Dominance War V - 3D - God Of Enlightenment - Newhere

[newhere]

I was gonna do a god of lust but to many perverted ideas came to mind. I thought i might tone it down a little with something more normal. Thing is i am out of ideas on how to bring the title i have to life. Comments will be appreciated.

UPDATE:
http://forums.3dtotal.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=179948&stc=1&d=1305059832

http://forums.3dtotal.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=180046&stc=1&d=1305237292

http://forums.3dtotal.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=179903&stc=1&d=1304994734

[chris_solo]

good choice and good luck friend!

[newhere]

Yeah gonna need it.

[Crispy4004]

Good luck again this year newhere.

As for chris_solo... there is a special place in hell for traitors ;).

[washka]

As for chris_solo... there is a special place in hell for traitors .
We'll cook him with cheese and onions if he doesn't win.
:D :D :D

Gl onto da comp newhere, I'll keep an eye here like last war!

[newhere]

Thanks for the comments everyone. I still have no idea on what kind of concept to make. i do have one thought tho of making just a normal looking person that has god of enlightenment abilities or just a crazy armored fancy looking god......man i am so stuck right now!!.

[newhere]

yes i know it sucks...but that's what i have for now.....thinking on putting some fancy armor on him. let me know what you think.

[miclepickle]

I really like this so far... but he needs to be a bit less nekkid :P

id like to see some some multiple objects coming out of its back to create an arc.... something like Puckducker's Dark Matter:

http://forums.3dtotal.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=139624&stc=1&d=1242790673

[Warlock 279]

God of the electric underwear?

When you say "enlightenment" do you mean 'light" [as in the opposite of dark] or do you mean "knowledge"? If you meant "light" then perhaps you wanted "the god of illumination"?

Anyway, semantics aside, I think you've got an interesting start. I like the head, that's pretty groovy. Maybe you could work something with transparency, where he dissolves into just a mass of tangled "lightning bolts" for his legs or something.

Play with the proportions some, maybe he looks something like the Hulk crossed with a gorilla, or maybe he's really skinny. What if he has giant hands? Or what is his hands aren't even attached but instead consist of pure energy?

I think you've got a good start with the head, armor could make the body more interesting, but I'd like to see you play with proportions some more first, see if you can't make the body more interesting by itself, rather than throwing armor at it.

[newhere]

TO miclepickle: Thanks...and yes i am still working on it.

TO Warlock 279: Yeah i was gonna change the body type to something like the hulk from Marvel vs. Capcom 3 but not make him to buff. And as far as the name i meant it as both hence you know En"lighten"ment lol.

[zugok]

I like your concept so far. IMHO, you may consider keeping the amount of extra detail or armor bit to one or two points of interest so it won't compete with what you have already. miclepickle suggestion might work great since it will be somewhat similar to the head.

Cheers

[newhere]

thanks...i will keep that in mind.

[Warlock 279]

And as far as the name i meant it as both hence you know En"lighten"ment lol.

AH! Clever, clever, word play and all that.

[newhere]

hehe

[BiG ToE-3DT]

do god of lust.

[washka]

I still have no idea on what kind of concept to make. i do have one thought tho of making just a normal looking person that has god of enlightenment abilities or just a crazy armored fancy looking god......man i am so stuck right now!!.

Go try find some good reference about god'n stuff, when you start to get some nice inspiration from it, when you start to build your own idea, go for it and develop.

[Puckducker]

Bah, don't use that Dark Matter character for reference....terrible terrible model, I wouldn't want to be the guy who came up with that idea.

Anyways, I like the lighting idea, I think you just need to expand on what you've initially got. Think beyond just the basic human proportions/layout. Maybe your dude has no legs, maybe he floats on lighting, maybe there is more of a mechanical aspect to him to generate electricity. Try out everything!

[newhere]

BiG ToE-3DT: Hehe i was going to do that first but trust me, the idea i had for that was so pornographically insane that i would get disqualified times ten :) maybe in another competition other then DW i would make a god of lust character.

washka: Doing that as i speak. :)

Puckducker: LOL....yeah the electricity he got comes from his heart kuz his heart generates it. And the idea is to make his appearance look like the body of Thor but at the same time make armor that fits him perfectly and does not overcrowd his other visual attributes.

[newhere]

Finished the body shape and photoshoped the lighting....still wondering on armor.

[wil_himura]

Nice thing this God has.... :P

Good base mesh! :P

[newhere]

hehe...well hey if the shoe fits.

[mix_mash]

Yes, he does have a big ... thingy.

Maybe he should be the God of Male Intimidation ;P

Paul
(mix_mash)

[newhere]

Hahahahaha!!!!!!!! that's a good one.

[Whitewidow]

Holy cow, does that count as a weapon?

Probably used up half your poly's with that thang

[newhere]

hehe you what, come to think of it...i might have to cut it off to save polygons.

[washka]

hehe...well hey if the shoe fits.
hehe you what, come to think of it...i might have to cut it off to save polygons.

I knew it was a fake one! No balls, no balls! :D

(Nice work so far! Some more wrist work)

[newhere]

I didn't want to do this but i had to post a close up for ya. And yes...there are balls on him. :) as far as the wrist work...i'm still working on that as well as other detailing for the body before i move forward to armor.

