Gift to the Gods - The Brief

[Tom-3DT]

http://forums.3dtotal.com/picture.php?albumid=1291&pictureid=9779

Due Date: March 31st

Brief and Requirements

This month we are having a unified challenge with all 5 streams coming into 1 to give the moderators and organizers a bit of a breather, and also to mix things up a bit and as always, to have fun :)

It's a very simple brief, make a final rendered image in any digital medium under the title of 'Gift to the Gods'. We want a final render of upto 1280 on either axis in either 2d, 3d or a mix. You can incorporate photos as long as you make it clear where they are used (see next point)

At least 1 additional image must also be submitted showing the workings of your image, for example, a wire frame, steps of a 2d painting, or the photos of a matte painting. You must try to make it clear to the judges how your image was created, but it is up to you exactly what you submit.

Please make your own wip thread in this forum and use the naming convention "Gift to the Gods - YOUR IMAGE TITLE - YOUR FORUM NAME"

This thread can be used as a questions and answers.

A few more rules

1. All work must be your own original designs.
2. All work must be completed for this project along, pre-made work not allowed.
3. Individual entries only, no team-work
4. All entries must be submitted to the final entries thread by Midnight GMT on the 31st March 2010
5. Judging - An initial round by the 3DTotal staff and moderators will select the best 10. A second round will then involve each judge looking at each image and scoring and commenting. All comments and scores will be added together into the final winners article published on 15th April.
EDIT - new rule added 2300 GMT 1st March 2010
6. Image must be fantasy/sci-fi based from any world and of any time period but no references to any current real world religions please, however myths and worship of the past is fine, Greek, Egyptian, Mayan etc

Some ideas to get you thinking

Buildings/temples of worship, any time period and race.
Constructions such as giant trojan horses
Scenes of sacrifice
Still life scene, such as small burial artefacts

All we ask is that your image fits under the title of 'Gift to the Gods'

Prize list

1st Place
e-on software (http://www.e-onsoftware.com/products/) - Vue 8 Infinite - worth $895
Focal Press (http://www.focalpress.com/) - Any 2 books - worth approx $60-$100
Gnomon (http://www.thegnomonworkshop.com/) - Any training DVD (download) - worth approx $60
2dartist (http://shop.3dtotal.com/index.php?cPath=27_34) or 3dcreative (http://shop.3dtotal.com/index.php?cPath=27_35) digital magazine, 12 month subscription - worth $40
Shapeways (http://www.shapeways.com/) - $300 of 3d printing (models must be uploaded to shapeways before judging to qualify, if the winning entry is 2d or if 3d but doesn't pre-upload any suitable models from their scene that could be printed, then this prize is not allowed and cannot be transferred)
3DTotal (http://www.3dtotal.com/) - t-shirt

2nd Place
e-on software (http://www.e-onsoftware.com/products/) - Ozone 4.0 - worth $295
Topogun (http://www.topogun.com/) - Single user licence - worth $100
Focal Press (http://www.focalpress.com/) - Any 2 books - worth approx $60-$100
Eat3d (http://eat3d.com/) - Any DVD (download) - worth approx $60
2dartist (http://shop.3dtotal.com/index.php?cPath=27_34) or 3dcreative (http://shop.3dtotal.com/index.php?cPath=27_35) digital magazine, 12 month subscription - worth $40
3DTotal (http://www.3dtotal.com/) - t-shirt

3rd Place
e-on software (http://www.e-onsoftware.com/products/) - Ozone 4.0 - worth $295
Topogun (http://www.topogun.com/) - Single user licence - worth $100
Gnomon (http://www.thegnomonworkshop.com/) - Any training DVD (download) - worth approx $60
Digital Tutors (http://www.digitaltutors.com/) - One Month's Membership worth - $45
2dartist (http://shop.3dtotal.com/index.php?cPath=27_34) or 3dcreative (http://shop.3dtotal.com/index.php?cPath=27_35) digital magazine, 6 month subscription - worth $20
3DTotal (http://www.3dtotal.com/) - t-shirt

4th Place
Eat3d (http://eat3d.com/) - Any DVD (download) - worth approx $60
Digital Tutors (http://www.digitaltutors.com/) - One Month's Membership worth - $45
2dartist (http://shop.3dtotal.com/index.php?cPath=27_34) or 3dcreative (http://shop.3dtotal.com/index.php?cPath=27_35) digital magazine, 6 month subscription - worth $20
3DTotal (http://www.3dtotal.com/) - t-shirt

5th Place
3DTotal (http://shop.3dtotal.com/index.php?cPath=28) - Any 1 ebook - worth $15
3DTotal (http://www.3dtotal.com/) - t-shirt

6th Place
3DTotal (http://shop.3dtotal.com/index.php?cPath=28) - Any 1 ebook - worth $15
3DTotal (http://www.3dtotal.com/) - t-shirt

7th Place
3DTotal (http://shop.3dtotal.com/index.php?cPath=28) - Any 1 ebook - worth $15
3DTotal (http://www.3dtotal.com/) - t-shirt

8th Place
3DTotal (http://shop.3dtotal.com/index.php?cPath=28) - Any 1 ebook - worth $15
3DTotal (http://www.3dtotal.com/) - t-shirt

9th Place
3DTotal (http://www.3dtotal.com/) - t-shirt

10th Place
3DTotal (http://www.3dtotal.com/) - t-shirt

[Tom-3DT]

Ok, as you can see just got the brief up, please let me know what you all think of this new challenge.

