Movie Mashup - "What If Pixar Did Back To The Future?" - Classicgamer-3DT

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-2DPixarBTTFLogo.jpg

OK well it's been far too long since I did any real modelling. And I just couldn't resist this challenge so i'm going all out for this one.

The film i've chosen is Back To The Future Part II, it is by far one of my alltime favourite films and indeed trilogy's ever! The twist is i'm making it a Pixar/3D cartoon version.

What if Pixar did Back To The Future? well this is hopefully what i'll try to create.

I'm also hoping to create the following:

Cafe 80's Exterior
Cafe 80's Interior (but only viewable from the outside)
Marty McFly Character
Mattel Hoverboard
DeLorean DMC 12 parked outside the Cafe 80's
& a few surrounding buildings and video wall with Goldey Wilson III on etc.

The plan is to have the DeLorean, Cafe 80's in the background and Marty McFly flying off the hoverboard lol.

As always I will be modelling within Cinema 4D 11.5 using Advanced Render 3 for my renders, they'll be a little (but not much) post done in Adobe Photoshop for colour corrections and compositing etc. Texturing will be a mix of shaders, CGtextures.com and 3Dtotal texture CD's.

Reference pictures are from my Trilogy DVD boxset, strangely there's not a great deal of closeups or long shots on the buildings, but there's quite a few details that are the same from the 1955 Lou's Cafe aswell which i've captured to help with detailing.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-2DReferencePicturesShe.jpg

The sketch in this references sheet is not mine it's from deviantart by a much more talented artist going by the name of scoundreldaze.

Here's my awful concept sketch......as you can tell it's been some time since I sketched!

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-2DScannedConceptSketch.jpg

I hope to update this thread later on today with something blocked out or modelled. Not quite sure what to start yet, the set, the car or the character :wall: I hope I can deliver :wave:

Kind Regards

CG.

[chunkymunky]

Oh wow cool idea! Loving the title you've created, I like how you;ve matched the Pixar logo with the same style as the BTTF one :) I'm looking forward to seeing the Pixar style adopted to BBTF :)

Cool.

[paulius-st]

good idea. :)
good luck :)

[DaddyDoom]

Cool idea Classic!
I suggest you stylize your Pixar McFly a bit more though.

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Cheers guys, DD I thought about trying to make my Marty look like Michael J Fox so a little Pixar....a little caricature..... a little cartoon 3D style....we'll see. But i've no idea really as my success with organics/characters hasn't been great...but this is what these challnges are all about, testing your might as it were and trying new things. I've already built a Hoverboard before as a test, I will be starting from scratch all over again :)

[xxxcubanxxx]

cool idea, really looking forward to seeing how you tackle this one.

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

cheers matey

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Righto, here's what i've got so far, thought I'd start with what i'm most comfortable with first which is buildings, so here's my start on the Cafe 80's. Fairly happy with the start of this so far, hope to update more later today or tommorow.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DCafe80sExteriorCo-1.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DCafe80sExteriorCompo.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DCafe80sExteriorCo-2.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DCafe80sExteriorCo-3.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DCafe80sExteriorCo-4.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DCafe80sExteriorCo-5.jpg

About 2 1/2 hours work here so far.

Kind Regards

CG.

[VersionThirst]

Looking really good so far.

One issue I could see coming up with the judges; the challenge is 'Movie Mashup' - to match up two movies. Back to the Future is one movie, but Pixar isn't a movie.

Pixar has made many movies and each has a little different style than the next. I think for this to work, you'd need to choose one Pixar movie and base your character and scene style on that particular movie.

I've made a quick sheet of Pixar humans from different movies; you can see that there are some similarities between characters, but there are many different styles.

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Good point, the style i'm going for is Disney Pixar's Up style, the style isn't all that cartoony with exception to the characters, it's basically going to be slightly realistic modelling but shaded and textured in a 3D cartoony style similar to that of Up.

In other words I won't be having over the top stylisations, the building will look similar to that in the reference images but brighter and more colourful if you get my meaning :) If you take the old's guy's house in Up it looks like a real house but it's textured and coloured in a vibrant style.

[chunkymunky]

Good start, nice overall wireframes and detailing :)

[xxxcubanxxx]

Very clean start, keep it up.

[The Prime]

Up To The Future...

Quite a poignant title really, as everything thing is decided by the future.

Back To The Up... Sounds like an Eminem album title, skip it :)

[hulahuga]

Neat modeling. Good to see some stuff from you :D

[bgen]

diggin the style of u're modelling so far CG, love the theme u selected as well.
definitly one of the best movies of all time back to the future, that is.

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Cheers guys, yeah BTTF is my alltime fave trilogy ever :) I never get bored watching it. I know too much about it and many many scenes etc :)

[chichiri]

Cool idea and you're already modelling! I wonder how you'll model the characters from Back to future with the Pixar style.

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Only gonna model Marty McFly, but yeah it's got me wondering if I can pull it off. Hopefully I will.

[DaddyDoom]

Nice starters CG!
Cant wait to see some organics :D Good luck on that bro!

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

That's matey.....I'll surely need it :)

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Righto, here's the glass & green check building with video wall progress :)

The video in the film has Goldie Wilson III Hover car conversions, I will have a cartoon version of myself composited onto the background and placed on the video screen.


http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DGlassBuildingVideoWa.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DGlassBuildingVide-4.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DGlassBuildingVide-2.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DGlassBuildingVide-4.jpg

With the correct camera angle this building will be across the road and directly behind the Cafe 80's building.

More updates to come later today/tonight :dance:

Kind Regards

CG

[DaddyDoom]

You're on fire dude :D

[hulahuga]

Great man :D
Keep it up!!!!

[gauravcg]

superb stuff....keep going!

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

more to come soon......i'm trying to put off the character modelling as long as possible :) But i've made a start on the DeLorean too. I will be modelling the DeLorean high poly to get all the right shapes etc. It'll be stylised, chunky and squashed up :) The apparatus at the rear won't be alot though because you'll only really see the front and side of the car at the camera angle i've got.

[Dann-O]

Nice work on the building want to see your DeLorean. Buildings are my weak area.

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

OK then, here's the DeLorean as mentioned..... fairly high poly but it won't be mesh smoothed so it's looking ok to me. There's some issues with the smoothness of the bodywork so far but most flaws won't be that visible from the distance it'll be from the camera.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DDeLoreanComposite-10.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DDeLoreanComposite-9.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DDeLoreanComposite-5.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DDeLoreanComposite-4.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DDeLoreanComposite-3.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DDeLoreanCompositeRen.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DDeLoreanComposite-1.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DDeLoreanComposite-6.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DDeLoreanComposite-7.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DDeLoreanComposite-8.jpg

[DaddyDoom]

Are you taking inspiration from the one Stroggank did? That one was win :D

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Yes exactly! his version of the DeLorean was one of THE best i've ever seen :)

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

The beauty of having so many different elements in this is that when I get frustrated or bored with one section I can move onto the other. For instance after several hours this afternoon playing with the DeLorean and the Video wall building, i'll probably make a start on the Hoverboard soon as i've already built that before and starting from scratch won't be too hard......once you've built something before you can learn from any mistakes you made the first, second or third time around etc :)

[hulahuga]

Apart from the delorean are the concepts all yours for the combo?? :O

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

What do you mean apart from the DeLorean?

