Tjerk Otten - The Lost Jungle -

[tjerkotten]

Hi Everybody,

Its been a while since i participated in a challenge, but i liked this one so here is my progress of The Lost Jungle. I like the idea of the maya unfluence, so i quess ill work on that. Here are the reference pictures and the first progress sheet. Hope you like it so far... Updates will be up tommorow....

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/5595/referencepictures.jpg


http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/9682/firstprogress.jpg

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Good to see you back and good to see you participating in the challenge :) It's been too long Tjerk....it really has :)

[tjerkotten]

Good to see you back and good to see you participating in the challenge :) It's been too long Tjerk....it really has :)

Hi CG, yeah its been too long indeed. I have been involved with many different projects and i relocated to a bigger studio and developed my own art line which is selling pretty well. I just wanted to come back and produce some matte painting for a cool contest :) Doing something different again...

[DaddyDoom]

Whoa!
Great so see ya back Tjerk! Can't wait to see some serious kickass start-ups :D

[tjerkotten]

Here is another wip sheet. Hope you like it... There will be more tonight...

http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/9013/lightingshadows.jpg

[tjerkotten]

Whoa!
Great so see ya back Tjerk! Can't wait to see some serious kickass start-ups :D

Hi Daddy, its been a while . Nice to see you still check out my work. I hope you like the new updates....

[atulkatdare]

awesome!
i liked it very much. thanks a lot for posting the detailed making. good luck!!

[tjerkotten]

Hi, Here is another update. More will be up soon....

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/2750/addingmoreobjects.jpg

[hulahuga]

Yay tjerk goes painting again :) (and showing it on the forum).

Let's see where you take this..

[tjerkotten]

Here is another update...Hope you like it..More to come tonight..

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/3851/treepath.jpg

[tjerkotten]

Another Update. I will upload the near final piece in a few hours...

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3941/skullandcreatures.jpg

[tjerkotten]

Here is the near final piece. Hope you like it....

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/7503/thelostjunglebytjerkott.jpg

[DaddyDoom]

Awesome progress!

[adamos]

you must look out on bluring. Some parts are more blur than other this same with grain.

[Caeine]

Wow. I love you work. And I love how you show your WIP. It's really awesome you're taking the time to make all those instructional images, and I must say I learned a lot from it. Myself, I'm not really into matte painting, but looking at your work really gives me incentive and inspiration, and also some guidance as well :)

And about your work - like I said, it looks really good. All the details you added fit very well inside the scene. One thing I wanted to note is that orange leaf on the right side. While giving the scene depth, it takes out the focus from the scene. I suggest you make it blend more with the rest of the wood.

Anyway, great job, Tjerk!

[tjerkotten]

you must look out on bluring. Some parts are more blur than other this same with grain.

Its too blurred on the left side. I made a mistake there. I left a layer on top of another. I didn't noticed it untill you said it. Next update it will be deleted. Thank you very much..

[tjerkotten]

Wow. I love you work. And I love how you show your WIP. It's really awesome you're taking the time to make all those instructional images, and I must say ...........!

Great notion there. I will take a look at it. It increased depth, but indeed takes attention as well. Thanks a lot.

[cserbuj]

Good work. Good integration of elements.
Very "natural"....:)

[eydi]

Wow. I love you work. And I love how you show your WIP. It's really awesome you're taking the time to make all those instructional images, and I must say I learned a lot from it. Myself, I'm not really into matte painting, but looking at your work really gives me incentive and inspiration, and also some guidance as well :)

And about your work - like I said, it looks really good. All the details you added fit very well inside the scene. One thing I wanted to note is that orange leaf on the right side. While giving the scene depth, it takes out the focus from the scene. I suggest you make it blend more with the rest of the wood.

Anyway, great job, Tjerk!

Woow I like the concept :) Colours are looking good. Very detailed work :)

[BADDOOM]

Nice Style. watch at the scene and paint some sharper details left side.i think the orange leaf in front is out of scene. may you can recolor it or remove the leaf is the better way. Some parts are to blurry. I´m looking forward to the next steps.

Great Job.

