Weapons Of Dominance

[BiG ToE-3DT]

Weapons Of Dominance

The idea here is to create an ultimate weapon, one so powerful it can’t help but win a war. One so great, the mere mention of it’s name causes the enemy to surrender. One so horrendous, the wielder has to crazy to even try to use it.

Limits / Restrictions:

I’m thinking we can go two ways with this one:

1. All out, no limits. Unlimited tris, unlimited textures, render however you want.

or

2. 4,000 tri limit, 1 (2048x2048) texture sheet (diffuse, spec, normal, blah, blah, blah) viewport renders a must(first person shooter point of view), render engines just for fun. Moving parts would be nice too.

DUE DATE: Feb 20th 11:59pm GMT

Final Entry Thread will be up the week before the deadline

Keep all work in progree in this thread

[rocneasta]

just a mere thought about these weapons send shivers down my spine

[Tom-3DT]

Is it going to be judged? We can throw t-shirt prizes into the mix :)

[BiG ToE-3DT]

ok.

[Arsenal]

I suggest doing poly and texture limit. Give artist some guideline to work with.

and also... A Feb 20th deadline might be too long for a weapon. Maybe half can be weapon half is armor. Just a thought.

[BiG ToE-3DT]

the good news is, you get to pick which way you want to go with this. The time line is set up so, if you want to enter both the game art and the concept art portions, you can.

Draw up something, then model it.

[Arsenal]

You can also just make this a Low Poly Game Art challenge and get one of those fancy joystick controller medals.

[BiG ToE-3DT]

Keep all work in progree in this thread

[Cordero]

gonna find time for this one!

ToE - will you join aswell?

[BiG ToE-3DT]

yes, yes I will.

[thefmilyofblood]

Cool, I might join if I have time.

[tsabszy]

seems like an awsome contest :)
i hope i can come up with some useful idea and join it..

[poopipe]

give us 6k ?

presumably any projectiles etc, would need to be included in the poly/texture limits

and..

i imagine you'd only need to include one of each unique projectile in that limit (ie. if you feature 10 identical (instanced) bullets in your beauty shots you'd only have count one in your poly/texture limit?

did that make sense?

[The Prime]

Weapons Of Dominance

The idea here is to create an ultimate weapon, one so powerful it can’t help but win a war. One so great, the mere mention of it’s name causes the enemy to surrender. One so horrendous, the wielder has to crazy to even try to use it...



http://www.inc.com/uploaded_files/image/ipad-unveiling-pop_2778.jpg

[Cordero]

The Prime: roflamo :D

poopipe: I think 6k is under the line of "no limit", which is the first option of the two. Let me know if I'm mistaken :D

:dance:

[poopipe]

The performance hit from a model comes from pixel shaders and texture usage - not polycount (within reason). modern GPUs are capable of pushing extremely large volumes of geometry around (tens or hundreds of millions of tris) very happily, the crunch comes when you start throwing high res normal/spec/etc maps and post effects into the mix (and that's largely unconnected to polycount)

I feel the polycounts in a lot of comps are set unrealistically low these days tbh. 10k on a character is hardly high end realtime specs (GOW had them at 20k plus and that happened years ago) and it seems to me we really ought to be pushing towards next generation specs (i'd guess we're looking at 50-100k on a major character)

The extra 2k will give space for curved surfaces and nice accessories like strap fixings, detailed ammo belts and so on.

[Cordero]

Okay, I think I'll shut up now :D

[tsabszy]

to say the truth i agree both of you.. but i still like the lower polycount coz that's more of a challange..
when you bake from a high poly model the lower the poly limit the more proffessional you must be abot low poly modeling and baking to create a nice silhoutte with a nice result :)
btw nowdays with consoles getting old and games on your phone the low poly modelling grows more important today..

[Cordero]

tsabszy: hehe, yeah there are tons of mobile games... thats good tho, coz I really like old fashioned lowpoly stuff :D

4k should be cool, I just need to figure something out... maybe an axe!

[tsabszy]

Cordero believe it or not the 3d profession today need to model cars consisting of less then 200 triangles :D i bet you whouldn't believe coz you were born into a "next-gen" world :D
you know i'm just joking :)

[terry1337]

i would say all out XD i lack lowpoly skillz XD

[Fredddy]

Mmmmm... I think 4000 tri's would be plenty to model my wife's lasagne.
Now that is a fearsome weapon.:haha:

[Tank[NL]]

oh man, i so wanna join.

question about the kind of weapon tho. does it have be portable or can we go apesh!t and make an spacestation?