Everything is going to be combined together to make one big scene.

EDIT: I get what you mean, is everything i've thought of my own idea's? Yes the DeLorean is based off the strongtank style, but was always gonna be that way to be inkeeping with the Pixard Up theme :)

[hulahuga]

I haven't checked out Stroggtank's take yet, but you and DD said it was a bit similar or at least based on it...


Ah cool :D And yes your edit was what I meant ;). Darn forum chats :P

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

That's all cool matey :)

[hulahuga]

:D.

Done any sketching except for Marty??

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Not really as my sketching ability is not the best at all sadly. But I have created this video wall image which is my likeness depicted as Goldie Wilson III :)

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-2DClassicgamerVideo-1.jpg

I created this in photoshop, it took me about an hour..... as you can tell I don't draw digitally or traditionally alot, in fact it's been a long long time since i've done this kinda thing, but as it's not going to be that big I think it look ok :)

Kind Regards

CG

[hulahuga]

Cool :).
The different fonts look good but I am not sure about the background of "CONVERSIONS"...

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

yeah I agree but it was similar to the original look......

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/GoldieWilsonTheThird.jpg

So not sure whether to change it of improve it a little bit more.

[hulahuga]

Ahaaaa...
Well increase the size of "you" and add that glow as well as shine and it will look great :D. You need to use the full space...

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

yeah I think you're right, I forgot about the glow actually good point :)

[hulahuga]

You could add a little I after classicgamer just for the heck of it as well ;). Might be more as well since it is the future... :P

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

A tweak here and there and voila!

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-2DClassicgamerVideo-1.jpg

Hoverboard images coming very soon :)

[hulahuga]

Good :). Now raise hover a tiny bit...
The lash at the end there seems a bit odd, but if you like it that's ok ;)

[gauravcg]

running along nicely....and gr8 style!

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

I like the lash at the end, but agree with hover text needs placing up a little. More updates to come very soon......

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DHoverboardComposi-5.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DHoverboardComposi-7.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DHoverboardComposi-6.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DHoverboardComposite0.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DHoverboardComposi-1.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DHoverboardComposi-3.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DHoverboardComposi-4.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DHoverboardComposi-9.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DHoverboardComposi-10.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DHillValleyComposite0.jpg

That's it for today, tommorow there's some work being done on our street and the power will be off from 9am to 3pm so i'll be really missing out of modelling opportunity and very anxious to carry on tommorow night lol.

[paulius-st]

nice progres. good clean modeling. waiting for character to come out to play :)
good luck and ceep up the good fast work :)

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

I'm really worried about the character..........lol....but if I don't try i'll never do it.

[paulius-st]

man your fast on replies :) . why woried??? as i've seen earlyer you have good modeling skills, and you can draw. the rest is just a proces.

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Going to bed now, in answer i'm worried because my previous character/organic attempts have failed miserably....but I have the 3DTotal character modelling tutorials which helped ALOT and I have a keen understanding but i've not put that understanding to much practice until now :)

More to follow tommorow night then, until then thanks!

[Tarik2d]

fast progress here :)

[chichiri]

You're a fast modeller. You have one month to do your organic model, I'm sure you'll manage to.

[Martin_x]

So far looks awesome

[DaddyDoom]

Great progress bro!
This reminds me of the old SMC/SAC challenges :D

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Oh yeah, I miss those

[hulahuga]

The hoverboard looks real good. Some hard edges here and there (mostly around the circular things..). This is turning out real nice!

[xxxcubanxxx]

Speedy Gonzales of modeling...

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Not had alot of time today to create alot so finally made a small start on Marty McFly and trying out some test textures on the hoverboard, still need to add the furry foot holder and foot disc on the Mattel logo side of the board and might have to redo some of the circular elements as they look a little too sharp, the hoverboard won't be very close up but I still wanna get it pretty good.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DHoverboardTestTextur.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DHoverboardTestTex-1.jpg

Marty is taking shape quite well, but is a REAL challenge for me, especially when it comes to his jacket which has all manner of different bits and bobs on it, and also the "power laces" nike trainers will be interesting too lol.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DMartyMcFlyComposi-2.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DMartyMcFlyComposi-1.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DMartyMcFlyComposi-3.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DMartyMcFlyComposite0.jpg

So far this is around 3-4 hours of work on Marty so it's a pretty slow progress with him :hmm: I'm delibertaly posing him as I go as I've never learn't rigging properly :( Marty all being well should be appearing to look slightly shocked as he's fallen on the hoverboard, whilst the hoverboard will be in the air somewhere behind him :)

Updates will come tommorow sometime, dependant on work etc. Most likely updates will be in the form on the DeLorean.

[paulius-st]

nice fast updates. nice texturing and a nice character. and you said you dont model organics well :) . but for now marty mcfly looks more like a bald bart simpson :) .
ceep up the good work :) cheers

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Yeah I know lol, the hair will be interesting, i'm hoping to have a nice parting and then a few flicks at the front and that should do for the hair, i'll be using the brush tool in Cinema 4D which is kind like sculpting.... (a little) it just makes organic object a little bit easier to control. I'm currently going through eyes stages at the moment trying to get something similar to Pixar's style, a few more tweaks in photoshop and I think i'll be ok with those.

The DeLorean is coming along nicely, i'm starting on the front and rear lights and the seats at the moment, alot of copying and shaping :)

Progress isn't that fast really, the total hours on the project at the moment in over 12.

[bgen]

man each time i come in your thread CG, my eyes pop out.
u sure are a speedy modeler sir !!! do u do anything else besides 3d modelling :D.
keep up the awsome updates.

[chichiri]

The character looks funny, i wonder how will be the DeLorean.

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

I've tried Mudbox and Zbrush a few times but only for small things that would be harder to do in Cinema 4D. I'm not a great digital painter or matte painter, I really really suck at texturing especially UV mapping and unwrapping, in fact the last time I used Mudbox was for a paper sweets bag adding crinkles and such to it and that was over 2 years ago if I remember correctly :)

DeLorean updates will be here very soon, but i'm feeling rather ill at the moment......hopefully it'll pass and i'll be back on track.

CG.

[chunkymunky]

Not bad at all :)

[Beindulin]

I'm really liking what you've done so far CG :D Marty looks funny *grins*

As far as unwrapping goes thats what Headus -http://www.uvlayout.com/ is for ;)

This is always one of the first posts I visit and you've always done something. Keep up the good work.

[hulahuga]

Marty thing is a start at least :). Pretty cute, needs some more personality to the silhouette... but that might come later.
Hoverboard texture looks neat :). Very sharp!

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

I think Marty will look better when i've finished some more details like the hair and his teeth etc. I'm pretty sure it'll come together pretty nicely.

I'm not really very happy with the lighting in Hill Valley just yet, but i'll change it later once more elements have been added in.......it still might look good once everything else is in the scene. I'm using an area light set up in the right hand corner or the scene with a touch of orange/yellow added and area shadows enabled.

