SMC #01 "All Packed & Ready" - Lunchboxes

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/ClassicGamer-2DSMC01BriefArtwork.jpg

The Challenge Rules

1). Each challenge we'll post a subject for you to model along with a time limit on how long you should spend on it. Spend no longer than the allocated time then post a render of your model. No cheating, we are relying on your honesty here and the idea of speed modeling is to simulate a "real world" environment. If you are working on a project and asked to show a concept model you'll need to be able to get somewhere near the target in the allocated time. Your submission should be a model created especially for this challenge and not one you have stored on your hard drive. How you interpret the brief is up to you as long as the final model conforms to what we have asked for. Any images of models that do not match the brief can be removed and the poster disqualified.

2). You may enter as many times as you like as long as each model is completely new and uses no components from other entries. Entries using models which are not original will be removed and the poster disqualified.

3). Your entry may contain as many views of your model as you like and must include a clear and easy to see wireframe of the mesh before any smoothing/subdivision has been applied. Wire renders/ Cell Shaded or Screengrab wireframes are acceptable. Any wireframes we cannot see correctly will be disqualified. The key is for us to be able to see the wireframes clearly to ascertain how you modelled the subject matter.

4). You MUST include the following details with each submission:

A). Software used
B). Time spent creating the model.

Any further information is voluntary but posts not containing the required information can be removed and the poster disqualified.

5). Post TWO images per entry which must be no larger than 1280x1024 pixels in either landscape or portrait format with a file size of no more than 195k.
1 image for your wireframes and 1 for your clay combined with a optional beauty render.
These images must be uploaded to our servers using the "browse" button on the forum reply page.
Do not link to external images files. Images larger than the maximum size or posts containing links to external images (other than for reference materials)
will be removed and the poster disqualified.

6). The creation of displacement maps, normal maps and any splines drawn out in an external program other than your modeling software are to be included in your modeling time.

7). Time spent on rendering or texturing or building a scene in which to display your model is not included in the allocated period to allow those with slower machines to participate on an even playing field. What we are looking for is the quality of the models you can produce "under pressure". If your model is not complete, you can still post it as long as it's recognizable.

8). Posting the same entry twice in a challenge is considered to be double posting and will result in a disqualification. When asked to fix a previous post due to DQ or any other reason, you must fix the first post, or delete it altogether and create a new one.

9). The Winner must email jo@3dtotal.com to claim their prize.

10). Only 1st place & 2nd place (i.e. the runner up) can claim a prize.

These rules apply to everybody taking part there will be NO exceptions!

Subject: Lunch Boxes
Deadline - 10:00PM GMT Friday 11th March 2011
Description: Lunchtime at schools was your time, unless you had school dinners you'd have to bring your own lunch, usually what your parents have made for you. Here's your chance to model any type of lunchboxes with thermos flasks and your favourite cartoon characters plastered all over the box. Modelling the lunch is optional.
Modelling Time: 60 Mins.

Prizes: 1st Place will get you £30 worth of downloadable products, 2nd Place will get you £10 worth of downloadable products.

Above All Else Have Fun & Good Luck!

My Starter
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/Classic-Gamer---3D-Lunchbox-Starter-Wireframes--Clays.jpg
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/Classic-Gamer---3D-Lunchbox-Starter-Renders.jpg

[Aramor]

Nice, I was wondering when there would be another SMC.

I think the hardest part about this one is deciding what to throw on the lunchbox ;)

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Yeah, I had the same predicament. They are deceptive though, they can have some tricky geometry to get right, my entry was quick. I nearly made some lunch to go with it, but struggled to model sandwhiches so just did the thermos flask & lunchbox :)

I'm looking forward to seeing what you create Aramor :)

Kind Regards,

CG.

[Rachel vd M]

And so it begin's again.

nice subject, simple at first but you can take it as complicated as you can imagine!

p.s.

is it tru that this challenge wont have Tshirts (for now atleast?)

[Neil_F01]

does it have to be a kiddies lunch box... i was thinking more about a coal mine workmans lunch box myself.. is this acceptable..

[hulahuga]

Hah, we don't have lunch boxes here in Sweden!

Would love to see some fun interpretations of this, let's see if we can't make a lunch box from space or something :D

[Neil_F01]

what the aliene monsters lunchbox... complete with heart, liver, brain and blood tanker..

[Rachel vd M]

a lunch box from space

The lunchbox of Commander Shepard mayb? :haha:

[Aramor]

Yeah, I had the same predicament. They are deceptive though, they can have some tricky geometry to get right

Meh, I love underestimating a challenge. It makes for quite a nice surprise ;)


I'm looking forward to seeing what you create Aramor :)

Thanks. I think I'm going for either Jurassic Park or Fallout. I think it'll be JP though, since that was the first thing that popped into my mind when I saw the word lunchbox.

[himadri_sm]

do we have to model just the lunch box or the eatables as well?

[Psycho Mantis]

yes yes yes!!!!!! i´m in. i´m in. Man i missed to say that. :D

[astroAJ]

yeah I'm in, this brings back fond memories of when I was just a noobling and I used to watch others do SMC and I was to afraid to post up my models because I thought they sucked... mind u the still do kinda suck :p :dance:

[hammering3D]

wuuuhooooo !

A tear drooped on my face :D ... can't wait to be back in SMC's

[hulahuga]

yeah I'm in, this brings back fond memories of when I was just a noobling and I used to watch others do SMC and I was to afraid to post up my models because I thought they sucked... mind u the still do kinda suck :p :dance:

I actually remember joining the super soldiers sculpt contest with my first mb sculpt ever.... ;P That was fun... :haha:

[DaddyDoom]

Damnit CG... that starter render looks amazing. I gotta get my hands on AR3 :(

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

OK in answer to your questions.

No T-Shirts for now at least.
It will be downloadable content only.......... however a new addition to the downloadable content is the texture CD's which were the original SMC prize.

You can model ANY kind of lunchbox, be it a children's, builder's, workman's, alien's whatever.....AND..... if you can model the contents of lunch in the hour aswell you can do that too.

A quick search on google will present you with many many different styles, some in rucksack form, others just simple tubs and containers....... as it says in the rules, how you interpret the subject is up to you.

Now go get modelling :)

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Damnit CG... that starter render looks amazing. I gotta get my hands on AR3 :(

Yeah a very simple render too, just 2 softboxes, 1 overhead softbox and a HDRI for reflections and the glorious AR3 GI.

