking like a pot chili con carne.

Guess I should have a pause from 3D modeling soon and train my lousy painting skills. :roll:


TDW;)

Thanks for your nice comment TDW!
A chili con carne is still hot.

How can you kickass?
The image with the lill' duck mean that people shouldn't care about =what= kickass or =how= to, because they already kickass, the rest is hard work.
I think that's one of the biggest truth in this world that can lead to happiness.
The other one may be that kickassing alone is f*cking boring and useless, so the second question may be:
What are you kickassing for? But care that the answer may lead you to the first question again.
:haha:
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If you really like what you do, you can make marvellous things, if you don't: use your eraser and take a breath!

TDW
28-10-2011, 07:54 AM
Well, everyone of us has different reasons for presenting their artworks in an open place like this forum. Looking for advice, trying to get feedback, gathering ideas or kick ass. I fear I'm the latter one, not good enough yet, but I'm on my way! :evil:


TDW;)

washka
28-10-2011, 03:18 PM
If you're on your way, that's good!
Now that you're onto this kind of second question we're all when we're on our way (I think), there's always a direction problem, I usually try this one:

1) gathering ideas
2) trying to get feedback
3) repeat 1) and 2) with a large productive effort until
4) it (maybe & under a large consensus) goes to a result that "kicks ass".

My weak point is n° 3), it's quite important just like n°2). I've no problems with n°1).

In my simple logic I put the "kick ass" at the end, but see, it's more a result than a reason for me, I've just a different opinion there but I understand yours, don't "fear" your way.

The duck turns its back on death, he doesn't wait in da fear, he just lives.
That's for a part of the lill' story on post #658. ;)

washka
01-11-2011, 07:24 PM
Lill' up, it's some kind of sarcophagus, still zones I've to work on.
I've already got the story behind it and'll explain it later, c&c always... Seeya.
http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/3342/sarcophaguswipw2011.jpg

washka
03-11-2011, 07:18 PM
No structured work, I just let off steam with colors.
Here's a lill' abstract story, the gif is quite slow and it doesn't loop.


http://s7.postimage.org/sks3arf3t/Abstract_Story_W2011.gif

And two different colors paint from it:
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg853/scaled.php?server=853&filename=wkw2011.jpg&res=medium

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/1380/gkw2011.jpg

washka
03-11-2011, 07:32 PM
And I pushed out the second one, fusing colors, care your eyes (hope you're not epileptic):

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/3864/w2011h.jpg

Avatar-3DT
04-11-2011, 08:20 AM
Might be my raging fever and the cold that has been plaguing me for days but this makes me think about lemons. And its not only the color, its the texture too.

washka
04-11-2011, 09:04 AM
Lemons contain vitamine C that's good medicine when you've got a cold. :D


Mechanistic of this image isn't far from #649 (~1,5 meter on fullscreen is enough here), it won't appear at first view, you've to wait the printing of colors on your cones and the intensification/fusion of those.
It's better the eye don't focus details here, you can use your eye to create a lill' blur => that can help a bit the image reading.

The image itself is quite abstract and blurry, the content isn't quite important, it's mostfully a colors and lightning work.
Next time I'll try to use this technique onto a realistic painting or a photo, something less abstract, that would be more interesting.

Hope your raging fever'll drop man, don't go on cold place, make some hot drinks and maybe rest a bit.

washka
07-11-2011, 07:00 PM
I anticipate for next year... It's not final version, it'll be horror mood. I'll add some more elements and a fishing rod with a candy for the rightmost pinguin. If I forget this one in september 2012, hope someone won't and will up, I'll put a reminder.

