Know Your Enemy

[BiG ToE-3DT]

If you come across an enemy you think we should keep an eye on. Post it here.

[paulius-st]

been browsing russians. those KGB forses are up to no good and are preparing powerfull weapons for world domination. and the worst part is that they have lots of awsome concepts and are ahead of us. we have to take mesures and prepare a pwerfull counter action. i suggest droping a "daddy doom" bomb loaded with "bieber bane" and wipe them all :D.
ok lets get serious. been looking in http://www.arttalk.ru/forum/viewforum.php?f=428
and found about 6-8 realy strong entries. they all have 5 stars on thread. seen their concepts - realy interesting ones.

[dhin]

Specifics Man, specifics! I can spend time sifting through the crap looking for the 5* threads! Oh wait... maybe that is what I should have sorted on ...

Though I think the House Rule should be to post the link to an Actual Thread.

[paulius-st]

dhin - your wish is my comand :D

this one has some good concepts
http://www.arttalk.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6022

this one - i think sathe has a rival in this world :)
http://www.arttalk.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5882

this one looks realy cool ans misterious
http://www.arttalk.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5912

this artist as i understand form what they are writting is a tough guy there
http://www.arttalk.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5948

this one has some interesting design
http://www.arttalk.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5854

[thefmilyofblood]

Hooo crap. These guys' stuff looks pretty good.

http://www.arttalk.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5882&sid=edc22dbeb4493d17310a18d9119f7aaa

http://www.arttalk.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5912

http://www.arttalk.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5948

http://www.arttalk.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5854

http://www.arttalk.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5856&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

*edit* Oh, you posted them already. I'm going to go away now...

[dhin]

meh. We have Sathe and Big DaddyDoom. They have the cyrillic alphabet. We win.

[paulius-st]

these guys are russians - russians are allways tough:hurt:
i realy like the one i typed a sathes rival and this misterious one. they have some mojo in them.
well we'll have to start building our ideas faster to not let the gain some advantage, cause they are using elegal tools to create - vodka and abscent - it boosts your creativity up to 1000% . i know this from my own experiance.

[thefmilyofblood]

meh. We have Sathe and Big DaddyDoom. They have the cyrillic alphabet. We win.

You do know Sathe isn't entering, right?

But hey, you have me... And that counts for something. (slightly)

[dhin]

Hey Congrats Blood on the 666 post. Savor this time with the number of the beast and let it fuel you hatred. Then harness it for the Uber Win.

[washka]

A spy is amongst you (http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showthread.php?p=272433#post272433)
:haha::haha::haha:
Sorry I couldn't stop myself.

Those russian are f*cking good opponents. Awesomes ones.

[paulius-st]

meh. We have Sathe and Big DaddyDoom. They have the cyrillic alphabet. We win.

lets hope we do :) . if i'm not mistaken sathe has turned yelow and ran away from this war for some wacom tablets:ugh: .
so threedee need a new hero.
here are first choises for the position.

[tsabszy]

few from leewiART that cought my eyes or were worth scrolling down

http://www.leewiart.com/forum/topic/1-45145

http://www.leewiart.com/forum/topic/1-45166

http://www.leewiart.com/forum/topic/1-45263

http://www.leewiart.com/forum/topic/1-45227

http://www.leewiart.com/forum/topic/1-45142

http://www.leewiart.com/forum/topic/1-45300

http://www.leewiart.com/forum/topic/1-45193

http://www.leewiart.com/forum/topic/1-45194

http://www.leewiart.com/forum/topic/1-45116

http://www.leewiart.com/forum/topic/1-45197

http://www.leewiart.com/forum/topic/1-45342

http://www.leewiart.com/forum/topic/1-45158

http://www.leewiart.com/forum/topic/1-45058

[paulius-st]

well thats good i can read chineas (but i dont understand a word :D). saw some interesting concepts amon these. but mostly are too weak to cause more serious resistance.

[thefmilyofblood]

Meh. A lot of them are pretty decent technically, but artistically not as much. People need to start thinking outside the box with their concepts. Seriously, there's a huge amount of "machine god" entries around.

Also, 666 posts. Sweet. Well, 667 now.

Aw. I didn't make it into Game Artisan's spy thread. That upsets me. It says ill on the quality of my art.

[washka]

here are first choises for the position.
I vote for the internet guy, I think he can beat them all.

there's a huge amount of "machine god" entries around.
Yeah, and imo human invented machines/technique even if there is some gods related to those, (although I'm a big fan of SF).

Thanks for input tsabszy!

[miclepickle]

anyone know if Slipgate Central has a thread somewhere?