I might make another entry................ and the best thing is guys & gals I can't win :dance:

[Aramor]

So, where do we post our entries?

[DaddyDoom]

You post them here, of course.

[TheBat]

Yippie! They're back! I'm in as well. Now just need to find one that suits my needs!

Woohoo!

[Aramor]

Oh, I thought we were supposed to make a separate topic for our Work In Progress's or something...

Well then, here's the models, after about 45 minutes. I think they're okay for now, so I'm going to go texture them and voila.

Edit: finished it.

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Not a bad starter there Aramor, but remember you need to have two separate composited images of 1280x1024, 1 for beauty shots/renders 1 for wireframes and any clay renders, please edit your post. Each composition of 1280x1024 will showacse your entry much better with bigger wireframes and beauty shots etc. Look at my starter for how it should be composited. :) If you make another post with the updated composites inside you need to edit the first post or delete the post entirely.

You'll need software used & time taken to model the scene included too please, otherwise you'll be disqualified.

As for you model you're on the right track, I think you could chamfer the handles a bit more and maybe knife cut some more points in to soften the corners of the handles. As you've mentioned you're 45 mins in so you've a good 15 mins left to add/modify your scene.

[hulahuga]

CG - Didn't he say he is going to texture them? That means it is not finished yet and that this probably won't be his final... ;)

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

CG - Didn't he say he is going to texture them? That means it is not finished yet and that this probably won't be his final... ;)

Yep, but we're not allowing double posts or more, otherwise there would be multiple versions of the same one entry. Only submit the entry when it's finished, the competition is not a work in progress thread.

HOWEVER

If you have modelled your scene and submitted it and a day or so later you decided to re-render & texture the scene then again, edit or delete the post and upload the new composition.

Either way, by all means multiple entries.... but not multiple renders/compositions of the same single entry ok...... Cool :)

[Aramor]

Ah sorry, I'll fix it when I have it finished then.

So, no more WIP threads as well or?

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Ah sorry, I'll fix it when I have it finished then.

So, no more WIP threads as well or?

There never was a WIP thread for the Speed Modelling Challenges, just your finished entries please matey :dance:

[rocneasta]

Hello SMC *bows gratefully* i did miss you in your absence and my life as a modeler deteriorated to the point of no recognition... Now that you're back, i know i won't be spending time in vain...

Let's get this show on the road lads and ladets

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOO

[hulahuga]

Oh, I always thought wips were alright, seems I was wrong. But are illustrated questions and such about the modeling allowed?

[rocneasta]

yes, and welcomed to solve :)

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Oh, I always thought wips were alright, seems I was wrong. But are illustrated questions and such about the modeling allowed?

Yes, encouraged actually..... when I first started out on these SMC's (before Modship) I was always helping members out and they were helping me out too, I still say I learnt a good 80% of modelling knowledge from participating in these challenges....... and everyone models in a different way so there's always new ways to achieve the same model(s) :)

[hulahuga]

Cool, thanks guys! :)

[rocneasta]

Cool, thanks guys! :)

so you were just testing the waters, i see no question :p

[Neil_F01]

ah the joys of rendering

[Aramor]

Finished it and edited my previous post with the WIPs in it.

[DaddyDoom]

Anyone for an Inception style lunchbox?

[rocneasta]

working on it DD - just took around 30 stills from blueray disk of Inception

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Aramor - Loving the render and looks so much better, much better handles too well done :)

[Neil_F01]

still rendering :(

[Neil_F01]

horray... finally finished// just waiting for my vid to compress and then i'll upload my entry..

[rocneasta]

the torment of production :)

[Neil_F01]

lol

[Aramor]

Aramor - Loving the render and looks so much better, much better handles too well done :)

Thanks. I'm not really pleased with the material for the plastic, but ah well.

Can't wait to see the rest of the entries :D

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Wow 2 pages on the first day, this is brilliant :)

[rocneasta]

more to come, i have at least 4 versions in mind :) working on 1 atm!

[Neil_F01]

right here is my entry.. i have uploaded the recording of my screen to show how long i worked for..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWO-vDTUgxc

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Neil_F01 - Really clever entry, thanks for recording the modelling but we rely on members honesty and recording the video isn't needed, but still nice to see how you worked on the scene.

CG.

[h2k1]

thanks CG and 3DTotal...this is pure awesomenesssss!!! :dance:

[Real 3D]

oh yeah, SMC's are all back again! :) This would be kickin', sure all you polygon-hungry modelers are waiting to get their hands dirty again n take on the challenge. huh....dont mind the words, i am just too excited.
@CG: Amazing Starter
@Neil: Killer Entry man!

have fun every one.

[Scrat_SG]

Had some time while resting and when I saw this I thought I'd enter as I had a pretty funny Idea for a lunch box. :)
Hope you guys like.

[silverflame]

It's good to be back :) missed these. Haven't modeled in ages so gotten a little slow, would have liked to get more detail in there

[pables]

Hey! Here is my entry, I found it on google, I think in India they call this type of lunchbox a Tiffin.

I would like to make another one, as I saw one that really interested me, but I think is way more complicated that this one, so I think I wouldn't be able to finish under 60 minutes. But anyway, I don't know if I even will be able to give it a try, I have lots of work this week. I'll try at least to keep an eye to see your great entrys!

Good luck to everyone and happy modelling!

[pables]

Cg-Nice entry man, your modelling is as good as always, but you seem to make even more realistic renders!

Neil- Nice entry as well! I think you have some unnecesary polygons(triangles) at the top though.

Scrat -Cool entry, I like a lot the twisted glass and the donut shaped case, nice detailing on the edges. As you have 30 minutes left, you could even model the donut!

Silverflame- A killer entry as I expected, I almost did that same model too. Because it has some interesting shapes to practice subd. Render looks ace as well, I like the chromatic aberration you put on it. Did you use xoliul's shader on the viewport? Look awesome.

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Cheers pables

Man those are some excellent entries Scrat_SG, Silverflame & pables

[Scrat_SG]

Thanks pables / ClassicGamer-3DT, glad you guys like.

Not going to do the donut, but might do another entry, just need to get another Idea or find a good looking lunch box to do.

[Scrat_SG]

silverflame / pables - those are some awesome looking models, great stuff.

