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ClassicGamer-3DT
01-02-2010, 09:41 AM
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Welcome to the fourth MONTHLY CHALLENGE which are spread across the entire forum. This section is the Speed Modelling Section.

Thread Naming: Your Name – Solar Ice Drilling Machine
Keep all questions in this thread

You're challenge if you choose to accept it is to make the best Solar Ice Drilling Machines.

Due Date: Sunday 11:59 pm (GMT) February 28th

Idea: Solar Ice Drilling machines, boring a multitude of different sized holes into the frozen ground beneath them. They can be from from any scale from hand held to giant industrial drilling behemoths.

Time Limit: 240 Mins, multiple entries are allowed at the WIP stage, but you can only submit one into the final judging.

1x Beauty shot of your vehicle. Feel free to post multiple angles of your model or just one big version on this page. You are free to do whatever post effects you like on this image. Be careful how you do this though, simple is often better. Your models will not be judged on texturing...this is after all a modelling challenge.

1x Wireframe of the model. Feel free to post multiple wireframe shots both screen grabbed and cell rendered, the more angles and good clear wireframes the better.

1x Clay render, a detailed clay render of the model created, again with as many angled shots as you like or one big render.

All images should be no larger than 1024x1280 in a portrait or landscape format. All images must be at least larger than 800x600 or bigger to qualify. All images must be uploaded to the threedy severs via the attachment button in the advanced section of the thread page.

Time spent on the model(s) does not include texturing, lighting or rendering.

State your software of choice, and time spent somewhere on your entry. Any additional details such as lighting and texturing and rendering times are optional.
It is permissible to use different software to light and render your model if you so wish.

Competition Restrictions:

Your entry must be specifically created for this challenge. Do not use any pieces from previous personal works. We are relying on your honesty here.


Prizes

Speed Modelling 1st Place

Digital Tutors (http://www.digitaltutors.com/) - Semi-Annual Membership worth - $225

Focal Press (http://www.focalpress.com/) - Any 2 books - worth approx $60-$100

2dartist (http://shop.3dtotal.com/index.php?cPath=27_34) or 3dcreative (http://shop.3dtotal.com/index.php?cPath=27_35) digital magazine, 12 month subscription - worth $40

3DTotal (http://www.3dtotal.com) - t-shirt
*3DTotal t-shirts can be swapped for a 3DTotal ebook if you already own one.

Speed Modelling 2nd Place

Gnomon (http://www.thegnomonworkshop.com/) - Any training DVD (download) - worth approx $60

3DTotal (http://shop.3dtotal.com/index.php?cPath=28) - Any 2 ebooks - worth approx $45

2dartist (http://shop.3dtotal.com/index.php?cPath=27_34) or 3dcreative (http://shop.3dtotal.com/index.php?cPath=27_35) digital magazine, 6 month subscription - worth $20

3DTotal (http://www.3dtotal.com/) - t-shirt

Speed Modelling 3rd Place

3DTotal (http://shop.3dtotal.com/index.php?cPath=28) - Any 1 ebook - worth $15

3DTotal (http://www.3dtotal.com/) - t-shirt

Speed Modelling 4th Place

3DTotal (http://www.3dtotal.com/) - t-shirt

Speed Modelling 5th Place

3DTotal (http://www.3dtotal.com/) - t-shirt

zipel
01-02-2010, 06:01 PM
Wooow, i've been waiting for something like this for a long while! :) Great idea, i might post a model tonight!

TNTxGRAVE
01-02-2010, 06:43 PM
I am confuzzled. Is this a SOLAR powered drill?

bakuryu06
01-02-2010, 07:01 PM
nice!!

One questions:

1) Does the drill need to be Solar powered? If so, I don't think it will work that well o.O Is the drill going to be on an ice planet? If so, then the planet is solid ice because it is shrouded by its dense atmosphere blocking sunlight therefore no solar power =/. Or is it just a solar powered drill at the arctics? That sounds more plausible.