[peppe3d]

really don't know mate.. but it seems not at the moment.. maybe he's too busy... or he's just prepearing some killer artwork to kick all of us out of the competition :p!

[tsabszy]

anyone know if Slipgate Central has a thread somewhere?

he"s participating in Brawl.. he's gonna kick some asses over there :)

http://www.polycount.com/forum/showthread.php?t=82126

(edit: wrong link was here before)

[Crispy4004]

Just browsed through a few of them and nothing really scares me yet. It's not because there isn't good concept work, just that the other 90% of this competition is execution.

There's little evidence yet as to who we really need to keep an eye on, at least with the 3D entries. All we know is who can draw pretty, which means very little, especially if the final drawings upstage the 3D. Happens way more often than it should.

[Sathe]

this one - i think sathe has a rival in this world :)
http://www.arttalk.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5882



How dare you, if any of you EVER catch me making an inverted sphere and "sticking" it to the mesh so it fakes detail murder me.

Threedy doesn't roll like that. This angers me almost to the point where I want to enter again.

[rocneasta]

Sathe is angry... RAWR!

[paulius-st]

how dare you, if any of you ever catch me making an inverted sphere and "sticking" it to the mesh so it fakes detail murder me.

Threedy doesn't roll like that. This angers me almost to the point where i want to enter again.
so what are you waiting for??

[dhin]

Leave Sathe alone, he needs time to boil. If you hit him to soon we'll lose him, we need to show the other crappy entries and say they compare to him first. He just has to think that is how we think he does things too, so he has to prove us wrong.

Don't you know anything about headology?

[washka]

traitor. you know what 3dt does to the spies? they sack them to death.

I was spying for threedy paulius... o_O

washka: Have you any proof you're not a traitor?
paulius: No... & You?
washka: Huuuuu, no...
paulius: That's what I thought!

[thefmilyofblood]

If any of you EVER catch me making an inverted sphere and "sticking" it to the mesh so it fakes detail murder me.

I'll keep that in mind.

[cod-x]

I would be so happy if 3DT would win this year.These russian guys are so boring.:)) Always coming with their talent and they win btw.:)

[Sathe]

Jeal...oouss..yy.. Can.. not . be contained. MUST . HOLD .ON ....LONggeRRRRRRRR ARRRRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[paulius-st]

Jeal...oouss..yy.. Can.. not . be contained. MUST . HOLD .ON ....LONggeRRRRRRRR ARRRRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

as Rockey said in his 6'th movie: "i got to let out the beast that is in side me". same goes for you.

[washka]

Balls Sathe, balls...

The foam is there guys, I predict he won't manage to restrain himself any longer.
He can't.


These russian guys are so boring.) Always coming with their talent and they win btw.
Da.

[Sathe]

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/4230/tumblrkvt87mm7hm1qzbm5x.png (http://img508.imageshack.us/i/tumblrkvt87mm7hm1qzbm5x.png/)

[dhin]

Wait, are you Frodo or Gandolf?

[NeoGeo]

Is it just me, or aren't we seeing any epic gods but just the same characters that would fit in any of the other DWars.

[Sathe]

Well due to the delays I assume 50% started early before the brief was released or 50% RQ. :dance:

[wil_himura]

There are cool designs over there, but as stated above, they could take part in past DWs.

Greeks and Romans had very clear God symbols such as clothing, topologies, weapons and much more complements. By taking a look at some clasical sculptures, you can quickly recognize which of them represent Gods over other historical or ficticial characters.

The same happened in Egypt.

We shall stand out of the past topics and give our entries the divinity they deserv. Taking a look at our forums I see great work btw, keep on with it!!

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DWV WIP entry (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?t=82877)

Blog (http://lapsusmental.wordpress.com)

[wil_himura]

There are some good designs over gameartisans aswell:

This one I'm concerned about... same God... omg:
http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showthread.php?t=19484&page=5

^^

[liquidbear]

There are some good designs over gameartisans aswell:

This one I'm concerned about... same God... omg:
http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showthread.php?t=19484&page=5

^^

this seems to be a very popular design and theme i have come across a few with that theme and i see a great comparison with this and some one else work on this site i mean with the whole body style shape and placements off the elements
http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?t=82783

[washka]

My preciousss!
http://lilysroom.l.i.pic.centerblog.net/3pvdlms1.jpg

[paulius-st]

just saw a link to this artist in GA spy thread. looks like japanese are bringing some heavy weapons.
http://www.leewiart.com/forum/topic/1-45381

[washka]

Wohoo, thanks Paulius, hot link, hot link!!!