[silverflame]

Silverflame- A killer entry as I expected, I almost did that same model too. Because it has some interesting shapes to practice subd. Render looks ace as well, I like the chromatic aberration you put on it. Did you use xoliul's shader on the viewport? Look awesome.

Thanks, yeh it has some interesting shapes. Nah i didnt use xoliuls shader, its just a simple grey mat with some spec.

Pables Nice tiffin, i'v actually got one bought it a few years ago when they were fashionable but never used it, but i digress, very clean modelling, love the details like the clips has a nice sense that its made from thin metal

[Psycho Mantis]

whooaaa silverflame that clay shader is so sweet. like it was made for presentation. totally dig the smooth gloss.

nice to see this thing is already on fire with so many entries. *thumbsup* to you all - you rock.

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Did another.
Just made it because I always liked joining it, I can't win, so however good it might seems or look it's not gonna be competition :)

[rocneasta]

just came back from a night out on the town - and i can tell you're been busy lads! nice work, looking forward to others

[pables]

Thanks mates for the comments.

Silverflame- It's very similar then, ideal to present models!

Agree with Psycho, thumbs up for member's response to the new smcs!

[Neil_F01]

thanks for the comment people...

-Classic gamer... yeah i know its not essential but i like recording what i do.. its nice to show my workings..

-silverflame - really cool entry.. love the detail in it.. (looking likea winner to me.)..

-pables - great entry.. makes me wanna do a second model..

Question can we have more than one entry.. or are we bound to only enter one?

[pables]

You can have as many entries as you want Neil, but it has to be totally new (you can't use parts of previous models).

CG- Thats a cool entry again, really like it, it would be ace if the grapes had some sub surface statering.

Bed time for me now haha.

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

You can have as many entries as you want Neil, but it has to be totally new (you can't use parts of previous models).

CG- Thats a cool entry again, really like it, it would be ace if the grapes had some sub surface statering.

Bed time for me now haha.

They did have SSS but something went wrong with the render and the SSS isn't coming out properly :(

[Neil_F01]

You can have as many entries as you want Neil, but it has to be totally new (you can't use parts of previous models).

CG- Thats a cool entry again, really like it, it would be ace if the grapes had some sub surface statering.

Bed time for me now haha.

cool.. well i might do another more classical type of lunchbox

[capitan_popo]

EY! i am glad to see the SMC are back in the forums!!:dance:

[XTCMatrix]

I think I will enter this one :), awesome entry's everyone!

[DaddyDoom]

Awesome entries peeps :D

[URs3D.net]

Will join in definately :)
Im so happy that these challenges are back!

Thanks again CG

[pables]

They did have SSS but something went wrong with the render and the SSS isn't coming out properly :(

Maybe there should be a backlight to raise the details of sss.

[Tom-3DT]

Wow this is really off to a flier! thanks again CG for organizing!

[Scrat_SG]

Here's my second entry. I just wish I had enough time to do everything I wanted to do.
Hope you guys like as I really enjoyed trying to complete this one.

[pables]

Hey Scrat- I like this new entry more than your previous one. Nice work with that costures, it's a nice detail!

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

It's an absolute pleasure, i'm so happy there's such an enthusiastic response, may it long continue :)

[Scrat_SG]

Thanks pables, really glad you like it.

[rocneasta]

:wall::wall::wall: i'm working on saturday... can't model:wall::wall::wall:

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Another entry, a "boxed" lunch of sorts, very difficult to get the nuggets and fries textured right, still need alot of work but they are shader based, not actual textures used other than the happy meal logo. Just felt like modelling something again :)

[Scrat_SG]

Hehe nice one CG, but now you made me hungry :)

[Real 3D]

@Pables - yeah its called a Tiffin in india, and the guys who deliver these are called Tiffin-wala's or Dibba'wala's :), i was also looking to model one of these.
Nice Clean modeling though.

@SilverFlame - Awesome modeling, great entry.

@CG- ur renders look totally cool man :)

[DeadlyFreeze]

Glad to see the challenges back, keep on em gamer.

Man Box!

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[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Beautiful clean mesh there DeadlyFreeze, superb entry :)

[Mr. Bluesummers-3DT]

+1: That's a fine mesh, DF. How do you keep those lines so clean? If I made that many cuts I'd just make an unmanageable mess. :)

[hulahuga]

DF - Nice one! Wonder why the bubbles appear to be on the outside of that bottle though?

[XTCMatrix]

Hey guys does this work as a legit entry? You can use one of the layers of the tiffin as a beverage container.

Oh Hi Mr. Blue! I hope you got your PC fixed :kiss:.

[Mr. Bluesummers-3DT]

I made one also. Kind of just made it up, though the tin shape came from some lunchboxes I found online. I'll probably post the scene and assets for download on my website in a little while. :)

http://www.mrbluesummers.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/lunchbox-speed-model-render.jpg

EDIT: Replaced with JPG version. The PNG version was a meg! x__x

[Mr. Bluesummers-3DT]

Thanks XTC- my PC's working, but I still lost all the resources from my videos. Guess I'll have to go back to writing boring, old articles again. ;)

[washka]

Nicez one DeadlyFreeze. Bubbles???
Classic-Gamer: Some more specular (fat) onto the fries (they're a bit plastic) could have been appreciable but nice speed!

[Neil_F01]

so i think its silver flame followed by deadly freeze at the moment... awesome entry dude..

[Antor]

Here is my entry.

[Neil_F01]

cool

[XTCMatrix]

Made another one :), it's addicting!

[Neil_F01]

cool.. love the fallout lunchbox.. i used to love using them on those green glowing zombies.. in fallout 3..

[DaddyDoom]

This challenge is taking on like herpes on a cheapstake ho.
Awesome entries everyone. Love the bottlecap mine lunch box.

[DarkBoost]

wondering if these would ever return...

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Superb entries by all, lovely stuff h2k1 but amend your post for proper 2 images like everyone else, no w.i.p entries sorry.

[h2k1]

no wip? ok...Ill delete that picture and post the final one tonight...tnx DD!!! and Neil_F01 haha those feral ghouls!!!! ;)

[Zlatovous]

Whee! New SMCs!

