Gift to the Gods - No title yet! - Chris Turver

[Turvs]

Hello, this is the first time i have entered a competition on here and would like to wish everyone luck. And i think my first post as well, as i have only just thought of checking 3dtotals forum :p. I will hopefully finish this on time as i have a lot of college work to do and other things at the same time.

So firstly I have an image in my head which i will attempt to do a sketch of, but as i cannot sketch to save my life i will probably do a 3d concept design.

The two main parts of the image will be a huge tower going into the sky and in the background 2 moons one large and one small.

[MightyReg]

Hey welcome to the forum!
A giant tower could be epic (a bit like the legendary babel tower?)

[Turvs]

Thanks, the babel tower was just the type of this i was going for. Still attempting to get the scene right in max at the moment, but should be done soon hopefully.

[Turvs]

Just a really quick concept in max.

I dont really like it and most likely change it from aztec styly to more of a babel tower. And instead of a massive city around it just a few buildings maybe a street leading towards the tower. Going to make a few more concepts today after college.

[chunkymunky]

I quite like this actually, I like the blocking out of the little city elements etc, it's certainly got potential, maybe you could have a massive encrusted diamond/jewel at the top like in The Mummy Returns film :)

[Turvs]

Thanks, i have just got back from college so will do another concept soon. I am thinking it will either be similar to the babel tower and i think something like a diamond or gold, could be at the top as the gift.

Or the aztec style like in the picture. As aztecs did a lot of sacrificing to the gods for example over 3 days the sacrificed over 40,000 people to the gods. (i think not too sure).

Also dont rember there being a diamond in The Mummy Returns.

[chunkymunky]

Yeah it was at the top of the temple that housed The Scorpion King and when they defeated him Rik, Eve, Alex & Jonathan & climbed to the top to escape the temple blowing up because the oasis that had been created was being taken back as the Scorpion King was defeated, as they got to the top they were rescued by their friend in a flying derigible and Jonathan saw the diamond and grabbed it before the temple fell.

[Beindulin]

hmmm someone watches too much mummy methinks ;) *cough* I knew what part you was talking about *cough*

nice idea, if you are sticking with this style tower, I'd personally like to see it higher... it is the gods tower after all. 40k dead bodies would also make a pretty impressive tower/gift to the gods ;)

[Turvs]

Ok then having a power cut that lasted nearly all day and had no time to do the concept i have just done it now. So then i made a babel tower but now i think its too big and the sections are definatly too big.

Also i forgot to remove the small aztec tower in the bottom of the scene.

[Stoneking]

Hey Man!
Great concepts, i love the Piramids, and the tower
Good luck in your work
Cheers
Fernando

[sarN]

very cool. i like the tower idea better than the pyramids, i feel it gives a better scale to the image and it looks like the whole city was built around it

[Turvs]

Thanks Stoneking and sarN. Ok then after looking at more pics i have changed the concept to get a better look at what it will look like. So firstly i will probably remove some of the top segments on the tower and going to add giant stairs going around it, also for it to look right i am going to have to change the size of the city to fit the towers size.

[CLP]

very nice man, lovin the sense of scale!

[Stoneking]

Looks great so far Turver, love it
Congratulations,
Man i got to say i love the Tower as big as it is,
it gives the sense of reaching the Sky for me,

Cheers

[MightyReg]

Good work and composition so far!

[chunkymunky]

I'm liking the sheer size of that tower, it like a proper god fearing size for the inhabitants below, looking good so far :)

[Turvs]

Tried to start the tower properly and to place it in the scene to see how it fits with everything. I think i am going to change it slightly to add more detail to it but i also going to a few other objects to the tower to add more detail into it. And another thing i need to do is make it more round.

Anyway here it is so far. Not done too much on it yet.

[Turvs]

Given up on the tower for now tried to redo it and spline modeling nearly got my pc thrown out of a window. Anyway i though i would start on the planets. I am thinking that it would like pandora and my planet orbits a gas giant. So i made one, but i am going to make a few different ones and choose the best. Also for the second one i was thinking it would be cool to have that one to be an earth like planet, as a moon.

Got the weekend soon so am determined to get the tower mostly completed by then.

I think i might go with the third planet but not too sure just yet, and going to start on the earth planet soon.

[Turvs]

Just wanted to test how the planets would look in the scene with a sky and i think it has turned out a lot better than i expected.

[chunkymunky]

Looking really nice :)

[behemoth]

Wow! nice comp. I'm likin the concept, it reminds me of an image I seen in the digital painting magazine: Imagine FX. Nice to see some other users of camera lens altering. I would totally set my focal length to something like 15-20 for this. Keep it up! Great work!

[Stoneking]

Hey Turver,
Awesome man, one of my favorites so far
The composition is fantastic
Keep rocking
Fernando

[Turvs]

Thanks, and i will be playing around with the camera a lot more when i finish most of the scene. I was hoping to get the tower completed today but spent too much time doing the planet.

Ok then i have practically finished the last planet now :D. Took a very long time as i had to create my own map, night map, oceans and then the planet itself and getting it to render the night part at the dark areas and get rid of the dots on the planet etc.

The night part with the lights hasnt come up well so im going to attemp to change that, but here it is and you can just see in the left side the lights, alough they look like clouds to me lol.

[Turvs]

Just another small update. Been trying to fix the stupid graphical glitch on the tower. :(

[Stoneking]

Hey Turver!
Looks really awesome man, congratulations
I dig you work,
Cheers

[Turvs]

Thanks, i have been very busy and all my time im not doing college work or other things i am trying fix stuff in my scene.

So far i have only one house modeled (going to texture today) and going to make another few today or tomorrow hopefully.