The Pum King:

"His hunger for candies was so great and so strong, growing each days...
So during Halloween his own fellows made him prisoner and half-buried him alive into the ice of the snowy kingdom of Alasga."
(They wanted some candies too)

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/3049/thepumkingw2011.jpg

paulius-st
08-11-2011, 03:14 AM
hi. looks interesting :) . it reminds me of a huge sleaping one eyed monster bear :) . and i can see some characters from happy feet :) . can they dance?

hulahuga
08-11-2011, 07:30 AM
Interesting b&w work Washka! Like your work with those shapes, looks real interesting :)

washka
08-11-2011, 08:05 AM
paulius-st: this one's gonna get some interesting teethy mouth, i'll add some lill' arms or tentacles on the head's side, I'll definite the shoulders a bit more, same for head and crown, additional lill' eyes adds, props and lightning of the arms...
Yes the pinguins can dance the mambo, you should see the pinguins on Madagascar (http://www.monjoujou.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Pingouins.jpg). :D
(In fact those are disguised double agent beavers, but chttt, don't break their cover)

.......~.
(B| ) ):
.......~.

hula: thanks, a bit chaotic but it works.
There's some layer "cuts", the work ain't clean, but I think those can be part of the painting and be used in a representative way too.
(Even if those'll disapear when I advance more into the image)

[Edit]
About the image's story, at start it was some kind of dock environement with some kind of background buildings, then I had some kind of throne that spherifized giving me that. I hope that the frustration and the anger feelings mood/athmos work?
About the theme, I think I had some sub-inspiration from kidchuckle's (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?t=91762).

[Edit]
Btw hula, remember the comic project? Maybe I'll manage to get some time to advance on this one end of december or in january, but for now let's just hope.

washka
09-11-2011, 03:41 PM
Hello people, here's a lill' game.

From a simple story I did this abstract and symbolic image.
Try to imagine your own short story from its content, try to decipher the meaning inside knowing that my version is quite basical and simple:

washka
09-11-2011, 04:02 PM
Don't let your brain compute too much on this experimental second one (first one is OK) or you'll get an headache or nausea, title could be something like "Blue duck with a flower", maybe for mario fans even if it has nothing to do with it. Who's got nausea?

Maybe I got an explanation for the nausea don't worry, I could have an explanation for the headache too.
Maybe it's related to the big amount of data, the blur and the confusion into the image.
Maybe your subconscious is completly lost because it feels the repetition but without any references.
Just assumptions.

"Parachute jump" would have made some nice title for second one, or "Test the centrifuge" or something like that.

Maybe I could use the second one for a picnic tablecloth in a detox center or an asylum? Nah! Bad idea.
I've another experiment done before this one, but...the effect is quite "hard" and I ain't sure it's a good idea that I post it here.

Avatar if you pass by and you're still alive, I think we should add a "Can cause brain damages" tag for my thread, I think it would be better for sensitive or epileptic people that pass by, no?
Prevention is better than cure.

washka
11-11-2011, 07:11 AM
There's things I shouldn't touch at, never mind.

washka
11-11-2011, 07:12 AM
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/294/blackbox2w2011.jpg

washka
12-11-2011, 02:49 PM
Hello people, here's a lill' game.

From a simple story I did this abstract and symbolic image.
Try to imagine your own short story from its content, try to decipher the meaning inside knowing that my version is quite basical and simple:

Nobody like to resolve enigma here?

washka
14-11-2011, 04:08 PM
I had some interesting steps gif for today with colors but I changed my mind.
I won't post any color research for a while, sorry people but my color work is being spoiled and I don't like that.

Colors do not belong to me, technique is freely shared on open forums, inspiration is free too and people who don't have any inspiration from themselves like to leech, kinda classical.
We're all in some sort of way s*ckers. But there is leech and Leech.

You copy my color palette once, then another time, then again and now again.
It starts to get boring for me man, because in some way it's my work and you're taking a part of my credit from it even if you have your own credit.
I know palette doesn't really belong to anybody, and it seems it doesn't really matter for you, it does for me, I think there was a misunderstanding.

I could ask you to stop but I know Leech don't know pride, I won't explain what's "pride" to you, maybe you already know what is it. The Leech'll recognize himself.

That's a good point for learning on internet but it's also its limit, never mind, no more open stuff here, or with some years as delay. At least I learned something.

Special thanks to Avatar, hula and aby for their support, seeya in a few years guys, if I remember. ;)

I officialy close this thread for now, never mind.

hulahuga
14-11-2011, 07:46 PM
NoooooOOooo!! ;(

But we had so much fun! But if you do feel that someone has been taking/stealing/been inspired in a bad way then sure, you should probably take care of your art and works in as a good way as possible :)


Comic thing: yes that would be cool :)

washka
09-01-2012, 10:42 AM
Passing by, I share this one, see it's a box.