[WhiteGuardian]

Wow, this is exotic scene, using tropical or maybe Asian culture. So far so good dude.
To make it dramatic, mistic and misterious, try to add purple or red fog to the scene.
Hope this can help you. :)

[chris_solo]

Nice picture composition and good integration, I think the render can be improved further ... for now the colors are too saturated, I'm not a big fan of fuzzy too ... but it's a choice. For me, work a little more mysterious ... it's my feeling.
> Nice work ;)

[CarlosNCT]

Great job man! ;)

[AGONIST]

Wow~!

Awesome prograss! Sorry my bed english

Good luck

[tjerkotten]

Hi Everybody,

here is another update. I tried to do something different here. I listened to the comments and i changed some elements so that the picture plays with the eyes a little more. Also i added some more mysterious parts to the picture.I also deleted the orange leaf and changed it with another plant to create the depth. I like it much better know. The eyes goes all around the picture. I will show a progress sheet soon. I hope you like this version better than the other.

Just for fun i will show the starting picture and the one i have now. Its always fun to see what happened in the meantime..

Here is the original picture

http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/1966/lostjungle0.jpg

Here is the last update ( There are some blue toning faults in the upperright , i will fix that )

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/7217/thelostjungleotherbytje.jpg

[huteford]

cool, man ,great work!
Can it show more depth of field?
right now is so bright~~
and sunny...

[tjerkotten]

cool, man ,great work!
Can it show more depth of field?
right now is so bright~~
and sunny...

Hi, thanks for comment. More depths of field, i can try that. I used the plant in front to create a depths of field and the picture is a bit bright, but it differs on displays and personally i kinda like it. Ill listen to every comments to and ill take it in concideration. Thanks for your opinion!

[inveni0]

Nice work. I think it looks really good so far. I don't really understand the glowing trees, but I think it would be a better effect if you had some heat distortion there and maybe some light smoke. Also, I don't much care for the light in the back of the image. That big opening makes it seem like you're walking away from something, instead of toward it (even though I see something big in the distance...it's very faint). This isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it takes a lot of the mystery away from the photo. It seems more like an image you'd take during a tour on vacation than an image that's supposed to entertain. If I were you, I'd focus on making that opening at the end of the walk a bit more looming. It doesn't have to be dark, but I'd certainly "bring it forward" so that we feel more like we're walking toward something we don't understand.

The blending and such looks really nice, though. Good technical work.

[tjerkotten]

[QUOTE=inveni0;783513]Nice work. I think it looks really good so far. I don't really understand the glowing trees, but I think it would be a better effect if you had some heat distortion there and maybe some light smoke. Also, I don't much care for the light in the back of the image. That big opening makes it seem like you're walking away from something, instead of toward it (even though I see something big in the distance...it's very......QUOTE]

Thank you very much. I actually like the light, but to add something as heat distortion is an amazing idea. I have to take a look if i can pull that off. Ill take it in consideration and try to get it better. Thank you

[chris_solo]

you're on the right path, keep the good work :)
The left is really good but I'm still skeptical about the saturation of colors ...

[DaddyDoom]

Nice progress Tjerk!
Are you gonna do some color grading in the end, adding a dominant hue or something? That might work in leveling the overall look of the image.
Keep up!

[Suirebit-3DT]

I think the scale and perspective of the statues&stairs is off, you need to rework them or find other statues in the right perspective. I would also get rid of that fire crack in the tree (or whatever it is) and adjust the contrast on statues.

Another thing that bothers me is that light is coming from all over the places; for instance the right tree has light coming from right, the statues have light coming from left (and too strong for a forest) and the forest itself has light coming from front...

Last but not least, I agree with what was said about the far away opening/light. I think that if you remove it, half the lighting issues are solved.

Don't get me wrong, the only reason I'm posting this is because I think this image has potential and could qualify if you work on what I just said :)

[tjerkotten]

Hi Everybody, i listened to the comments and i want to share my new concept. There are alot of tiny mistakes in here, but i first want to know what you think of the project going in this " darker " direction. If people like it, i will build on this further.

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/9914/thelostjunglelightsbytj.jpg

[hulahuga]

Nah, the colors look odd when you do this.

