BiG ToE - Snow Creature - I Like Turtles

[BiG ToE-3DT]

Thinking, something with 4 legs(to waste tris), maybe hairless(to save tris). Leaning towards a female.

[xxxcubanxxx]

is it gonna have multiple tits? :roll:

[rocneasta]

no it will have multiple trits!!

[Fenixy]

Leaning towards a female.
(to waste tris)

[rocneasta]

proper question is this Big-Toe

How much tris are you willing to spend to get that female?

[BiG ToE-3DT]

I'll throw a few hundred tris at her for the night.

[Buzzy]

If it is female, I demand see-through clothes.

[goast666]

clothes!!! To hell with see through, I demand naked!

[bakuryu06]

What is up with people and making naked women warriors??
They make no sense. Especially in the snow lol :wall:

[goast666]

What is up with people and making naked women warriors??
They make no sense. Especially in the snow lol :wall:

Boobs

[bakuryu06]

Boobs

:zzz::halo::zzz:

[armians]

see-through for a disgusting ugly frozen hairy alien female creature...? i don't know man...

[BiG ToE-3DT]

do you know what cold does to the ladies?

[xxxcubanxxx]

watch your eyes....

[chris_solo]

watch your eyes.... ;))

[poopipe]

awesome - she carries her own ice cubes

in other news, a certain mr rodriguez was googling for reference material earlier

[BiG ToE-3DT]

when I need reference material, I google Mr. Rodriguez.

[Buzzy]

Are we here to make art or inside jokes? Get to it man!

[BiG ToE-3DT]

ok, here are some ideas I'm tossing around.

[Joseph Pomeisl]

you draw that stuff? don't think I've ever seen you post a drawing before...

[BiG ToE-3DT]

nah, I didn't draw these. Just right click, save as.

[Joseph Pomeisl]

:)

[buzz001]

Toe, the reference photos you have are great and Steve Sthalberg has one of the best female fantasy models online.

[BiG ToE-3DT]

started with the head. Going for a snake like creature with legs.
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g129/DJBiGToE/004-29.jpg

[Joseph Pomeisl]

awesome

[setschaos]

WOO PROGRESS! Looks good so far, can't wait to see where you go with it.

[TNTxGRAVE]

I see more alligator / croc right now. But then again its only the head. Cant wait to see more...looks great and clean topology

[chris_solo]

great start!

[Buzzy]

that is a really awesome head so far. It has a lot of character.

And four eyes? That's badder than Suge Knight.

[TNTxGRAVE]

that is a really awesome head so far. It has a lot of character.

And four eyes? That's badder than Suge Knight.

i agree, suge knight is a punk next to this thing

[BiG ToE-3DT]

working my way down the throat, next, the body.
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g129/DJBiGToE/008-27.jpg

[Buzzy]

looks like a prehistoric chickengator

great character

[chris_solo]

yes I agree! I like his strange and creative form.

[folktrollish]

the back of his head looks like a toad:)

[Martin_x]

The head looks awesome.

[armians]

nice one, the model look great! waiting for the body :] is this just a base for sculpting?

[BiG ToE-3DT]

the idea is to get the low poly done this week. Then, sculpt on it for no more than a week, then a week for textures, lighting and poses.

update: under 5,000 tris right now. So I got room to play.
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g129/DJBiGToE/011-6.jpg

[SR_6274]

Definately a unique design. Looking great so far ToE.

[omegamista]

very weird and unique creature. will it have any more appendages or is this guy arm-less?

[roel]

is it an ostrich or an aligator? Great concept!

[kogen]

Yeaha! That's extremly stylish. I like the confused but mean look in his face the fat tail is so cute!

[omegamista]

reminds me of those annoying little dinosaurs always trying to steal my eggs!

[snakeeaterjns]

Very creative. One of my favorites until now.

[yoyomon]

That's a very sexy head Toe.

[Joseph Pomeisl]

that's pretty freakin' cool...
any arms for it?

[BiG ToE-3DT]

I got the tri count for arms, but I'm not sure I got the time for them. If I sit down and work on this, I could man handle some arms and maybe some other things as well.