[washka]

I hope you won't have to cut those for poly...

[newhere]

me either because i would love to use them so i can teabag the other websites who are competing against us.

[mix_mash]

hehe...well hey if the shoe fits.

Shoe?! You could fit that thing inside of a boot!

Paul
(mix_mash)

PS: Well, he is a god and I suppose the whole idea is to make things bigger and more impressive. Just don't change your mind and go for a goddess and keep the same 'equipment'.

[Kaiune3D]

hehe you what, come to think of it...i might have to cut it off to save polygons.

Then he would be the god of unfortunate circumstances or more the god of unfortunate circumcisions.

[paulius-st]

:D hahah lol. now thats a god of f****ing :D . i have only one crit. for such a manly sized "weapon" it has a boy sized sack. give bigger balls to him cause it will be hard to "tea bag" other forums with a small sack :D .

[newhere]

mix_mash: HAHAHAHA!!!! you know i was going to add that sort of "equipment" somewhere on the god of lust character when i have thought of it....or a few :)

Kaiune3D: "Quote: Then he would be the god of unfortunate circumstances or more the god of unfortunate circumcisions."

Hahahahaaaa...now we would not want to have that now would we. How would we ever do our nut slap victory dance without it :)


paulius-st: Wish granted.....

[wil_himura]

hehe you what, come to think of it...i might have to cut it off to save polygons.

keep the same 'equipment'.

...

Great "entry" :D

[washka]

Better size.
You'll blow up them all!

[newhere]

Hahahaha!!!!!

[newhere]

Still got a long way to go....

[Puckducker]

That's some shinny armor he's got on. The boots seem a bit too large and over armored compared to the rest of the character though, but I don't know what else you plan to add.

[capitan_popo]

hahahahah what a dick hahaha :dance: keep the work coming:D

[paulius-st]

coming along niceley. it somehow reminds me of this man :D

[SquallLion1]

Still got a long way to go....
excellent
I love his colour skin

[newhere]

Puckducker: I plan on adding grey hair and more armor. Gonna try to make it more better looking then it is now.

capitan_popo: :)

paulius-st: I know doesn't it? :)

SquallLion1: Thanks :)

[washka]

Keep up da good work man, like this kind of disco-electro-retro-n stuff mood.
Enlight them all!

[newhere]

hehe thanks :) more to post soon.

[newhere]

:)

[SquallLion1]

awesome !

[Tycane3D]

Finished the body shape and photoshoped the lighting....still wondering on armor.

LOLZ!.

ok, i'm sure i would have cringed on every stroke u made on that beast.....get it...stroke....

Be sure not to overuse the polish brush on that one....

Did the topology allow for easy inflation?


....wait wait i got one more...

Ur sure not gonna have to use the magnify brush on that one........ok..lame hehe.


The rest is also kewl :D

[Warlock 279]

One crit, something's not quite right with the chest. Seems like the pecs are sunken into the rib cage rather than sitting on top, also looks like the rib cage is too wide, might be worth taking a look at that.

I like where you're heading with the armor and clothing so far.

[newhere]

changed the waist area and fixed the chest area a lil. thanks everyone for the comments.

[newhere]

Photoshopped the lighting:

[SquallLion1]

is the texture of the dress is over ?

[washka]

Sorry, couldn't retraint myself to paintover too...
Hope you'll take it lightly. :D

Keep it up!

(Oups, I've just seen that I forgot lightnings. : /)

[newhere]

SquallLion1: still not finished with everything so nothing is final.

washka: lol......i see you got jokes huh? which reminds me....i forgot to add a cape.

[newhere]

added more detailing to the model:

[newhere]

if any one has any thoughts on armor improvement....please let me know :)

[SquallLion1]

the rope, the dress.. good work !
go on, pal!

[paulius-st]

looks good, but there are 3 things that bugs my eye.
1 - the rope. it looks more like this http://riverflowhomeopathy.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/anatomyGI.jpg than like a rope. the main problem is that the pattern is not complete and only a pair of bumps that go all over the "rope"\
2 -3dt logo doesnt integrate it to whole desing . i would look better imo if it was some kind of a medalion or other acsesorie.
3- where did his "manly weapon" go? did a drunk rabbi miss when doing circumcision ? :D

[newhere]

SquallLion1: Thanks and i appreciate the support.

paulius-st: Thanks for the comment........i am still working on the model so nothing is really final yet. Been doing searches on google.com to look at rope pictures and i found a few that looks good enough for me to get good angles of it for me to model. The 3dt logo i want it as an implant (sort of) to his heart. The idea is to have it as a conductor to help amplify the electricity that his body/heart and blood produces.

And as far as his "Manly Weapon"....it's still there hidden under his clothing, waiting to secretly disable all of the female warriors in the Dominance War that tries to buck up against him :)

[SquallLion1]

SquallLion1: Thanks and i appreciate the support.

you're welcome !I know you can do better than one ;P

[newhere]

Changed the rope shape on the waist:

[paulius-st]

the rope it self is now better but it's too thick.