Still not feeling too well, but here's the DeLorean progress as promised earier.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DDeLoreanComposite11.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DDeLoreanComposite12.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DDeLoreanComposite14.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DDeLoreanComposite15.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DDeLoreanComposite13.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DDeLoreanComposite16.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DDeLoreanComposite17.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DDeLoreanComposite19.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DDeLoreanComposite10.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DDeLoreanComposite18.jpg

Not sure when I finish the Delorean, whether to have one of the doors open to show a little bit of the interior. I'm not strictly going by the film, because the actual car parked outsite the Cafe 80's was Biff's Car, but i've no desire to build that, plus a little bit of creative license is ok I think :)

I'm dreading the rear section with the engine parts and Mr Fusion, there's so much to add in there lol.

I will update Marty later today/tonight....all dependant on how well i'm feeling.

CG.

[hulahuga]

You've certainly captured the Up style :). Looks great!
Get better soon!

[BSPjunkie]

Amazing work on the DeLorean!

Everything's coming along nice and fast :)

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

I'm feeling a little bit better, but this is the nature of type II diabeties, somedays you'll feel fine, then others you feel off it a little. I'm not looking forward to Thursday this week as i'm having a filling at the dentists so maybe i'm churned up a little about that, I hate the drill, it vibrates my entire head and sometimes hurts, so it's probably that. :( Ah well it's for the best.

[hulahuga]

Hehe, take care man ;).

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DMartyMcFlyUpdateC-2.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DMartyMcFlyUpdateComp.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DMartyMcFlyUpdateC-3.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DMartyMcFlyUpdateC-1.jpg

I'm really really pleased with the way Marty's hair and jacket have come out here, getting the textures right will be a challenge but so far so good I think :dance: I've noticed that there's a problem on his right leg or left on the render which i'll sort out for next time......no idea how to tackle the trainers :(

CG.

[hulahuga]

His wrists seem a bit weird, the shading seems off there...
Other than that I think the hair looks great :). Jacket looks neat as well, the tiny "things/folds" on the top and sleeves turned out great.

Boots could be done as pretty big with large straps on them...

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

yeah I agree, think i'll have to make the wrists larger.

[DaddyDoom]

Nice progress bro!
This is a huge step forward with your organics!!!

[xxxcubanxxx]

progress is looking good...

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Cheers everyone....i'm pretty happy with the progress, especially the jacket :)

[chichiri]

Nice work on the Delorean, I love you're style. i wonder how it will look, textured.

[paulius-st]

nice updates. marty now looks better :) dolorean looks superb :) hope you'll get better soon. i'm curious how this one will turn out in the end render :)

[Beindulin]

Marty's hair is a hoot :D and the jacket is great!

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

OK here's where I am so far with the DeLorean, alot of the rear engine details are just made up a little as you won't even see the rear of the car anyway, I've not done Mr Fusion yet.

Went to the Doctor's this afternoon as i've been sufferring with anxiety attacks and feeling churned up, it seems i'm still not completely over my mother's death which was New Year's Day and i'm on Anti Depresents......only need to take them when I get really really stressed out or have panic attacks, of which I had this morning and yesterday, I hoping I won't need to be on them for that long.... I just wish I could stop getting so worried about everything :wall:

Anyway, back on topic here's the screens and renders

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DDeLoreanComposite-2.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DDeLoreanComposite-12.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DDeLoreanComposite-14.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DDeLoreanComposite-13.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DDeLoreanComposite-15.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DDeLoreanComposite-11.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DDeLoreanComposite-19.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DDeLoreanComposite-18.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DDeLoreanComposite-17.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DDeLoreanComposite-16.jpg

CG

[DaddyDoom]

looking fab bro.
when you have all the car modeled, you could apply a taper distortion tool to it, to give that typical cartoon tapered look. Just a tiny amount. And that could work on the buildings and all objects too.

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Yeah I was thinking about something like that, maybe have the Cafe 80's curving over the top of the DeLorean parked outside and I could taper/warp the green building with the video wall a little bit too.

I'll try some deformers out later today and post the results :)

[Tarik2d]

Nice fast progress your making ClassicGamer

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Thank you matey :) Means alot

[RHedendahl]

Gonna be interesting to see when you doing the characters. We all know that you are really good at hard surface modeling.
But I can't remember you doing any character.
Looks good so far!

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Gonna be interesting to see when you doing the characters. We all know that you are really good at hard surface modeling.
But I can't remember you doing any character.
Looks good so far!

LOL you're not wrong :wall: i've tried many times but it's character creation which I really stuggle with.

Although i'm only doing ONE character which is Marty McFly. He'll be hard enough I think :)

[hulahuga]

This is looking amazing! :).
I really enjoy the sweeping wires.

Saddened to hear about your mother... Really feel for you.... it is how nature goes however.. We can't give up...

[chunkymunky]

I hope you put as much detail into the tires aswell, wanna see the treads and grips :) The engine stuff at the back looks great and really detailed. I don't think it will matter if it's right of not though as you've already mentioned the angle you're gonna have the scene in hill valley you won't see all of the back.

[dmightyone]

sweet progress, the delorean looks rad! keep it coming!

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

OK so here's an update with Hill Valley, i've added some trees to the video wall building, some zerbra crossing posts (I think that's what they are) Added a smaller Cafe 80's logo onto one of the building pillars and pavements with curbs too.

Also trying out the buildings with some deformers too, fairly pleased with the progress here :)

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DHillValley.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DCafe80sHillValley-1.jpg

[rocneasta]

building will look really cartoonish with this slight deformation. any chance for a end concept if you have one how you're models will be placed, something to look forward too and to guide you.

[DaddyDoom]

Yeah the deformer tool makes it grow :D

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Here's a really poor concept of what I'm trying to go for

I can't draw so i've just used a delorean sketch and marty concept and slapped them together.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DCafe80sHillValleyFin.jpg

They'll be some more props added though like mail boxes, benches maybe, lampposts etc.

[rocneasta]

i'm sure about those added props, that attention to detail was illustrated on your pub. Just hoping the textures and render will compliment the modeling, at times they can really dim the geometry and elements.

Looking good m8, do you want us to get you Renderman :) so you get it to look genuine!

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

That's what I'm the most concerned about, modelling isn't always my biggest problem, but my lighting and texture work can let me down.

[hulahuga]

The angle looks great, gives the composition another dimension.

Let's hope the textures turn out as good as the modeling :)

[Raul]

very nice work!

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Thank you Raul i'm a big fan of your game art your a great modeller too and an excellent texturer.

Which leads me onto my very own texture tests.

I've finally after many many year of avoiding it, atually tried to texture properly with Cinema 4D Bodypaint, i've actually unwrapped the texture and UV mapped it, and create the texture map in photoshop.

It's nothing spectacular, but for me it's a big step in the right direction, so here I present my very first Bodypaint texture test with a US Mailbox for the Hill Valley scene :)

Here's the ref pic

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/USMailboxRefPic.jpg

And my screens......

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DUSMailboxComposite02.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DUSMailboxComposite03.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DUSMailboxComposite01.jpg

I dirtied it up a little as I didn't want it to be completely clean.

I know it's not completely accurate but it's only going to be small on the left hand side and not a close up so it serves it's purpose.