Thanks!

Tom

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

The very very best of luck to all who enter, that prize list alone is very VERY tempting. I'm looking forward to seeing everyone's take on this subject.......there's no doubt going to be some interesting and excellent entries :)

[Buzzy]

I love it.

[MightyReg]

Wow this is going to be very challenging! I wonder what I could do...

[bgen]

Man i am diggin this joint competition - it's awsome since now we can mix up 3d and 2d techniques,
meaning we all have to dig deeper and pull our skills out .
Awsome theme :dance:

[TNTxGRAVE]

Well, let the games begin. This is going to be like a free for all, an all out brawl. I predict violence and hurt feelings.

[hammering3D]

so we all compete together, zbrush vs 2d vs mate vs low vs modeling, so in the end the final beauty render count ? So for speed modeling no more clay renders normal are allowed, zbrsuh is allowed, and textures count and no more modeling time we can model all month ??
And we can mix all mediums together use any method we wish just in the end to have an kick ass image ?

[Zlatovous]

Exactly, hammering3D, it's like heaven

I made a packt with myself to attend this month. Going for some low-poly scene, since this just cries for some portfolio worthy stuff

[bgen]

so we all compete together, zbrush vs 2d vs mate vs low vs modeling, so in the end the final beauty render count ? So for speed modeling no more clay renders normal are allowed, zbrsuh is allowed, and textures count and no more modeling time we can model all month ??
And we can mix all mediums together use any method we wish just in the end to have an kick ass image ?

i just wondered about the same thing.

[Krallis]

sounds awesome.
I hope i can produce a half decent entry.

[xxxcubanxxx]

This sounds cool, expecting to see a lot of great comps.

[ZenMan]

Good luck to all ^___^ This will be most awesome to see the end results in the end. Bwahahaha!!!

[TNTxGRAVE]

This is the kind of competition that would REALLLY test ones skill set. Been waiting for something like this.

[Freespace-3DT]

so we all compete together, zbrush vs 2d vs mate vs low vs modeling, so in the end the final beauty render count ? So for speed modeling no more clay renders normal are allowed, zbrsuh is allowed, and textures count and no more modeling time we can model all month ??
And we can mix all mediums together use any method we wish just in the end to have an kick ass image ?

i just wondered about the same thing.

Yes, combine all the mediums that you can ( and that you feel you're proficient in ) to create your entry.

I hope you all enjoy this little variety in our monthly offerings. :smug:

[Tom-3DT]

so we all compete together, zbrush vs 2d vs mate vs low vs modeling, so in the end the final beauty render count ?

Yes

So for speed modeling no more clay renders normal are allowed, zbrsuh is allowed, and textures count and no more modeling time we can model all month ??

Its completely open, submit any image you want to, no limits on time or textures, if you think your clay rendered model can beat a fully textured image then go for it!

And we can mix all mediums together use any method we wish just in the end to have an kick ass image ?

That's right!

[Stoneking]

Ah, sounds Killer!
That's what i call challenging
Congratulations 3DTotal
I'm in !

Cheers
Fernando

[Zelenkov]

So, the deadline is April 15th? Cool, already have great concept in mind :)

[MightyReg]

The deadline is March 31, the results are April 15th

[NitroLiq]

Yes, combine all the mediums that you can ( and that you feel you're proficient in ) to create your entry.
Do stick figures count? :smug:

[Perversonality]

Blimey! I normally struggle with such open-ended briefs, but I might see if I can think of anything worth doing.

Good luck everyone!

[hammering3D]

Thank you Freespace and Tom for the fast answers.

This is a great opportunity to do a long project and end up with an nice portfolio image.
I like the no time limit restriction, no software or method restriction, great for practice.

[Razeem]

i love that one gota submit the best looking image no matter what medium is used. but cant really say about the topic!
i wish i can take part in this

[TKSDeadly]

WHOHO! nice pattern, although i wish the topic should be a little simple for this pattern like monster ect so i can do the work as i do in Sculpting challenge but anyway great idea!


but one thing concern me, is this the new pattern of the challenges we will have from now on or we will still have old type of challenges from next month, i mean sculpting challenge is great and i really dont want it to disappear.