[Meauxable]

the ultimate of ultimate weapons.
http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/reset_button2.JPG

[hulahuga]

You guys are not even close...
This is the real deal ;P

http://www.dataswamp.net/rasterburn/logo--windows-200x176.png
http://i36.tinypic.com/9ash2t.jpg
http://nomorenoodles.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/bluescreen1.jpg

And look even NiN admits this as "the great destroyer"
Lookie here (http://www.google.se/imgres?imgurl=http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3088/2783768632_beeb811d33.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.flickr.com/photos/ltrandazzo/2783768632/&usg=__D3JcwE6T8OoSowq2Vb9hvugiB5A=&h=375&w=500&sz=118&hl=sv&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=5D3TT3L9Ov9-cM:&tbnh=131&tbnw=174&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbluescreen%26um%3D1%26hl%3Dsv%26clien t%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3Dfl7%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:sv-SE:official%26biw%3D1680%26bih%3D915%26tbs%3Disch: 1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=523&ei=zgkuTYGpDoOVOtHA8bkJ&oei=zgkuTYGpDoOVOtHA8bkJ&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=40&ved=1t:429,r:12,s:0&tx=108&ty=72)

[BiG ToE-3DT]

;832089']oh man, i so wanna join.

question about the kind of weapon tho. does it have be portable or can we go apesh!t and make an spacestation?

it's your weapon, do with it what you will.

[Tank[NL]]

*insert evil grin*

can do, boss :D

[StefanC]

mmh model a weapon, I think this is something I can pull off :P

[Meauxable]

deathstar? no we need something bigger!

divide by zero

hey, wait a minute.. it has to be an fps????
both no limit and limited polys?

[xxxcubanxxx]

I'm in....thinking of doing something with dirty diapers as ammo :D

[Meauxable]

ok, started to do some sketches too early so show,
but to give you an idea, it's like a giant plastics extruder, only then with matter fusion.
or I can just say it's a uber cannon or something like that.
just really big, really really big.

[BiG ToE-3DT]

I want to shoot baseball bats. or sharks with bees in their mouths. Not sure yet.

[StefanC]

I hope I am not violating any rule with this lol.
When I typed "Ultimate Weapon" in google and went to images I got this as result:

http://thehostess.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/cleavage.jpg

well ... can't say it isn't true can we ;P :drool:

[poopipe]

http://media1.break.com/dnet/media/2008/11/28%20The%20Ultimate%20Weapon.jpg

[tsabszy]

StefanC FS :D sure those are the ultimate weapon :D
no question google is made by men since you can search for any word on google an some boobs will come up for sure :D
google is your friend :)

[Meauxable]

I hope I am not violating any rule with this lol.
When I typed "Ultimate Weapon" in google and went to images I got this as result:

http://thehostess.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/cleavage.jpg

well ... can't say it isn't true can we ;P :drool:

Give every soldier 2 of those weapons in their hands, and they'll too occupied to fight

[hulahuga]

DW Start Date Released!!!! (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?p=832475#post832475)

[xxxcubanxxx]

DW Start Date Released!!!! (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?p=832475#post832475)

Yep about four days ago...:D

[paulius-st]

well. some ideas for you all. the picture is not mine . its done by Matheu Beaulieu. but its cool.

[BiG ToE-3DT]

is that what was killing all those birds in the USA

[hulahuga]

Yep about four days ago...:D

hehe, but I hadn't seen it yet and I think that others missed it as well ;)

[Cordero]

hey!

So I had a free hour, and started on this! (actually I had free time before aswell, but I had no motivation :D)

Lil' description about the weapon:
It's clearly made for destruction! If you think, its unbalanced, or not effective because of the many things on it, then its definitely not the weapon made for you. This baby is for those, who sees art in destruction, beautiful symphonies in the sound of roaring screams, and hysterical cries...:evil:

I'll make this weapon funny, it is of course not a serious thing :) The main reason I made this so complicated is because this way it can blow, burn, shot, poison, cut the enemy. It also makes pizza, and talks to girlfriends who's man is working for DW to win another trophy for 3dtotal! :D

Anyway, hurry up guys, lets see some weapons here! (not that I didnt like the boobs :D)

[Cordero]

it also speaks Chinese..

[BiG ToE-3DT]

I plan on making something. Did some searching for ideas, will post all the concepts I came across later today. Maybe someone will see something they like and make it.

[Cordero]

BiG ToE-3DT: can't wait!


little progress. I wanna put more and more and more stuff on it :) I dont think I'll make normal map or any of that, probably stay with diffuse, max specular.

[BiG ToE-3DT]

ok, so I came across this guys website awhile ago, www.autodestruct.com he seems to be the concept artist for a little game called Dark Stalkers.

As long as you give the concept credit to where you got your idea, you should be ok.

[tsabszy]

Cordero looks cool mate :)
i think diffuse and color secular would be cool
looking forward for the updates :)

[Meauxable]

I plan on making something. Did some searching for ideas, will post all the concepts I came across later today. Maybe someone will see something they like and make it.

does it has to be a weapon you have to hold? so no orbital lazor or something??

[BiG ToE-3DT]

if you wanted to make, lets say a satellite that rains down a fiery hell from above, I would have to say, go for it.

[Meauxable]

alright then i shall continuo what i cam up with

[Warlock 279]

Cordero - So its a Flame-Throwing-Sniping-Mini-Gun-With-A-Sword-For-A-Bayonet? That certainly is pretty "ultimate." The bipod is bothering me as you have it now, maybe it could be a couple of axe blades or something?

[Cordero]

tsabszy: Thanks! :D

Warlock 279 Exactly man! Only little mistake there, that is not a flame thrower! Those are toxic containers which contains compressed gas (in form of liquid) and it sprays out as gas on the end of the two "things" :D
This way I can have green glow on the containers, which is a really awesome, and overused feature, and because of that I can't miss it on the ultimate gun :D

Yeah, bipoed was a place holder, so I wont forget to put it there :D blade idea is ace btw!