......back to Marty again.......his trainer's are proving a real challenge :(

[rocneasta]

you should think more highly of your skills there CG. The textures look excellent, few things to iron out but i wouldn't hold it against me if i was you :)

good stuff (this is one of many props yea?!)

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Yeah this along with some lampposts, rubbish bins etc, none of which are modelled yet though lol.

[hulahuga]

Looks pretty neat actually... Some deformations on the top would be good, but overall cool :)

[DaddyDoom]

you should totally add the manure truck on the scene :D You have time for it so why not?

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

That's part I matey :) They crash through the Town Hall in Part II.....because "everyone know's, hoverboards don't work on water"! "Unless you got power"

You have nearly the same chase around Hill Valley but on hoverboards instead of Marty on his skateboard and Biff with his car. In part II you get Marty on his Mattel hoverboard and Griff with his pitbull and his friends hooked on to the back :)

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Been checking out my blu ray Pixar Up this morning to try and match the style, apart from characters and vehicles the building looks nearly normal just a little chunkier and exaggerated slightly so I think i'm on the right track there.

OK so DeLorean update then...... tried allsorts of deformers last night and this morning and they just weren't giving me the effect I wanted, I tried combining taper, bend and sperical deformers....the lot...so.....in the end I simply pushed and pulled poly's into the directions and shapes I wanted.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DPixarStyleDeLoreanCo.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DPixarStyleDeLorea-2.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-Render04.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DPixarStyleDeLorea-3.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DPixarStyleDeLorea-4.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DPixarStyleDeLorea-1.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DPixarStyleDeLorea-8.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DPixarStyleDeLorea-7.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DPixarStyleDeLorea-6.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DPixarStyleDeLorea-5.jpg

The modelled of the doors & the tires are finished and I like to see them tapered in a little instead of straight on if gives it more style. I think i'm getting much much closer to the Pixar style with this DeLorean now....i'm certainly pleased with the progress. Textures for the Delorean will start soon(ish i'm not going to have much mud or scuff marks on the car though. From my DVD trilogy the bodywork is largely a brushed metal kinda of chrome carpaint. Still need to add a few monor details and Mr Fusion at the back along with the outatime license plate :dance:

[Tarik2d]

very cool, I like what you have done with the shape of the car, I can see I need to get a move on :P

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

You're doing really well with yours I thought actually :) You've got some really good clean modelling and some not so easy forms there :dance:

[Tarik2d]

Cheers :) youve got this fast modeling down have you. Im just playing around with some new ways I can texture my robot when I get round to it. Are you texturing your car in photoshop?

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Yeah it'll be a mix I think, alot of shaders, Cinema 4D base materials and then some textures composited in photoshop. Cinema 4D's shader tree is pretty advanced and works great for cartoon renders so hopefully it'll serve me well :)

[chunkymunky]

Oh yeah that DeLorean is much better! Maybe you should add a little bit of bend to the mailbox too.

[The Prime]

Hi Classic Gamer,

I'm not too sure about the taper, I know what you're going for, it's essentially "Cars" but that works because the cars have faces. My advice would be to make the wheels bigger, and maybe a taper in another direction to make the wheels fatter.

Essentially try and exaggerate the shape of the de lorean.

The car is a wicked model by the way, I just think that the deformation you've added looks wrong, but if you like it then I can dig that :) Keep up the stellar work

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Hmmm yeah looking at the front it does looks a little bit too low down and I'll tweak it some more when I get into texturing if it doesn't look right then i'll maybe re-think the shape completely.

This is the comparison from the way the vehicles look in Pixar's Up which is the mix i'm going for between Up & BTTF :)

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/PixarsUpCarComparison.jpg

[hulahuga]

Hi Classic Gamer,

I'm not too sure about the taper, I know what you're going for, it's essentially "Cars" but that works because the cars have faces. My advice would be to make the wheels bigger, and maybe a taper in another direction to make the wheels fatter.

Essentially try and exaggerate the shape of the de lorean.

The car is a wicked model by the way, I just think that the deformation you've added looks wrong, but if you like it then I can dig that :) Keep up the stellar work

I actually agree a bit here... Some of the deformations look cool but in Up the cars are still drivable....

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Yeah, actually I agree, i'll soften the tapering i've done and possibly make the tires a little thicker and bigger.

Here's an update with Marty McFly.....namely his jacket. Textures aren't final as the black on the jacket has no bump maps yet and looks a little too light, need to be a shade darker I think. I think the non-uniform elements on the collar and the sleeves work well too, it add's a little bit more than everything just looking almost too perfect and uniform. I'm also aware of the main red check texture bleeding through the jacket in places too, that will be fixed also.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/MartysJacket03.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/MartysJacket04.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/MartysJacket05.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/MartysJacket06.jpg

Anyone know of any good Cinema 4D or easily transferrable to C4D sneakers/trainers modelling? I'm finding the Nike NRG Power Laces Sneakers/Trainers harder than anything else at the moment. :wall:

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

OK here's Marty with some test colours and finnaly showing the trainers too. The trainers will NOT change i've had too much trouble getting them to this stage lol. But I do need to add a few more things like the Nike logo and the Nike tick etc.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DMarty02.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DMarty01.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DMarty03.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DMarty04.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DNikeTrainers03.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DNikeTrainers02.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DNikeTrainers01.jpg

[Dann-O]

I like the work so far it all looks good. But take a look at the eyes Pixar does not have lidless eyes on its characters that is well seen in Cloudy with a Chance of meatballs. A lot of work and it looks good the way it is but if you want to push it that much further then you can do that.

[rocneasta]

Damn he looks adorable :)

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

You know you're right I was thinking about added eye lid and eye brows for more expression, i'll start that in a bit.

I'm not trying to get big headed here but I actually think he looks like Mchael J Fox :) which is what i'm going for.........I think i've slightly suprised myself actually.

[DaddyDoom]

Awesome work on Michael bro!
I agree on removing the taper deformation from the DeLorean. It works super on the buildings though.
As for the texturing, all is looking sexy. Maybe some extra work on the jeans though...
Keep up matey!

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Yeah I need to see what I can do in bodypaint for the Jeans....to be honest all I really wanna add is the seam down the side and i'd be happy, because it's not working with flat/cubic/cylindrical mapping etc so gonna have to try and unwrap that.

[The Prime]

You could model the seam into the pants. By the looks of your low poly cage, you have an edge in the right place. It would be a simple task to add that.

Looking great by the way. Stop doing so much work, you're putting us all to shame ;)

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Mmmmmm yeah I could model the seam, but the texturing will still needs to be done to work, might aswell do both actually, it'll look better than way.

Having a break from it this afternoon.

[DaddyDoom]

Updates?

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

later today.....all being well.

[DaddyDoom]

Had a relapse :(?

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Nah had to go to the foot clinic this morning, then i'm back there again on Thursday, nothing too bad.

Back on topic, i've been looking into multipassing on Cinema 4D properly over the weekend and after playing I kinda understand it now, as long as I activate an object buffer in the multipass settings on the render settings aswell as an object buffer on the geometry I want to render, I can then get diffuse, specular, ambient occlusion, global illumination, reflection, refraction, etc and above all alpha's for my models which leads me to the reason i'm mentioning it.