Emaxy2008
09-01-2012, 11:50 AM
nice works :D

Avatar-3DT
09-01-2012, 04:57 PM
Oh, so this is how it looks outside the box! :p

washka
10-01-2012, 01:20 PM
In part, outside or inside, that's just a point of view.
So yes, but maybe it's inside, who knows? Not me, chttt it's a secret box. ;)

My retrospectiva 2011 (july-december), I do that each year.
If you've got time, vote for the ones you prefer, artistic//horror//cartoon. You can comment/critic too.

Thanks for your participation guys and girls, hope we'll get a good 2012 year! (And lot's of fun)
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/3761/planche1232011.jpg

hulahuga
10-01-2012, 02:53 PM
I think you have done a lot of great works, evolved too :). Let's see even more, and even better this year!!!

Avatar-3DT
10-01-2012, 09:03 PM
These things have some sort of name I think. Nice compilation of your year's work man.

paulius-st
10-01-2012, 09:28 PM
nice stuff you've done over the year. my favourite are these boars and rhino :).
ceep it up and may your inspiration should never leave you no matter what happens :)

washka
11-01-2012, 11:15 AM
Thanks a lot Dr.Hula, Avatar and paulius for all your support this year, for all your great comments. I hope that 2012'll brings us lot's of courage on our roads.

And may your work always shine to people around you like the sun's blessing.

(This one was inspired by Aton's cult (ancient Egypt) and Avatar's poetry, but has to be taken more as an image than a truth)

washka
13-01-2012, 07:14 PM
Preview, still unfinished, but doesn't matter, I post this version.
Valkyrie/muse/death&war godess...
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/3662/mw2012.jpg
You can change your point/angle of view or tilt a bit your head when you're looking at this one, from below it is even more marked, face change a bit but...
Funny isn't it? (seems like anamorphosis/false depth, because of blur & lighting maybe)

Avatar-3DT
13-01-2012, 10:23 PM
Looking pretty good 'tho the face is a bit off here, looks like someone stuck its face in one of those cardboard images with a hole where the face of the character is. Maybe its because the colors of the face are rather mute in comparison with the vivid colors around it.

washka
14-01-2012, 08:59 AM
Agree and the alpha down there (chin part) isn't clean yet.
But you're right abouth the colors, full grey pop it even more, even if there's already some color on her cheeks.
I'll work a bit more volume and integration of her front, side and top part of her hairs, but the "floating" effect is emphasized by the black zone around her face.

I don't want skin tones, I want grey, "death" grey there. She had scars at the corners of the mouth (I've erased), maybe I'll put those back.

This black zone + color contrast + materia disassemble the face. But I want her face to "float" a bit, in any case the bottom part of it (not the front).

You should look at this one humbling yourself in over your screen, the way the volumes behave (the way we interpret those) is quite interesting. From top it's flattenning, from bottom it extends quite well.

The black zone help this kind of anamorphosis, I'll keep the bottom part like that.

Oh and if you move a bit around (point of view looking the screen), those kind of eyes "follow" you (because those aren't directional). What do you think about that? :D

If it's some kind of general zombie, valkyrie, death godess or whatever, she can be odd, it works with it.

I think I'll add to her a lill' snake tongue. xD

Avatar-3DT
14-01-2012, 02:38 PM
If you want to take in consideration my advice, in my experience I learned that gray doesn't express well the idea of death. Gray its part of most portraits as shadow, or to lower the intensity of certain areas. I usually use a cold color for dead things (blue or green) or go with a desaturated purple. This last one might be what you want for your image here since you already have purple elements incorporated into the head dress.

washka
14-01-2012, 03:26 PM
If I go cold tones I'll kill cold eye stain (contrast), if I go desaturated purple I'll kill half-hot lips...

Putting colors on da face'll give her either a cold mood either an hot one.

A violent zombie, skin tones, red, orange, voodoo style (with some black'n white).
You can add a few purple, dark blue and violaceous tones to balance a bit the whole thing.
But it'll be hot and quite violent mood, primitive, hot sex.

