SMC M#04 - Rachel - The S.P.A.N.K. and K.I.L.L.E.D.

[Rachel vd M]

K.I.L.L.E.D
Kinetic Ice Laser Laceration Evaporation Drill

S.P.A.N.K.
Solar Panel Array Nexus for KILLED


This machines work together do drill the ice,

SPANK stays at the surface and provides the power to run KILLED
:crazy:

im still working out the main design, but ill post it once i got it fleshed out

[Aramor]

Ah, ofcourse this is technology used by the D.E.A.T.H. company, otherwise known as Dude Everything with Acronyms is Totally Hot company.

Anyway, sounds cool. Can't wait to see some stuff.

[Rachel vd M]

D.E.A.T.H. otherwise known as Dude Everything with Acronyms is Totally Hot company.


rofl :haha:

[Aramor]

I spend way too much time figuring that one out actually :P

[bakuryu06]

LOL interesting names! but how can something be solar powered on a planet made of ice >.>"

[Rachel vd M]

that's easy,

the planet is too far from the sun, or doesn't contain a core of molten lava
Mars for instance is very cold, around 100 degrees under freezing point, still, all the rovers there run on solar power.

the bigger issue would be, how is a driller (that is fully subterain), going to use the sun?

[bakuryu06]

that's easy,

the planet is too far from the sun, or doesn't contain a core of molten lava
Mars for instance is very cold, around 100 degrees under freezing point, still, all the rovers there run on solar power.

the bigger issue would be, how is a driller (that is fully subterain), going to use the sun?

Exactly, Mars gets cold but not cold enough to turn the planet into ICE! The equatorial area of mars during summers reaches 50-60F which isn't THAAAT BAD. But then again its rare. The average temperature of mars is like -45C and even goes down to -185! And its the next planet over yet you see no ICE! So in our case a planet that is completely ICE would be so incredibly far from the sun and I mean INCREDIBLY to a point where it would rarely get sunlight to power anything turning it into an ice ball. To me it just doesn't seem plausible =/

[Rachel vd M]

And its the next planet over yet you see no ICE!

That's because it is believed that Mars used to have a Atmosphere, and was once a "warm" planet, after that it lost it's atmosphere, it got so hot it lost all it's water

still there's ice to be found on mars :dance:

though not enough to digg into ;)

though to enforce the idea of a ice planet, look at our planet.
sure its not solid ice, or has full coverage. still at its polar caps, some places the ice is almost 5km thick, more than enough to digg your teeth in ;)

oh and btw. have you ever seen a solarpowered drill, i think this would fall under scifi.
talking about scifi, ever heard of a lump of ice called Hoth ;)

EDIT:
i just thought of another "drill" concept, though i think ill do that as my second project,
a orbital drill, that just fires a giant lazer beam into the planet to ventilate it ;)
or it could just capture/focus the solar energy similar to the icarus project from "Die Another Day"

[bakuryu06]

That's because it is believed that Mars used to have a Atmosphere, and was once a "warm" planet, after that it lost it's atmosphere, it got so hot it lost all it's water

still there's ice to be found on mars :dance:

though not enough to digg into ;)

though to enforce the idea of a ice planet, look at our planet.
sure its not solid ice, or has full coverage. still at its polar caps, some places the ice is almost 5km thick, more than enough to digg your teeth in ;)

oh and btw. have you ever seen a solarpowered drill, i think this would fall under scifi.
talking about scifi, ever heard of a lump of ice called Hoth ;)

EDIT:
i just thought of another "drill" concept, though i think ill do that as my second project,
a orbital drill, that just fires a giant lazer beam into the planet to ventilate it ;)
or it could just capture/focus the solar energy similar to the icarus project from "Die Another Day"

lol cool idea about the laser but i think a LOT of people will be doing lasers.

The discussion about the planets and ice, I'am confused where you stand on this issue lol. I'm saying that you cannot have SOLAR power on a PLANET made of ice. So we must assume that this planet is like earth. With two icy poles =)

Good Luck! I may or may not Join.

[zipel]

EDIT:
i just thought of another "drill" concept, though i think ill do that as my second project,
a orbital drill, that just fires a giant lazer beam into the planet to ventilate it ;)
or it could just capture/focus the solar energy similar to the icarus project from "Die Another Day"

You mean like the ion canon form C&C Tiberium Wars(it has a different purpose, though :) )?

http://www.cncden.com/cnc3_concept2/Ion%20Cannon%20firing.jpg

[Rachel vd M]

yeah, indeed, though i'd bet you could use a ioncannon to drill holes aswell ;)

[Rachel vd M]

here's my first picture,

Its after 50 minutes of modelling,
I could save a lot of time by duplicating everything 18 times :haha:
The cables were done by lofting a group of different sized circles, and adding twist to the mix ;)
The lowest part, with the vertical pipes, cables and laser units will spin at high velocity during operation.