By having everything multipassed I can have a number of scenes exactly the same, with the same camera settings, same lighting but most importantly I can have one file for the background....i.e Cafe 80's & Video Wall with pavement, roads etc. Another file with Marty and his hoverboard and another file for the DeLorean...why? Because as I discovered over the weekend when I placed everything modelled so far, my viewport nearly ground to a halt and rendering was nearly impossible.

By having this way, I can also add much more elements into the scene without worrying about how much geometry will be in the scene.

I'm working on some little elements right now and as mentioned earlier, hopefully an update of some sort will arrive :)

[chunkymunky]

We demand updates! A thread this cool needs update lmao :)

[DaddyDoom]

Great news CG!
Let's see what rabbit you pull out of that hat.
Keep up :D
DD

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

I'm still not sure about the curvature I changed/added to the DeLorean, I might return to the older version and see what it looks like normally as it is stylised enough without the curvature just having it squashed up etc.

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

OK so here we go with progression of Hill Valley, textures are not final, just messing around with different styles etc. I already know now that i've rendered it out I don't like the brickwork on the Cafe 80's, gonna use a nice toon red brick i've got in my 3DTotal Textures CD collection.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DHillValleyUpdate14th.jpg

Still a huge amount of things to add:

Roofing to the Cafe 80's, Lampposts, rubbish collectors or bins, poles, wires maybe some more vehicles parked and some small elements on the Cafe 80's i've missed.

I've used a Pixar BG and removed the house with balloons as a nice reflection BG for the windows, works to a treat to me, but will still play around with the size and direction etc.

More updates later....hopefully.

Kind Regards

CG.

[Edwiersma]

Good! I really like all those small details. Maybe the Pepsi Perfect logo's need to be a bit less bright or they need to illuminate a more of those dark spots they're in.

Maybe its an idea to let your Hover Conversions billboard glow a bit. Keep up the good work!

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

From my screenshots from my trilogy DVD boxset the Pepsi Perfect logo is lit up underneath video wall building. So it's meant to be dark under there.

I agree about the video wall hologram too :)

[chichiri]

Nice work, you're really managing to follow the pixar style.

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

OK well here's a small update on one prop that will feature in the final scene. Strictly speaking the Biffco wasn't established until later on when Old Biff stole the DeLorean, went back in time to 1955 with the Sports Almanac and gave it to his younger self, then Biff of course cheated and became the luckiest guy in the world....And creating an alternative 1985 etc.

BUT......

That's what artistic licence is for...plus I just liked having the Biffco logo featured in the scene so without further ado....

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DBiffcoBoxProp03.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DBiffcoBoxProp02.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DBiffcoBoxProp01.jpg

Might dirty it up some when I place it in the scene, but for now here's a clean box open, will make some closed boxes......any suggestions on what would be in the boxes left out in the street? Whatever I fill the box with will need to be low poly ish and i'll use a MoGraph cloner with rigid body dynamics to fill the box naturally and that bit easier too I might add :)

Kind Regards

CG.

[DaddyDoom]

Looking great aha :D

[Tarik2d]

This is coming together nicely good work mate

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Cheers guys, gonna rough up the boxes a little....not too much I don't want them too dirty, but I don't want them completely clean either.

I've had a thought at what to fill the open box with and it'll be a nice little suprise.

[gauravcg]

nicely done so far......true modeling artist.....best of luck!

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Well i've been thinking about making Griff or not for some time, and after a few failed attempts i'm happy enough to share a head with him. Not sure if I'll keep him yet but got the skull cap modelled on him and I like the expression and he's angry of course. I might have one hand holding his belly and another holding his head, just after being pushed and attempted to have been hit by Marty inside the Cafe 80's.

I definatly won't be modelling Griff's mate's but he might look cool in the background.....it all depends on whether I can model the rest of him ok, gosh organics are so hard :wall:

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DGriffTannenCompos-1.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DGriffTannenCompos-2.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DGriffTannenComposite.jpg

I know there's a huge amount of edge loops on the character but I couldn't figure out how to get the expression around the mouth any other way and then I started getting some triangles and had to keep cutting to try and get all quads etc so forgive me but i'm still learning :hurt:

For anyone wondering if I had any other idea's for this Mashup challenge I did at one point think of Pixar's Up Vs The Goonies....maybe I'll make it one day as a separate little project who knows :hmm:

Kind Regards

CG.

[hulahuga]

Looks good :).

You might want to turn to lean the mailbox in the opposite direction actually... To balance the house...


edit to your update: I don't really see why you would need so many edgeloops around the mouth... The expression is only reliant on the borders in this case... Erase some of the horizontal ones...

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Yeah I was thinking the same actually :) Cheers

[Tarik2d]

great, not sure about the pinch u have modeled in on the mouth but still its good :)

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Yeah i'm aware of the pinch, trying to sort it out, only noticed it after rendering

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

And finally for tonight at least here's my tests with Multipassing. Not looking too bad at all I think.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/MultipassTest.jpg

And everything put together gives me this....

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/FinalMultipassComposite.jpg

Ignore the boxes I think they look crap, will think of something better to fill than the Luxo Jnr Lamp :max:

CG.

[jac3d]

i see all process nice updates men good luck !!

[DaddyDoom]

Ahah great work man :D
Apart from that pinch, Griff is looking super. Your organics are improving day by day man!!!

[hulahuga]

Not to shabby render :). Shaders still needs some tweaks though..

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Yeah I know, any suggestions? I'm using C4D skin shader with a base colour, maybe some subtle bump mapping and skin freckles or something might help.

Worked on Griff's mouth some more, nearly ironed out all the pinches and gonna remove some of the edge loops around the lower lip area and should be much better, also tweak the eyebrows aswell :)

[DaddyDoom]

Dude, I have a C4D file with several skin shaders, emulating SSS, which work really well and render fast.
Pop up at MSN and I'll send it.

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Cooltools :)

[hulahuga]

Yeah I know, any suggestions? I'm using C4D skin shader with a base colour, maybe some subtle bump mapping and skin freckles or something might help.

Worked on Griff's mouth some more, nearly ironed out all the pinches and gonna remove some of the edge loops around the lower lip area and should be much better, also tweak the eyebrows aswell :)

Mostly I'd say the gloss and the specularity needs some tweaking... You have a lot of polished metal in the scene, but right now it looks a bit flat...

[chunkymunky]

Cool updates

[xxxcubanxxx]

lol, the lamps are a nice touch, cool updates.

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Cheers, off to Foot Clinic now so i'll be back with some updates later today. Bye for now.

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

lol just started rendering out Griff in the Hill Valley scene he to scale and looks tiny he's so far away, but I'm glad i've made him :)

[Turvs]

This looks amazing, really does feel like an actual pixar movie.

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Thank you very much.

Here's Griff, just some test materials etc.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DGriffComposite03.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DGriffComposite01.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DGriffComposite04.jpg

Really basic modelling as Griff will be so far away from the render camera :)



Kind Regards

CG.

[DaddyDoom]

The jacket material looks kinda weird... but it the distance it might go.

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

it does look better at the distance he's at. I'll update soon with the scene as it stands at the moment. I've got 3 mutilpass sets so far, a background layer, then the video wall, cafe 80's and then character's layer and props layer.