Probably gonna go steampunk on its ass :D

[tsabszy]

so that part is a fart gun then with gut gases :D you could name it BFG the big farting gun :D
anyway, can't wait for updates on your weapon :) at least someone is taking this thing seriously!! not just jokin around :P

[Meauxable]

tsabszy: Thanks! :D

Warlock 279 Exactly man! Only little mistake there, that is not a flame thrower! Those are toxic containers which contains compressed gas (in form of liquid) and it sprays out as gas on the end of the two "things" :D
This way I can have green glow on the containers, which is a really awesome, and overused feature, and because of that I can't miss it on the ultimate gun :D

Yeah, bipoed was a place holder, so I wont forget to put it there :D blade idea is ace btw!

Probably gonna go steampunk on its ass :D

WAIT!!!
I think i know where you're going...
So the ultimate would be an Bioacid pulse rocket gatlin launcher with a sniper scope. All Unreal weapons into 1
wait.... with redeemer warheads

[washka]

tsabszy: Come make the detailing of your own folding gun here. (we won't say that it's hight poly) Seriously! :)

Cordero: + lill' gas tank for the flame thrower part.
It speaks chinese, total ownage... But does it make coffee?

[Cordero]

tsabszy: BFG sounds kinda fun thats for sure :D

Meauxable: ain't no place for a redeemer rocket there :( lets see if can be squeezed in ... :D

2152 triangles.. I'll cut it down to 1k, add some style to it and then move on to the texturing! can't wait for that to happen :D

[BiG ToE-3DT]

I need to hurry and get started, you are having all the fun.

[Meauxable]

I need to hurry and get started, you are having all the fun.

*Dump other projects*
tomorrow I wil start

[terry1337]

moddeling a turret/sentry by concept idea by washka
http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?t=81122
any comments would be helpfull^^

[Cordero]

BiG ToE-3DT: hehe, defo :D

terry1337: looking good! legs seems maybe a liiittle bit weak for that heavy stuff, but it should be alright with proper cartoony textures!


991 triangles, probably final model..
used DOF on the first one
used the stuff I saw from Buzzy during the pre-dw challenge on the middle one. Too many flat places, it doesn't look that good with this model :(
used F4 for the last one.. :D

[hulahuga]

The first modelling I've done for ages (and ages since I wasn't very good at it... at all...) and as some of you may know I am generally more into sculpting, but I thought I'd give this a try :)

Newest wip, shader test and one older version of the wip...

[tsabszy]

tsabszy: Come make the detailing of your own folding gun here. (we won't say that it's hight poly) Seriously! :)

that gun is not an ultimate.. so i wont :D just a lame sniper rifle
seems like i'll skip this contest, don't have time for it.. pretty shame coz it sounds awsome!!

Cordero: nice to see you have oponents mate :D

[Cordero]

tsabszy: yeah I'm happy to have some competition myself :D

hulahuga: does this counts as a weapon? Isn't it like a vehicle? :D

started on texturing.. handle may be a bit too red/saturated at the moment, but I'll see how it works with the other stuff on the weapon. same goes for the blood, its very gray, but I don't know yet how red that should be :(

1k texture, unshaded diffuse.

[hulahuga]

Well tanks are weapons only movable by machine power... ;P

Nice start on your texturing, the blade looks wicked but very ungainly ;)

[Meauxable]

Damn you, he's having all the fun.
:P

[Cordero]

hulahuga: Thanks! I guess ur right, it is a weapon of dominance :D

Meauxable: did u mean me?:D If U did, then ur right :dance:


update time!
Grayed out stuff is... well not final :D some of the stuff which are visible aren't final too, like the magazines, and most of the things... but that's why its called wip, I guess..
Need to balance colors out at the end. on the previous update, I liked it, now it starts to look mixed, and ugly.

[terry1337]

i am still working on the unwrap :P because i neaded to do some school assignments in 3D :wall:

[Cordero]

excuses, excuses... :D

[washka]

Nice tex Cordero, keep it up.
Hula, seems you're his only opponent, fight man! Get this tank on fire!

[washka]

There is also terry1337, hope you guys get Cordero down, because the guy is already running to the frontline!!!
Hula: Focus!!!

[hulahuga]

Haha :D

Working right now actually :).
Adding in details as I go right now, last one was another ventilation shaft...
Thing is that I think about making this tank ginormous! But I'm not sure if I will ever bother doing that much detail XD

Either way the tracks look good as they are now but they are too flat so right now I want to pick one track and make all others instances of that object... Any advice on the matter? (I use maya)



edit: will go eat now but if anyone has any advice on the matter I would greatly appreciate it :)

[terry1337]

^^ working on the unwrap almost done then the fun part starts :P
looking good people

[hulahuga]

Tiny update...

(need to lower the size of those bolts...)

[terry1337]

i hate unwrapping so bad XD im almost 3/5 done XD and getting more pain in the ass every min XD i use 3Dsmax isnt there a better more easier way to do it XD

[hulahuga]

Roadkill? Headus UVLayout? UVMaster (or whatever it was)?