The coolness before relied on the bloom and lightning...

Get back revising ;)

[tjerkotten]

Nah, the colors look odd when you do this.

The coolness before relied on the bloom and lightning...

Get back revising ;)

Hi, I liked the bloom effect as well, but people are complaying on the light background and the light coming from everywhere. When i remove the light from the background or change it to a more normal one, the scene looks odd... When i make i more dark, i like it as well, but its different

[2BIG3k]

Hi,

I'd prefer the dark one with torches lighting the path and some volumetric moon light entering the forrest. Either way, good luck. :)

[tjerkotten]

hi everybody, here is an update for the more mystic version.

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/8028/thelostjungletmbytjerko.jpg

[tjerkotten]

[QUOTE=Suirebit-3DT;783586]I think the scale and perspective of the statues&stairs is off, you need to rework them or find other statues in the right perspective. I would also get rid of ..........QUOTE]

Hi, i changed alot. What do you think of it at the moment? I personally like the daylight version more. Although this darker version first the topic a bit better...

[hulahuga]

You don't have to take away all those lights, what if you just lower some of them...

[DaddyDoom]

I like it!

[tjerkotten]

Hi Everybody,

i had some more time to work on everything now. I changed some things. I did not like the lights on the sticky bones and the way everything was working to the back. Because of this the focus was too much on the background. Also i deleted some elements from the scene, because i did a little bit too much with it. Its more subtle know. I know it is different from what everybody else is making.

They are making the more traditional digitalle matte paintings, but i liked to used the technique in a different way. I hope that you like this last update and ill continue to make minor adjustments.

The idea of the light bulbs came from a somehow futuristic vision. When people think of aztek of egyptian culture alot of people believe they get there knowledge from the " aliens " and so i liked the idea of lightbulbs in a forest with no electric wiring.

Here is the picture and hope you like it.

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/5804/thelostjunglelightshado.jpg

[BADDOOM]

Looks better and better...one major thing is the blur. behind the statue at the left the bg is too blurry. the skull looks awesome but off the picture..so may you can sharpen the stone rock and paint some shadows. the bright green leaf at the right behind the tree looks off...because there is no attachment to nothing. My eyes follows the path into the BG, may you can add another Statue there or something bigger mysterious thing.

you have to watch carefully to the perspective and scaling issues at the floor near the stairs in the right side off the picture. the grass and leafes are too big and blurry in comparision to the stairs i think.

AHH and the light bulbs are great...but may you can add a distort there (hot light bulb^^) or an attachment to the socket.

I hope you understand me...my english is not so good.

I like your picture more and more...and hope i can help you a little bit.

CHEERS

[2BIG3k]

Still a nice scene. But now I couldn't tell if it's night or day, probably due to the strongly lit/backlit plants on the right (which looks really nice by itself).

[DaddyDoom]

I like it.
Maybe you can add some sort of effect on the light coming from the bulbs, as if its powered by plasma energy or something. It needs something to give it a more "alien" look.
And maybe some bugs flying around it, like Moths and mosquitoes.
But I like it.

[chris_solo]

Nice work, you made a nice progression!!
Your project will be in my favorites!

[tjerkotten]

I like it.
Maybe you can add some sort of effect on the light coming from the bulbs, as if its powered by plasma energy or something. It needs something to give it a more "alien" look.
And maybe some bugs flying around it, like Moths and mosquitoes.
But I like it.

Awsome idea. Bugs could help. Ill try it out. I actually like this version as well. Ill build on this.

[tjerkotten]

Looks better and better...one major thing is the blur. behind the statue at the left the bg is too blurry. the skull looks awesome but off the picture..so may you can sharpen the stone rock and paint some shadows. the bright green leaf at the right behind the tree looks off...because there is no attachment to nothing. My eyes follows the path into the BG...........

Thank you for your comment. I was trying to put in the maya calender , but got a little tired of looking at my screens :). Ill try to put something in the background, another statue or something else... My eyes stay more in the foreground, but ill try to bring it more to the front. Thank you!

[tjerkotten]

Still a nice scene. But now I couldn't tell if it's night or day, probably due to the strongly lit/backlit plants on the right (which looks really nice by itself).

