Week #7 - Old Thai Monastery - Low Poly

[Tom-3DT]

Hi All,

Sorry it's been a while since we had one of these but the other day I remembered I photographed this very old Thai building where the monks used to live. This was before we did these comps so I didnt get a full a set as I would have liked but there is still plenty to go on.

Big Toe has suggested the (rather tough) limits for this week, they are 500 tris and 512 texture sheet, so its going to be a real challenge with such tight limits and such details to cover, he has also said he would like people to have a go at the surrounding area and objects as well as just the building if you can! (optional but good for points) - any textures are cool, normals, specs etc to make it look as near to the photo as possible! As this is how they will be judged

Here is the photo set (http://freetextures.3dtotal.com/index.php?iset=304&pp=)

Please post your wire, clay, texture sheets and final render in this thread, wip and on topic chat is also fine here too, these challenges are supposed to be fun and we are not too strict on the rules. The only prizes are a gold, silver and bronze awards handed out each week. http://forums.3dtotal.com/picture.php?albumid=1291&pictureid=10526http://forums.3dtotal.com/picture.php?albumid=1291&pictureid=10525http://forums.3dtotal.com/picture.php?albumid=1291&pictureid=10524

Deadlines as always Midday GMT 1 week away, so this will be Wednesday 27th October

Also please note that one of the reasons for these challenges is to help grow our free resource libraries, so the model donations at some point in the future when our system is ready would make us very happy and give a new dimension to the free image library we are building up every week.

[Tom-3DT]

Oh and I forgot to say, we will give out a 3DTotal t-shirt for 1st place too!

[VersionThirst]

Good to see the low poly photo modeling coming back. What's the deadline for this? Wednesday the 27th?

[jassi.maac]

500 tries for entire scene?

[Tom-3DT]

Good to see the low poly photo modeling coming back. What's the deadline for this? Wednesday the 27th?

Yes well spotted, that is correct and I have amended the brief.

[Tom-3DT]

500 tries for entire scene?

I would say go for the building, the steps, the yard and the simple statues...maybe the wall around the yard too?

Or you can just go for the building or anything inbetween, Big Toe seemed to think that 500 for just the building was a bit too generous!

[Ojah]

Awesome challenge! Will be hard to decide what details to skip on.

[BTK]

Hi ! Are you guys looking for a single shot (that way we can optimize the whole thing) or we must see the building in different angles ? Thanks !

[jakeydoo]

Heyyy, this should be a good one :D, If i get time, hope soo

[psykes]

512 seems abit tough, will be a challenge.
heres my wip so far
http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h374/psykes1/monas.jpg
go easy on me this is my first time in these comps :haha:

[Slayer89]

sweet, the challenges have returned. As soon as I get this report out of the way I'll take a crack at it.

[Slayer89]

512 seems abit tough, will be a challenge.
heres my wip so far
go easy on me this is my first time in these comps :haha:

Thats a nice start. I'm going to assume this is a shot of the backside, as the front of the building has 2 sets of stairs.

[VersionThirst]

This is going to be harder than I thought. I can only get the small statues (without the top part) trying to be super low poly to 73 tris a piece. I think there are 8 of these; 3 on the front, 3 on the back, and 1 on each side.

That would be 584 tris right there. I reeeeeeeeeally gotta cut down the detail. These might even need to be turned into a set of 2 planes with images for a total of 4 tris a piece.

[Tom-3DT]

Hi ! Are you guys looking for a single shot (that way we can optimize the whole thing) or we must see the building in different angles ? Thanks !

Yes its gotta work for multi angles and be a complete model please

This is going to be harder than I thought. I can only get the small statues (without the top part) trying to be super low poly to 73 tris a piece. I think there are 8 of these; 3 on the front, 3 on the back, and 1 on each side.

That would be 584 tris right there. I reeeeeeeeeally gotta cut down the detail. These might even need to be turned into a set of 2 planes with images for a total of 4 tris a piece.

These challenges are a bit of a learning game for us too, maybe this one is a but too tough, but I guess it's good to mix it up a bit, we could be over generous on some in the future too for more detailed results.

cheers everyone else for your interest too

Tom

[Tom-3DT]

512 seems abit tough, will be a challenge.
heres my wip so far
go easy on me this is my first time in these comps :haha:

That's a really great start!

[Ojah]

So i decided to just model everything quite low poly and see where it needed optimisation when i noticed i was already almost 300 tri's over budget... Lets see what i want to lose.
ps, see-through is put on some objects to show where i want to use alpha's

[Slayer89]

This is going to be harder than I thought. I can only get the small statues (without the top part) trying to be super low poly to 73 tris a piece. I think there are 8 of these; 3 on the front, 3 on the back, and 1 on each side.