[hulahuga]

Thought I'd share a little size ref...


edit: oh I added his gun...

[terry1337]

where is his gun? :P

[tsabszy]

lmao :D:D

[hulahuga]

Oh forgot, updating now...

[terry1337]

im slowly making progress in unwrapping all those small pieces XD

[terry1337]

so i guess i ain't a challenge XD :P

[washka]

xD xD xD

That's a nice size ref!

I think that he got you there Cordero.
terry you could try to beat them!
Edit

[Cordero]

hulahuga: oooooh no u didn't! I should have added the redeemer :S

but anyway.. its ON!

[washka]

I think you forgot somebody guys :D

[Cordero]

washka: ITS A TRAP!:D

Well, I have seen many dangerous weapons, but sure this one is the winner!

edit: look how sad he is :$

lol? this is my 1000th post..........

[tsabszy]

i can see you're at war guys :D

[gnome]

Hi guys!
I think I might join in on the fun. I am supposed to be working on my master thesis, but I just have to squeeze in some time.

Going for a remote controlled mechanical tyrannosaurus. Not too original, I know, and I don't care. :D
Trying to get the basic shape right for starters.

[washka]

IT'S A TRAP!

Cordero's revenge xD (That was a nice move man! & Congrats for 1000th post)

tsabszy: War is something serious! :dance:

Nice concept start gnome!

[Cordero]

gnome: great to see someone join :D great start, interesting idea!

tsabszy: absolutely! no joking around.. :D

washka: Cordero's Revenge.. should make a movie out of it..:D

Here are some stuff. I'm not moving backwards, I'm just hiding stuff I'm not sure about, and make things visible which are close to final.

So what do you think?

[tsabszy]

oh well, i should have known.. you guys never joke, you're just mean all the time :D

[Martin_x]

Ok kids. Enough jokes. I'll take on anyone with my weapon of dominance.

[Cordero]

oookay, where the hell did THAT come from? Very good :D

I'll finish this weapon, and then make a pocket atomic bomb launcher, and ur all down for good!

[washka]

Going nicely Cordero, waiting full tex to give global appreciation/crits.
Martin_x, you're not fair... The guy just teletransportated on the battleground. (Nice hot stuff by the way)

[hulahuga]

Looks like a rolling chair in my eyes...

Don't get the functionality of some of the parts though ;P

[Cordero]

suppose every part has functionality of melting faces

[terry1337]

but if you make a nuke you will nuke yourself 2 smarty pants XD

[Cordero]

I would also make an atomic bomb proof armor for the holder of the weapon too... it was so obvious that I didn't mention it!:D

[BiG ToE-3DT]

I'll take two of those armors. Thanks.

[Martin_x]

Just to make it clear I'm this is not my entry for this challenge. Just to share since it kind of fits the theme. I made this one couple years ago. Hopefully see you guys on DWV.

[Cordero]

:dance:

close one :D

[newhere]

Originally Posted by BiG ToE-3DT View Post
Weapons Of Dominance

The idea here is to create an ultimate weapon, one so powerful it can’t help but win a war. One so great, the mere mention of it’s name causes the enemy to surrender. One so horrendous, the wielder has to crazy to even try to use it...


http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr209/RaineAstrea/CLgamer/500x_kinfinal.jpg
IT WATCHES YOU

[newhere]

if you wanted to make, lets say a satellite that rains down a fiery hell from above, I would have to say, go for it.


The weird thing is the GOV. actually has that.

[newhere]

I would love to join this but i am in the middle of moving and i dont have my computer setup yet......if any one wants they can this idea i have: a little mini pocket size black hole matter put in a little container to be put in your pants pocket. all you have to do now is get some suicidal homo who is will ing to risk his life on the battle field to win the war...any takers?............

OOps!! found one :)

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQo7Nmd4SCOQNb_L65Z4GtDCt2mhPPV5 eBobtd5E7w6RKz1N-gISw

[gnome]

Just to make it clear I'm this is not my entry for this challenge. Just to share since it kind of fits the theme. I made this one couple years ago. Hopefully see you guys on DWV.

Hehe, you had me worried for a minute there (actually, more like a day). Impressive detailing on the tank! *thumbs up* :D

[Cordero]

I was most confident with the results I was getting with this weapon (texture wise) until tsabszy pointed out some things which can be improved. Aaaand in order to bring better quality, I'm off to work a bit on my texturing skill :D

Well of course, the weapon will be finished. I finished every threedy challenge I started in the last year, so why would I miss the most important one of all: the warmup before dominance war! :D so don't start to celebrate yet folks, I'll be back! More powerful than EVAR :DD

last update for a while...

:dance:

[lampshadehead]

Hi!

Great job by everyone so far.

I Honestly forgot that this challenge was running, sorry! Today I whipped up this model with the idea that I might use it in a half-life 1 map. These swords and shields certainly were the ultimate weapon in their time.

It's less than 512 Tris, and the texture is a 1024x1024 diffuse (but I`ll probably end up taking it down to 512x512.)

The shield texture is mirrored left to right, and the back shares that same texture space.

BTW, this might be the first original low poly model that I`ve actually completed.

Thanks for looking, crits and comments welcomed.