The plants should be reworked. I Agree. Well, ill go and tweak some more :)

[tjerkotten]

Nice work, you made a nice progression!!
Your project will be in my favorites!

Well thats great!

[chunkymunky]

Superb image breakdowns and progressions indeed, I'm loving the point at which you are at the moment, I agree with DD that it could use some more glows and some insects flying around, the atmosphere you've created is really good though.

[tjerkotten]

Hi Everybody,

So i listened and i tried to make it better by doing something different.

I added the always mysterious maya calender in there. I like it, because the maya calender fortold that the end of the world would come in 2012. People also believe the maya & egyptian culture to have connections with aliens.

I liked the idea of an ( alien like maya calender statue ) that would be sort of the main source giver of all knowledge and power.

I hope you like this version even more. I like the fact that my eye goes back and forth now and that it makes it more mysterious.

http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/1843/thelostjunglebytjerkottz.jpg

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Looking incredibly good :) Superb work as always matey!

[lordloki]

good work:dance:

[mapper724]

IN-FREAKIN-CREDIBLE, it's wicked awesome.

[M_Cederstrom]

wow this looks great... :D I get the feeling like you in the tomb or cave and for some odd reason in a great vegetation in there. :D maybe you can add 2 more torches in there some where.

[tjerkotten]

wow this looks great... :D I get the feeling like you in the tomb or cave and for some odd reason in a great vegetation in there. :D maybe you can add 2 more torches in there some where.

Hi Cederstrom,

Thank you for commenting and you have a nice vision as well. I could be in a tomb, its a cool idea. A jungle inside of a tomb. It could be true...

[hulahuga]

The dragonfly is interesting, what if you directed a bit more light to it than to the plant underneath it?

[tjerkotten]

The dragonfly is interesting, what if you directed a bit more light to it than to the plant underneath it?

Its a mosquito, but i will work on it. Thank you for comment

[hulahuga]

Ah okay. Reminds me of Jurassic Park... ;)

[BADDOOM]

WOHOWWW...looks great...may add some dust particles and or flying sparks to the scene.

[DaddyDoom]

Rock Awesome!

[Suirebit-3DT]

it works well as mood, but your volumetrics are still wrong, as well as the lights. For instance the torch/light in the statue hand should lit it's entire head, whereas the center part of the image is too bright (should be in a fall off)

Imagine this was a movie scene where Lara croft/Indiana Jones enters the tomb. Would you believe the scene, as it is now?

What you need to do is to draw some lines from all the light sources and then see where they intersect and then create shadows and lights accordingly :)

[tjerkotten]

[QUOTE=Suirebit-3DT;784420]it works well as mood, but your volumetrics are still wrong, as well as the lights.................QUOTE]

I understand what your saying. Im still working on the lighting and you are very right on the statue's face. but im going to work on it. Perhaps its too bright, but it differs from one computer screen to the other. My studio monitors are calibrated and it looks good, but on my laptop it looks very bright. Ill try to fix it though... Thank you very much

[tjerkotten]

Hi Everybody,

Its nice to see that people are sharing thought and ideas. Its always good to see people having nice conversation and expanding visions. I didn't have much time today, but i did want to work a little bit on the lighting and details as promised. I worked on the shadows in various parts of the piece. I did some perspective changes on the left stairs and i adjusted the stone path a little to get it more right. The lighting on the statue has been changed a little and the overal picture is a little bit darker. I hope you like it...

Here it is...

I want to share the original starting point of this scene again. This is for the people that don't want to scroll back the thread and want to see both pictures together. Sometimes its amazing to see that the original picture is almost gone :)

The Original Photograph

http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/1966/lostjungle0.jpg

And here is the update...

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/7503/thelostjunglebytjerkott.jpg

[OcheevaSithis]

pretty good work

[wargrafix]

I really liked the fact that although the reference image was used, its effect on the overall image was so subtle that had i not seen the reference image, I would not have know.


Its also got a ton of atmosphere which makes it look like something else is going on. Good job!
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[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Seriously good transformation, the final peice will be great i'm sure.