I have modeled old military lunchbox I have found in my new appartemnt. It's pretty hawt, so I made it. I got slow :-( Need to speed up

Btw: I used very basic shader instead of clay renders. I use it all the time, since it makes the details (and flaws) pop out more so I think it's better than pure clay renders. But it can be changed if it's not up the rules

[h2k1]

Zlatovous : nice entry and awesome material!!! mind sharing that setup?

[TheBat]

Wow, this many great quality entries already and another week to come! Will finish mine tomorrow and then post it.

Keep it up, awesome entries so far!

[XTCMatrix]

Oooooo nice model Zlat! Might have to make another one :).

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Alright then...... who's gonna model this one :haha:

[Psycho Mantis]

easy. but i give away 1 interwebz if someone hardmodels the details ^^

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Hmmmm yeah would be alot trickier adding in those details..... especially in an hour :)

[Neil_F01]

Alright then...... who's gonna model this one :haha:

i'm so hammered.. i actually looked at that and thought it was a model that you had done... i mean it looks like a photo realistic image.. :wall:

[Neil_F01]

is anyone on linked in at all.. feel free to add me if you like..
http://www.linkedin.com/profile/edit?trk=h-gnav-name-link-0

i know its off topic..

[Neil_F01]

no wip? ok...Ill delete that picture and post the final one tonight...tnx DD!!! and Neil_F01 haha those feral ghouls!!!! ;)

yeah good game fallout.. was gutted that at the end of it after i told the dumb bint to go in a sacrifice herself to get that reactor going.. i thought it would spit me back out on the map so i could finish of the last few sub objectives that were left..

but did love running around the wastland getting the drop on the enemy and ripping them with my rifle..

[h2k1]

my final entry...35 min modeling, texturing all day, a few hours here and there..
Rendered in Marmoset.
I used reactor to place the mines.

[h2k1]

yeah good game fallout.. was gutted that at the end of it after i told the dumb bint to go in a sacrifice herself to get that reactor going.. i thought it would spit me back out on the map so i could finish of the last few sub objectives that were left..

but did love running around the wastland getting the drop on the enemy and ripping them with my rifle..

Yes, everyone had the same problem, I had to go back to my last save and finish everything before the last quest. I loved that game, I made all the side quests and all, just awesome!

That linkedIn link didnt work...

[Real 3D]

@CG: I am working on that R2D2 :D

Edit: Cant start modeling till evening, Too much office work at hand.... :(
will start working in evening :)

Nice Entry's so far :wave:

[Neil_F01]

Yes, everyone had the same problem, I had to go back to my last save and finish everything before the last quest. I loved that game, I made all the side quests and all, just awesome!

That linkedIn link didnt work...

why does that surpise me that the link didnt work..
i'll see if i can get a link that works.. and repost it later... but cheers for looking..



@CG: I am working on that R2D2 :D
yeah i might have a stab at it tomorrow// still up and off my rocker right now.. its been a fun day..

[Neil_F01]

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dir/?first=neil&last=farmer&search=Go

that might work i'm the third one down -milton keynes, UK

[Neil_F01]

yeah i saw this and i starting think.. yep bout time i get that c3p0 costume.. lol:dance:

[Real 3D]

bdw guys how do i share this page on facebook so my friends and students can see n join this too..?? Cg - Help.

[Neil_F01]

ooo how i love the internet..

[Neil_F01]

bdw guys how do i share this page on facebook so my friends and students can see n join this too..?? Cg - Help.

hope that helps

[Real 3D]

Alright, so why dint i think of that? nyways Thanks Neil :)

[DeadlyFreeze]

ooo how i love the internet..

That's some lunch box, I'd stick my banana in it.:dance:

[paulius-st]

finaly this awsome contest is back :D . i'm in :) .
by the way, great boxes guys :)

[Nocturn8]

looks like everyone's on fire... great work everyone... DD how's it going... where's your entry? did i missed it? hoping i'm not too late

[Antor]

Here is my entry 2.

[Robbert543]

Here's my entry for this SMC.. a Styrofoam box :)

It's all the time I could spend on this, since I'm at work.

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

I'm so happy with the enthusiastic response to these challenges, it really is great to see. I'm looking forward to seeing more entries and especially those of you that tackle the R2D2 :)

Kind Regards,

CG.

[Edwiersma]

Oh man! Waited so long for these challenges. I'm in!

[Rachel vd M]

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Happy to be modelling SMC's again, they are so much fun :haha:

[Neil_F01]

i like the fact that you came up with your own idea of a lunchbox.. rather than sticking to something with reference material...

cool entry..

[havoc373]

looks good Rachel :)
now i'll have to redouble my efforts for my entry :P

[rocneasta]

i hate texturing and UVW'ing - spend 35 min on modeling, two days on getting the proper textures together, now piecing everything to work...

***** it

[Rachel vd M]

two days on getting the proper textures together


yeah and welcome to you to on the smc's.. ;)

Anyways, you know that textures arent part of the judging?
and you can do without (most my models are just procedural materials).

[rocneasta]

i'll do two models with textures, and the rest perhaps without - i did an overkill (10k textures from vectors :p) i'll resize but can't increase on RAM :( gonna hurry up, post and start working on other models

[hulahuga]

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Yay! The lunch box from space has arrived! :dance:

[TheBat]

Ok, so here is my first entry (Hopefully there will be more if time allows, or maybe there will be some beauty renders).

It seems so simple compared to a lot of the other entries, let's just call it a warmup :).

I'm really happy the SMC's are back, and there's high quality, amazing work already posted! Keep it up!

(Updated with the right images now?)

[pables]

Great entry Rachel, it kinda reminds me of a mix between eve from Wall-e and the sphere from Gantz. Haha, cool desing.

[Neil_F01]

just about to render out my second entry.. :dance:

[Neil_F01]

That's some lunch box, I'd stick my banana in it.:dance:

awesome lol

[Nocturn8]

Amazing Entries everyone and awesome as usual rachelle.
Neil amazing entry you have here. hope to see more from you.

here's my first entry. hope you guys like it, inspired my Ben10 (my son's crazy about this cartoon).

did'nt had the time to model some food stuff.

[Neil_F01]

Neil amazing entry you have here. hope to see more from you.


cheers dude.. awesome entry :dance:

[newhere]

Another entry, a "boxed" lunch of sorts, very difficult to get the nuggets and fries textured right, still need alot of work but they are shader based, not actual textures used other than the happy meal logo. Just felt like modelling something again :)

I love this just because the mc nuggets looks just as fake and stale looking/tasting just like the real ones at mc D's. Good work.