[psykes]

this thing will destroy everything


http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h374/psykes1/weapom.jpg

[washka]

psykes, I'm definitely fan of the concept, I give you *** there.
Kawaii vicious.

F*cking KaMiKaZe!!! xD xD

[hulahuga]

Martin-x - You relieved me there man :smug:

Lampshadehead - Would be nice to see some wires so that we can judge the lowpoly and its edgeflow :). Try working with shadows and highlights on the shield a bit more!

Psykes - Haha, way cool! Like the airbubble, nice touch ;P

Newhere - :D

Cordero - Wicked, the flames should perhaps go the same way though to avoid it looking busy ;)

[Cordero]

psykes: hehe awesome :D

hulahuga: makes sense, thanks :D

lampshadehead +1 hulahuga reply: I wireframe could help us help you :D also u need shadows, and highlight as he said. Try painting/rendering AO map out.
Wear off the grip where the fingers/hand touches it.
Give a bit of blue tint to the blade, that should make it more like metal.
Not orders, just advices :D gl

[psykes]

maybe time to make a serious entry now lol


http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h374/psykes1/domwep.jpg

[BiG ToE-3DT]

Got a few things going on right now, but I'm going to try and bust this out.

Concept is by the auto destruct guy.

[terry1337]

omg i hate unwrapping so bad so many tiny bits and parts my unwrap is a mess and i aint finished.... any help:S
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4398702/turrethelpterrytanke.max

[Cordero]

fire up winamp, start some relaxing music, and get it done :)
Thats all I can help :(

[hulahuga]

Terry1337 - If you want you could always try making it shaderbased... just make some selection sets and go crazy :D

[terry1337]

is that ok for unwrapping or what do you people use?

[terry1337]

yeah i used 2 do that but i nead to learn proper unwrapping because i want to learn to paint good textures :P

[hulahuga]

No i mean that if you want you could always just take the high poly, dump texturing and make slap on some nice shaders...

But if you want to use textures then you should as I said before look into a third party unwrapping tool like Roadkill or Headus UVLayout... (both are free)

[Cordero]

I manually unwrap my models. It might take longer with an hour than an automatic program like Unwrella, but I like the process, I learn from each one.

Also, no matter what they say, hand unwrapped models are better!:D

[terry1337]

unwrapping programs are messed up even more i stick to manual its a pain in the ass now but the more i do it the easier it gets im now at 75% done hardest parts are done^^

[folktrollish]

Hi!

heres where i'm at now, I don't find it agrssive enough tho, still wip

great job everyone, love the kamikaze fish!

[Robbert543]

May not be very agressive, but it is very fantasy indeed!
I've never really liked the split-sword-thing, maybe you could connect the halves somehow?

I've always wanted to do that... xD

[washka]

Aggressive?

[terry1337]

omg your as awsome as always XD

[washka]

I couldn't resist. xD

[hulahuga]

A bit like soulcalibur then?

[BiG ToE-3DT]

that could work. On the cartoon Naruto, there is a sword called shark-fin, it has teeth too.

[tsabszy]

Also, no matter what they say, hand unwrapped models are better!:D

no question dude :D i personally love the unwrapping exept when making complex buildings..

[Cordero]

tsabszy: Takes ur mind off of things for sure!

Update on the wood part of the gun. I've been doing some texture drawing practice with the help of tsabszy, and I finally used it on the gun, trying to bring it to the next level.
So I hope u like it, and thanks again tsabszy for the help/advices!

[hulahuga]

Looks a lot better now! THough some of those scratches look like the go outwars almost ;P

[washka]

Nice tex Cordero, you're getting better!

[tsabszy]

looking cool Cordero :)
i'd like to see more :P btw i don't deserve thanks that much coz i just gave you some advices but the texture is better thanks to the work you put in it
keep it up! looking forward for the rest

[BiG ToE-3DT]

found time to get some pollies moving:
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g129/DJBiGToE/004-32.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g129/DJBiGToE/002-13.jpg

[tsabszy]

BiG ToE-3DT looks cool! for me the gun-stock looks too weak now, that big circle (where you put your hand into i bet) should be thicker and look a bit stronger.. coz the whole weapon looks massive and heavy and it's not balanced now
will you create high poly model for it? if this is the low poly i assume you are gonna use a negative cone for the barrel of the gun, which gives you the best result for a deep hole (like the barrel)
can't wait for the reasult!

[washka]

Nice start Big-Toe.

[gnome]

I'm still alive!

Currently at 3074 tris, minus the few I will be able to shave off once I remove the symmetry modifier. Still gotta build arms and some cables, hydraulic cylinders and stuff.
Edges are automatically smoothed depending on the angle right now, which is why it may look weird in some places.

As always, any comments are highly appreciated. :)

[BiG ToE-3DT]

ok, so instead of actually hold this gun, you place your hand/arm in the energy orb. The orb uses your life force to power the gun. The more you "use" this gun, the more life force it drains from your body. So in other words, I'm too lazy to fix anything that might not work if it was real.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g129/DJBiGToE/008-30.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g129/DJBiGToE/006-10.jpg

[LemonW]

this is my entry. the final model will be less than 1000tris. with 512X512 texture. i design this for a new charactor which is just started.