[chunkymunky]

Looking forward to see something when you get chance then :)

[Turvs]

Having too many problems with this, and with 3ds max a lot of my files are not being able to be read for some reason so i have just lost a lot of work.

I am thinking of starting a new simpler concept but running out of time. And the fact i cant create characters is making it harder to choose another.

And this time im backing each file twice. Main file on my PC and twice on two USB drives.

If anyone has any clues on a concept without characters in it please tell me lol, also if i dont finish it in time i will complete in my own time after it has finished.

[wargrafix]

You have time. Be patient and it will be fine. So far it was a solid idea, and you will do better.
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[Turvs]

I think the main reason a lot of stuff went wrong was the fact to get the end result i wanted would have taken a lot more skill than i have.

But i have decided to go with a idea but cant think of a good one.

The best i have come up with is what i think to be rubbish, it just seams too simple, boring and not really to do with the title i think.

So heres the concept, a small creature was found by these people or other creatures and they let the creature live with them in the house. The creature calls these person or people God or something like that. Anyway the creature makes them a present and places it in a box with a bow twice the size of itself. As its a small creature :p. Thats the best i can come up with lol.

The only thing difficult in the scene is the character which i have never made before but hopefully the tutorials that Stoneking gave me will help me a lot.

Oh and btw if i do this concept do i create a new thread or continue with this one.

[Stoneking]

Hey man!
Keep going with what makes you fell best!
You have a lot of tallent Turver :)
And about doing characters... i can see you can do great
just by seen the pose, proportions and etc on your base mesh,
I've seen many people that technicaly knows a LOT but simply
can't make it believable,
Your base mesh promisses something believable!
Hope the tutorial helps you,
I'm sure you will do great :)
Cheers

[Turvs]

Lol thanks but the base mesh is straight out of max, i just moved it into position and made a pose. But i think instead of that one as it doesnt exactly have anything to do with the title and putting God onto the card doesnt make it so. So i have come up with a new concept is a futuristic version of my scene. This time i can use the greeble plugin and get a good result and do a much better tower.

Going to do a concept later.

[Turvs]

Heres a quick concept of the city, they places where its flat will end up being like trenches of pipes/ or rivers or something havent decided yet. In the center as well will be where the tower is and around the base another level of the city. There will also be towers and other buildings around the city.

am also thinking of a balcony of somekind with an alter and a character praying to the tower that has just been completed or something along those lines, i just want to try a character and complete it.

But i will only do this when the rest is nearly finished as i dont want to spend most of my time doing the character ending it not looking good to then find out i have ran out of time.

[evilllama]

Greeble strikes back! :D

[chunkymunky]

he he yeah it's like a greeble death star! I like it though, texturing might be a bugger

[Turvs]

Yea lol, but what i figure is just get a massive texture and just place it on there, but do individual textures for the pipes and the other large towers. Trying to come up with some concepts for the tower just none are looking right, going to try and get some decent reference images and see what i come up with.

[Stoneking]

Man, now it is KILLER!
Love it,
This s the kind of work i have no tallent at all to make :wall:

One of the best so far

Cheers Mr. Turver

[Turvs]

Lol, thanks, i have just spent the last two days at home and college just trying to come up with a decent design for a tower. So instead of wasting time im doing everything else first and when a design comes to me i will make it then.

Oh and stoneking i have another go at making a character, but i just cant find a decent base mesh. You have a great base mesh of a head in the tutorial but the body one i found is rubbish, nothings the right size and it was very diffictult to get them the right size and shape.

So do you know anywhere with a decent base mesh of a full body, i have only found one without features like eyes etc?

[Turvs]

Just a small update as i forgot i have another assignment to do so had to finish that. Anyway just made a simple tower to see how it would look in the scene and how the scal matched up. I am pretty please with it although i need to add more greeble as they city i have so far is too big for it.

Anyway i have also added pipes in the gaps and will soon add some bridges etc to it.

[chris_solo]

hey nice! keep it up.

[Stoneking]

Lol, thanks, i have just spent the last two days at home and college just trying to come up with a decent design for a tower. So instead of wasting time im doing everything else first and when a design comes to me i will make it then.

Oh and stoneking i have another go at making a character, but i just cant find a decent base mesh. You have a great base mesh of a head in the tutorial but the body one i found is rubbish, nothings the right size and it was very diffictult to get them the right size and shape.

So do you know anywhere with a decent base mesh of a full body, i have only found one without features like eyes etc?

Hey Turver, i have a few base meshes i've made myself i can send you :)
please send me your e-mail and i'll send it to you, but it doesn't have eyes
for example, just really basic form and proportion,

What exaclty do you mean by having eyes, you mean the sphere subtool
or it pre-sculpted on the face?
i don't use pre-sculpted base meshes but there's a few in this link bellow,
pixologic makes it available for download :)

http://www.pixologic.com/zbrush/downloadcenter/

They are in the botton of the page, just roll it down and you see many base meshes for download,

Hope it helps

Cheers!

[wargrafix]

The modelwork is absolutely stunning. Can't wait for the advanced renders.
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[washka]

Nice comeback!
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[Turvs]

Thanks! I will be doing a lot more over the next few days as i have no college Thursday or Friday :D lol. Past 2h been doing the character. Not got far lol, as its been very difficult to get the look im wanting which im still not sure i want yet. The character so far isnt worth posting yet as it doesnt look that good and not that far, and i cant figure out how the hell to save a render lol :p.

Hopefully get a good ammount done to tomorrow on both the character and the scene.

[gauravcg]

OMG....ull surely need some time on texturing... :P
but im still waiting for you image title!!!! :D