Regards

[Tom-3DT]

WHOHO! nice pattern, although i wish the topic should be a little simple for this pattern like monster ect so i can do the work as i do in Sculpting challenge but anyway great idea!


but one thing concern me, is this the new pattern of the challenges we will have from now on or we will still have old type of challenges from next month, i mean sculpting challenge is great and i really dont want it to disappear.

Regards

Should be back to the 5 streams next month, if this one is a big success then maybe we will run these type every 3 months or so, to early to say right now.

cheers

Tom

[NinthJake]

That prize list is tempting indeed :)

I am assuming that this challenge is run over all major 3D sites and not only 3DTotal?

Not that I would have any chance either way. I am not even close to be in the top ten on here only :(

Good luck to everyone :D

[Tom-3DT]

That prize list is tempting indeed :)
I am assuming that this challenge is run over all major 3D sites and not only 3DTotal?


It's just us :)

[sarN]

oh wow, this is very cool! is there a time limit? or is it a no-holds barred kind of use everything you have including time to make the best thing you can in a month match?

i remember when first place for a challenge used to be a total texture cd (which i still have)!

You guys have certainly stepped it up! I enjoy these forums and community more than the bigger ones like cgtalk, etc.

[behemoth]

What a fantastic concept for a challenge. I am stoked for this one. And since I kinda started posting to this forum half way through last month, it will be really nice to start a competition from the beginning of the month. I can now utilize my time to the fullest degree. WooT! Good luck to everyone! This is gonna be fun! :D

[bakuryu06]

The theme is...

[xxxcubanxxx]

The theme is...

Gift to the Gods?

[hammering3D]

Gift to the Gods?

maybe this is not the theme and the government lie to us :crazy:

[Tom-3DT]

oh wow, this is very cool! is there a time limit? or is it a no-holds barred kind of use everything you have including time to make the best thing you can in a month match?

No limits, open brief!

[NinthJake]

It's just us :)
Whoa, all those awesome prizes "just" for us? :o

That's generous :)

[Tom-3DT]

Whoa, all those awesome prizes "just" for us? :o

That's generous :)

Its no more than normal, just that usually they are divided amoungst 5 different streams.

[animationutz]

holy crap this is gonna produce some very interesting works. good luck to everyone!

[xxxcubanxxx]

maybe this is not the theme and the government lie to us :crazy:

I like that theory. :D

[Freespace-3DT]

holy crap this is gonna produce some very interesting works

That's exactly what we hoped to achieve with this :)

[rocneasta]

i need more time to learn z-brush :)

[bakuryu06]

Gift to the Gods?

lol, I know what the theme is. I just find that the subject might be a little touchy to other peoples beliefs. I might still enter and keep it neutral.

[xxxcubanxxx]

you should definitely join man, the theme is pretty general and doesn't really go into any kind of religion in particular...it's all in the name of art and fun :)

[bakuryu06]

you should definitely join man, the theme is pretty general and doesn't really go into any kind of religion in particular...it's all in the name of art and fun :)

Yup, but I've seen a lot of controversial and some really inappropriate stuff created in the name of ART. But like I said, I MIGHT end up joining lol.

[JAPO]

i need more time to learn z-brush :)

lol thinking the same thing. It will take a lot to beat zbrushers and matte painters :D

[BiG ToE-3DT]

It will take a lot to beat zbrushers and matte painters :D


I beat them with a stick.

[JAPO]

I was thinking anvil on a rail... stick may be lighter. Thanks :D

[Tom-3DT]

lol, I know what the theme is. I just find that the subject might be a little touchy to other peoples beliefs. I might still enter and keep it neutral.

This did cross my mind, but I was thinking this was more of a fantasy style competition, something the classic Trojan Horse for example, or the sci-fi scene in the pro-mo image.

We could make it a rule that is has to be fantasy/sci-fi based only

Tom

[Tom-3DT]

Have added in this extra rule just to clarify

EDIT - new rule added 2300 GMT 1st March 2010
6. Image must be fantasy/sci-fi based from any world and of any time period but no references to any current real world religions please.

[animationutz]

so what exactly is the picture/pixel ratio for this project? standard 3000x4000 300dpi? i do painting so i was just curious?

[ggx2neo]

Well this should be a lot of fun. :) Gonna have to bump my skill up a few notches over the next month to have any chance in this contest.
Good luck everyone.

[SoldierofCatan]

Well I was looking forward to entering my first speed modeling competition but oh well. This sounds pretty cool. I like the rule change with the sci fi twist. This should eliminate any controversy that could have evolved otherwise.

On a side note I'm glad to see that the forum is back up and running. I was freak'n out for a second.

[animationutz]

think of it this way you can still do your speed modeling. and than touch it up in photoshop!

[JAPO]

Have added in this extra rule just to clarify

EDIT - new rule added 2300 GMT 1st March 2010
6. Image must be fantasy/sci-fi based from any world and of any time period but no references to any current real world religions please.


Only one word... "Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo." Damn yesterday I figured what I was gonna do, and now its gone. I know this theme may be sensitive. I just hoped nobody would pull their religion into this.