[Vatsel]

I think you should study lighting more.
as it looks now the light sources are undefined (they dont affect their surroundings correctly) and look artificial.

do still lifes and draw from life more.

[thefmilyofblood]

Nice work, though the lighting still needs work.

[rofiqalfata]

here's my comments...

[TheSaraf]

Looks interesting, like some cool jungle discoteque...;) Good luck..

[Rievilo]

Technically your work is great !
People mentioned some things to changed, but it's a good work : composition, integration of pictures.
About the idea, I feel the mysterious Aztec place. Personally I prefer spooky moods, darker. but it's personal.
Your work is cool to observe.
You're doing well !
Have fun !

[washka]

Nice work here.
I prefer the ambient/atmoshpere of your starting ones, more green, less dark.

rofiqalfata +1 I agree about its comments

Here are somes of my comments, hope it can help you:
Sometimes when you play too much with lightning/shadow onto a picture, it adds blur and you get some sort of "smooth" and "soft" result, you kill the details.
How can you counter that? Adding materia or grain on top of it, or using others lightning techniques.
The skulls catch too much the eye, maybe it's wanted, but it pop out too much. Level of details, scale it down 80%.
If you're going dark (some kind of cave) may I suggest a few more big roots (background and foreground)?
The flower/vegetal on the right side is kinda floating and too big, it's not working with the rest of your composition, another place or delete.

Hey man, this is some really good job, keep it up!

[tjerkotten]

here's my comments...

Hi,

I know that the shield is not lid corretly at the moment. I have to remove the original lights from the statue. The Maya Calender is casting light because it has some mysterious light elements inside of the stone of the calender itself, so the calender is not lid by the other 2 lights. Than it would look weird. The skulls do cast shadows, but you can only see it in the bigger version, so perhaps i can make them more visible.... Thank you for you comment.

[tjerkotten]

[QUOTE=washka;784639]Nice work here.
I prefer the ambient/atmoshpere of your starting ones, more green, less dark.

rofiqalfata +1 I agree about its comments

Here are somes of my comments, hope it can help you:
Sometimes when you play too much with lightning/shadow onto a picture, it adds blur and you get som...................QUOTE]


When i go for a more realistic lighting i have to make it more dark. The Skulls are the main " characters " of the piece and i want them in there like that. I will create a quick mock-up in 3D to see how the lighting falls in there. Thank you for your comment and hope you still like the scene....

[tjerkotten]

Technically your work is great !
People mentioned some things to changed, but it's a good work : composition, integration of pictures.
About the idea, I feel the mysterious Aztec place. Personally I prefer spooky moods, darker. but it's personal.
Your work is cool to observe.
You're doing well !
Have fun !

Thank you very much. There are always differences in opinions and personally i like where im at, but ill try some things out.

[paulius-st]

nice concept . well i'm not a mate painter so i will not go in to technical crits or similar but lighting need some serious work. shadows are missing all over the place. its a forest. a deeo jungle, and it is not completely drk in there so a little sun light from the sky coming through the forests leaths would come in handy, and some shadows that are casted from the various objects in the scene. and there is some saturation issue as i see. the jungle looks saturated and dark, though pasted objects are so blank and bright . compared to the background they look out of place.
sory for not perfect english :) .
good luck, it has potential

[Tarik2d]

Hi, got ur pm. I'm sorry I don't do much Matt painting I'm sure these guys know more than I do.

[tjerkotten]

I have worked on the digital matte and i changed alot to change the mood alittle. People were not liking some stuff and they thought the lighting was wrong, so i worked on that and changed the lighting. I have to work a little on the maya calender, but overal i think the lighting should be much better now. Perhaps i bring back 1 lightbulb. Ill update tonight. I put the focus more on the snails and the skull , because i actually liked the snails and people wanted to see the light coming from somewhere so therefore i changed it.

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/6688/lostjunglenearfinal.jpg

[tjerkotten]

Hi Everybody,

Im still working on the image and i added another statue in front that would fit better with the picture. I will upload it in a few hours.