Also, i intend to put tank threads in the holes of the top part of the machine.

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Stunning start as always Rachel I love the way you approach these and so far so good.

I know this will just get better and better.

Kind Regards

CG.

[TNTxGRAVE]

Very nice start buddy. reminds me of an elevator that makes its own path...lol

[Tiberiy]

trans earth express =)

[xeni]

it look very good :)


SMC M#04- Xeni- Mini Solar Drilling Machine (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?p=767940#post767940)

[ill]

very nice start!

if I can ask you a question, how did you do that vast amount of cable connecting the bottom with the middle part?

[Rachel vd M]

very nice start!

if I can ask you a question, how did you do that vast amount of cable connecting the bottom with the middle part?

a easy trick, just use loft on a group of circle splines, and add some twist or scaling in the parameter
after that you just copypasta everything

[TNTxGRAVE]

good ole copypasta...i used that ALOT

[Rachel vd M]

talking about copy pasta, i used it on the threads as well ;)

here is another iteration of my model, i added threads, piping and a big pressure sphere.

still im thinking about some cool looking structure to hold the sphere in place, no ideas yet :ugh:

maybe ill repeat the upper 2 sections to form a train like structure.
Though the problem you get with a long object is that details cant be shown as close up anymore.

c&c is welcome :D

[Kiwicanta7]

Please don't take this the wrong way because I very much think you have the best that I've seen... but how (besides evaporation) does this drill actually drill? The parts at the bottom look rounded and not able to drill if it encounters anything that is not ice. Maybe you were gonna work on that, but I figured asking with having plenty of time to either change or explain what's up would help ya.

Sorry if it didn't:)

EDIT: So I've been trying to do that cable connection thing with lofting the circles splines using a torus and I'm not seeing much that looks even usable. Any advice?

[Rachel vd M]

the bottom part contains 18 laser units, they focus on the ice, and evaporate it
vapors, sand and debris get sucked into a giant funnel in the center of the machine.
there the pressurized gas is used to add additional power to the drill

[TNTxGRAVE]

i see you over came the tread issue. looks really nice

[Rachel vd M]

i did it by hand, it wasnt very big so it was possible :D

[Kiwicanta7]

Ohhh okay cool, makes sense.

So for the bottom you used toruses which were lofted and twisted? Really not having much luck getting anything close. Would like to learn it for later projects as it has a very unique look.

[TNTxGRAVE]

quick question. once the drill reaches its drill distance, how does it get back up to the surface?

[Rachel vd M]

i just use Circle splines, no objects like torus or cylinder

you can use a cluster of splines to loft along a spline
make sure you merge those splines first ofc

[Kiwicanta7]

Ok, I feel like a total scrub, but I'm not really sure what you mean. I guess I don't really know what a spline is or how to use/create one.

[Rachel vd M]

a spline is a line, without any faces, it can be used as a base for several objects,

though i suggest (if you have max, to press F1 and RTFM)

[JAPO]

quick question. once the drill reaches its drill distance, how does it get back up to the surface?

Same as down. Using the treads on side. The machine uses lasers, so it makes sense the "drill" does not touch the ice, as the intermediate between steam and ice is water. Water would greatly reduce effect of the laser. Hence it makes sense the machine is lodged against sides of the tunnel. So... put the gear in reverse and back out of the hole :D

...or thats the way I understand this model :)

[TNTxGRAVE]

JAPO: I thought so too, but do you realize just how slow a process it would be for something of that size to drive itself UP. Gravity would play a BIG role in slowing that down. Unless you had a tremendous amount of power to sustain the motor. Either way it seems like it would take it longer to get out of the hole than it did to drill the hole. I guess that's when the drill workers take a break for tea and crumpets...lol

[paulius-st]

i know hoe itgets out of the hole, theres a big rope in the end of it, witch puls the machine out :D . or maybe jus plain magic. :)

[TNTxGRAVE]

I like the idea that' its magically removed from the whole. Or Sailor Moon and the sailor scouts all rush in and throw sparkly attacks and tiaras which somehow powers the solar panels and gives it enough energy to drive up.