2) So there are no changes to the amount of texturing we are allowed to do? I changed my mind and now I agree with the rest that this should be SIMPLY a modeling challenge.

zipel
01-02-2010, 08:11 PM
From all the excitement :D:D:dance:, i forgot to ask: does the machine have to be mobile?

rocneasta
01-02-2010, 09:02 PM
@ zipel - since it's from hand held to big machine it's definitely mobile

zipel
01-02-2010, 09:25 PM
I know it will be mobile if it's hand held, but i was thinking on a huge machine (more like a factory size, not a shed size :) )

rocneasta
01-02-2010, 11:30 PM
hmm don't see any logic if the machine drills ice but cannot be moved or it's weight = 100 tons to make it easier for falling through the ice and drilling the bottom of the ocean

i don't think it has to be mobile, but it should be able to drill ice and be easily moved by some means of transportation - for instance by CH-47 Chinook. It's maximum takeoff weight is 22,680 kg so 22,6 tons

if i'm mistaken please correct me CG

Question - is the purpose of the machine to drill ice, like i want a hole and that's that or to be like a research machine to extract drilled ice (perhaps both concepts work)

bakuryu06
02-02-2010, 12:02 AM
hmm don't see any logic if the machine drills ice but cannot be moved or it's weight = 100 tons to make it easier for falling through the ice and drilling the bottom of the ocean

i don't think it has to be mobile, but it should be able to drill ice and be easily moved by some means of transportation - for instance by CH-47 Chinook. It's maximum takeoff weight is 22,680 kg so 22,6 tons

if i'm mistaken please correct me CG

Question - is the purpose of the machine to drill ice, like i want a hole and that's that or to be like a research machine to extract drilled ice (perhaps both concepts work)

if something requires DRILLING then we can assume that the surface to be drilled is EXTREMELY thick and hard! And I think it could withstand the weight of 50,000LBS.

Ice can be very VERY tough! Especially at the arctics! Now for this contest were talking about an entire planet made of ICE. There are MILE long caves in some of the locations! Especially during the ice age.

rocneasta
02-02-2010, 12:05 AM
if something requires DRILLING then we can assume that the surface to be drilled is EXTREMELY thick and hard! And I think it could withstand the weight of 50,000LBS.

Ice can be very VERY tough! Especially at the arctics! Now for this contest were talking about an entire planet made of ICE. There are MILE long caves in some of the locations! Especially during the ice age.

True but if someone is thinking of modeling a ice drilling plant, factory size machine, i doubt it's possible to build such a thing in icy conditions...

McKronic
02-02-2010, 03:01 AM
just don't do a **** poor job putting it together :P

hulahuga
02-02-2010, 08:16 AM
Think the giant robot in Transformers 2 ;)

Psycho Mantis
02-02-2010, 08:26 AM
please asnwer the question about "solar". do we have to include solarcells/collectors or was it just for a fancy name?

JAPO
02-02-2010, 10:40 AM
I think it has to be solar powered. After all, if we are continuing theme from last time, this would be about the time we have nuclear winter or second ice age. So my guess is solar power is just about the only power around (that and power of mutated two headed rabid polar bear cross bred with elephant, but thats a different story :smug:).

Anyways, if the story continues, I am following the tracks from the last week. And I already have an idea. In fact i already have the drill in my head (figuratively). And again it would be based on the "ww2 never ended" concept :)

.. and amg! I got a perfect idea for beauty render!

rocneasta
02-02-2010, 10:42 AM
I think it has to be solar powered. After all, if we are continuing theme from last time, this would be about the time we have nuclear winter or second ice age. So my guess is solar power is just about the only power around (that and power of mutated two headed rabid polar bear cross bred with elephant, but thats a different story :smug:).

Anyways, if the story continues, I am following the tracks from the last week. And I already have an idea. In fact i already have the drill in my head (figuratively). And again it would be based on the "ww2 never ended" concept :)

.. and amg! I got a perfect idea for beauty render!

damn JAPO i cried and laughed at the same time m8

Vozzza
02-02-2010, 11:31 AM
Er... how does this solar powered drill work under ground? I'm assuming it will have to move down in order to make any kind of useful hole?

Or am i just unaware of ice drill specifications?

ClassicGamer-3DT
02-02-2010, 11:39 AM
OK guys and gals let's try to address these questions. We want a drilling machine from you, we have mentioned that it is a solar drilling machine. Regardless of how the habitat might be on this planet the solar panels are fully charged and can drill for the next 12-24 hours. You can create a handheld driller say the size of a pneumatic drill all the way up to a factory drilling plant which drills millions of little holes or one big hole at once. You can even create a drilling machine with built in artificial sunlight continually beaming onto said panels.

If you read the rules it does state that you can texture your model(s)...however remember that this is essentially all about modelling....you are of course allowed beauty renders to help illustrate your model but it's all about modelling remember that.

Hope this helps.

CG.

Monkeyboyen
02-02-2010, 11:59 AM
acouple of questions;

1. I can work on this entry whenever I want as long as I hand it in before Sunday 11:59 pm (GMT) February 28th and only spend 240 min on it ?