[Cordero]

hulahuga: Ur right, will be fixed as soon as I get to the metal parts.

washka: Thanks man!

tsabszy: I'm gonna keep thank anyway!:D Thats how I roll :D

BiG ToE-3DT: Looks cool indeed. BALLS!

LemonW: Looks like a guitar. With a tail. Really cool :D

[washka]

LemonW: It's a guitar? Nice concept, like it !!!
Big-Toe: Lazy guy spotted !!! :D :D :D
gnome: No lill arms? (You could make two BIG ones, it will contrast with the classical T-rex stereotype, or keep it like this) Start tex!

[LemonW]

Cordero, washka:it is not a a guitar, but also an instrument, i referenced to a mandolin

[washka]

So your weapon of choice is some kind of mandolin LemonW...
Could I accompany?

[needse]

here u go , dunno where its going though, might do it so the hand fits inside it maybe hmmm

[gnome]

Arms, hydraulics, rigging.
I'm at roughly 3800 tris, does anyone have suggestions where some more would be indicated? Otherwise I'm probably gonna build some cables on the legs. :)

[folktrollish]

i going somewhere else, not fixed yet, this is a berserker mask, gives the wielder a brute force but also drives it crazy and blind

[TheBat]

Weapons Of Dominance

The idea here is to create an ultimate weapon, one so powerful it can’t help but win a war. One so great, the mere mention of it’s name causes the enemy to surrender. One so horrendous, the wielder has to crazy to even try to use it.

Limits / Restrictions:

I’m thinking we can go two ways with this one:

1. All out, no limits. Unlimited tris, unlimited textures, render however you want.

or

2. 4,000 tri limit, 1 (2048x2048) texture sheet (diffuse, spec, normal, blah, blah, blah) viewport renders a must(first person shooter point of view), render engines just for fun. Moving parts would be nice too.

DUE DATE: Feb 20th 11:59pm GMT

Final Entry Thread will be up the week before the deadline

Keep all work in progree in this thread

So, anyone decided on the restrictrions yet? Seeing all kinds of different entries would suggest the "(first person shooter point of view)" doesn't really apply anymore?

I'm working on some model as well, will post screenies later this week!

Cheers, TheBat

[hulahuga]

No there are two different categories for entries so as to be able to judge properly...

ps: Will be working a bit more on my model tonight if I manage to get my school work in time...

[BiG ToE-3DT]

TheBat: the limit/restrictions in the breif, are the limit/restrictions. You get to pick the one you want. Cause I'm such a nice guy.


20 days left, for all you slow pokes out there.

[McKronic]

awesome entries so far, might jump in on this if I can get a concept together

[Cordero]

posted this for like a thousand times, but I swear this is the last review of the texture :D

tribal stuff is not on it, coz it was disturbing.. hiding stuff I'm not sure about, and matching them later on to the things I already like.

[washka]

Some fast weapon concept I wanted to share:

[needse]

would this pass as a Weapon Of Dominance if i whack a big gun on the top lol

also wip thread here http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?t=81666

[hulahuga]

Looks way cool to me! :) Really digging the detail with the springs for the legs there.

[Cordero]

hey needse! Cool start, but I think that the main body is a bit too box shaped, its not interesting enough compared to the tiny details. Maybe make it some kind of animal shaped, like a dog, or somethin'

So u details are cool overall shape is a bit simple right now.

[hulahuga]

+1

[Cordero]

still trying to make the textures better

[The Prime]

Cordero

You got the spare polys to give the blade more of a curve? More like a machette? The blade also needs a more stylized texture. It stands out a bit compared to the rest of the gun metal, which looks fantastic btw.

[The Prime]

I know I'm a little late to the party, but has anyone considered doing a defensive structure? Shields are considered weapons after all.

[washka]

+1 #157 Cordero.
Go make your shield The Prime, you're welcome onto the party!
<== just a supporter/cheerleader.

[The Prime]

why I oughtta!

Don't tempt me Frodo! It's possible, I will have a look at the deadline and see how I feel though I seem to remember this isn't actually a competition.

[washka]

My prreciouusss.

[gnome]

needse: that's an impressive amount of detail, and fast! Seems like a ton of work to texture, though.

Cordero: I have to agree with The Prime, if you have some spare faces, you should consider putting them on the blade.


I spent much of last night playing tetris.... err, I mean, laying out the UVs. See also here (http://img3.imagebanana.com/img/qvcxwm7z/wireafter.png).

[washka]

Nice score!

[BiG ToE-3DT]

I got my gun unwrapped. It's naked now.

[nooby]

great entries everyone !
this is what I'm about to kick off

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/79/gunbasemesh.jpg

[Cordero]

The Prime: Agreed, gonna change that. its 1001 triangles, so I have plenty of spare polygons to use.

washka !

gnomethanks, gonna do that.

BiG ToE-3DT: gj!:D

nooby looks promising so far!

[Cordero]

update!

[terry1337]

i dont really like the blue colour i liked the green colours better :P:evil:

[Cordero]

hehe, I'm not sure about the color yet, but I'm really unmotivated to finish this, coz it looks like a piece of.. so I'll get back to it a week before deadline, an maybe make it look less crappy somehow.