Not added Marty in yet.

[DaddyDoom]

Fancy!
How's that foot?

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Completely healed! Just got a problem with a toe that need to heal up but everything is looking good.

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

OK well i've been struggling with the alpha channel with Cinema 4D for a while, but after looking at some things on the web about alpha's within photoshop i've got it looking slightly better. There's still some area's that need tweaking particularly the mailbox as i've accidently added it to the wrong layer and it's got a little white outline, but nevermind here's progress so far.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DCafe80sInHillValleyC.jpg

As you can see Griff Tannen won't feature too largely in the final render he's just gonna be stood there holding his belly where Marty punched/kicked him and holding his head in anger where he fell on his friends inside the Cafe :) , the main focal point of this scene really is Marty.

Lots and lots more to add, roofing for the Cafe, cables, overhead wires, air con unit for the cafe (the space is ready for it on the upper left corner) I need to carry on with the DeLorean, i'm going to make a few more hovercar's one will be parked behind Marty on the opposite side of the Cafe 80's, another will be in mid flight somewhere. Gonna make a van/truck to have parked outside the video wall complex somewhere too. And...........oh so much more yet to do lol

Kind Regards

CG.

[chunkymunky]

Coming along nicely, don't like Griff's trousers too much though, but looking nice and colourful :)

[DaddyDoom]

Ahah you slick *******o :D
You used a pixar image for the reflection on the Cafe80's windows :D
Coming out great dude!

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Oh yeah, you didn't think i'd model all that background stuff aswell did you? Although I did think of making the clock tower which would actually be exactly what's reflected there but no chance at the moment.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DHillValleyWithDeLore.jpg

Just tweaked a little and added the DeLorean, quite happy with the carpaint there. Move the BG plate too far over and now there's a car reflected that looks too close so will have to put the BG plate back into the position it was before :)

Kind Regards

CG

[chunkymunky]

That DeLorean is looking sweet :)

[Turvs]

Looking great, just not sure about Griffs trousers. DeLorean looks great though.

[DaddyDoom]

You should make some volumes in the distance behind the buildings on the right, to emulate the skyscrapers skyline.

[chunkymunky]

Good idea, I agree about Griff's trousers, they should be jet black with some specular, maybe like some leather trousers or something similar, try that out CG.

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Thanks guys, I agree about Griff's trousers, they need less reflections etc. DD I agree I could have some nice shadows, but I also wanna try a tree shadow map there aswell :)

CG.

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

No updates for now i'm afraid......

Going for a day trip to Skeggy (Skegness) tommorow, some sea air, fish and chips and a 99 ice cream on the beach will do me the power of good I think, so i'll be back with something Wednesday sometime :)

CG.

[hulahuga]

Hunting Skags?? (Borderlands) :smug:

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

lol :)

[Turvs]

Lol Been years since i have been there. And years since i had a 99 ice cream :D. Good times.

[DaddyDoom]

Updates! We demand updates!

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

There coming! Not much but there will be a new render soon :)

[DaddyDoom]

You better!

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Not much of an update, hoppefully more to come later today.....

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DCafe80sInHillValleyU.jpg

Some points/problems I need to address: I'm not a fan of the colour for the air con, Marty's eye had a piece missing I think that's a mapping issue, I moved Griff closer because I felt he was getting lost further back, still need to find a happy medium of where i'm placing the Pixar BG for the cafe reflections, still some fine anti aliasing white spots particularly on the pavement nearest the camera even though i'm using a layer mask, and added the multi coloured baseball cap flying off Marty's head too.

So much more to do yet!

Kind Regards

CG.

[Tarik2d]

Coming together nicely, the reflection pass is working well :)

[hulahuga]

Make it look like the hoverboard hit those boxes even more, move it closer...

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Marty McFly 360 Test

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[Tarik2d]

haha very cool :) i like ithe is looking good :)

[chunkymunky]

Not a bad turntable there :) Looking forward to seeing what you create next :)

[DaddyDoom]

Aha really cool CG :D

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Sorry that update's have slowed down a little but not really had the chance to add much more yet.

Here's a new version, trying a different BG plate for the Cafe's reflections this one includes the Up house too :)

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DCafe80sInHillVall-1.jpg

Added a small roof section to the Cafe aswell as changing the colouring of the Air Con Unit...... Still way too much to sort out, change, tweak etc, but thought i'd show the latest status. I'm still using the old multipass photoshop file, that's why Marty's eye is still mapping wrong and the hoverboard is still in the wrong place as i've not re-rendered Marty out again just yet.

Should be able to get moving with some more on this now i've recovered fully from my nice day trip to Skegness, you can see some of the photo's of the day amongst my new photodump thread i've created today her (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?p=800219#post800219)e :)

Kind Regards

CG.

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

OK well i've been busy with this project again over the weeked. Tried to model Griff's hovercar, i'm not gonna go for accuracy as the car will be parked behind the DeLorean, i've started the car from scratch 6 times now, and here's where I am with it at the moment......also been struggling with the hover conversion section but i'll sort it even if it means having the make the smoothed geometry editable and go high res for it. There's some problems in the mesh but they'll be sorted once I switch the symmetry null on and smooth the bodywork, it's not looking to bad at the moment anyway. I've actually modelled much more of the car but haven't had chance to render out anything else than this yet.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DGriffsCar02.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DGriffsCar01.jpg

Also based off the same way I modelled Marty, i've made a laughing boy character who will be pointing at Marty falling over on the right hand side.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DLaughingBoy03.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DLaughingBoy02.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DLaughingBoy01.jpg

Worked a little bit more on the front items section too, I moved the hoverboard to nearer the biffco boxes, and added a couple of Pixar themed items in and at the side of the boxes too, and also gonna model the "Dust Buster" from the Blast From The Past shop :)

Kind Regards

CG.

[rocneasta]

i've been at the sea side for a week, nice progress CG - love the new character

one question - is the shadow of marty appearing on the road or not - without the shadow he seems kinda lost in perspective - i have trouble placing him. Perhaps with DOF it will change but a ground shadow could perhaps make a statement of his placement...

[rap]

wonderful entry u have here!!!

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

rocneasta - Yeah I know what you mean about Marty at his current position the shadow is off camera, so I think i'll move him over so that his shadow is on the road somewhere :)

rap - Thank you very much :)

[chunkymunky]

great expression on the boy character :)

[DaddyDoom]

Nice progress dude!
The render is looking great.

[chichiri]

Really awesome work so far, it's going to be a nice entry, I love the pixar's style of your characters.

[Tarik2d]

nice one mate, maybe if you rotate his hand a bit so his palm is facing down. It looks like he is making a gun with his fingers.

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

DD, chichiri thanks Tarik2D actually now you mention it yeah it does need a little tweaking thanks :)

....Oh and be sure to rate my thread won't you guys :) :evil:

[rocneasta]

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[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Ah bless lol there's plenty to come, As mentioned earlier that progress of the hovercar was very early i'm alot further than that now, in fact i've nearly finished Griff's Hovercar modelling wise, gotta work out how to do the paintjob though.