A cold one, greeeeen, bluuue, purple, cold tones, with a few dark red and lill ' orange or yellow touch to balance.
But it'll be a vegetative/calm mood, silent death, cold domination, mystic...

I'm trying to go toward a neutral mood for the face, emptiness but also the indomitable will, neither cold neither hot.

This grey makes a good balance for all the other colors around.

I'll test a bit with tones you said, but with cold tones or purple, I go romantic & dominative, it's also a quite depressive color.

You can't be sure she's completly death, is a zombie completly death? Is a death godess completly alive?
So grey allow me this kind of ambiguity/questionning.
Enigmatic mood => scary. Neutralization. I'm "fixing" the athmos's time/mood, there is no colors there, grey is used like some kind of "glue". See what I mean?

Avatar-3DT
15-01-2012, 02:31 PM
Gray, as purple, is a neutral color. Its best used for backgrounds, to build on with other color or to tone down colors. Using cold colors is not calming if you know where to use contrast and throw some warm colors on. What you want to achieve is more of an expression and its related more to anatomy and light than the colors them selfs. But, in the end its your decision, I just pointed out my perspective. It now depends on how you would imagine a goddess of death, what you would expect one to look, feel and act.

washka
15-01-2012, 03:02 PM
Purple isn't as neutral as grey, but I understand and agree about your point of view.
But in my formatted brain, grey wash away and purple is more pessimistic, anxious, you've got a small negative and depressive feeling there.

It's also one of the romantic color, the victorian, empire and ruling of somes of the aristocracy. An undead nightelf queen with purple works.
In my brain it's closer to blue than red, but again that's subjective because it's depending of the mix between those, and I agree with the fact that you can break da calm mood with cold tone and a few startegic hot touches. Furthermore I like to go against the classics.

But about the work, no, the color is as important as the face, imo even more, the face is just an excuse, an opportunity, but it doesn't mean I won't put some attention on it. It's more a color work than anat/light.

I'm trying to get something a bit disturbing, enigmatic, grey participate to this veil, to this emptiness, the something hidden there. And colors are really important for that, for the whole mood/athmos, that's why I would want to thank you to give me your perspective, it helps me a lot.

washka
20-01-2012, 07:43 PM
The Mummy Returns!
(I'll make that joke again...next time)
Slow and silent work on this one
http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/8994/sarcophagusdw2011.jpg

Avatar-3DT
21-01-2012, 01:22 AM
This is the proof you are an agent of the Dark Side washka! And yes, we know you have cookies, but we don't care! WE HAVE BEER!

washka
21-01-2012, 03:00 PM
It is impossible, I've no cookies, that's false, it can't be truuue!!!

I'm not an agent of the Dark Side and my inimitable cover can't be revealed Avatar!
Imagine that Beavers come back and what could happen if I'm spying for them...
Imagine they've brainwashed me and Paulius making us their secret disguised agent, preparing a secret inva(gue)sion.

I couldn't reveal this crucial info. That mean I'm not brainwashed, it's an undeniable proof, because if I would I wouldn't talk about it, I would keep it secret, you know, classified.

But I know Beavers are completly grazy and use misinformation sometimes...
And they've got beer tooo...lot's of beeer...barrels, GIANTS CAVE PLENTY OF BIG BARRELS.

(With black glasses and a corrupting face)
You want da map?
They're some entry criteria...

Avatar-3DT
21-01-2012, 09:20 PM
...or you are simply telling me the truth in the hopes I won't believe it. :p The image speaks for itself 'tho. You have the Evil and you have the cookie. And there are exclamation points too (as in "We have coookiees!!!).

washka
25-01-2012, 12:54 PM
...or you are simply telling me the truth in the hopes I won't believe it. :p The image speaks for itself 'tho. You have the Evil and you have the cookie. And there are exclamation points too (as in "We have coookiees!!!).

You've no tangible proof I've any cookies!!!
In any case a mummy is silent, if I'm evil and a mummy I couldn't answer you. :D
But maybe, she's hungry and looking for those, you know: a silent cookie hunter. (Coming from the shadows)
-Imagine Metal gear solid remodelled with a Mummy hunting cookies...Best seller. xD


Making some test with shapes, I'm still playing around on "ear" zone and "necklace" part, also did some test with colors for da face...
Tones and lightning aren't completed yet.
I think I'll work face part (mood/lightning/colors/details) at the end.

