atulkatdare_The Lost Jungle

[atulkatdare]

hello frndz,

this is the second time im posting my matte on 3dtotal competition. i got to learn a lot frm you guyz in the previous challenge & ur comments did help me to improve my work & did boost me to participate again! so here i go for ' The Lost Jungle' theme...
[i know its too late but i was very busy for last couple of weeks @ my workplace so could not find enough time to work. i started this a week back & i wish i could finish it before the deadline.]

concept: tried to create an old, abandoned indian temples which are lost in the dark jungle and bit neglected by the citizens. however there is something mentioned in history regarding this place that it has a vital importance in ancient time. this attracts the sadhus (hindu saints) to visit this place for the hard course of worship. [still to develop further part of mystery]

here is the reference sheet:
jungle, abandoned temples etc.
http://i44.tinypic.com/n187if.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/n187if.jpg

other details, tree trunks, roots, animals etc.
http://i44.tinypic.com/ay3bja.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/ay3bja.jpg


edit: reference sheets n concept development

[atulkatdare]

composition:
http://i39.tinypic.com/bgcw1z.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/bgcw1z.jpg

color correction:
http://i41.tinypic.com/ml2frt.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/ml2frt.jpg

[2BIG3k]

Hey,

nice start, keep it up. :)

Be careful that it's not getting too overload.
For the next time I'd suggest that you make some kind of concept painting in the beginning to work out the composition.

good luck!

[atulkatdare]

Hey,

nice start, keep it up. :)

Be careful that it's not getting too overload.
For the next time I'd suggest that you make some kind of concept painting in the beginning to work out the composition.

good luck!

thanks a lot frnd, i'LL try to make it next time!

[BBB]

Also be careful with the lighting. The direction of the light in the left and right ruins are different. It will be difficult to fix these things once you have worked in the matte.

[Akim]

well, we got another last moment participant here, (same as me) whehe ))

wish you the good final before the deadline, man!

[Standesign]

Hey :)
Cool idea for this contest ! :)
BTW if I were you, for hiding the collision between these monuments : add some plants ;)
good luck and keep going on !!!

[atulkatdare]

Also be careful with the lighting. The direction of the light in the left and right ruins are different. It will be difficult to fix these things once you have worked in the matte.

dats right sir, matching the light is going to be very difficult part...i hope i'LL make it correctly.

[atulkatdare]

well, we got another last moment participant here, (same as me) whehe ))

wish you the good final before the deadline, man!

hey akim, thnx 4 ur good wishes. i hope i'LL finish it in time!

[atulkatdare]

Hey :)
Cool idea for this contest ! :)
BTW if I were you, for hiding the collision between these monuments : add some plants ;)
good luck and keep going on !!!

thnx a lot frnd, even i was planning to add sum tree or a broken pillar for hiding the collision. good suggestion btw...

[kaustavsinha]

Hi atulkatdare, :)

Nice progress so far! :) As for critique, I feel that, currently your matte has more monuments than the jungle; you might wanna' increase the density of the jungle, by adding trees in the foreground regions! :) Good luck! :)

Thanks!

[atulkatdare]

Hi atulkatdare, :)

Nice progress so far! :) As for critique, I feel that, currently your matte has more monuments than the jungle; you might wanna' increase the density of the jungle, by adding trees in the foreground regions! :) Good luck! :)

Thanks!

good call sir, im gonna add some fallen tree trunks, forest plants etc. in foreground. thanks a lot!

[atulkatdare]

Here im posting sum more updates, plz check n make comments on it.

w.i.p.03
http://i41.tinypic.com/296em8x.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/296em8x.jpg

w.i.p.04
http://i44.tinypic.com/14ybf5s.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/14ybf5s.jpg

tried to add some more trees, fallen tree trunks & roots & animals for forest effect,
made little adjustments wid lighting N did color corrections,
also, added some details like flags, trident etc. to look the scene mythological and get the hindu relegious feel.

[atulkatdare]

hello friends, here is another update:
[i know its timeout, so i wont be able to post it for competition but still getting fun working here...]

w.i.p.05
http://i40.tinypic.com/34dn705.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/34dn705.jpg


plz make lot of comments, critix n suggestions, thnx!
regards~atul k.

[2BIG3k]

You did a good job with assembling all those references with fitting light conditions and perspective. Still needs a lot of color correction tough. And as I mentioned before I think your image is much too crowded now, there is just so much stuff in there and no spot for the eye to settle.
I'd suggest to get rid of some structures or scale them down and put them more in the background, keeping in mind the composition. Then do the color correction stuff and try to introduce a consistent mood.

Good luck. :)

[atulkatdare]

You did a good job with assembling all those references with fitting light conditions and perspective. Still needs a lot of color correction tough. And as I mentioned before I think your image is much too crowded now, there is just so much stuff in there and no spot for the eye to settle.
I'd suggest to get rid of some structures or scale them down and put them more in the background, keeping in mind the composition. Then do the color correction stuff and try to introduce a consistent mood.

Good luck. :)

thanks a lot frnd, ur advice is really very helpful...
im planning to add more forest elements in foreground. some more trees, bushes & plants might give it a look of a dark forest. also, i'LL try to scale down sum structures widout harming the composition. i"ll post my update soon...

[yaRa]

ok ))))

My view:

1) Plants in right and left side of picture have different DOF. Try to find next time refferences with the same focal distsnce and same grain effect (the same quality).
The same suggestion for buildings ) Some of them looks further then they are, because of blur=focal distance
2) The composition is going to pieces. You can manage it, if you arrange it by accents.
The left building (with sadhu) could be major part.
You can do accents with the lite (brightness\contrsst). In example I picked out this building with a litlle square of grass on new layer, then I made it brighter. And another part (without this building) I filled with radial dark gradient.
You can do it by other way - to make it more natural )))

3) You should work with colours too... Left part is cold, right - is warm now.

In general you have interesting work! Perspective is good ) And I like roots everywhere!

))))

[tjerkotten]

Hi atluka,

You asked me for my help and i will help you with my vision.

I will sum up the things that are not going to work and some things that are great and that you should keep.

The aspect ratio is wrong. The picture is much too wide. Therefor the eye is looking everwhere and you have no idea what is going on in the picture.

In a good matte painting there is always a focal point. A milestone inside the picture. Something the eye keeps going to because it gets your attention everytime. Because you have so much main focal points it doesn't work. You have alot of great impressive trees. Different great ruin structures. Its not fitting together.

My advice would be to cut the picture in half. The left side is not important. You should remove the guy that is sitting in the middle. Keep the monkey's on the right. They are great. They create the jungle feel. If you want a character in your piece you should use him to create somewhat of a story in your piece. You could put a sliout of a person inside the building, like a gravedigger or a treasure hunter. The lighting should be more dramatic and the colouring in general could use more depth.

usually i show the idea's with an actual quick concept to show how it would help the picture. Here it is. Hope you understand what im trying to say here...

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/8710/digitalpaintindianhelp.jpg

[atulkatdare]

@yaRa & tjerkotten...

thnx a lot frndz, i appreciate ur help & thank u for all the efforts u took to improve my matte. ur comments n suggestions are very helpful. i wish to get ur advice on all my upcuming projects. thnx.

[andrewhall1234]

HI Atulkatdare,

I'd be happy to give a few suggestions, but i'm not half as knowledgable than you guys.
I think Tjerkotten covered most of it. I didn't like the second building from the left, it looked desaturated and out of place, as said before it was too wide also. If you take on some of the other advice from tjerkotten and some others, i'm sure it'll look amazing.

Good luck