Ok. My topic was image of japanese soldier doing a traditional shintó offering in rainy Kokura of August 9, 1945.

And... Trojan horse was a fake offering and cannot be counted as gift to gods by definition. It has been interpeted by Trojans as "offering to Poseidon for safe passage home" and was to be placed in Poseidons temple in Troy. There are plenty other offerings in Greek mythology though. Just an observation :)

[silvaticus]

In this context the Shapeways prize is a bit strange especially with the "must be uploaded first" thingie.

[dedji]

Can we use greek mythology?

[Aviv]

hi , first of all good luck to all!
the topic sounds great! :D

as for :

Have added in this extra rule just to clarify

EDIT - new rule added 2300 GMT 1st March 2010
6. Image must be fantasy/sci-fi based from any world and of any time period but no references to any current real world religions please.

if my concept is a modeling contest and the girl that wins is sacrifice to the gods , the scene will have a style from the Mayan era or some egyptian style
is that still match the competition rules ? or i should change it to be a sci-fi ?

sry for my bad english but i got a little confused :)

[MightyReg]

I personally think that past religions that aren't practiced anymore could be used, like egyptian, greek or roman, maya and aztec mythology

[TylinaVespart]

This could be a lot of fun.. need to start brainstorming now. :D

[tortillahamster]

13112221

I will be in this one too

[Tom-3DT]

so what exactly is the picture/pixel ratio for this project? standard 3000x4000 300dpi? i do painting so i was just curious?

Make it this big if you want but the final submission is a maximum of 1280x1280 (see brief) as all is judged on the screen, and we dont need to print anything.


Only one word... "Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo." Damn yesterday I figured what I was gonna do, and now its gone. I know this theme may be sensitive. I just hoped nobody would pull their religion into this.

Ok. My topic was image of japanese soldier doing a traditional shintó offering in rainy Kokura of August 9, 1945.

And... Trojan horse was a fake offering and cannot be counted as gift to gods by definition. It has been interpeted by Trojans as "offering to Poseidon for safe passage home" and was to be placed in Poseidons temple in Troy. There are plenty other offerings in Greek mythology though. Just an observation :)

Sorry to mess up your idea.

Can we use greek mythology?

yes

hi , first of all good luck to all!
the topic sounds great! :D

as for :

if my concept is a modeling contest and the girl that wins is sacrifice to the gods , the scene will have a style from the Mayan era or some egyptian style
is that still match the competition rules ? or i should change it to be a sci-fi ?

sry for my bad english but i got a little confused :)

Mayan, Greek Myths etc are all fine

[Tom-3DT]

In this context the Shapeways prize is a bit strange especially with the "must be uploaded first" thingie.

It is a bit strange, as it says in the brief, it is only relevant for some people who model a suitable 3d item as part of their project that could be printed. We thought it best to offer in this way it as they are a regular sponsor, rather than remove them completely.

[wilwells]

This is going to be my first shot at a challenge. So freaking excited!

[TNTxGRAVE]

13112221

I will be in this one too

Was that a stab at my signature?

[hammering3D]

was that a stab at my signature?

:d

[dhin]

All I can think of is an apple or a coke bottle... does that say something about me?

[andrewhall1234]

This does sound like a really open good challenge. I was going to enter a speed modelling challenge first to get used to the system. But i am going to attempt this challenge even though i will have no chance compared to the matte painters etc. I just hope the judging is fair and i end up with a decent image for my standard! :)

[gauravcg]

topic sounds cool........the gift can be anything like a planet or some monument? :P

[bakuryu06]

would I be allowed to do a futuristic Islamic theme? Something like 200 years in the future.

[JAPO]

would I be allowed to do a futuristic Islamic theme? Something like 200 years in the future.

I dont think so. In fact I am sure you cant, because its direct reference to an existing religion. No double standards.

[TKSDeadly]

I second JAPO it will be great if we stuck with rules, what happen if someone get hurt by your theme, I personally think that should not happen on art forums, there are many ideas which you can do on fantasy/Sci-fi.
Its best to stays away from existing religion.

[poopipe]

I'm a bit disappointed about the extra rule tbh.
Art has had religious themes since people first took a burnt twig to a cave wall - at the risk of being inflammatory (but in the spirit of reasoned debate) I feel that if you're that touchy about your religion, perhaps you ought to reconsider your faith?

that said, I understand 3DT's position with regards to not angering people so I'll just keep quiet from now on

I think this is an excellent brief and look forward to seeing something like this happen regularly.

[TKSDeadly]

if you're that touchy about your religion, perhaps you ought to reconsider your faith?

Okay that's new if you allowed people to make fun of your religion or let them do sarcasm on your religion then you got strong faith, form my opinion it’s the total opposite of strong faith.

Anyway I don’t want to battle debates with you Poopipe because you are a very old and senior artist on this forum and I am just a learner, I join this forum to get better at art.