[newhere]

I might be disqualified but i just could not resist the idea that came to mind for this 3D challenge.

Software used - Lightwave 3D 9.2
Time spent creating the models, textures, scenes, etc. - 4 hours 30mins 11.3 secs

[Antor]

Here is my entry 3.

[rocneasta]

excellent work newhere - you have to stick to the time limit, but it made me laugh!!!

[Antor]

Here is my entry 4.

[Neil_F01]

cant believe no one commented about my r2 box...

[rocneasta]

i just didn't realise in your clay render what's clay what's model and what's texture, so i didn't want to act dumb and ask, still waiting to finish work, get my brain going think it over and post it

damn did i just ask it :(

[Neil_F01]

i just didn't realise in your clay render what's clay what's model and what's texture, so i didn't want to act dumb and ask, still waiting to finish work, get my brain going think it over and post it

damn did i just ask it :(

i didnt use a texture.. couldnt be arsed making one..

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

I might be disqualified but i just could not resist the idea that came to mind for this 3D challenge.

Software used - Lightwave 3D 9.2
Time spent creating the models, textures, scenes, etc. - 4 hours 30mins 11.3 secs

Erm lol.............well........yeah...... disqualified for going WAY over the deadline, but also a little risque entry....... although it did make me chuckle.

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Antor - lovely render and modelling, I think the grapes and the bread look great from the top but the sides aren't great, I ran into the same problems myself when I tried bread. The apple slices need more smoothing or subdivision to make them look less blocky. But I really love the SSS/dispersed lunchbox material very nice indeed.

Neil_F01 - You managed it yay! Not a bad attempt at all, although there's some places I would have tried to keep an all quads layout..... but still kudos on getting in modelled in time :) But i'm afraid you need to sort your two composites out no larger than 1280x1024 please

[Neil_F01]

why doesnt this forum let me delete.. wtf... i have resized the image so it is smaller.. but the edit.. advance button does nothing so i cant edit and change the picture in the manage attachments.. nor can i delete anything.. its really beginning to p*ss me off..

does anyone else have the same problems..

[rocneasta]

everything works fine my end, perhaps you can't delete after posts have been made later than your post

[Neil_F01]

made images smaller - sorry for all the reposts..

and cheers classic...

i added the model if anyone wanted to have a look at it closer..

[Neil_F01]

[Neil_F01[/B] - You managed it yay! Not a bad attempt at all, although there's some places I would have tried to keep an all quads layout..... but still kudos on getting in modelled in time :) But i'm afraid you need to sort your two composites out no larger than 1280x1024 please

yeah cheers.. i have resized but cant delete the previous can you delete my older post again...

[astroAJ]

Neil I had a look at ur R2D2 box its good but I found some errors in the mesh, there only small (or I screwed up the import into Maya). Just thought I might point it out if u ever decide to UV map it it would be an absolute pain in the ass. :wall:

[Neil_F01]

thats an import thing.. i dont have glitches like that... the max file was too large.. for some reason..

my best guess is that on the import.. the internal verts on the shell modifier meshed up and made some funky doodie glitches..

and no i would never map this...

[astroAJ]

WTF Maya :( ok maya has failed me *punches it in face*
Glad it was Maya not ur mesh though and I seriously have no idea why the import failed???? :(

[rocneasta]

you should try FBX he's excellent with importing in Autodesk software...

[Neil_F01]

WTF Maya :( ok maya has failed me *punches it in face*
Glad it was Maya not ur mesh though and I seriously have no idea why the import failed???? :(

it could easily be my exporting.. i might have got a setting wrong somewhere.. who knows..

[astroAJ]

I think its ur file Neil, I tried the .obj in Maya 2011, Maya 2010, mudbox and zbrush and all seemed to return the same result. so u might want to try a different export method :)

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Sorted your duplicated posts out Neil_F01.

[newhere]

excellent work newhere - you have to stick to the time limit, but it made me laugh!!!

lol......i'm mean it was just a quick joke/idea. i don't think my concept would actually even count in anyway but hey, at least it made you laugh.

[newhere]

Erm lol.............well........yeah...... disqualified for going WAY over the deadline, but also a little risque entry....... although it did make me chuckle.

:)

[rocneasta]

well worth effort :) but 18+ or 21+ only :p

[newhere]

both :)

[rocneasta]

you should make a prototype of this, and market it to US... i know you would make some $$$ easy

[newhere]

Hehe.

[Neil_F01]

I think its ur file Neil, I tried the .obj in Maya 2011, Maya 2010, mudbox and zbrush and all seemed to return the same result. so u might want to try a different export method :)

yeah most likey..

to some extent it is just a shame i ran out of time.. i mean as classic said there is still some cleaning up to do with making quads and what not..

but you asked for a hard edged model.. and thats what i did for ya... i swear i must have took 45 mins at least just building the front pannel.. the rest of it is a complete slop together job.. i could have done with like 90 mins maybe to finish the project completely and clean up the mesh..

hopefully it should be good enough to win somehting.. fingers crossed huh..

[Antor]

Thanks ClassicGamer-3DT. Really glad you like the material. Is just mental ray "mia material" .

[rocneasta]

not much to talk about except the fact that it took me ages to get a hold of the vectors/high res photos that i then traced and redrawn to fit the theme of the box. Reference was a small photo from the net, not suitable to draw textures from it...

[paulius-st]

great entries from everyone :) .
so i had a little doodle today on my lunch break. nothing too dificoult - just a fun design i wanted to make :) .
i'll try to texture it later.

[rocneasta]

Without those tiny legs it would make a fabulous kid's lunch box.

[MStandar]

is it 60mins with modeling, texturing and rendering?