[BiG ToE-3DT]

try playing with some FX. I see you have yourself a flame thrower, so, throw some flames.

[washka]

Push it a bit more Cordero, we're not far from deadline, outline/detail what you wanna show, hide a bit what you don't wanna show. Big-Toe gived to you some nice idea. Sometimes inspiration comes again when your back onto the work.

On a work/project there is always a time when motivation drops, it looks like craps and you want to remake everything. It's a common attitude we all get soon or later, just because there is an evolution and changes that's on any work. One of the cause (despite tolerance reach) is simply your own critical attitude, hard to overcome, you can think about finality. Don't give up man!

[hulahuga]

As Cordero rolls on with his texturing I thought I should share a bit of a modelling update.

[astroAJ]

Thought I might join in :dance:
Started this 2 days ago, but other things have been slowing my progress.
also had issues with rendering, but I posted that on another part of the forum ;)
This will be a high poly project so i hope everything goes well. (I hope my GTX 460 can handle the poly count)
Its starting to look like a walking Roman shield, which was not planed for but hopefully it will be fixed when texturing :)

I will add a description in later.

<img>http://forums.3dtotal.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=174386&stc=1&d=1297320807</img>

<img>http://forums.3dtotal.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=174387&stc=1&d=1297320830</img>

[Cordero]

BiG ToE-3DT: cool idea, but I've never done effects before, so I don't even know how to start :D

washka: I'll finish thats for sure. I just need some time off from this wep. I need to make a character before DW, so I'm all prepared for the big event!

hulahuga: Looking good! Did u manually arrange the stuff around the wheels?

[hulahuga]

hulahuga: Looking good! Did u manually arrange the stuff around the wheels?

The actual tracks are made from a single track which I then used with a buggy ass script to space them out along a motion path I set up :)
Then I made sure to set the wheels so that they are positioned in the actual cavities of the track.



Not too sure right now of what I should actually add and continue with, any hints?

[BiG ToE-3DT]

[QUOTE=Cordero;838005]BiG ToE-3DT: cool idea, but I've never done effects before, so I don't even know how to start :D

start with any oppacity image plane. play with that, see what you can come up with.


Hop on one of this image search images, look for fire, or flames, then slap that sucker on the image plane. Copy the layer, use your levels to make it black and white. Good to go.

[washka]

Gettin' nice Hula, some more details, especially onto the tank's track and the tower/cannon part.
-A lill' double rocket launcher (flat enough) in top/front/border of each tracks would be a plus, on just one track it could be enough (will break symetry).
-A shovel, a tow cable bobine, a lill' ladder, those kind of lill' accesories to push out credibility.
You should start unwrap/texturing.

nooby, I'm waiting da textures!
astroAJ, nice concept so far.

Maybe I'll enter da challenge and make some looooww poly stuff with a quick tex on it (nothing excessive, just for da participation fun). Still undecided, I'll think about it.

[3rdTimesTheCharm1]

Hey everyone,

Im going to be entering the competition. I just want to make sure that this weapon can be anything we choose? From old time dominance to present to future?? This is my first time doing a 3D challenge and I want to make sure I follow the rules.

Thanks Greatly!!!

[astroAJ]

Update time :dance:

Just wanted to test the smoothing n stuff.
I'm only going to uv map the main armour parts or else its going 2 take 2 long.
Also the front plate is going to be a see through plastic, I think.

washka: glad u like it so far

[hulahuga]

Gettin' nice Hula, some more details, especially onto the tank's track and the tower/cannon part.
-A lill' double rocket launcher (flat enough) in top/front/border of each tracks would be a plus, on just one track it could be enough (will break symetry).
-A shovel, a tow cable bobine, a lill' ladder, those kind of lill' accesories to push out credibility.
You should start unwrap/texturing.

nooby, I'm waiting da textures!
astroAJ, nice concept so far.

Maybe I'll enter da challenge and make some looooww poly stuff with a quick tex on it (nothing excessive, just for da participation fun). Still undecided, I'll think about it.

Thanks man! Nice tips.


And do enter, never seen 3d from you that would be fun :)


Hey everyone,

Im going to be entering the competition. I just want to make sure that this weapon can be anything we choose? From old time dominance to present to future?? This is my first time doing a 3D challenge and I want to make sure I follow the rules.

Thanks Greatly!!!


Go ahead with whatever you want as long as it is a weapon of "dominance" :)

[3rdTimesTheCharm1]

After having no idea what kind of weapon to make, i FINALLY made up my mind...
this is the Death Dealer Satellite :) it needs lots of work, please critique :) thanks a bunch!

http://forums.3dtotal.com/album.php?albumid=1814&pictureid=12436

http://forums.3dtotal.com/album.php?albumid=1814&pictureid=12437

[3rdTimesTheCharm1]

not sure you guys can see the renders, so heres a link

http://img34.imageshack.us/i/wippd.jpg/

http://img838.imageshack.us/i/wip2vi.jpg/

again i'm a noob at this, so if this doesnt work, ill keep trying.

[astroAJ]

Nice start Charm. Try to block out as much of the object in low poly first, as this will make smoothing easier :)
which 3d app u using??