I started art because to me ART bring joy, calmness, adventure, happiness and sometime horror in from of Movies, games and painting. But I know some people make Art as a weapon to hurt other feeling to me it’s not right but then again that’s my 50 cents.

Regards

[bakuryu06]

Okay that's new if you allowed people to make fun of your religion or let them do sarcasm on your religion then you got strong faith, form my opinion it’s the total opposite of strong faith.

Anyway I don’t want to battle debates with you Poopipe because you are a very old and senior artist on this forum and I am just a learner, I join this forum to get better at art.

I started art because to me ART bring joy, calmness, adventure, happiness and sometime horror in from of Movies, games and painting. But I know some people make Art as a weapon to hurt other feeling to me it’s not right but then again that’s my 50 cents.

Regards

I agree with you.

Instead of chopping off the head. Wouldn't it be better to just adjust the the rule and weed out any material which might promote a negative stereotype or something which would blatantly offend someone?

TBH There is no such thing as ORIGINAL. Everything is taken and built upon something else. The mythological and fantasy based art will have references and roots from previous cultures and religions.

Lastly, I think it would be very DIFFICULT to create something offensive being the theme of this challenge is "GIFT" to the gods. It is a positive theme with a neutral idea and if anyone turns it into something racist and offensive would clearly stand out!

[xxxcubanxxx]

This is a pretty touchy deal, no matter how you put it, someone might get offended by the outcome of this competition whether the "New rule" exists or doesn't. Bottom line is this is a highly diverse forum in all aspects due to having people from all around the world which of course are gonna have a different way of accepting or interpreting a piece of art work.

Should we accept offensive entries? "absolutely not", but who's to say what's wrong and what's right when it comes to ones interpretation of what we understand as religion (besides the obvious; when so many of them exist. Like I said you're never gonna get it right when it comes to these topics, sadly there's never neutral ground here.

I would simply do this, post my work and let everybody else have their own stab at the topic.

[Tom-3DT]

The rules are set, please no more discussions on changing them, or your opinions on why they aren't suitable, lets just get on and make some great sci-fi/fantasy/mythological etc images. If anyone doesnt want to this or is unhappy with this competition please wait until next month when we will launch a new topic.

We have a ton of work on at the moment guys so, so please help out wherever you can.

Many thanks

Tom

[poopipe]

Sorry chaps, should've kept my mouth shut.

I'm in either way :)

old? cheeky beggar :p

[WhiteGuardian]

Seems this theme more related to environment art than character.
I have one question.
May i make something new or out of World's culture that ever exist ?
I don't wanna use Mayan, Chinese or other culture.
I wanna create a new vision for the Gift to the Gods.

[WhiteGuardian]

Hm.......my question still not get any answer. :)

Another question.
Can i put nudity in the scene, like human naked body lay on the floor or as gift to God?
we knew that primitive human history using human as the sacrification to God.

[TNTxGRAVE]

Lastly, I think it would be very DIFFICULT to create something offensive being the theme of this challenge is "GIFT" to the gods. It is a positive theme with a neutral idea and if anyone turns it into something racist and offensive would clearly stand out!

Ohhh trust me...people CAN and sometimes WILL find ways to be offensive. Even if its supposed to be a GIFT, or something neutral. I know no one is gonna do this but what if some one modeled a giant dildo as a gift to the god of your religion? Its a gift right?

I know the 3D Total staff wont stand for that, and that no one on this forum is that stoopid or ignorant, but you never know.

my 2 cents...... now i follow the rules that a set.

[TNTxGRAVE]

Hm.......my question still not get any answer. :)

Another question.
Can i put nudity in the scene, like human naked body lay on the floor or as gift to God?
we knew that primitive human history using human as the sacrification to God.

My guess is that nudity would be ok if its done tastefully.

[Tom-3DT]

Seems this theme more related to environment art than character.
I have one question.
May i make something new or out of World's culture that ever exist ?
I don't wanna use Mayan, Chinese or other culture.
I wanna create a new vision for the Gift to the Gods.

Yes its a sci-fi/fantasy competition


Another question.
Can i put nudity in the scene, like human naked body lay on the floor or as gift to God?
we knew that primitive human history using human as the sacrification to God.

If you must, please make it very subtle and tasteful as we have to put nudity warnings on every article that contains them and it's just more work for us.

Ohhh trust me...people CAN and sometimes WILL find ways to be offensive. Even if its supposed to be a GIFT, or something neutral. I know no one is gonna do this but what if some one modeled a giant dildo as a gift to the god of your religion? Its a gift right?

I know the 3D Total staff wont stand for that, and that no one on this forum is that stoopid or ignorant, but you never know.

my 2 cents...... now i follow the rules that a set.

No more posts on this subject please

[poopipe]

please make it very subtle and tasteful

I'm screwed then :(

[TNTxGRAVE]

No more posts on this subject please

I'm sorry Tom, my lips are sealed.