[strict9]

is it going to be a baldy? or will fur/feathers be applied
nice face and shape..

[daks]

Nice modeling, i don't want to bash this thread.
But heads design looks too familiar to this
Neville's Page design (http://www.nevillepage.com/wp-content/gallery/characters/1.jpg)
Sorry but maybe you are same guy from gnomon school, who did this modeling tutorial on similar head? Link to tutorial (http://www.thegnomonworkshop.com/store/product/315/Creature-Head-Modeling)
I think you could mention that you are using Neville's design as reference.
Good luck with the creature!

[BiG ToE-3DT]

yep, that image is in my refrence folder. Had no idea what the artist's name was, but I do now.

[Bigley]

Wow BigToe! I am liking where this is going :) I also like that you are doing it with traditional poly modeling. You kick ass sir :P

[washka]

Funny one! Like originality.

[hulahuga]

This could turn out quite nice :)

Keep it going!

[BiG ToE-3DT]

going to take a try at some arms next:
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g129/DJBiGToE/016-18.jpg

[bakuryu06]

Very awesome creature you have here Mr. BigToe! Loving the face design! The four eyes look great! Can't wait to see this guy textured!

[BiG ToE-3DT]

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g129/DJBiGToE/020-11.jpg

[lampshadehead]

Awesome, those arms look really cool. The elbow seems like it may be a bit too far up the arm, or maybe the arms are just a tab bit long?

[setschaos]

looks good so far, however, I'd like to suggest a lengthening of the area between the leg and the arm. Also, I agree about the elbow being a little high as well as the shoulder, but that's just what pops out to me.

Keep it up and I can't wait to see more. I know you can't "compete" but I always look forward to your entries and they have been kind of sparse lately. GET ER DONE!

PS: Where are the boobies?

[TNTxGRAVE]

Its got sexy legs like the Metal Gear Solid 4 mechs do.

[poopipe]

I'm thinking you need to pull the ball of his foot back so it sits more directly under the ankle. As it is, it doens't really look like it's taking any weight and I think that'll harm your final poses

I'd be inclined to slim out the shin section of his legs as well for the same sort of reason,

I quite like the off proportions of the arms - if he had pointier elbows and wider hands I think that'd look pretty awesome


anyway - hurry up :p

[BiG ToE-3DT]

made some changes as everyone mentioned.
not sure what looks better. Need to figure this out soon. Already got it unwrapped, would like to start sculpting soon.
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g129/DJBiGToE/023-9.jpg

[BiG ToE-3DT]

close ups:
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g129/DJBiGToE/021-13.jpghttp://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g129/DJBiGToE/024-12.jpg

[kogen]

I like that cute little guy. He looks clumsy but intelligent enough to bite off your legs if you take a bath in the icy water. I'm really interested in how he's developing.

[snakeeaterjns]

To me it looks great. To anxious to see the sculpture.

[BiG ToE-3DT]

started sculpting. Trully my weakest of weak points.
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g129/DJBiGToE/025-5.jpg

[Raul]

your doing good bro! keep it up!

The only thing i would say is that you may need to spend a bit more time refining the details, everything stills looks a tad blooby. Other than that, nice

[Buzzy]

yeah this is looking great so far Toe!

[Zelenkov]

raul is right, but since your still working on it, you are going to get higher detail down the road. So, keep it up, looks bad ass! :)

[BiG ToE-3DT]

still playing with underlying shapes and form
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g129/DJBiGToE/027-7.jpg
and messing arounds with mudboxes materials
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g129/DJBiGToE/028-12.jpg

[lampshadehead]

Looking nice. Those leg muscles are starting to look strong. Some of the folds, like under the tail might be a bit too regular, but when you get the skin texture and small details on top I'm sure it will look great.

[BiG ToE-3DT]

started off being lazy, and only unwrapped half the model, and only sculpted half the model aswell. The end result, the sculpt has the funny flipped look in the texture. So, I've gone back and redid the unwrap. Full model has texture space now. Now I need to re-sculpt the whole mesh this time.

Also, adding an obj of the mesh in the first post. It's missing the eyes and teeth, but the main body is there if anyone wants to play with it.

[Joseph Pomeisl]

:D well ain't that kind of you.