2. Is the time used on the concept part excluded from the 240min time limit ?

ClassicGamer-3DT
02-02-2010, 12:01 PM
yes and yes

Identity3d
02-02-2010, 01:40 PM
Hi i got a question - can i create a rig that uses a laser to drill the holes which is powered buy the panels? i have a great idea if this is possible.

Thanks and best of luck to everyone.

ClassicGamer-3DT
02-02-2010, 01:44 PM
Sure no problem

Rachel vd M
02-02-2010, 02:06 PM
Hi i got a question - can i create a rig that uses a laser to drill the holes which is powered buy the panels? i have a great idea if this is possible.

Thanks and best of luck to everyone.

was thinking the same thing,
it reminds me of the movie, The Core, and ofcourse the AvP movie ;)

Identity3d
02-02-2010, 02:35 PM
hehe dont forget the best use for a laser drilling platform is star trek :P

JAPO
02-02-2010, 02:42 PM
hehe dont forget the best use for a laser drilling platform is star trek :P

Actually the best laser drilling platform was the Death Star. They only used wrong drill size on Dantooine :D

Aramor
02-02-2010, 03:03 PM
Well, they made a hole. In space. So...

hammer88
03-02-2010, 03:22 PM
Question: the 4 hour limit ... does it mean 4 hours strait? Can I do the model in stages let's say today, modeling tomorrow textureing, the day after tomorrow rendering?

ClassicGamer-3DT
03-02-2010, 03:32 PM
Providing you keep track of where you are time wise you can model anytime you wish and go back to it throughout the month, just as long as when you add all those say half hours spanned over a time period add up to exactly or under the time limit.

CG.

xeni
08-02-2010, 05:49 PM
where do i have to post the final work.



SMC M#04- Xeni- Mini Solar Drilling Machine (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?t=73618)

alepooh
09-02-2010, 04:10 PM
Hi there!!

I was wondering what does it mean speed modeling?, how can you know if someone is using only 240 min for modeling this drill?

Thanks!!!

TNTxGRAVE
09-02-2010, 04:17 PM
honesty system

ClassicGamer-3DT
10-02-2010, 10:10 AM
yep indeedy we are relying on your honesty........plus in the old SMC's it was all about if an employer gave you an hour or two to make a concept/model and if you really took 4 hours you'd lose the job. So you're lying to yourself if you cheat.

Simple as that :)

alepooh
10-02-2010, 02:48 PM
:dance: Aha understood.:dance::dance:

TNTxGRAVE
22-02-2010, 07:28 PM
Are you allowed to use a sculpting tool such as ZBrush or Mudbox during your modeling phase?

pables
23-02-2010, 08:13 AM
TNT, I think we talked about this time ago, and if I remember well, it is not allowed because this is a modelling contest, and there is a sculpting challenge for zbrushing.

So we have to model as we want (box modelling, edge extruding, sub-d, nurbs... as you may want/need) but not sculpting.

Let's wait for CG to confirm that but I think that was the conclusion.

Btw, I think it was also asked (maybe even by me XD, damn alzheimer) but, if we make a pedestal for our model, has it to be included in the time modelling?

chunkymunky
23-02-2010, 06:18 PM
Everything in your scene has to be modelled from scratch unless you state a pedestal was modelled separatly, then you would need to exclude any geometry from your wireframes.

As for sculpting if you really need to it, use it in less than 10% of your model/scene the majority of your model should be created traditionally with the usual modelling toolset.

TNTxGRAVE
05-03-2010, 01:01 AM
When are the results going to be announced for "coming of the ice"?

pables
05-03-2010, 07:19 AM
I guess a week or two from now. This time seems to be only mod judging? Maybe sooner then. Be patient :D we all want our T-shirt :P

TNTxGRAVE
05-03-2010, 10:48 AM
I find it funny that, most are really just interested in the t-shirts.

pables
05-03-2010, 11:12 AM
Well, actually we have been in this comps for a loooong time, and people realize this is really for fun and practising, and of course learning from ourselves and from our mates. Also with the time you know better your mates and it is an opportunity to make fun and friends. We all like this forum, and win a t-shirt and proudly wear it is sooo great!

Of course the inclusion of podium prizes was a great strategy, because that brought life to the comps, they are great, and it is nice to win some, but that is a secondary objective for most of us, I think.

Adrock
05-03-2010, 06:20 PM
I'm waiting!!!:D

Tiberiy
01-04-2010, 08:47 PM
where is results?

hulahuga
03-04-2010, 07:17 PM
Over at the finals section of the challenges. Archives probably...

http://forums.3dtotal.com/forumdisplay.php?f=110