Just rendering some more passes as I type

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-2DJaws19TShirtLogo.jpg

Logo for laughing boy's t-shirt :dance:

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Spent half the afternoon modelling and the other half cleaning up the harddrive of old files and the like to try and speed up the system, it's been lagging something terrible lately and also had an out of memory error while trying to render out one the the multipasses but corrected it and got it rendered out eventually.

The rest of Griff's car was a breeze, I was in the modelling mood I think, I love those days when you're modelling goes well and you really enjoy what you're creating :) Still a few area's the clean up though.

The Hover Conversion Tech

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DGriffHovercarComp01.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DGriffHovercarComp04.jpg

Those grooves were used with boolean, but I wanted them to be inset properly so made the smoothed mesh editable and then joined the two together.

And Hill Valley Update

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DHillValleyUpdatedCom.jpg

Moved Marty to a different position whereby he actually has a shadow now, added a few nice Pixar objects and placed the laughing boy into the scene too.

The only things that are shouting out at me at the moment though are that either the laughing boy is too big or moving Marty over makes him look too small, either way I need to get the scale corrected.

Kind Regards

CG.

[DaddyDoom]

The laughing boy looks like he's on his toes. Was that on purpose? Also, the colors on him look a bit too strong, and the eye sight instead of centering on Marty, which is the center of the scene, ends up moving towards the kid.
Now that the whole scene is getting closer to finished, we can start to perceive the balance of it a little more. Therefore, in order to fill in the dark area on the right, where the pepsi logos are, I would suggest you to move the deLorean to the sidewalk where the laughing boy is. The deLorean is a very important object in the scene, and right now, with all the add-ons you've been putting on the scene, it's getting a bit lost where it is. You could even place the two right weels over the sidewalk, or something.
Just a suggestion though, since all the rest is looking sweet.
Keep up bro.

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Cheers DD, the Laughing boy is mean't to be on his tip toe's, I looked at some poses and the excitement suggested to me the boy would look like that.

I'll tone down the boy's clothing too, I still think the boy needs to be smaller and Marty needs to be bigger.

I've been toying with the idea of having a van or another vehicle in the scene near the videowall section, but not sure, i'll try putting the DeLorean on that side, but at the moment Griff's Hovercar is parked behind the DeLorean and is in fact in the same place at the film.

Still so much to do!

[Suirebit-3DT]

flip the image horizontally, it helps composition and you also can notice the issues :) (I think light angle doesn't help center eye on martin)

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Thanks i'll look into it.

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DHillValleyUpdate.jpg

A new update for Hill Valley here, it's getting there slowly :wall:

[rocneasta]

i'm liking the change in lighting the marty's shadow and relocating of the cars - only thing bothering me a bit is the dark color of the car behind marty - too dark perhaps?!

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Yeah I agree totally, the glass isn't reflecting properly and it does look a little too dark, I also want to change the tires direction on the DeLorean and the windscreen glass reflections there aswell. Marty's shadow works pretty well know I agree. I've also rebuilt the Cafe 80's slightly and added window blinds which aren't exactly showing up and also I can see the Cafe is floating slightly too.

And always still very much to do lol.

Kind Regards

CG.

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

A little off topic I know but i've had to share this with you all because i'm so excited about it, not only it's easy to use but what i've managed to create on my first ever try with this software is extremely pleasing.

Now Sculptris has been mentioned on this site several times, and i've looked into the software, it's video's and gallery images and that was that, I thought nothing more about it but I actually downloaded it today and it's free and such a small program too about 3.1MB, and i'm just completly blown away by it's clean and easy to use GUI, it's speed and it's functionality.

I dove straight into it, learn't the shortkeys and the toolset in less than 20 mins and got crackin'............well i've tried Z Brush before and liked it, but hated the GUI, I've tried Mudbox before and liked it too and liked the ease of use aswell.....BUT and here's the simple truth...........i've never been able to create anything resembling anything in these softwares, now whether it's because I have a huge lack of anatomical knowledge i'm not really sure......but here's the thing........ i've created a face in less than 30 mins on this today! 30 mins and it's not half bad either, sure it's not gonna win any prizes for accuracy or prettyness BUT i've managed to create a face and i've NEVER managed to do this inside Z Brush Or Mudbox ever! Why?............... I'm not sure, but I think it comes down to the ease of use for this program, I started off with a simple sphere, used the grab tool to get a basic shape for the head, then started using the clay, crease, grab, smooth and pinch tool and hey presto! i've got something that actually looks like what I wanted to create!

I'm literally blown away by this software, I cannot rate it anymore highly, i'm just amazed that a complete novice like me managed to create this in 30 mins, i'm definately going to be playing with this alot more. It got me thinking I could make hair in this program, I can distort clothing and add little details etc. Then once i've figured out how to make the normals i've got all that high res geometry detail on my normal res model :dance:

Anyway here's what i'm talking about

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/FirstEverTryWithSculptris.jpg

I've always wanted to try this kind of thing properly and now I think with this software I feel that little bit more confident, then maybe after a few months of this I could really make something impressive that i'd be happy with :)

Just wanted to share because it made me so happy and i'm so so impressed by it.

Anyway it's very early in the morning and I'd better get to bed now.

Kind Regards

CG.

[DaddyDoom]

Wow, nice first try CG!
Is there a Sculptris for Mac?
IMHO, the scene looks much more balanced now. Great work.

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Look at this!!! Only took me an hour to make! I've never sculpted an ear before but LOOK!!! I know it's rough but F'ing Hell i'm amazed how easy i'm picking this up!

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/CG-2ndHeadTestInSculptris.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/CG-2ndHeadTestInSculptris02.jpg

Although having alot of trouble making eyes so left them out, but the character kinda looks like he's squinting or something lol. :dance:

Tried to get a gangster thug look to him, with a bit of weight about him. I'm just so impressed with this, i'm usually the person going wow, ooohhhh and ahhhh at other people's sculpts lol.

Sorry will get back on topic very soon, but waiting for new multipass renders to complete :wave:

Kind Regards

CG.

[rofiqalfata]

Which one is Marty? That flying little guy? I think the shadow is wrong... Marty casts shadow in a wrong direction... that's what i see... :D

Clear sunny day won't cast shadow that soft. The sun casts hard shadow while the sky will cast soft shadow a bit....so clear sunny day will create combination of hard shadow and soft shadow...

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Yeah still needs alot of tweaking, the shadows are area shadows so they get softer the further away from the light/sunlight they are, but yeah i'll get it sorted. I'm away for most of the day today, i've got foot clinic and then all being well i'm off to see Shrek Forver After yay!

CG.

[pables]

Great work CG!.

I think the textures(specially talking about the buildings, could have more variation and some dirt, to avoid that plain look. I also think a little of motion blur on the skate and the cap would be interesting.

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Thanks matey, the textures aren't final for sure i've just been trying to get the scene in the right composition at the moment, this afternoon i'm gonna run through a few new lighting tests, particularly the lighting angle to see if any other angle suits the scene better, what i'll do is take the current sunlight and camera and place it into a new scene and do some tests, Marty needs to come out looking the best for this piece as he's the central character to the scene. I'll also look into some motion blur in post in photoshop, I don't want alot of blur but a touch might help that little bit.