[rocneasta]

60 min for modeling - texturing and rendering isn't calculated in the time limit, and you can spend what ever amount of time you want on those two things - basically they are not mandatory - it's all about the speed modeling, getting the point across in as little time as possible

[Psycho Mantis]

peeps. read da rulz! 60 minutes is only modelling. you then have days to tecxture and render

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

They're not wrong :)

Been toying with the idea of modelling a cut down version of the Hogwarts Express as a lunchbox, alot of details can be instanced etc, not sure if i'll create it or not. But I have got an 80's themed entry rendering.......... :)

[MStandar]

oh sweeet, thats good, I started on an Alice in wonderland box yesterday, and only the modeling took around 55 mins, so i tought i had a bit low in time to make the texturs :D

[rocneasta]

i hope i'll have time to texture my other models that i have planned for this - but working 10 hours a day in the office without a chance to model - then driving to the restaurant twice a day to eat, results in little time to devote to texturing process

can't w8 to come back home

[Neil_F01]

nice entry rocneasta.. liked it..

but where is your clay render.. you only have beauty and wire.. i thought we had to have all three..

[rocneasta]

i did clay with wires showing - it's a multisub material with one as wire and other as clay - i think it shows better the wires (i did use it before and no one objected)

if there's a problem with it i can always change it - since clay is always used to show the way things were modeled i think additional wire on it gives more clarity

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Clay & beauty shots are optional, most do one or the other or both (I like to do both) but we have to have clear wireframes :) But you might aswell have clay renders as they showcase the model (detailing wise) much better than some beauty shots (sometimes)

[Antor]

Here is my entry 5.

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

That's a cool style, love it :) You're not gonna make this easy to judge are you lol

[Antor]

For clarity. All my entries, are made with the reference.

[silverflame]

Here's my second entry. Lunch box design is by Black and Blum and water bottle is by RKS! Both are being released to buy soon :)

[rocneasta]

loving the design !

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Just to let you know the next SMC will be a big one................... you'll need every second to model if you wanna get the details in :)

[rocneasta]

guess it will be a lot of investing into the different quicker ways of modeling - cutting corners and so forth :)

[URs3D.net]

Hello guys, some really good modeling stuff around. Makes really fun to watch again.

You were all spoiled Kids, with real lunch boxes..All I had was this paper box where my sandwich and apple where stashed. So nothing fancy, but reminds me of my lunch box time ;)
Best regards, and good luck to everyone!

[rocneasta]

an Apple a day keeps the doctor away :)

[dantrodgers]

Here is my entry 3.

Think this is my favouite, closely followed by the Portal one

[rocneasta]

posted 3 final composites - beauty, clay and wires straight from the viewport - i had Turbosmooth (off in viewport) so i didn't undergo the process of turning it on in the render on each and every object, instance or no. I'm sure there's a script, but i hope noone objects to this.

version 002 - hoping to make at least one more tonight

it's an old traditional chinese lunch box - only thing missing are the textures of chinese lettering, made it half way through (will apply it if time)

[pables]

Great entry Roc, I wanted to do that one myself, really nice one, but I am asphyxiated by work this week. Maybe I will be able to do something tomorrow, but not really sure about that.:hurt:

Great entries everyone! Keep modelling!

[rocneasta]

Thanks pables - i learnt alot from this entry - using swiftloop is quicker than edge - ring - connect & making a model which length i can adjust by symmetry modifier is a smart thing to do :)

[rocneasta]

another ancient Chinese lunch box - missing ornaments around the handle if you compare it to a reference. (too much work and it's more of a zbrush task than max (looking at time management ofc))

I aimed to achieve that ancient worn out look, cracks etc, but a refurbished wood feel - a mix of old and new. Ofc textures can always be redone to fit the more ancient look - these are just A&D slapped together in seconds

[pables]

Roc, I use max 2008 (and Modo), so, not sure if it has swiftloop:hurt:, but why is it faster?

I use shortcuts so I can do a ring-selection and connect in barely 2 seconds. I personally use alt-r +shift-c very handy.

About the symmetry modelling its really a smart thing to do, I always try to model only the necessary parts, can be 1/2, 1/4, 1/6 and so on, depending on the piece, and then apply axis or radial symmetry. I think that's the key to speed-model things.

Nice chinese lunchbox man, but I think the other one looks a bit better(at least the modelling)

[DaddyDoom]

Awesome all the way people.
I'll do my best to get in the next one.

[rocneasta]

Roc, I use max 2008 (and Modo), so, not sure if it has swiftloop:hurt:, but why is it faster?

I use shortcuts so I can do a ring-selection and connect in barely 2 seconds. I personally use alt-r +shift-c very handy.

About the symmetry modelling its really a smart thing to do, I always try to model only the necessary parts, can be 1/2, 1/4, 1/6 and so on, depending on the piece, and then apply axis or radial symmetry. I think that's the key to speed-model things.

Nice chinese lunchbox man, but I think the other one looks a bit better(at least the modelling)

yea the previous model is way better modeling wise, and alot more detailed than the later one - but it's the nature of the object it self :)

about swiftloop let me demonstrate :p

red thing marks the placement of mouse so he can determine where to add the loop... and you just click away (swiftloop is a part of graphite modeling arsenal of tools)

basic workflow is select an edge > ring > connect. select another edge > ring > connect. With swiftloop you just do the clicking and it does everything automatically...

[pables]

Thanks mate, seems like a nice tool, I think Modo 501 and Blender have that same tool.

Just ring - connect for me now:ugh:

[rocneasta]

not a problem, i just found my self going back and forth from standard modeling to using that one tool :) it's easier to just go around geometry and click to get your support edges

[dantrodgers]

Ive been promising myself id do a competition for ages. This is the first model i have properly textured and rendered.

[rocneasta]

not trying to be the forum nazi or anything but just as a helping hand for the future entries - you need to edit your original post and avoid double posting of the same entry.

cool illustration of kids; coca cola could use some better UVW's it's a bit stretched

[dantrodgers]

not trying to be the forum nazi or anything but just as a helping hand for the future entries - you need to edit your original post and avoid double posting of the same entry.

cool illustration of kids; coca cola could use some better UVW's it's a bit stretched

first post has been deleted.. try a hard refresh if its still showing up on your comp.

Cheers, the illustration is from ilanaexelby.blogspot.com/ (http://ilanaexelby.blogspot.com/), I know about the coke can, I intend on sorting that out at a later date. Got loads of uni work to do now, so just wanted to get the beauty shot up there

[rocneasta]

first post has been deleted.. try a hard refresh if its still showing up on your comp.

Cheers, the illustration is from ilanaexelby.blogspot.com/ (http://ilanaexelby.blogspot.com/), I know about the coke can, I intend on sorting that out at a later date. Got loads of uni work to do now, so just wanted to get the beauty shot up there

Ah i see it now, cool. The beauty shot is not mandatory anyway so it's usually left on how much time do you actually have to spend on making it.

