View Full Version : Dominance War V - 3D - God of vengeance - redonix76
redonix76
17-03-2011, 05:40 PM
Kridan, God of vengeance has existed for thousands of years. The exiled brother to the God of War. Unlike the God of War, he is pure evil, full of hatred and malice against his own family and the other Gods. Looked down upon as a weakling by others, he remained hidden and silence while waiting for the right moment to take his revenge on ones who forsakened him
His power lies with each and every human beings in the entire world. the more hate and malice people have in their hearts, the more powerful he gets. He's been slowly accumulating power for a very long time and is finally ready to take his rightful place as the king of all Gods. Kridan has been unleashed!
redonix76
18-03-2011, 12:21 AM
Here is an update with a concept. Not sure between human body or Centaur. I know, it's not that creative but I'm just throwing stuff out there.
Warlock 279
18-03-2011, 01:29 AM
"Not very creative" can sometimes be redeemed by marvelous technical execution. Personally, I don't see an issue with a centaur design, there's gonna tones of bipeds, nothing wrong with a quadruped hybrid. I think it needs some polish yet, you've got some nice stuff going on with the armor design. The tails looking really out of place tho.
If you're still concerned about originality, knock out some other ideas, if nothing else really grabs you, come back to this and just make sure you really polish the design and model/textures. After all, unless you're going for a concept position, a really polished generic piece will better serve you than something that's completely original with a lot of rough edges.
redonix76
18-03-2011, 01:42 AM
Hey Warlock, thanks for the crit bro. Yeah I'm a 3D artist, not a concept artist...I can do a little concepts but nothing that great. I normally do better just messing around in Maya or Zbrush.
Now that I look at it more...the tail does look out of place I do want to make it like a Centuar but different from a regular horse for sure. I'll update it and see where it goes.
tsabszy
19-03-2011, 03:22 PM
keep us updated, good luck!
SnappedStrings
19-03-2011, 04:01 PM
Hey, redonix, looks like you're off to a great start. Solid story and base design. I agree with Warlock about the originality of it.
I had wanted to do a centaur design as well, but I didn't feel it fit with my character. I was thinking that a good exploration to do would be to find different animal bodies for him. Perhaps a horse body isn't the best way to go? Maybe you'll find that he works best with big elephant legs instead. Who knows, experiment!
I don't know how you are with modeling machine bits (I personally suck), but another interesting approach might be to incorporate machine parts into his design. I think this would really boost the originality, atleast.
Digging the proportions of the character, I'm a sucker for big hands/forearms.
Hope this helps, good luck!
redonix76
19-03-2011, 08:05 PM
tsabszy: I sure will!!
SnappedStrings: thanks fort he suggestions man, I'm definitely looking into design changes right now. I think when it comes down to it, I need to figure out what I can do in the amount of time that I have. A quadruped would be ideal but will add more time to model and texture overall. I may stick with a regular bipedal design but with a reverse knee...yeah not that original either!
I"ll post an update later today for sure.
Darchand
19-03-2011, 09:34 PM
Originality can be a tricky thing to tackle when so much has been done before. I am digging the centaur like concept and I kinda like the tail on it to. Add some armor to that tail and it might look even more awesome. There are also a lot of body types out there and if this is a vengeance god you might be able to incorporate a type of insect body such as scorpion or praying mantis.
redonix76
19-03-2011, 11:24 PM
Darchand - Thanks for the suggestions man...the scorpion thing...you may have something there!!
GregStrangis
20-03-2011, 01:40 AM
Good start here! I don't see the problem doing a centaur type character either, maybe try pushing the proportions of it real far to deviate it abit.A multi limbed demon would be wicked as well! Like the Zerg Queen from Starcraft
miclepickle
20-03-2011, 04:09 AM
very nice, normally when I see a centaur character they really do look uncreative but this guy looks super mean and awesome!
cant wait to see some 3d :D
miclepickle
20-03-2011, 04:10 AM
oh... looks like the proportions of the horse anatomy are off... looks like the body is a little long? or maybe too skinny?
redonix76
20-03-2011, 06:13 AM
oh... looks like the proportions of the horse anatomy are off... looks like the body is a little long? or maybe too skinny?
Hey man thanks, I totally agree, I'll fix his human body and make it shorter and more proportionate to the horse's body. Also I'm making him ever bigger and more menacing. I'll post it first thing tomorrow.
washka
20-03-2011, 09:38 AM
Interesting start work and attitude, centaur idea could be good. Keep it up!
Cordero
20-03-2011, 09:46 AM
hey! concept looks cool so far!
Centaur thing is cool, but u could check out how it looks it with a lowered back part, and more muscular front legs. Kinda mix up the traditional idea. (its a bit more unbalanced = not natural = demonic)
It looks cool right now, I'm just saying its worth a look, maybe it will work!