But what is the precious's bearer doing?
Going against da big evil sauron? Nah!
http://www.actucine.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Frodo-reading-700x453.jpg

[thefmilyofblood]

just saw a link to this artist in GA spy thread. looks like japanese are bringing some heavy weapons.
http://www.leewiart.com/forum/topic/1-45381

Well, it's technically impressive, but otherwise boring.

[washka]

Hmm, now last war rewarded technique...
The design is not boring, it's really interesting.
But I do share your point of view in some way thefmilyofblood. :)

[thefmilyofblood]

Hmm, now last war rewarded technique...
The design is not boring, it's really interesting.
But I do share your point of view in some way thefmilyofblood. :)

I understand that it's a competition of technical skill, but I still would like to see some new(ish) ideas bandied about. His just looks the same as N0X.

[DeadlyFreeze]

I wouldn't say it's a competition of technical skill, it's a competition on design and technical skill is a part of that.

Slipgate designed something and used his technical skill to achieve that design, that's what made it great.

[wil_himura]

Are you refferring to this http://www.cgtalk.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=23293?

Technically awesome, and although there are hundreds of drones, cyborgs, mechas out there, this one is quite original. Outstanding in many ways, this guy had everything under control, even the armor functionality. Bravo.


I regret I missed so many good work in past copetitions...

[thefmilyofblood]

Are you refferring to this http://www.cgtalk.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=23293?

Yeah, that's the one.

[washka]

Big technical skills:
http://www.ljplus.ru/img4/f/i/first_keeper/Cranch.jpg

[Steban]

we must try that method :)

[DeadlyFreeze]

Hey that takes a lot of skill to be able to drink that **** and have your kidneys still work! lol

[washka]

Not sure they still work...

Interesting stuff (Don't if there is any "Big fish" there)
3D GA:
http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showthread.php?t=19734&page=4
http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showthread.php?t=19660&page=6
http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showthread.php?t=19911&page=3
http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showthread.php?t=19682&page=3
http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showthread.php?t=19454&page=5
http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showthread.php?t=19513&page=5
http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showthread.php?t=19732&page=3

2D GA:
http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showthread.php?t=19523
http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showthread.php?t=20112

[paulius-st]

some nice entirs you found . but i dont think that most of them i could describe as gods. most of them are generals at their best. i realy liked that stuart little the rat god :D .

[Crispy4004]

some nice entirs you found . but i dont think that most of them i could describe as gods. most of them are generals at their best.

I completely understand what you're saying, but that's where you run into a grey area. For example, pretty much all the Norse Gods look like Generals. Does that make them any less God-like?

Don't get me wrong, some of these definitely need to play up the theme a bit more, but the characteristics that make a God look like a God are completely subjective and change from culture to culture.

[washka]

are completely subjective and change from culture to culture.

Even if there are somes similar patterns in a comparative point of view.
One simple exemple: a big majority is extraordinary.

We could make a list of those, could be interesting.

The god definition:
...???...
-supreme/superiority/transcendance/surnatural

[Crispy4004]

Haha, the people at Game-Artist.net (http://www.game-artist.net/forums/domwar-v-3d-character-art/) must be thrilled right now. You can't beat those 4-1 odds to get a shot at the finals.

[BiG ToE-3DT]

yeah, that's why they teamed up with two other smaller forums. But it wont help them. It could be all the forums as a team against us. They are still going to lose.

[washka]

Game artisan has a lot of members, they got the number but we got the sack.
The CG ones have got some hot powers, I won't talk about the Rus, or Leevi for 2D...
And worst thing for me: Chikin is on CGhub. :''''(
http://cghub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5853

[BiG ToE-3DT]

it's not working, will have to check it later.

[rocneasta]

gameartisans.org isn't active? server issues? or we won the war already !!!

[paulius-st]

they have surrendered. i think i saw some white flags at their base

[peppe3d]

it's still down..

[mix_mash]

A few entries here if anyone cares.

http://www.zbrushcentral.com/forumdisplay.php?f=119

Paul
(mix_mash)

[wil_himura]

Great sculpting job in this one:

http://www.zbrushcentral.com/showthread.php?t=120605

Liking this one aswell:

http://www.ddez.fr/turntable/index.php?turnt=Moksha_Design

[paulius-st]

damn those russians for being so awesome at everything. hrrrr

http://arttalk.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6038&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=60
http://arttalk.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6049&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15
http://arttalk.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6030&start=15
http://arttalk.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5889&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
same goes for lewiart :(
looks similar to last years winner but still awsome entrie
http://www.leewiart.com/forum/topic/14-45381

[wil_himura]

Those models sure are awesome and technically impresive. They even might have some elements other alike models don't... but I'm so tired of seeing mechas over there.