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Just one day left for models guys 'n gals, we end tommorow night 10PM UK time :)

a biggie coming for SMC #02 :)

CG.

[Psycho Mantis]

yeah i´m already unwrapping... pff. that week passed fast. so amn yideas, so little time

[Neil_F01]

Just one day left for models guys 'n gals, we end tommorow night 10PM UK time :)

a biggie coming for SMC #02 :)

CG.

cool looking forward to the next one... are you gonna give us any clues?


also there have been some real impressive entires to this comp.. so thumbs up everyone..

[GaretJaxSozap]

Hey,
This is only my second post to this site, or any like it. I did this as part of a school class. Our assignment was this challenge. If possible, I would like some feedback on what I've done; but I know everyone is busy trying to finish. Thank you.

[Psycho Mantis]

how long are you into 3d? its not bad for that, but one can clearly see that you are using basic primitives. what school are you into, that they give 3dt smc´s for homework. this school rocks!

[Neil_F01]

well welcome to 3dt... its a cool site.. lots of people on here with knowledge and plenty of tutorials about to train you up to the level you need to be at..

as for this model.. its ok.. its shows obviously that your only beginning in the world of 3d
so i'll try and be gentle..

[Neil_F01]

how long are you into 3d? its not bad for that, but one can clearly see that you are using basic primitives. what school are you into, that they give 3dt smc´s for homework. this school rocks!

yeah wish my school had this stuff for homework. .that would have been awesome..

[Antor]

Chinese lunch box, good ideea. Here is my entry 6.

[rocneasta]

goooooo gooooo chopsticks !!!

This model took me by surprise, i expected an easy modeling task, and in a nutshell it is, but i experienced odd behaviour when connecting lines of topology, so i needed to collapse the stack more often than usual to get it to work... Ough well, used up all the time for this one, fairly simple and easy, but a lot of supporting edges for Turbosmooth to work with :)

[h2k1]

Antor : really like that last entry!

[Tom-3DT]

Wow 14 pages of responses to this challenge, it's really great to see.

[rocneasta]

Wow 14 pages of responses to this challenge, it's really great to see.

But wait there will be more!

[Vitrux]

Hey,
This is only my second post to this site, or any like it. I did this as part of a school class. Our assignment was this challenge. If possible, I would like some feedback on what I've done; but I know everyone is busy trying to finish. Thank you.

Hi!, yeah we can see you are learning about that magnificent word.. and that´s a good choice... Welcome aboard!
So, you can continue by chamfer all your edges for a better finish.:dance: Also you can make a plane and turn on the omni shadows to cast some shadows if you want.
PS: You should change the background color, full black is not very good.

[URs3D.net]

Here is my second entry. Thought that this box would be modelled as one as the firsts..but nope, so i did it :)

Hope all relevant info is on the picture. Keep it up, good luck every one

[rocneasta]

Any particular issues in the mesh that made you model it for 59 min, or you took your time with the model. The mesh is clean, don't get me wrong, but just wondering.

[URs3D.net]

believe me, i have my timer next to my pc. and when i was finished i luckily had 30 seconds left. think whatever you think, i have no need to lie for these challenges.

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Sometimes it's nice to get a simple shaped modelled right, in the past i've used the full time limit to model something fairly simplistic and just been pleased with having nailed the design easily and taken my time to create it :)

I'm working on the starter textures for tommorow night's SMC at the moment........ I hate texturing but it's something you gotta do to try and showcase your models nicely :(

[rocneasta]

I hate texturing but it's something you gotta do to try and showcase your models nicely :(

when compared to the time it takes to model something it's such a pain.

btw did anyone ever figure out how to texture (UVW) something with precision - let's say packaging etc. Or is it still just a matter or S.S.S. (scale, stretch and stitch)

[Psycho Mantis]

nope, and unwrapping sux.. i´m just starting to do it. except working with quadmodels, i dont see a way to get the job done nicely

[rocneasta]

but even with quads he gives you results that are to say the least funny, from 6 same quads he'll give you 4 the same and 2 enlarged etc :p I'm over the technical side of things up to a point ofc, but the way it's designed is silly - you work in units (whether you know them or you'll just pulling egdes to some coordinate value) and then he calculates those coords by giving you a rough sketch...

bah, gonna take a shower, shave, cut my hair - and go back to modeling... SMC'd 4 life!

[Psycho Mantis]

select the quads, and if possible, panar map them. and then just relx the sh!t out of them. or - load the texture in the editor, and drag the vertices to your needs.

[Antor]

Here is my entry 7. Texturing has been a nightmare, because i have not found chinese images. ...:wall:

[Psycho Mantis]

sorry it was a nightmare for you - its a pleasure to watch for me

[rocneasta]

had the same problem, but i found some vectors, traced few images and made it through somehow :)

[h2k1]

S.S.S. (scale, stretch and stitch)

never stretch, never...what I sometimes use is flatten map and stitch everything, relax at the end, keeping the same ratio for each island, or for more organic models, I use RoadKill

Once you know how to uv, it's just awesome trying to figure out how to pack everything, as a puzzle

[rocneasta]

never did relax on an inorganic model? does it work well?

[Psycho Mantis]

i´m now at maybe 10% unwrapping done... and i ahd to be in bed an hour ago.. daayyyuuummmm

[rocneasta]

my trouble is that i model mostly from bed :) the wonder and demise of doing it with a laptop...

[h2k1]

I relax everything at the end

[rocneasta]

perhaps you're a relaxed person :)

haha

just did 20 min kids lunch box - will render tomorrow and post :dance:

[h2k1]

last entry

42 min modelling
VRay render

[Vitrux]

Hello Guys! I was looking all your works and they are realy good..
I was inspired to do mine! so here is.. hope you like it:dance:

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[Vitrux]

Hello Again! I did another one, a little bit different!.. hope you like it :dance:

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[astroAJ]

Didn't have much time to do this becuase of a loads of uni work, but I knew that if I didn't enter I would regret it later X3

Vitrux: that Mario Lunch box is epic!!!!

[rocneasta]

Our children are our future, so here's their lunch box :)

too easy task modeling wise, but fun looks kiddish

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Wow this is gonna be so hard to judge!