[ZenMan]

Great work man :D Love the modeling and appreciate it a great deal.
Shame your using mudbox tho :P i kidd i kidd :D

[BiG ToE-3DT]

ok, so check this mess out:
my normals are all kinds of screwed up, both out of xnormal and mudbox. Was going to try and slice them up and use the different areas that work, but xnormals normal maps are setup different than mudbox's. Need to take a look to see if there are any settings I can change.

mudbox
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g129/DJBiGToE/creature3normals.png
xnormal
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g129/DJBiGToE/SnowCreatureNormaltest_normals.jpg

[kogen]

Hmmmm if you ask me I'd say that the mesh should either be scaled or cut in XNormal. There are projections from your arms on the belly so to avoid that you could scale all high and lowpoly meshes in XNormal (e.g. from 1 to 5). Another way is to export only non overlapping bodyparts from ZBrush. (e.g.: just the belly than bake that to a normal map and do it like that for all the other parts). Sure you have to bring it all together in PS.

Cool creature :)

[Arkadius]

I get this kind of result alot, whats worked for me in the past is...

(I dont have xnormal installed on my computer at the moment so I'm doing this from memory.)

1.In xnormal go to the real time viewer you're going to be loading you're low rez mesh and you're high rez. ( if you think you're computer wont be able to handle the high rez you can import a mid to high rez mesh, you just need one to reference off of)

2.Once both mesh are open make sure they are overlapping each other pretty well, they arn't then something is wrong when you're exporting

3. check of edit cage at the open left, you should see some more options which allow you to edit the cage, all you're going to do is globally extrude the cage until the cage consumes all of the high poly.

4. After this save you're low rez mesh as a .Sbm file and it should ask if you wish to switch out you're low rez obj mesh for you're new sbm mesh, hit yes and try to render you're normal map.

5. Lets us know how it went.

[BiG ToE-3DT]

I'll try that out, thanks.

[BiG ToE-3DT]

started on the stand, and some base colors on the texture.
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g129/DJBiGToE/036-5.jpg

[setschaos]

Hey toe, looking good, watch the green light though, it gives a subtropical look to your scene. Here's what I can suggest: toss a blotchy layer of red over the top part of his body via diffuse, in photoshop, use the diffuse overlay option to make it spotty, then collapse it with a new layer and put the red layer on softlight and see what sort of color variations you can get.

[BiG ToE-3DT]

getting it rigged up:
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g129/DJBiGToE/037-6.jpg

[Stoneking]

Looking very nice, congratulations,
The texture is really improving since last update,
Which software do you use to paint textures?

Fernando

[BiG ToE-3DT]

just using photoshop.

[Buzzy]

Looks real cool so far Toe. Too bad I'm not allowed to vote for you :(

[BiG ToE-3DT]

it is a shame.

[BiG ToE-3DT]

hi res (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_mTsDt2cuUq0/S4reihabytI/AAAAAAAAAFI/4i7xFklZ_3Q/s1600-h/winning.jpg)
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g129/DJBiGToE/winning-1-1.jpg
hi res (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mTsDt2cuUq0/S4redNpURNI/AAAAAAAAAFA/ZWJNXMZS0ug/s1600-h/beauty.jpg)
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g129/DJBiGToE/beauty-1-2.jpg
hi res (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_mTsDt2cuUq0/S4reW9iUe-I/AAAAAAAAAE4/aEmXgSqjYUA/s1600-h/wires.jpg)
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g129/DJBiGToE/wires-1-2.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g129/DJBiGToE/textures-1-1.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g129/DJBiGToE/refs-1.jpg

[Buzzy]

This turned out really really cool Toe. I love the colors and the textures. And its a very cool creature with lots of personality.

Perhaps the normal map could have some more small-level detail (bumps, warts, scales), but other than that, I love this model.

I'm disappointed you are ineligible.

[poopipe]

he's coool :D

one thing I think might help improve slightly is to just dump another layer with the AO over the top to make the lumps and bumps pop a bit more.

you get points for rigging though, rigging should be part of the requirements

[Growl]

Very interesting character. Really like his pose and his funny look. This is the top of this contest for me.