Over time, some artists were not technical monsters but creative geniuses. The topic is craft a God. Really, finding myself facing that model from leewiart sure leaves my underwear dirty... but I wouldn't say: "Hey run! It's a God!"...

My experience with judges is 0, but I trust we have some really original and creative ppl working here. I won't fight against that bunch of hard surface detailing, that's for sure.

[mix_mash]

damn those russians for being so awesome at everything. hrrrr

It's a European thing! They tend to be more skilled with art. Also, many geniuses come from European stock. Not to say that the rest of the world is stupid or talentless. It's just that, in general, cultural influence can shape ones skills and abilities.

It's scary when you look at other peoples' work and be discouraged but there is a specific outline which people have to stick to and the work can be pointless if the guidelines aren't followed to what the "client" wants.

Also, just because a piece is complex and technically impressive doesn't mean that's what the judges are looking for. Just keep working on your pieces with pride as this is also a learning experience.

Paul
(mix_mash)

[paulius-st]

It's a European thing! They tend to be more skilled with art. Also, many geniuses come from European stock


its a education thing. i remember when we were still in soviet union and after that for about 10 years we had allmost the same program at schools that gave wery strong education. arts and physical education were no exlusion.

[wil_himura]

So... those russians are trained to craft ultra modern technology weapons then as you can see by their entries :P

[paulius-st]

So... those russians are trained to craft ultra modern technology weapons then as you can see by their entries :P

speaking from a scientific point -YES. people from former USSR block that are born in 20th century grew up smarter and stronger cause there were this akward situation - all the worl was 10years in fornt of them and the ussr was like a gigant jungle. you had to outsmart or overpower the people and system to live. its hard to explain the whole thing in a few words. its all in the way that people think.
and what i just said is from a personal experiance (i my slef am from a former ussr) and from scientific books i have red.

[wil_himura]

Yo 2D'ers, it seems this guy is in. Check his almost finished DW IV entry (http://aeonseraph.cgsociety.org/gallery/760265/)

[paulius-st]

great 2d scils, but witch forum does he represent? cgsociety?

[wil_himura]

Yeah sorry, forgot to mention where his entry is. No WIP images yet tho... he might do 95% of the job again and don't make it in :D

[paulius-st]

i hope he makes his 95% . its allways a pleasure to see such talent creating, even if its war :) .

[Martin_x]

This guy has pretty cool sculpt:
http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showthread.php?t=20374

[paulius-st]

specnaz allways brings something interesting :)

[washka]

This guy has pretty cool sculpt:
http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/s...ad.php?t=20374

Nicezzz stuff, great sculpt.

[paulius-st]

saw these on cgland. looks great

http://dominancewar.cgland.com/index.html?dwmode=wip&dwmodes=view&part=doddd-3d&no=45316&sort=&hno=&page1=3&page=4
http://dominancewar.cgland.com/index.html?dwmode=wip&dwmodes=view&part=doddd-3d&no=45332&sort=&hno=&page1=1&page=8

and here is a interesting design
http://www.3dvf.com/forum/3dvf/Dominance-War-V-Always-Frogs/Participants-3D/dominance-ydrasi-pandorabox-sujet_98_1.htm

[washka]

Nice fishing Paulius!

[wil_himura]

Checking dominance war web site you can see current entries for the many different sites,

I've been checking leewi's ones http://www.gameartisans.org/contests/domwar/5/entries_leewiart_3d.html

There's great work there... it's gonna be a hard battle :S
http://arttalk.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5917


You can also check the others ;)

[washka]

Somes 2D entries from CG society:
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=329&t=966836&page=5
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=329&t=965841&page=2&pp=15

[LemonW]

I am not sure this guy has been noticed or not.
I really like its design.
http://arttalk.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5854

[BiG ToE-3DT]

this guy is blowing away all competition. here (http://cghub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5853&page=4)

[paulius-st]

he somehow reminds me of washka :D .

[wil_himura]

This is an awesome job:
CGLand [painzang-[pain God] (http://dominancewar.cgland.com/index.html?dwmode=wip&dwmodes=view&part=doddd-3d&no=45299&page1=2)

[Martin_x]

This entry is nice:
http://arttalk.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5882&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=315

[paulius-st]

this is just sick on every way.
http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showthread.php?t=19495&page=6

[wil_himura]

Paulius - Impressive and sick indeed... Great sculpt, original concept.

One of my faves:
http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showthread.php?t=20068

http://i56.tinypic.com/25zo7zp.jpg

[Martin_x]

Another amaizing piece: http://www.gameartisans.org/forums/showthread.php?t=20309&page=7