From a purely modelling point of view, the mario lunchbox is technically the most impressive geometry i've seen this challenge. And the render is pretty sweet, it's not gonna be easy for me!

About texturing: I managed to do some packaging texture work quite well recently, I had some sachets & a box in which to contain them and as they were basic shapes, I made the UV's flat in bodypaint and then went to work in photoshop, I had a couple of lines and such that weren't matching up which I had to tweak a couple of times but it finally worked out ok. I think anything more complex or different shapes and i'd struggle though. It's a whole other beast UV mapping in which I really should learn..... but i'm happier to struggle with layered shaders and occasional basic textures for the time being lol. I think you really need to be interested in UV mapping and texturing that way and obviously if you can do it right it's very very rewarding as your models/scenes look incredible, but this & organic modelling are still foreign languages to me.

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

How would you guys think about a voting system for the challenges?

All you would need to do is reply with 1st & 2nd place winners..... for 1st place please award them with 2 points, 2nd place 1 point and we judge the challenge that way.

Think that would be fair?

The only other rules would be that only those that entered the challenge can vote and they can only cast their votes once.

[astroAJ]

There's so many entries, its going to take ages to sift through them all. 3D total should have a similar poll thing to that of cghub.com if any of u guys have seen it.

Its still a good idea though CG :)

[URs3D.net]

It would be great to get a new thread where all entries are in, just beneath each other. And only members who entered can give one vote for first and second place.
That would make sure for fast voting and accurate results.
Super mario will win.

[TheBat]

It would be great to get a new thread where all entries are in, just beneath each other.

Yes, a thumbnail kind of gallery (or some thread with just all entries) would be great as an overview!

I'm quite confident in the judges, so the public voting isn't a must if you ask me. If we go for public voting

How would you guys think about a voting system for the challenges?

All you would need to do is reply with 1st & 2nd place winners..... for 1st place please award them with 2 points, 2nd place 1 point and we judge the challenge that way.

Think that would be fair?

The only other rules would be that only those that entered the challenge can vote and they can only cast their votes once.

This sounds fair to me.

[rocneasta]

the judging was left to ClassicGamer and not up to votes, double posting would really complicate things if some competitors wouldn't manage time to post - i know ClassicGamer he's downloading the entries and making notes of the ones that stand out, so i would leave it to him.

that being said i fear that voting is on personal bonds and mesh topology quality would often be overlooked, beauty shots would affect the voting etc. Best leave it as attended in the start of SMC's

btw i doodled another entry :)

God i'm so glad SMC's are back:dance::dance::dance:

[Neil_F01]

yeah i'm up for a voting system.. i think a fair system of judging to be honnest..

i mean.. i could make a bagging model.. but if you didnt like me personnally regardless of how good my model i wouldnt win..

so i have always prefered the voting system.. granted this is gonna be a pig f*cker to judge.. so many cool entries..

and are we not voting for 1st 2nd and 3rd.. i know 3rd only wins a little badge thing.. but hell i want a badge.. lol

[Neil_F01]

and yeah i like the way some of the others do it... in that you have on thread for the comp while it running so people can post what they like..

i also think that you really should say that your only allowed one final entry...

i mean it used to run that way that you could make as many entries as you liked.. but at the end of the comp you had to choose which one of your entries was gonna be the final entry the one that gets judged..

[Neil_F01]

persoanly i dont believe the mario man took an hour... personally.. i mean have you ever tried to make a zip system like that.. it takes ages.. and i'm a pretty fast modeller..

[rocneasta]

i also think that you really should say that your only allowed one final entry...

i think this alone would kill the SMC's

it's about quick modeling and getting your skills up, more than a competition and deciding on which final model to choose to post...

Ofc i remember a time where two awards were awarded to one person, just because there were a lack of entries and SMC lasted a week as this one :)

[Neil_F01]

then instead of only 1 entry.. perhaps your only allowed 3...

it would still mean that someone good enough could win all three... but it would also give everyone else a fighting chance still.. lol..

[Neil_F01]

it's about quick modeling and getting your skills up, more than a competition and deciding on which final model to choose to post...


although i would say its been great having these back again.. am looking forward to the next one...

and yeah i know what you mean.. its all about the competition not the prizes..

[rocneasta]

I dunno fellas, i might strike you as a crazy person, but I can't describe how happy i am with these SMC's. Alone they are a huge motivation to me, and i've devoted every last second of my time to it. My laptop went to the restaurant lunch and dinner so i could render things and not be falling behind.

Happy Happy Happy - (still Batch rendering)

[URs3D.net]

rocneasta, yeah maybe you are right. The thing is just, that when CG is doing it alone, with this lot of entries it takes a while to vote. That was the problem of the last smc´s they where like 2 months behind or something.
I agree that when the "public" can vote, mostly beauty shots will be considered, and not the modeling time/modeling quality ratio..

It would be great if some could team up with CG and help voting.

[rocneasta]

rocneasta, yeah maybe you are right. The thing is just, that when CG is doing it alone, with this lot of entries it takes a while to vote. That was the problem of the last smc´s they where like 2 months behind or something.
I agree that when the "public" can vote, mostly beauty shots will be considered, and not the modeling time/modeling quality ratio..

It would be great if some could team up with CG and help voting.

Back then CG had bad teeth now it's all good :)

but yea him teaming up with another 3DT staff member would prove beneficial, If we disregard the fact that they can not see eye to eye on the winning ones :)

***** brainfart ****

@ ClassicGamer: If you think it would be of use to you or help in any way (and in no way affect your judging subjectively) i can devote a bit of my time to download all entries and place then in a pdf so you can view page by page all the entries (each page would consist of all the shots provided)

[Neil_F01]

i did offer at the beginning.. actually found it quite humerous, in that i emailed bigtoe on like a tuesday and then like on the friday it was announched that the SMC would return..

to me i dont care about the winning.. i just enjoy taking part... having my models slashed apart by others so that i can better my skills and make my day to day life of modelling easier in the long run..

but i did find it funny on one side of the fence you had that group moaning about getting the smcs back.. and the other side of the fence you had me saying i want them back i dont care if i cant enter them.. i'd happily run the damn thing..

but i think the voting system is the best way forward... and no i dont think the beauty shots are gonna be the winning one.. as this is a modelling comp..

(granted in this one,, most people have put together some real sex beatuy shots, along with some real tidy modelling..)..