Off topic - Foot clinic went well, my bad foot's (left) big toe nail was dangerously wobbley, was scared it was going to fall off, or worse I'd catch it and accidently rip it off.....turns out I had half of a new nail growing underneath lol so it's ok.

Didn't go to the Cinema, going to go this Saturday to see Shrek Forever After. But I have got Edge Of Darkness for watch on DVD and a crackin' load PC games 7 of them (one being a trilogy set) for £7 bargain!

They are quite old games, but i'm a retro gamer :)

They are:

The Club, The Incredibles, Rayman Raving Rabbids, Devastation, & The Broken Sword Trilogy, i'me well made up with them :)

Back with updates hopefully later today

CG.

[F4F|$ido]

@ClassicGamer-3DT Retro games rules :D

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Sorry for the lack of updates recently, but i've been struggling with getting renders out and multipasses, also been trying out new lighting aswell.

Just got back from the Cinema after watching Shrek Forever After.....not too bad either, better than Shrek the Third but not as good as Shrek or indeed Shrek 2, but there was plenty of laughs to be had.

Then on my way home with my sister i've just fell over, I lost my footing somewhere and feel down really hard, and crashed onto my right side lower rib cag, hurt like hell, and still hurts a little bit now but there's no brusing or anything, if the pain (which isn't too bad) hasn't gone by Wednesday or something i'll probably go to the Dr's just to make sure i've not cracked a rib or anything, but I felt so silly for falling over lol, I wen't down like a ton on bricks though lol. Hurts a little bit now but hopefully it'll be better in a day or two.

Kind Regards,

CG.

[Tarik2d]

lol, oh dear, hope ur ok. I'm planning on going to watch it in 3D at some point.

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Right then, just to update you all, i'm off to the Doctor's in a while this afternoon to see about my ribs on my right hand side, they are quite painful when breathing in sharply, laughing and coughing really hurts, walking up the stairs and getting into/out of bed kills so there's something hurting, strangely there's no bruising at all but there's certainly pain, so the Doctor might give me some painkillers....there's not alot more they can do I think when it concerns ribs.

Also regarding my scene I have been trying out new lighting etc but not had the chance to render everything out just yet.

Hopefully updates will follow soon.

CG.

[Tarik2d]

hope it goes well, you might just have brused them

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Ah well it does seem indeed that I have more than likely just bruised my ribs, i've been examined and given some Co-Codomol painkillers if it really hurts too much, so thank goodnees nothing is cracked or broken eh? :)

Just a waiting game now for my body to heal itself, trouble is I use my right side, arm, hand to draw, model etc lol........we'll see, if it get's too painful i'll take a painkiller and try to battle on......I tell you i'm a danger to myself.....who'd have thought a simple loss of footing and falling over could cause so much bother.....ah dear......onwards and upwards

CG.

[Tarik2d]

Thats good you havent broken anything.

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

OK so here's where the scene is right now, not really much of an update but this is a new test of a slightly different light setup. Multipasses are really really annoying me now, i've actually tried adding everything into one scene and it get's 15 seconds into the render and comes up with an out of memory error so I have to use multipasses to split the scene up. I'm not happy with the new lighting really it doesn't look as natural and even though Marty's shadow is correct it still dooesn't look right at all IMO.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DHillValleyAllTogethe.jpg


It's looking slightly blown out and the intensity of the light seems too much
I'm gonna go back through some more light setups and maybe try soft shadows aswell as area and maybe even raytraced who knows.

I'm gonna get a sphere and a ground plane and try out new lights again because I don't feel I can move forward until I get the lighting and indeed the shadows looking their best. :wall:

Still so much to do yet.

Kind Regards

CG.

[eicronie]

funny scene )
quick sketch over you picture may be give you art direction

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Thanks I can see where your going and what your trying to show, it's looking bad at the moment, i'll keep going, i've plenty of time left yet.

By the way just so you all know i'm not trying to win anything here.....i'm not sure if I can anyway being a mod, but I just liked the idea of this challenge so much I wanted to join in and I have been enjoying it.....which for me is what it's all about really :)

[chichiri]

Really nice work, keep it up.

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Sorry Sorry Sorry....still no updates, but boy am I in some pain! Really big OUCH! with nearly every move. I will try to crack on with this asap, but at the moment it's too painfull sorry.

[LemonW]

in my opinion, you could improve the texture and shading. let it be more neat.

[Tarik2d]

Alright mate, do you think youll get this finished in time? u feeling any better?

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

I'm not feeling good at all, ribs are causing quite alot of agony this week. I really hope I can finish up..........if not i'll be submitted the earlier post at #203 as that was the nearest to completion I'd got.......

I really really hope I feel better soon :(

CG.

[chichiri]

I hope you'll feel better soon, even if you don't the job you already achieved is cool.
Good luck.

[hulahuga]

+1

Too bad about the ribs though... Hopefully nothing is worse than it seems...

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

I could probably try to get something rendered out but for the time left would have to lost Griff's hovercar and/or possibly Griff too because I'll need to re-render out another 4 multipass renders and composite.......we'll see :(

CG

[LemonW]

i dont know how you used to set up a light system. in my opinion, use a sphere with i HDR Map to simulate a environment lighting is easier to put all the things together.

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

OK well i've managed to create this, and i'm calling this final, as i've not got the time or the ability to do anymore with this at the moment :wall:

There's a ton I wish I could have changed and added and fixed etc, but i've really really enjoyed creating this, and i'm glad I got to the end of it even if it wasn't how I wanted it to go.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-3DFinalHillValleyRende.jpg

The rest is on the final entries page.

Thanks for viewing and supporting me everyone :wave:

CG.

[Tarik2d]

well done for getting it this far, looks good :)

[hulahuga]

Haha great twist with the ball and the lamp there :smug:.

Why did the car get that anti-alaising failure though?? You coudl have have painted that over or re-rendered the section...

Came out great in the end, good to see you pulled this through :)! Great fun watching.

[IronPatriot]

It would definately suck... HEAR ME OUT:

There has YET, to be an AMERICAN-MADE 3d ('CGI' as some call it) - movie, where the characters actually look realistic. The Japanese dominated (for instance) with "Final Fantasy 12". Why cant WE make such an AWESOME-QUALITY 3D Movie???

- Hence the reason PIXAR (a kid's 3D movie company) definately should NOT be the company to attempt this feat.

Go with Industrial Light and Magic, or WETA. Those seem to be the only companies that could even come close.

[Neil_F01]

few thoughts.. a).. love it..
B).. cant wait to see the doc in pixar mode
C).. why cant you just turn this around.. and make the first 3dt movie.. (am sure everyone on here would chip in on that one)..

i mean there are enough guys on here who concept.. there are tone of wicked character guys.. plenty of scene builders..
you know what i mean.. i'm normally an idea's kind of guy..

[Neil_F01]

with any luck the other members will say.. oh yeah.. lets do that..

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

It's something to consider for the future certainly, thanks for the input.

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

he he..... what this scene could have looked like if I was a better modeller and texture artist :) (ignore the bump values, they should have been decreased for the closer render)

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/HillValleyWithGameModels.jpg

[The Prime]

That looks like a really poor game... oh wait.

[hulahuga]

Now that looks a ton better =)