Whatdyathink?

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/189/supw2012.jpg

Avatar-3DT
26-01-2012, 12:06 AM
My money would be on number three. The horizontal lines on the face, the faded lines over her shoulder seem to have sweeten a little the contrast between the face and the rest of the image.

wil_himura
02-02-2012, 04:08 PM
Hey Washka,

I'm sure you already know this guy (http://fengzhudesign.blogspot.com/) but man, this pictures (http://fengzhudesign.com/blog/fzd_ballmech_01a.JPG) reminds me your stuff a lot!!

hulahuga
02-02-2012, 06:44 PM
Yeah 1 or 3 are best. Nice going btw, it looks better and better! :)

washka
03-02-2012, 08:02 AM
Hey Washka,

I'm sure you already know this guy (http://fengzhudesign.blogspot.com/) but man, this pictures (http://fengzhudesign.com/blog/fzd_ballmech_01a.JPG) reminds me your stuff a lot!!

This guy's got multiple decades experience in da industry, his level is far away from mine. ;)

But I really like Feng Zhu's design work, one of the masters in this area.
Always quality and clean works and he's got some nicez inspiration.
His basics are amazing, especially in environement and architecture.
Serious and rigorous, he's quite good for mecha and organics too.

hula: Thanks man, how've been school exams? Tests?

Btw, I'm on the Sea creatures (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?t=106155).

washka
09-02-2012, 06:26 PM
Don't know if you remember this one...some times ago. Last year? 2010?
Still on progress, colors aren't stable yet, I have to make legs part and stuff like that, I will keep this one simple.
C&C always welcome, good night here.
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7188/newdragwipw2012.jpg

washka
15-02-2012, 08:44 PM
Demon Rise Update (march 2011), maybe you remember this one, I've add a few more touches, shoulder part is starting to appear, and I've also attached version zero to show the first step:
http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/4277/demonrisew212.jpg
Funny because version zero make me think to an asian haunted house behing a group of trees.

Avatar-3DT
16-02-2012, 11:24 AM
Thats some furious painting you have there. The second one makes me think about one of those wounds when you accidentally scrape yourself against a wall.

washka
20-02-2012, 09:43 AM
Thats some furious painting you have there. The second one makes me think about one of those wounds when you accidentally scrape yourself against a wall.

Yes quite, lively/tonic, almost aggressive, but that's because of the rushing blurry strokes. The technique is quite interesting, I must deepen it.
About wall wound, yes, strokes and color participate quite well to you interpretation. I've had that ones a few time, it looks like those.

Abstract things are like a mirror, what I like with those it's that they help you to understand yourself and people better, a bit like a language on wich we've all a different point of view, a scroll library inversed.
A secret key that open a thousand gates, but not too much airflow please!!! ]The wise[. :D :haha: :haha: :haha:

[Final: "Sea creature" contest (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?t=106155)]
If you want to vote (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?t=106930), we're three participants on this one.
Satire: "Respect My Authoritah!". (Ref. Southpark, Cartman)
Technique: Photo blending//reshape and painting over. I've focused on tentacles's style.
http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/2762/sharkopusw2012.jpg

washka
24-02-2012, 09:41 AM
Can one of you try to look "globally" at the tentacles?
Try to "feel" those => Feedback is thanks.

luffie
29-02-2012, 09:16 AM
man... you could be a different version of giger..... everything are leaning to the creepy alien feel, and where giger is dark, yours is colorful. With the right direction and many practice, things could get really creepy! :p

washka
04-03-2012, 03:44 PM
Lill' pin-up, photo/color work, enjoy:

hulahuga
04-03-2012, 07:23 PM
Looking good man! You should continue with it a bit, see what you can come up with :)

washka
09-03-2012, 04:55 PM
Two brothers reviewed, I've advanced a bit on this one, arapaïma scales:
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/9837/twobrobig01m.jpg
Old version (2011):

aby arty
18-03-2012, 11:08 AM
oooh like the female go on with that.
i was dizzied by the dots in the last piece but love the dragons.