[bakuryu06]

I'm sorry Tom, my lips are sealed.

And I helped him with the SUPER GLUE!

[kaustavsinha]

Hi Tom, :)

This month's Challenge Topic is simply awesome and very interesting! Was very busy for the past 3 months with work, so could not participate in the Challenges conducted here! But now, am having some time to participate in the Challenges, and am hoping to give a good show at the Challenge! :) Btw, where's Tiberius (Suirebit)? Didn't saw his post!

Best of luck to all the Contestants, and am looking forward to witnessing a feast of Great Entries! :)

[Joseph Pomeisl]

you've replaced that other guy as king of the exclamation point! YATA:D

[kaustavsinha]

you've replaced that other guy as king of the exclamation point! YATA:D

Hi Joseph, :)

Are you talking about me?

[throne]

So i've been wondering, can the final image be untextured like previous sculpting competitions ?

[Tom-3DT]

Hi Tom, :)

This month's Challenge Topic is simply awesome and very interesting! Was very busy for the past 3 months with work, so could not participate in the Challenges conducted here! But now, am having some time to participate in the Challenges, and am hoping to give a good show at the Challenge! :) Btw, where's Tiberius (Suirebit)? Didn't saw his post!

Best of luck to all the Contestants, and am looking forward to witnessing a feast of Great Entries! :)

Happy to hear you can join in! Tiberius is still here and will be one of the judges too.

So i've been wondering, can the final image be untextured like previous sculpting competitions ?

Yes its completely open to submit it how you want, but all images will be judged against each other.

Tom

[kaustavsinha]

Happy to hear you can join in! Tiberius is still here and will be one of the judges too.

Tom

Hi Tom, :)

Thank you very much for the reply; will hopefully participate in this month's Challenges! :) It's great to know that, Tiberius is going to be on the Judges' Panel! :) Am looking forward to the Challenges! :)

Thanks,
Kaustav

[washka]

bakuryu06
TBH There is no such thing as ORIGINAL. Everything is taken and built upon something else. The mythological and fantasy based art will have references and roots from previous cultures and religions.
Your comment about originality is quite interesting and even if the half part of me agree with you:
I use references, I take and built upon something else, that's true.
The other part will just said you're kinda wrong.
Why? Maybe because everybody's got a different interpretation and feeling of the conceptual thing we use the word reality for, or maybe it's just because we're just all different and it's something good.
Maybe it's true that we're always using the same old stuff the hundred of thousands millons previous artists have been using a million times before we even were born but...
When I built something, no clone, no robot could make the exact same thing at the same place and at the same moment with the same state of mind or feelings I've got at this precise moment.
Maybe originality is some big mix, but this mix cames from you, with your personal perception, your personal feelings, your personal experience or culture, your own personal creatives process, your personal dreams and imagination, it's some kind of gift you do to people, just coming from you.
You can believe in some desperate frozen destiny, with just some unique future where everything has already been choosen and calculated, even perception, feelings experience and all that stuff, it's your choice (or not?), but those are just beliefs the half part of me has no consideration for, because this part likes to give something unique and choosen, or receive the same.
And when you're making some art stuff in group, it's even more funny because everybody will give something from himself, something original, just like this big challenge open to all categories.
What do you think about it?

By the way, I think there is gonna be a lot of fun and interesting stuff, I can feel it, poor judges. :)

[TNTxGRAVE]

bakuryu06

Your comment about originality is quite interesting and even if the half part of me agree with you:
I use references, I take and built upon something else, that's true.
The other part will just said you're kinda wrong.
Why? Maybe because everybody's got a different interpretation and feeling of the conceptual thing we use the word reality for, or maybe it's just because we're just all different and it's something good.
Maybe it's true that we're always using the same old stuff the hundred of thousands millons previous artists have been using a million times before we even were born but...
When I built something, no clone, no robot could make the exact same thing at the same place and at the same moment with the same state of mind or feelings I've got at this precise moment.
Maybe originality is some big mix, but this mix cames from you, with your personal perception, your personal feelings, your personal experience or culture, your own personal creatives process, your personal dreams and imagination, it's some kind of gift you do to people, just coming from you.
You can believe in some desperate frozen destiny, with just some unique future where everything has already been choosen and calculated, even perception, feelings experience and all that stuff, it's your choice (or not?), but those are just beliefs the half part of me has no consideration for, because this part likes to give something unique and choosen, or receive the same.
And when you're making some art stuff in group, it's even more funny because everybody will give something from himself, something original, just like this big challenge open to all categories.
What do you think about it?

By the way, I think there is gonna be a lot of fun and interesting stuff, I can feel it, poor judges. :)

I see where both of you are coming from and neither of you is wrong. You both make sense.