If these statues are the ones on the wall pieces then I counted 10.
There are 4 on the side with one stairs and 6 on the side with 2 stairs. Basically each time the wall ends there is a statue on the wall.

[behemoth]

Here's my WIP entry. So I managed to complete the monastery and the outside wall area within the given limit which was difficult enough lol. The yard statues seem to be an impending problem with me and no matter what way I seem to model them, they push me far past the 500 tri limit.
Well this is why I wanted to initially do this challenge... because it really seemed like a CHALLENGE (caps was necassary :D). I wish everyone good luck with this one. Its good to see the challenges back :)

[Tom-3DT]

Great work everyone, so glad to see people taking this one on, it sure is a toughy!

[gauravcg]

hey guys....i am also trying this one.........tight limitations.....:P :hurt:
some really good entries here.......
here is my update on this..... :)

168801

hope you like it :)

[Auburn]

Here`s my work in prog....

[psykes]

Heres where im at now.
bout 20 tris over atm so trying to shave them off, gonna have to try optimise bit more.

http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h374/psykes1/monas2.jpg

[VersionThirst]

Finally made it under 500 tris. I think I got most of the important objects in.
Time to texture.

[juhis_r]

Hello, all!

My name is JP and I'm a long time visitor on 3DTotal but I haven't really posted much here. Anyway, I decided to take part on this one and try to create as much as possible by these 500 tris.

Well, if this one was a real game art ( etc. ) I would certainly do this other way. Of course, instead of using one diffuse map I would create one map for trees and plants, one for roofs, etc or something similar. And because of that I wanted to test what I could do by one 512 diffuse.

So here's what I got done this far. I also did a very quick painting by using 3DTotal textures. Hope you like it! :)

http://www.jprasanen.com/images/stills/3DTotal_Challenge_week7_polys_1.png

http://www.jprasanen.com/images/stills/3DTotal_Challenge_week7_polys_2.png

http://www.jprasanen.com/images/stills/3DTotal_Challenge_week7_preview_1.png

-JP
http://www.jprasanen.com

[VersionThirst]

juhis_r - Looks good. What does your texture sheet look like?

Here's my finished entry. At 496 tris; 512 textures.

[juhis_r]

Thank you, VersionThirst!

Your way of modeling and texturing seems very similar to my way. You scene looks good indeed!

What comes to my scene and texture map, I basically wanted to be as exact as possible when it comes to building itself. So that's how I have filled the space of a diffuse map and roof and walls fill the most of the space. I still do some tests with other maps and post the final set after that.

Here is the diffuse map.

http://www.jprasanen.com/images/stills/3DTotal_Challenge_week7_diffuse_1.png

-jp
http://www.jprasanen.com

[Auburn]

Here`s my entry, I`ve used maya and the vertex chameleon plugin.
I ended up designing the model for the angle seen in the photograph and made the mistake of deleting the back faces, but I guess I know better for next time.)

499 tri`s and one 512 tga texture.

Cheers.:dance:

[Warin-3DT]

Very happy to see this competition! This temple is the one in my village

Here is the Google map (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?ll=14.997914,102.210048&spn=0.003565,0.005681&t=h&z=18&lci=com.panoramio.all,com.youtube.all)

[VersionThirst]

Wow, that's awesome. Is this it here? If so, I was actually pretty close on the top view proportions. (They're usually harder to guess when it's all ground level shots)

[Tom-3DT]

Yes! It is it!! Well done!!

[zwicker122]

So here is the first go at low poly modeling comp. Playing around with a few ideas, still have a few more to work on and try out. I love that the limit is so low. makes a person evaluate what is important and isn't in the scene. I'm shooting for a full scene with tree's. Fingers crossed.

http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/3451/temple01.jpg

[juhis_r]

Does anybody know how long does it take to check posts here? I submitted my final entry yesterday but it hasn't appeared here yet. Thanks.

-jp

[Slayer89]

Does anybody know how long does it take to check posts here? I submitted my final entry yesterday but it hasn't appeared here yet. Thanks.

-jp

Your entry is on the 2nd page, atleast for me anyway

[VersionThirst]

Does anybody know how long does it take to check posts here? I submitted my final entry yesterday but it hasn't appeared here yet. Thanks.

-jp

It's post #24 right? What do you mean 'check posts'?

Comp is finished Wednesday and judging starts after that.

[Slayer89]

It's post #24 right? What do you mean 'check posts'?