Avatar-3DT
19-03-2012, 08:02 AM
Not like you to add that level of detailing on your images Washka. :p

washka
19-03-2012, 05:11 PM
man... you could be a different version of giger..... everything are leaning to the creepy alien feel, and where giger is dark, yours is colorful. With the right direction and many practice, things could get really creepy!
24-02-2012 11:41 AM

I still got a looong way to go luffie. :haha:

I'm not Giger, this guy has opened some nice doors or he pushed those a bit more, and he's still keeping in while he's already got an amazing and impressive path.
For that, any artist that has seen his image can say: Thanks! Or: Respect!

Even if you don't agree with the content, with the image's purpose, creepy image are still creepy.
So the way you use has its importance, it has an impact on people, except blinded ones, you know that I'm sure. :D

Sometimes I should self-censorship more.

But I'm not sure I'll just walk the creepy way, I like it, but I even enjoy it more when it "feeds" the beauty one.
I think the process behind can repaid other process types.
In my case maybe it's colors, lighting or volume, I don't know.

We'll see in 10 years luffie, have fun on your chara way, your technique is already strong but you need more posing and anatomy practice! ;D

Looking good man! You should continue with it a bit, see what you can come up with

I'll finish this one hula, it won't change a lot but it'll be hot, don't worry.

oooh like the female go on with that.
i was dizzied by the dots in the last piece but love the dragons.

Colors aren't "entangled" enough and saturation is high and dots don't help in the process. Always care with your eyes with high color values, especially here.
Original image is quite big, and there is some blue dots onto the yellow dragon that mess with eye/brain support. I'll try to stabilize that, thanks for input that help aby!

Not like you to add that level of detailing on your images Washka.
Arapaima picture for da scale Avatar. :D => Photo integration, bottom right part isn't integrated yet. But I'll even integrate more the "chest" part. Is it too visible?

washka
19-03-2012, 05:14 PM
This one is a fast sketch I wanted to make in response to Avatar's funny ones, D&D players will understand, dice stuff...:

washka
20-03-2012, 01:09 PM
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg407/scaled.php?server=407&filename=tete00aw2012.jpg&res=medium

Av => Photo ref for previous dragon scale:

aby arty
20-03-2012, 01:17 PM
eh some one is ppositively following master feng zhu ? all photo textures and stuff hmm .
nice !! keep on going

i think you should do a draco were pyre next (wthout the dots of course,iam stil spinning like whiskied beyblade ):p

washka
20-03-2012, 06:47 PM
Cut it with some water aby! :D
A draco, hmm, what's pyre? After the water element, you mean Pyro for fire?
I'll have to find some inspiring fire picture then, maybe a "red" warrior (draco inspired).

Did you know that water was born from air and fire from earth? Or maybe it's the contrary, I don't know. ;D

aby arty
21-03-2012, 11:14 AM
dracowerepyre is a mix of dragon werewolf and vampire

heres a image from one of the artix entertainment games.
http://jornaldoaqworlds.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/dracowerepyre.jpg

ur ideas are good too , maybe a pyromantress drinking from lava chalice :D

washka
26-03-2012, 09:01 AM
dracowerepyre doesn't seem simple but maybe I'll find some inspiration for another style interpretation.

maybe a pyromantress drinking from lava chalice

Like the idea, I'll get some lava for next one then aby, thanks!

Meanwhile some recent simple shapes experiment stuff (take three steps back ;)):

washka
24-04-2012, 07:47 AM
Calm days, light-color study and a lavamancer (Aby inspiration). For lavamancer the head is too big and I'll add some more details (Mali's trouble).