I hope you don't mind me sharing my new studio im creating these projects in. Im also working here when im doing my freelance jobs and i just love it. Its not done 100%, but it will be. I worked for 5 to 6 years behind a small desk , but because i got more work i could design a new studio and my father who is an amazing craftman created my design as you see on the picture. The whole back wall is from wood, so i can put my wires inside of that. I thank him with all my heart for doing that, because i start everyday with a smile :).

Hope you like it too..

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/2489/studiotjerkotten.jpg

[tjerkotten]

Here is the update. Hope you like it...

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/6688/lostjunglenearfinal.jpg

[Raul]

back in the day, when i was young and had nothing to do ( god i miss those days! lol ) i used to play a lot of turok and Pitfall. This is what this reminds me off. Its a nice piece. But it feels too busy. There are so many things in this picture, is nice to look at. However, it feels too dark. Perhaps you need to transition from cold to hot from the bottom up, and still retain what you have there.

Adding rays of ligth may help bring balance to the left side of the piece.

Im not a matte painter....so i cant really give u much feedback. Good works man, keep them up!

[AndreasOlsen]

Amazing studio you have there! must be amazing working there! gief :)
Ohh, and awsome mattepainting skills, looking forward to the final image

[tjerkotten]

Here is another update. I removed the second statue, because it was getting a little bit too crowded in the picture. And for the people that thought the scene was too dark i made it lighter with extra lightrays and made the light more warm.The sky is a bit too blurred so perhaps i am going to look for another sky, but i hope you like it..

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/7814/thelostjungleindy.jpg

[tjerkotten]

I personally feel that the picture should breath more lost in sense of colour. I changed the colour to a little more autumn color scheme. Here it is...

http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/4683/thelostjunglespring.jpg

[Z3D]

Amazing man!
the last one has a shade of red that was missing
=]

[chunkymunky]

The latest alternative colouring is the best so far IMO :)

[Tank[NL]]

nice work so far, tjerk. couldnt respond sooner. my keyboard is MIA.

i think the statue could do with a bit of damage. everything else is touched by time and decay. it makes the statue stand out. dont know if this is intentional(in a sort of: epic statue dont care bout time: kinda way), but if it is, it should be a bit more obvious.

otherwise, it needs damage ;)

[tjerkotten]

[QUOTE='Tank[NL];784934']nice work so far, tjerk. couldnt respond sooner. my keyboard is MIA.

............QUOTE]

Hi Tank.

I put a dirtmap on the statue to match it more with the environment. Hope you like it...

[tjerkotten]

Here is another update. I put a dirtmap on the statue, reworked some shadow spots and some other minor mistakes....Hope you like it...

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/4683/thelostjunglespring.jpg

[Tank[NL]]

much better. i liek the way the eye stands out now.

nice work

[DaddyDoom]

The color grading works fine. Only those skulls on the rock seem a bit out of place now.
Keep up the good work dude :)

[2BIG3k]

Very good progress. I like the new colors and the much more mysterious feeling.
I would put the rock with the skulls partly in shadow of the big tree to make it stand out a little less. And the integration of the slabs still needs some work in a few places.

[odell5]

i like this new color correction, keep it up!

[odell5]

By the way, your studio looks sooo cool. I start to be jealous that you work in such a nice place ;)

[tjerkotten]

By the way, your studio looks sooo cool. I start to be jealous that you work in such a nice place ;)

Thank you very much. I worked hard to get it this way, but im very glad with it.

[himadri_sm]

the last image looks really good...you did very well since the first image...

[washka]

[Quote] Yeah I still like the scene, but I even prefer your last one, it's working better.
Nice job!

[tjerkotten]

Thanks for the comments. I really like the new coloring as well. I made some changes and tried to do something dynamic to the picture. I Know the shadow of the stone beneath the skulls is off, but im still working on that For now. Here it is...

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/4549/thelostjungleautumn.jpg

[paulius-st]

much better. i like some small details as the snake.
thoug i have some crits :)
some parts such as bushes far away in the back of the image are to clean and pops out of the picture. the same goes for the sculs, that big obelisk, snake.
as for the snake - its beautiful but its too clean and detailed compared to objects around it.
a slight blur for the obelisk and the bushes near it would make the scene more real and give the sence deph. as for the sculs - they are too clean .
resume of my words would be - equalize qality of the objects in the scene. now it looks good but not enough good. and fix that part in top left of the obelisk . it looks way off . either there are branches of the tree or some one thought that its a enormous coockie and bit that part off. :D
keep up the good work. good luck

[tjerkotten]

much better. i like some small details as the snake.
thoug i have some crits :)
some parts such as bushes far away..........