One other thing, u can upload ur images directly to the forum in the "attach files" option. That will make it easier for ppl 2 see ur work ;)

[washka]

astroAJ, is your weapon a shield? (Purpose?)

[astroAJ]

well um, washka I was never really intending the weapon to be a shield. The robots purpose was to enter enemy military bases and hack into their private military computer systems and steal data. The shield plate would help protect the robots inner organs as well as deflect enemy radar.

I guess the robot could be a bit more attack like but I'm not to sure. What do u guys think ;)

Oh and one other thing, I am aloud to use unlimited polygons?

[LemonW]

update

[washka]

So intrusive/pirate/scout infiltration robot astroAJ? How does it connect?
I would have worked a bit more the meaning of yours... would have been interesting.
If I can give you some advice: maybe you should start texturing.

[astroAJ]

Washka: It connects with the plug at the front of the shield (a cord comes out). I also really wanted to develop this guy but time was against me and I really wanted to get something up to show you guys. I've started UV mapping, but its as slow as anything because texturing isn't one of my strong spots.

LemonW: what do U have planed because its looking good so far :)

[3rdTimesTheCharm1]

Hey everyone,

Here's an update on the Death Ray Satellite, i believe the modeling is done (if there is critique or ideas on the rocket thruster, im all ears :) )

[astroAJ]

Ok I think I'm out of this competition, My brain has officially exploded and I'm now trying to mop it up :wall: My model has to many bits and pieces to unfold and I just don't have the motivation to continue :cry: so um unless anyone has any crazy ideas to speed up the process or if I'm aloud to submit a clay render or something like that, well then I'm officially out. I spent so much time trying to get this done before the deadline :ugh:
Sorry about the little rant.

Oh and one other thing how do people UV map really large mechanical models n stuff so patiently?

[hulahuga]

Well I was only planning on rolling shaders/clay for mine :)

[BiG ToE-3DT]

astroAJ: well for your model, you have a few things that are the same. So you only need to unwrap one. Like the legs for example. You have 6, but you only unwrap one. delete out the others. After the unwrap is done, collapse the stack, saving the unwrap to the mesh. Then copy that leg as many times as you need, they will all have the unwrap info saved. You can do this for all parts of the model that have more than one.

[astroAJ]

BiG ToE-3DT I have been doing as you say but there are just so many faces to select after I added the extra edge loops in, to allow the mesh to smooth nicely. That's what's really slowing my progress down.
Oh and in the image some objects have only been partially mapped becuase I gave up on them :( UV mapping has really sucked the creativity out of me and this project that I was super enthusiastic to do is now going at a snail pace. I'll try and give these UV's one last shot ;)

[3rdTimesTheCharm1]

astroAJ: one thing that may help (this works in 3ds max, not sure about maya) remove your edge loops for the UV mapping. Adding edge loops will not mess up the configuration of your UV map. In Max i usually:

UV the low poly
Then add loops after the UV process is complete, put a turbosmooth
Open the UV's and adjust the UV accordingly.

Again not sure if that will help in Maya, but thats usually how i can texture a Highpoly object. But also if its going to take too long to take edge loops out, then place them back in, not sure how to help you there :( Wish i knew more.

Here's a link that may help:

http://www.3dmd.net/MAYA_texturing_tutorials.htm

Hope it helps

[BiG ToE-3DT]

I just noticed that the due date is only 3 days away.

I better hurry up and texture my weapon.

[Cordero]

well now that you mention it...

better get back to my baby :D gonna try that effect thing I think. Just wont be seen on the final presentation, coz I have no texture space for an effect left.

[washka]

astroJ, you could also just make some fast 3D proxy render (with custom mat), and paint/tex over it, and when you post your final, you just explain that there is no UV/tex.
But I don't know if officials would agree with this lazy method...

3 days left, hmmm...

[nooby]

good job everyone ! sorry guys for no commenting your artworks, being so occupied for couple last weeks
this is what I have at the present moment so far

http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/6379/hpwip01.jpg

[astroAJ]

My final entry, I don't see any other thread to post this so I guess I will post it here. Will be busy for the next few days so good luck every one. Oh and I did manage to complete the UV mapping but ran out of time to texture ;)

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/050/b/5/infiltration_droid_by_shadowglass3d-d39vpff.jpg

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/042/7/a/robot_wip_by_shadowglass3d-d39c6ml.jpg

[Cordero]

nooby: looking good, dont forget to submit it as a final entry later on!

astroAJ: congrats on the finish, cool work!

[Neil_F01]

some real cool entries.. i liked the suicide goldfish.. that made me chuckle..

love to enter this one.. but reckon their aint the time to get something fully finished in time.. but who knows.. i might just have a few sleepless nights.. lol.

[washka]

My small contribution, main objective is being minimalist while preserving the style. So I'll try get lowest poly count possible, two maps, 512 or lower if I can. I'll use planes for the spikes, don't know yet for lace rope.

Concept: It's a gobelin improved mace with a toasted/electro-carbonized crow.

They used some kind of glu on a lightning exposed tree to trap da bird, sometimes a gob trap himself too...

[BiG ToE-3DT]

I didnt finish in time, but I did get this far:
high poly model
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g129/DJBiGToE/009-13.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g129/DJBiGToE/012-16.jpg