[paulius-st]

good version but i think due to the hard times now and the financial crysis , it only uses Merlin or Gandolf the white.

[TNTxGRAVE]

Could you imagine a magical drill machine powered by Criss Angel, David Copperfield, and David Blaine, while operated by the Sigfried and Roy

[paulius-st]

:D. lol . this would be great.
and a superviser should be THEEE Homer Simpson.

[Rachel vd M]

The drill indeed doesnt "touch" the ice, also the lasers would not only melt, but evaporate the ice, the pressure created by the steam is used to overcome part of its weight when going up, as instead of leading the water/steam through the machine and piping out of the tunnel, it seals itself, the high pressure would be enough to overcome most of its own weight.

though if the lasers fail, it could just crawl back. think of those TBM machines, they can only go a few meters per hour. i think this would be similar then ;)

[Rachel vd M]

Here's another quick update, havnt done much, but i think i am about to round it up and move to the SPANK part, the Solar Panel Array Nexus that supports Killed ;)


i added extra tubing and something to hold it in place,
also i changed the tube so it shows better how it should move,
and i added tiny lasers to the bottom to the device, they make the tube wider, and make sure its a perfect tube, they do the detailing ;)

[JAPO]

You should not have changed shape of the hole to fit in those treads. There is no mechanism that will drill holes for them. I mean NOW I dont get how the machine moves (although the bottom of the pit looks right now). Before it has been clear. Let me explain:

The locomotion mechanisms (treads) are radially arranged around the vertical axis. The goal is to create enough traction on those treads to control movement of the drill up and down. How to create this traction? We need big surface (treads provide that) and pressure (suspension of those trads provide that). Now in order to move up and down, we need the traction to be on more than 3 points arranged radially. When we have that, then simply by increasing the outward pressure we get more and more control. When we are happy and the outward pressure is bigger than the gravity, we can simply move the drill up and down using only the treads. Simple physics. Its like a cork :)

So... the hole should be straight all the way to the bottom, where it should be shaped just like you have it now. I love the simple logic of this device :) Dont spoil it

of course this works only in solid environment. On the other hand... you dont need drill if its not solid :)

[Aramor]

I think the little semi-spheres with the cylinders sticking out just below the lower treads are small lasers that expand the hole for the treads to fit.

[Rachel vd M]

You should not have changed shape of the hole to fit in those treads. There is no mechanism that will drill holes for them.

aramor picked up on my description, the small sphere like units contain smaller lasers to detail the edges of the tunnel, the big laser just does the heavy work, and those small ones make sure it is a perfect cylindrical tunnel, maybe even containing extra grooving to provide extra traction for the threads.

Also, in the case of a mallfunction, the machine cant fall down and crush it's expensive and delicate laser units under its own wheight

[JAPO]

Now I get it. Thanks :D

[Rachel vd M]

here's another update

Im now working on SPANK, the Solar Panel Array Nexus for K.I.L.L.E.D.

Im working on a symetrical design that can be rotated 20 degrees to make a total of 18 units.


Here is the picture of the most recent version,
i still need to add the solar panel, and maybe make something special for the chimney in the center, it should let out all the steam and debris

Im also thinking of putting each unit onto a truck, so you see 18 truck cabins on the edges of the circle, those units could be driven in place and coupled together to make this giant drilling support station.

[sergov]

nice, some hings are not finished
but pretty damn impressive for 170mins

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Wowee!

[sarN]

i like this one a lot! you certainly have an eye for detailining

[rocneasta]

any progress? we want more!

[bgen]

This is truly a behemoth machine, no dought about that.
nice modeling, as expected from ya Rachel.

[alfonzoaqui]

There has been talk of something similar for drilling on the ice fields of Europa. But for that it would have to be nuclear powered.

So what happens to those delicate lasers at the end of the unit when you hit bottom?

[Rachel vd M]

thx for the reply,

@alfonzoaqui: if it hits the bottom, it can either crawl back using its tracks, or stay at the bottom (or in a alternate tunnel). they did that for one of the two TBM's that dug the eurotunnel (Dover-Calais) aswell.

I hope i can finish this project before the deadline arrives.
Though this week i can enjoy a vacation, so no school this week :dance:
Next few weeks i have "filler" lessons until the exams arrive, they are only 8 hrs a week, devided over 2 days.

I also started a second project of modelling the SR-2 Normandy from Mass Effect 2.

Clicky (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?t=74166)

[rizham147]

this will just get better and better.

[hammering3D]

very nice modeling and concept like allays.

hope U will finish it till midnight.