I think you might have misunderstood what bakuryu is trying to say. What he means is that if you take a complex story and break it down to its basic theme and meaning...nothing is original anymore. Lets take Avatar for example. Good Movie, well thought out story. But if you break it down to the basics, its both the overused story of "(romeo and juliet) boy meets girl, boy loses girl, both end up together in end (except not dead)" and Avatar is also the classic tale of "nature vs technology" which also has been overused.

The best way i could put it is that compare a story to the human body. bakuryu is saying that there are no more original "bones", and washka is saying that its up to us to take those old bones add "flesh", "skin", and 'hair" to give it some sort of uniqueness.

[washka]

The best way i could put it is that compare a story to the human body. bakuryu is saying that there are no more original "bones", and washka is saying that its up to us to take those old bones add "flesh", "skin", and 'hair" to give it some sort of uniqueness.
I agree then, my misunderstood. And even if every bones are differents, I understand what you mean...
I could add that even if you cut every pieces of ideas or concept to its pure essence, the apprehension and comprehension of it is your own, brain structure grow while you're a child, but I won't because this will launch philosophical comments again and I would be a stupid troll, and you're quite right about the general comprehension shape we all share. :)
Seeya.
And about avatar, great movie, interesting story, but scenario and morality problems.
I just said =WOW= for the big and amazing CG work on it, impressive.

[TNTxGRAVE]

i feel the same way about Avatar. Every scene in the movie, and almost every piece of dialogue was predictable and somewhat cliche, but MY GOD, my eyes had like 829374823 orgasms watching that movie. I'll give em credit where its due...the CG was impressive.

[poopipe]

I always lose count after the third...

[TNTxGRAVE]

I always lose count after the third...

lol i kept count and that the number i ended up with.

[JAPO]

my eyes had like 829374823 orgasms watching that movie.

Wow! I mean... WOW! Thats impressive 2844,2 orgasms per frame of that film including end credits! Thats if you watched it in 30fps.

edit: unless you watched it 2844 times which would bring us to still impressive orgasm per frame

[pantiysh]

to bad i dont have 3d skulpting skills, because i wood insire from Prince of Persia franchise or the 1001 nights or the Zoroastrian faith, with the great city of Petra, Babylon,Ur or the city from Jericho video game

[MightyReg]

to bad i dont have 3d skulpting skills, because i wood insire from Prince of Persia franchise or the 1001 nights or the Zoroastrian faith, with the great city of Petra, Babylon,Ur or the city from Jericho video game

It don't have to be a Zbrush sculpt, it can be a photoshop painting or a matte painting, or traditionnal modeling. It's up to you, just use all your knowledge to make the best image possible.

[TNTxGRAVE]

Wow! I mean... WOW! Thats impressive 2844,2 orgasms per frame of that film including end credits! Thats if you watched it in 30fps.

edit: unless you watched it 2844 times which would bring us to still impressive orgasm per frame

YES i did watch the movie that many times. In fact multiple orgasms per frame.

[hulahuga]

First of all I think you have chosen an incredibly good theme, I also think it is fun that you have picked a gallery image as background for the contest :dance:

Secondly I am a bit sceptical to the rule you came up with - the one about only making fantasy/sci-fi. I actually think it limits the artist quite a bit. Say if I wanted to do a contemporary piece or perhaps something with a bit of historical connection.

Plus - who can really say what is fantasy and/or sci-fi and when it isn't (think of it)...

I understand your opinion about modern religious imagery and how an "inappropriate" pic could cause some anger. But it is actually a bit similar to rules about not posting pieces with excessive violence/nudity/etc.. It is all a matter of respect to others. Thus I'd say that works based on modern religions could be a very interesting element in the contest - the interesting part regarding differences to the fantasy/sci-fi imagery. This particular contest is also heavily watched by mods and admins who can remove excessive images almost as soon as they are posted, which eliminates any real trouble.

Just some of my thoughts...

[agrmrs]

hi, is this a 2d ( drawing ,painting ) or 3d contest ? thanx

[Tom-3DT]

Say if I wanted to do a contemporary piece or perhaps something with a bit of historical connection.


Mythology, Egyptian, Myan, Aztec etc are ok if this helps, but we have now finished the discussion about this new rule.


hi, is this a 2d ( drawing ,painting ) or 3d contest ? thanx

Either, please see brief

[JAPO]

In words of Padishah Emperor from Dune... "There are no set territories, no rules of engagement" ... it can be both, or just 3D, or just 2D... its up to you :)

[agrmrs]

Mythology, Egyptian, Myan, Aztec etc are ok if this helps, but we have now finished the discussion about this new rule.




Either, please see brief

thanx mate ....i got it now :)

[hulahuga]

Mythology, Egyptian, Myan, Aztec etc are ok if this helps, but we have now finished the discussion about this new rule.


Okidoki. Guess no contemporary non-religious imagery then... :cry:
Ah well either way, LETS GET THIS ON!