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/3590/nmilleniumw2012.jpg

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/9007/lavamancerw2012.jpg

===> was done from ===>

washka
24-04-2012, 08:22 AM
And some other color stuff:

washka
24-04-2012, 08:25 AM
Same:

washka
24-04-2012, 08:43 AM
And yes, for old forum buddy only I'm on da big network now... => Louis Planche (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003730105973)

:ugh:

I don't like social pressure, formatting of thought or behaviours and media monopole. A braave new woooorld.
But never say never...

washka
24-04-2012, 06:32 PM
If you remember this one:
http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/6070/raisinglordc3redw2012.jpg

I did some lill' & sweet horror from it:
http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/3081/rlcthuluw2012.jpg

washka
06-05-2012, 08:16 AM
Behelit V2:
http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/6136/spectrew2012.jpg

ignacio197
06-05-2012, 10:56 AM
I like your latest addition. Not sure what it is, but he is cool :) If its a matter of versions, I prefer the one on the right. The character stands out a bit more.

washka
06-05-2012, 07:45 PM
Thanks ignacio197

v1 => here (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?t=73789&page=4)

In previous post Luffie's Berserk fanart's some nicez piece.

washka
22-05-2012, 10:08 AM
This one isn't digital, it's my first oil painting :lurve:
For more WIP details, working steps are on my blog. Title is "The Scarecrow", it was finished yesterday morning 21th of may 2012 for a material painting contest.
C&C always appreciated, enjoy:
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/5237/final001c.jpg

terry1337
22-05-2012, 10:32 AM
AWesome parrot^^:D i really like the vivid colours so bright:D sweet keep it uP

ignacio197
23-05-2012, 08:50 AM
It has the same kind of feeling as your digital paintings but you can tell the brush strokes here are not as freely applied. The combination of shapes, colours, contrast and strokes you have on the digital ones are very characteristic, and are not showing fully here. I did it the other way around, I have many acrylic, pastels and oil paintings from the past 20 years and went digital about a year ago. I can tell on myself, how I am more careless and try many more things with digital painting, which in turn translates into more interesting things (at last sometimes). With traditional media I am always afraid of making mistakes or trying new things, because it takes a long time to fix them, sometimes you cant even fix them :)

I guess it will come with practice, but if you manage to get on oil what you have digitally, I think you can get some very interesting stuff. I would say is a good start!

washka
23-05-2012, 10:47 AM
It has the same kind of feeling as your digital paintings but you can tell the brush strokes here are not as freely applied. The combination of shapes, colours, contrast and strokes you have on the digital ones are very characteristic, and are not showing fully here. I did it the other way around, I have many acrylic, pastels and oil paintings from the past 20 years and went digital about a year ago. I can tell on myself, how I am more careless and try many more things with digital painting, which in turn translates into more interesting things (at last sometimes). With traditional media I am always afraid of making mistakes or trying new things, because it takes a long time to fix them, sometimes you cant even fix them :)

I guess it will come with practice, but if you manage to get on oil what you have digitally, I think you can get some very interesting stuff. I would say is a good start!

True, hopefully oil can move a bit (http://louisplanche.over-blog.com/).

I think that's why digital's got its strong points, with digital you're 100% unconstrained, It means you can correct every mistakes.
I like to do mistakes on digital painting, then use those.

-Considering 3D/material and light aspect too, you can make quite any kind of simulation, anything virtual is 100% "free of materialistic charge".
In bravehearth the hero says: "FREEDOM!".
-Except time/code/calculus and soft/hardware/interface ressource...
(Da machine and the all included=> can be everything)

Unlike 70-80% of digital painters, I mean the majority, I do not deprive myself of mistakes.
It takes time, it isn't profitable in short term, so industry doesn't care.
But sometimes you can learn more from mistakes than from the classic rail, but this kind of approach kills the "technique market".
The "technique market" is got fixed standards. Those standards have usually some points, not always. I think the technique market is important too, it allows exchanges, learning, and the enrichment of values.
I think too much people are just englued on it, on pure technique, mastering techniques add to your "skills" but this is not all, I think you've to use it to take off, to go a step further, you know like a springboard. Don't stay englued, take off, giving from yourself.

In contrast to this rich technique market (I think that during the last 25 years, on digital media, the technique approach has been gaining in wealth, in quality (level of details and effects), in diversity, so it allows nice pannels and there is an expressivity and information gain) the approach is deseperatly the same everywhere and f*cking poor, some old veteran go a bit outside da mass, but the majority stay on da formatted "net", they all do the same things. Sometimes you've got some nice surprises, quite rare.