L3XICON
20-03-2011, 08:39 PM
good start, and stick with it man, nothing wrong with a design that might not be as 'original' as some. the brief here is not the whackyest design, but the one that gives the greatest feeling of epic godly power. think big, and immortal. concentrate on design elements that tell the story of the character, and how it personifies vengeance :)
Good luck!
redonix76
21-03-2011, 12:35 AM
Hey guys, here is my update. Thanks to all the crits and suggestions, I was able to makes great changes. Bigger, wider and more spiky stuff. I think overall he looks much more formidable.
I believe at this point, I have enough to start blocking out the shapes, but I think I will work more to his face though and make him look more beat like instead of human like?
washka
21-03-2011, 12:45 AM
Gettin' sweet! Maybe head a bit more goddy beast.
redonix76
21-03-2011, 01:01 AM
Washka - Mos definitely man! I got some ideas brewing for a better head as we speak! More scarier!
Darchand
21-03-2011, 01:22 AM
Can't wait to see the blocked out version of this guy. For some scary faces or interesting ones at least try this site. http://www.christopherburdett.com/makeupeffects/index.php?img=17
Warlock 279
21-03-2011, 01:24 AM
That's looking pretty rad, you've definitely got some nice stuff going now.
redonix76
21-03-2011, 01:25 AM
Can't wait to see the blocked out version of this guy. For some scary faces or interesting ones at least try this site. http://www.christopherburdett.com/makeupeffects/index.php?img=17
Dude, thanks for the link!!! Those are scary faces!! Definitely some nice features that I could use to construct my own scary face!!
Warlock 279 - Thanks bro!! Couldn't have made the changes without the help of you and other 3DT members!! I'm pretty excited myself about this character!
GregStrangis
21-03-2011, 02:41 AM
Much better now with his body!! Maybe you can add even more wieght to his lower half and make him angle down like Motaro for example http://www.destructoid.com/elephant//ul/31180-mortal-kombat-goro-vs-motaro.jpg Either way I can't wait to see this started in 3D =)
redonix76
21-03-2011, 03:47 AM
Much better now with his body!! Maybe you can add even more wieght to his lower half and make him angle down like Motaro for example http://www.destructoid.com/elephant//ul/31180-mortal-kombat-goro-vs-motaro.jpg Either way I can't wait to see this started in 3D =)
Thank man. Yeah my initial inspiration to the horse body and big tail was Motaro. ;P
FrZnChAoS
21-03-2011, 04:03 AM
Crazy amount of detail in the concept, the sculpts going to be insane.
miclepickle
21-03-2011, 04:09 AM
looking fantastic, but I am curious to see how the Silhouette works out with 12.5k tris...
mix_mash
21-03-2011, 04:17 AM
He needs to have his chin up and be aloof. Gods are often arrogant that way.
Paul
(mix_mash)
redonix76
21-03-2011, 04:56 AM
looking fantastic, but I am curious to see how the Silhouette works out with 12.5k tris...
:wall: me too!! Here is a second face that I'm looking into. My have a few more ideas for faces in a few hours.
mix_mash
21-03-2011, 07:04 AM
The more human face looks better than the second one, which can seem too beast-like.
Paul
(mix_mash)
redonix76
21-03-2011, 08:38 AM
The more human face looks better than the second one, which can seem too beast-like.
Paul
(mix_mash)
Actually I was thinking the same. A humanoid face gives him more intelligence. The other one makes him look kinda like a dumb brainless demon. Thanks for the crit man.
DaddyDoom
21-03-2011, 08:39 AM
Nice skits dude. Love the second face, it's pure RAAAAAAAAGE!
Keep up.
miclepickle
21-03-2011, 01:26 PM
Yeah I would go with more of a human face... the beastlike face doesnt really fit this character too well.
redonix76
21-03-2011, 05:24 PM
hhhmmm...I think it'll be easier for me to mess around in Zbrush to figure out the face better. Thanks guys!
Warlock 279
21-03-2011, 06:18 PM
Throwing in my voice for the first face as well, as you said the second make hims look far too brainless demon.
washka
21-03-2011, 06:19 PM
Muzzle?
redonix76
21-03-2011, 08:19 PM
Muzzle?
Muzzle??? Like over his mouth kinda like Hannibal Lecter?? Interesting...
washka
21-03-2011, 08:48 PM
http://www.miwim.fr/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/vache.jpg
Or lion/cat, or bear one ?
But the Lecter idea seems quite interesting too.
Agree with the brainless demon comment, in that case I prefer original one (subjective taste choice).
Puckducker
22-03-2011, 01:54 AM
He looks grumpy. I agree the human face gives him a bit more intelligence and lends itself better to the "god" idea.
Whole design looks cool though.
mix_mash
22-03-2011, 03:43 AM
Well, whatever route you choose to go with the design, as long as you surround him with lots of cute little kittens, I don't mind.
;P
Paul
(mix_mash)
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