[Freespace-3DT]

In words of Padishah Emperor from Dune... "There are no set territories, no rules of engagement" ... it can be both, or just 3D, or just 2D... its up to you :)

The use of atomics is strictly forbidden. At least until the Honored Matres come along, if you know what I mean. :)

[washka]

Can we take spice?

[hammering3D]

The use of atomics is strictly forbidden. At least until the Honored Matres come along, if you know what I mean. :)

yes we must play without atomics or we destroy each other before we start :crazy:
who is the host ? you are the host ?

[cohn]

hi! Do i have to make a wip thread anyway?(sorry this is my first challenge)

[BiG ToE-3DT]

hi! Do i have to make a wip thread anyway?(sorry this is my first challenge)

you don't have to, but understand, if you don't your entry won't count.

So, if I was you, I would make one. And I would use it. Don't just post everything you all in one day. That will still get you DQ'ed.:cry:

[wargrafix]

I disagree that one cannot come up with something original for this competition concept. There about 1 million different ways to approach the subject. And if thats not enough, why restrict oneself to earth? Hell, draw a figure dragging a treasure chest across the desert, and there ya go!
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[Stoneking]

Hey guys,
There's this rule on the brief:

At least 1 additional image must also be submitted showing the workings of your image, for example, a wire frame, steps of a 2d painting, or the photos of a matte painting. You must try to make it clear to the judges how your image was created, but it is up to you exactly what you submit.

But it is not mencioned in the final thread, it says just about a final image,

What exactly shoud whe do?

Can whe post a link to the full resolution image?

Thanks in advance

Cheers

[BiG ToE-3DT]

final entry thread has been updated.

[AndreasOlsen]

Hello.

I have a problem getting my .jpg file down to 100 kb, as the 3dtotal uploader takes as maximum. When i try to save it, so it fits the size, it ends up in a vrey poor qualety.

How do you guys keep it under the limmet ?

Thanks
Andreas Olsen

[CLP]

aint the file limit 193kb? i jus resized from 10000x5000 (300dpi) to 1200xwhatever (72dpi) and saved at high quality, like 9 on photoshop, but photoshop should tell u how large a file will be at each level of quality.

bet i confused u more than helped.... lol:hmm:

[Stoneking]

Hello.

I have a problem getting my .jpg file down to 100 kb, as the 3dtotal uploader takes as maximum. When i try to save it, so it fits the size, it ends up in a vrey poor qualety.

How do you guys keep it under the limmet ?

Thanks
Andreas Olsen

Hy Andreas, i load the full size image in Photoshop then:

1- go to image size and make one of the axiz to 1280 pixels because it is
the limit,
2-Then go to save as
3-choose JPG format
4-a slider will appear for you to choose the quality from low to high
together with this you can see the size it will be saved in the same window
5-choose a size under 195K and save it
6-You should get a nice result

Hope it helps
Cheers

[Stoneking]

BTW, i have a doubt,

1280 pixels is the limit for the biggest axis of the image right?

If someone post a bigger image will it be disqualified?

Thanks in advance
Cheers!

[AndreasOlsen]

Thanks Stoneking, much better now

Cheers

[animationutz]

just a verification but you have it labled due march 31st midnight... so in under 10 hours will be 12am march 31st? is this when its due?

[MightyReg]

just a verification but you have it labled due march 31st midnight... so in under 10 hours will be 12am march 31st? is this when its due?

Its not due for 12 AM it's 12PM(midnight)
Countning from now it leaves about 25.5 hours

[animationutz]

12pm.... noon. 12am.... midnight.... just sayin

[Tom-3DT]

12pm.... noon. 12am.... midnight.... just sayin

The best way to write to due date is 24:00 31st March GMT

Another way to remember is it is the last second of each calender month GMT, all our comps always end at this time

Cheers

Tom

[dhin]

Tom, sorry to be a bit anal here and I HATE to nit-pick, but 24:00 is nonexistent. Its an undefined time in much the same way that February 31st is.

The time you are looking for IS either 0:00:00 1st April or 23:59:59 31st March. A day runs from 0:00:00.0 to 23:59:59.9.

:D:D:D:D
Same problem as the 12 am/pm thing.

[Tom-3DT]

you are right but everyone here including you knows exactly what I mean by 24:00 (also pronounced twenty four hundred hours) so lets leave it at that shall we ;)

Now stop nit-picking and get back to work!!!!!! :D

Tom

[Neil_F01]

HEY HEY<, i;m back online now.. its a shame i think i've kinda missed this competition.. i probably wont have the time to develop something for this one.. but come on people.. finsih off what you start and lets get onto the next comp..

[hulahuga]

Hours counting down!!!
Hurry up everybody :-)

[Sinistral]

Ok 15th been and gone. Have the results been posted somewhere else that I've missed? or are we still waiting for the final deliberations?

[BiG ToE-3DT]

you need to keep an eye on the news bar at the top of the forum: http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?t=75364

[rosaline]

I am very excited.
Wondering..."who is going to draw first blood"