About colors I prefer real colors than digital, I prefer colors on printed digital than on screen ones, I prefer light reflected on a solid media than light created from a screen (even if it's quite da same mechanistic inside).

But hopefully, I can go from digital to traditional media, and from traditional media to digital, isn't da world great? :D

washka
23-05-2012, 10:55 AM
I did it the other way around, I have many acrylic, pastels and oil paintings from the past 20 years and went digital about a year ago.

It's funny how ways cross.
Maybe after that, in a few years, you'll go on traditional again, with some more freedom.

ignacio197
24-05-2012, 01:37 PM
That is my hope, that after some time in the digital world I will be able to loosen up and take something with me to the traditional world :) Although I have to admit, I am liking the digital world more than I would have thought .......

washka
04-06-2012, 11:03 AM
Speedie for circus contest. (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?p=917417#post917417)

washka
29-10-2012, 05:42 PM
I'm not dead yet. :evil:

Avatar-3DT
29-10-2012, 11:43 PM
Any new work from beyond the grave then? :p

eydi
30-10-2012, 05:25 PM
Any new work from beyond the grave then? :p

Hey I wonder also about your new works, your works has really very nice and different colors.
Nice colors. it is too good for a first oil painting :) Your work looks so different :)

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/5237/final001c.jpg

washka
02-11-2012, 09:02 AM
Another ones for you Eydi, an acrylic speedie( landscape) and a blue oil test for "Abyss" theme:

washka
02-11-2012, 09:18 AM
Hey I wonder also about your new works, your works has really very nice and different colors.
Nice colors. it is too good for a first oil painting :) Your work looks so different :)

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/5237/final001c.jpg

Here are the steps:

Part zero:


[Medium]

[Digital painting]

washka
02-11-2012, 09:23 AM
Part one (using some ref. from the previous digital work):

[Medium]

[Oil]

washka
02-11-2012, 09:26 AM
Some details/close up:

[Medium]

[Oil]

washka
02-11-2012, 09:45 AM
Part two: smooothing/clearing the whole stuff, finishing the piece, finishing the fight.

[Medium]

[Oil]

washka
02-11-2012, 09:54 AM
Any new work from beyond the grave then? :p

:D

I always respawn Avatar... That's my legacy.

But here's some stuff coming from below. This place you know... when you pass over the ocean of darkness.

Avatar-3DT
04-11-2012, 09:22 AM
I know artists doesn't usually like to be compared but your work reminds me a lot of Van Gogh's style. Especially the oil with the woman and the scarecrow.

washka
04-11-2012, 12:49 PM
I know artists doesn't usually like to be compared but your work reminds me a lot of Van Gogh's style. Especially the oil with the woman and the scarecrow.

It was for a contest witch theme was Van Gogh, I wasn't picked between those, but here's the winner:

Some sort of Lego gundam... Knowing a bit the arts, I bet it's a criticizing/denouncing approach. In the theme, I don't approve the winner selection, even if I understand their choice, because I think that pushing the "stance" in that direction is a dead end.

http://www.abk-mortsel.be/content/ann-littani-klas-david-ooms-winnaar-royal-talents-2012

Avatar-3DT
05-11-2012, 11:07 AM
I know I'm not polite but that looks like an elephant doodle. I don't think you need any painting talent to do that. But hey, I'm into figurative drawing and painting, what do I know?

washka
16-12-2012, 09:22 AM
15 cm sculpted clay, nude model's 25 minutes pose, training exercice:
Have a good christmas and/or enjoy an happy endyear/newyear:

hulahuga
16-12-2012, 10:28 AM
Hey Washka, nice stuff! I like the oil paintings :). Would be nice to see you use some more saturated and darker tones when you do that style as well, could end up quite interesting :)

Avatar-3DT
17-12-2012, 02:54 PM
Very nice sculpt washka. Simple yet you hinted all the right shapes there.

ltken84
15-01-2013, 02:09 PM
Good go with the Oil painting Washka!! I believe you can challenge yourself from painting small subject first, for example go with sill life maybe, try painting a realistic apple and take your time. It will be fun even though its a boring subject :smug:

Keep it up!

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