Yeah, the big maya'n cookie monster took it. That *******!

[DaddyDoom]

Looking great Tjerk!
All seems to fit properly now, and the golden color grading toned it to the right mood.
Fantastic piece and good luck with it :D

DD

[tjerkotten]

Here is an update and the full composition with close up shots.

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/348/thelostjunglecomposit.jpg

[DaddyDoom]

Awesome close ups dude!
Loving every bit of it :D
Good luck on this man.
DD

[2BIG3k]

The snails are gone :( ...other than that good work ^^

[Pedro Jatobá]

awesome composition... with a great resolution ... congratulations m8 !

[wargrafix]

Looks awesome! Really awesome~
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[Alisor]

Nice light and shadow constrast.

[tjerkotten]

@ Pedro Jatoba Thank you for watching

@ Wargrafix Thank you so much

@ Alisor Great! Thanks you for your support

[Kage]

First of all, I have to say that studio is amazing... its no wonder you get so much inspiration in there. It looks so clear/almost mesmerizing. Loving that design on the wall, and what room is finished, without a piano :D

Really nice work you've done on this

Do I have it right, that you have used pictures to create the painting, with some editing etc? No 3D models at all?

[M_Cederstrom]

there is so much detail and imagination in this pieces of work. :D right on.

[tjerkotten]

First of all, I have to say that studio is amazing... its no wonder you get so much inspiration in there. It looks so clear/almost mesmerizing. Loving that design on the wall, and what room is finished, without a piano :D

Really nice work you've done on this

Do I have it right, that you have used pictures to create the painting, with some editing etc? No 3D models at all?

With the technique of digital matte you create something from your imagination with the use of photographs. By editing all of it you can create what you want. Its something i did a few years back when i was working for mad olive studios and i wanted to try it again. Its been 2 years or so since i actually had the time to create a digital matte like this...

Most of the time a digital matte is used as a background setpiece and 90% of the time a digital matte is a helicopter view. I tried to do something else and put myself on the ground. Thanks for your comment Kage.

I have sad it alot, but also to you.. Its been too long Kage :)

[tjerkotten]

Hi Everybody,

Here is the Matte breakdown sheet. It contains all the layers that i used to put this piece together. All these layers are created from alot of photograph references and shadow & light layers.

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/930/layerbreakdown.jpg

[hulahuga]

Wow. Turned out awesome :). The leaves and lightning gives it a sense of movement and activity, real neat!

[DaddyDoom]

Finally!
Awesome piece dude, and good luck for the challenge :D

DD

[alexia]

really beautiful~~ i like your lighting.

[chunkymunky]

Stunning with rich detailing and atmospheric lighting :)

[BADDOOM]

keep an eye at the blend issue in the front of the picture near the stone and statue.
And may you can add some life...a snake or something different.

The Maya calender looks off...an attachment could help.

but at all...really stunning picture.

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Fantastic Tjerk, love it

[hulahuga]

Forgot to say it before.... I really like how you show every layer and such in your spreadsheets :)

[BADDOOM]

hey man

i mean that the maya calender is not part of the picture. the calender dont have any visual attachments to the scene. Its in the BG between the trees...may you can add a socket or something. at the moment it looks off the scene. (maybe too dark) somethings is strange with the object.

But i like your picture...and hope i can help you a little bit. be careful with the layer blends.

greeting BADDOOM

[chris_solo]

nice work!

[tjerkotten]

hey man

i mean that the maya calender is not part of the picture. the calender dont have any visual attachments to the scene. Its in the BG between the trees...may you can add a socket or something. at the moment it looks off the scene. (maybe too dark) somethings is strange with the object.