Comp is finished Wednesday and judging starts after that.

Forums on some websites require a moderator to review the post before its actually placed in the forum to be seen by everyone. I'm guessing thats what he is referring to

[juhis_r]

Thanks for your help. I meant this:

"Forums on some websites require a moderator to review the post before its actually placed in the forum to be seen by everyone.".

Maybe there is some kind of limit for image links or something because I hadn't that problem before. Anyway, I have a bunch of new images to show but seems like they are somewhere in a global bitstream. :) I'll try to post them again.

-jp

[juhis_r]

So here is my final entry.

- 499 tris
- I focused on the building itself and used most of the texture space for it. I also wanted to create a scene with some surroundings but wanted to keep trees and other elements on lower priority.
- Tried to be as exact as possible what comes to stair count, roof plates, different windows and other things to keep the object as near original reference as possible
- Only one UV ( no separate UV for normals etc )

A very quick sketch / painting
http://www.jprasanen.com/images/stills/3DTotal_Challenge_week7_preview.png

In Modo
http://www.jprasanen.com/images/stills/3DTotal_Challenge_week7_polys.png

Maps
http://www.jprasanen.com/images/stills/3DTotal_Challenge_week7_maps.png

Thanks!

-JP
http://www.jprasanen.com

[Slayer89]

Here's my entry.
- 476 tri's total
- focused on the building rather then adding foilage.
- majority of statues in the scene

Wireframe
http://forums.3dtotal.com/picture.php?albumid=1540&pictureid=11598

Renders
http://forums.3dtotal.com/picture.php?albumid=1540&pictureid=11597
http://forums.3dtotal.com/picture.php?albumid=1540&pictureid=11596

Diffuse Texture Sheet
http://forums.3dtotal.com/picture.php?albumid=1540&pictureid=11599

[gauravcg]

Whoa....we've got some really cool entries...
So here comes mine......

168922
168923

168924

I seriously enjoyed this challenge.....:dance:

[zwicker122]

So here is the final go at it. The final count is 289 Faces and 457 Tris. used a texture and opacity map to get it this far. Stuck some praying monks in the building for kicks.



http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/3451/temple01.jpg
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/5138/temple06.jpg
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/3451/temple01.jpg
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/3421/temple03.jpg
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/2484/temple04.jpg
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/7985/temple02s.jpg
http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/630/temple05.jpg

[BTK]

Here is my final entry ! 496 Tris and a 512 texture sheet. This one wasnt easy but pretty cool to do ! Some nice entries up there ! Good Luck !

www.maximechasse.com


http://forums.3dtotal.com/picture.php?albumid=1687&pictureid=11608
http://forums.3dtotal.com/picture.php?albumid=1687&pictureid=11609
http://forums.3dtotal.com/picture.php?albumid=1687&pictureid=11610
http://forums.3dtotal.com/picture.php?albumid=1687&pictureid=11611
http://forums.3dtotal.com/picture.php?albumid=1687&pictureid=11612

www.maximechasse.com

[Tom-3DT]

Many thanks for your entries everyone! Some really great work, the time and effort you guys have put in is fantastic, I really hope you all enjoyed it.

I will ask BigToe to come in and be the judge for this one, hopefully we should have the top 3 posted here very soon! all 3 can claim your awards and #1 can email jo(a)3dtotal.com for the t-shirt, we need you full address and size please.

Tom

[VersionThirst]

I had a lot of fun with this one. The objects to be modeled were a little vague though. Wasn't sure what should/shouldn't be attempted; for this reason a lot of the entries differ greatly.

I prefer photo challenges where it's an object and the only thing needed to be modeled is the object and not the surrounding area; like the dumpster, bike, or tomb. This keeps most of the entries pretty consistent.

[Tom-3DT]

Thanks for the feedback, very good to know what people prefer for future challenges

[Tom-3DT]

BigToe has spoken!! Here is his verdict;

1st Place: VersionThirst
2nd Place: BTK
3rd Place: Slayer89

I will try to get another comp started very soon! Thanks again to all involved you did some really great work this time around.

Tom

[washka]

There were some really nice entries, congrats!

[drsmythe]

really cool monastary, not many people do thai culture :) nice to see.


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[squeak]

congrats to all three!
Lowpoly skills

[BTK]

Thanks squeak it was really fun to do ! Can't wait for the next one !!

By the way guys help me win my 3D competition ! Follow the link and vote for me !! Thanks !!!!!

http://www.centrenad.com/fr/nadtv/champion_nad/projection?view=9193

[squeak]

you got my vote =)
good luck!