But i like your picture...and hope i can help you a little bit. be careful with the layer blends.

greeting BADDOOM

Its not the main subject in the scene and it is in a darker part of the forest. My personal feeling is that its actually part of the scene, just as much as i intended too. When i thought about what you said, i understood what you meant, but a stone like that could stand like that for numerous reasons. If there is a big stone behind the calender it would hold it up.

I showed it like this because the calender is always shown like this. Sometimes is has some broken stuff around it, but they never show an support from underneath it. The stone itself has some serious weight, so it could use itself as support as well. It doesn't bother me, but i understand what you mean.

Here are some picture that show the calender without a real support to hold it up.

http://www.carvedbydesign.com/photo_gallery/Maya%20Calender%201.JPG
http://94.100.120.145/823350001-823400000/823370301-823370400/823370357_5_jsjd.jpeg

[Tank[NL]]

dude, you are still the texture king. sweet work. cool details

[Dann-O]

Nice to see how you work on each layer and put it together very informative.

[songororongo]

Its not the main subject in the scene and it is in a darker part of the forest. My personal feeling is that its actually part of the scene, just as much as i intended too. When i thought about what you said, i understood what you meant, but a stone like that could stand like that for numerous reasons. If there is a big stone behind the calender it would hold it up.

I showed it like this because the calender is always shown like this. Sometimes is has some broken stuff around it, but they never show an support from underneath it. The stone itself has some serious weight, so it could use itself as support as well. It doesn't bother me, but i understand what you mean.

Here are some picture that show the calender without a real support to hold it up.

http://www.carvedbydesign.com/photo_gallery/Maya%20Calender%201.JPG
http://94.100.120.145/823350001-823400000/823370301-823370400/823370357_5_jsjd.jpeg

Hey Iliked most with the pyramid at the horizont, another thing, thats not the Mayan calendar, that's the Aztec calendar, is like saying the Big Ben in in New York. Nice work I really want to see this in top 3.

[tjerkotten]

Hey Iliked most with the pyramid at the horizont, another thing, thats not the Mayan calendar, that's the Aztec calendar, is like saying the Big Ben in in New York. Nice work I really want to see this in top 3.

Hi,

Well.. i searched on the mayan calender and everywhere on the internet they say its the mayan calender. Doesn't really matter what its called because the theme is about maya/aztek culture...

[TheSaraf]

Final matte is very strong. Good work. Good luck. :)

[tjerkotten]

Hi Everybody,

I updated some small elements. Not really visible in the smaller version. The spiderwebs are visible. I added some spiderwebs to give it a little bit more lost in time feel. Its a small elements, but hope you like it. I also wrote a small story for the picture. Sometimes i have the need to right something with a picture, because art is a big part of emotion...

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/4872/storyofthelostjungle.jpg

[hulahuga]

Nice story :). Close ups look really cool as well.


Ps: "mysterious" is misspelled... ;)

[tjerkotten]

Ps: "mysterious" is misspelled... ;)...

Already changed

[chunkymunky]

Loving that final image and the little backstory, such a warm and wonderous world you've created, well done :)

[hulahuga]

Real fun to go around the pic and look at all those details :)


Good job!!

[BBB]

tjerkotten, this is a professional work, and i think is one of the best WIP i ever saw

[Androgs]

nice final result, warm and mysterious in the same time :)

[spartan118]

Nice, the lighting is awesome... especially on the statue, great work man.

[tjerkotten]

Nice, the lighting is awesome... especially on the statue, great work man.

thanx :)

[tjerkotten]

Thanx to all the artists and people that helped us creating our paintings and when the next months challenge is a good one. Ill be working on a new matte paintings if i have the time....

[Moises Gomes]

Congratulations ... great work !!! =)

[hadz]

nice work keep up ..


HaDZ,,

[hadz]

nice work keep up ..


HaDZ,,

[Jojomondag]

Awsome work tjerkotten, this picture has a very nice atmosphere too it. Keep it up!

[Treboras]

I just saw the final image and I had to post a comment:

Really beautiful image, nice attention to detail and really awesome lighting!

5 stars from me! :D

[mikeb]

I like it.

If i really wanted to pick at it i would say to add magical dust sparkles in the air and think about the lighting on the round thing, maybe darker at the top, obscuring it a bit. Less is more and all that..