[SquallLion1]

the rope is better, bravo !

may you made it a bit smaller ?

[newhere]

hows this:

[paulius-st]

hows this:

<a href="http://www.gifbin.com/982578"><img src="http://www.gifbin.com/bin/1237811519_chuck-norris-approves.gif" alt="funny gifs" /></a>

[newhere]

Update:

[newhere]

please let me know if there is anything you would like added on the armor.

[paulius-st]

for my taste it lacks some more detailing and acsesories, but i must agrea it looks good allready. i like its face very much - it has personalitie and its calm Michael Jai White and wesley snipes expresion :) .
hows about hermie's(mercurie greek/roman mythology) shoes?
and about that 3dt logo as light emitter - hows about something like this http://dvice.com/archives/2010/02/your-very-own-a.php . and make it like iron man's chest power source.

[newhere]

Good ideas...i will keep that in mind. You think he would look good with a cape or not?

also where does it lack detailing?

[paulius-st]

cape? nope, leave it for superheroe's. as for details i think more elements and parts would look better(dont want to sound like a dushe or a55 but my model has more details only on his jaw than your whole model). after all its a next gen character and you have lots of polys to play with. so some scars, pattern on the dress, some ornaments on armor peaces, some more armor peaces, some more acesories like weapon or scepter, rocket lounchers, some slave creatures like thunder gargoyls or something like that, and so on..... you have only about 4-5 elements on your model . and to be honest and fair - the model isnt the most original or very unique in design and his acesories ar very poor of detail so something that would catch an eye from the first look would be usefull for it. for example - when you didnt hide his enormous penis everyone spoted it from a first look and this made it original in its own way. then only one thought came to mind - "this dude has some balls of steel to do this" :) .
hope its helpfull. and if my words sounded harsh or unpleasent here is something inspiring from kekai kotaki to ilustrate my idea about slave gargoyles.
good luck on this and i'll ceep an eye for more updates :)

[newhere]

you know...i have been sitting here looking at wings in a google search for like the past 2 hours. hehe since our great minds think alike i am going to add some. and yes that's true i only added little detailing so far but remember contest ain't over yet so there is no need to rush.

[newhere]

Red bull gives you:

[Warlock 279]

Wings are cool. You thought about electric wings perhaps? [Nothing wrong with ones you got, just throwing it out there as an avenue to explore.]

Armor wise, I think he looks about right for a god.

He could use a whompin' stick of some sort tho. Some kind of elegant/clean/simple staff I think would work.

[SquallLion1]

'red bull' :haha:

[newhere]

Warlock 279: I have thought of it but i was thinking that putting glow on everything would be better. As far as a weapon...what kind of whomping stick are you referring to?

SquallLion1: :)

[Warlock 279]

Ya, glow might play out better than electric wings, they'd be a bit tough to pull off, and could really go awry.

As far as whompin' sticks, I think was thing some classical, something simple design wise. You've kept your model pretty clean so far, so it doesn't make sense to have an insanely complex staff. Maybe something with some levitating rings, maybe a coil of some sort, maybe something like Poseidon's trident, but missing a prong, so that it arcs like a stun gun? Something along those lines.

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w303/Warlock279/Mini%20Tutorials/newhere-Staff_01.jpg

[newhere]

Thanks for the input Warlock 279. i will take this into consideration.

[newhere]

.............

[newhere]

Made shield now for the sword...

[SquallLion1]

THE SHIELD IS beautifull but something is wrong about special effect
too shiny? too plastic ? I dunno

[newhere]

oh yeah don't worry about that....once i down grade to low poly it will all be fixed.

[SquallLion1]

fine! fine !

[newhere]

Almost done with the sword:

[washka]

Good work coming along here, about threedy logo maybe some shiny chain/medallion?
Like the shield, but I think center details are a bit too "blury cellular", if you see what I mean? Maybe some more cleaning refinement there could help.

Also like new wings, you could make 2 rows of feathers => ref.

Keep up on this way, gl and hf!

[SquallLion1]

the shield is perfect
but why the god don't take it?

[TMNI VISION]

Nice work :) , waiting to see more detail on the armor too .

[newhere]

Thanks for the comments guys. Model is still not complete yet.

[newhere]

Changed the wings:

[newhere]

Lowpoly so far:

[SquallLion1]

stunning

[newhere]

thanks

[newhere]

Brightened up skin color a tiny bit more:

[newhere]

messed with the colors and shadowing a bit more:

[SquallLion1]

excellent !

[newhere]

where is his shield ?

I updated the photo above check it again. :)

[newhere]

In - game Model.......still got more things to add and i am remaking the sword because i don't like how it turned out.

[Siah]

Any chance of some shots of wires and/or UV maps?
Definitely getting there.
Not sure about the wings... are they double sided polys? or have you given them thickness?

Keep it up

[newhere]

To Siah: i will make wireframe pics soon as i am completely done with everything. wings on the high is polygonal and wings on the in game model is double sided.

made a new sword model. this is a lot better then the old one:

[newhere]

Update:

[SquallLion1]

something is wrong on the blade
it's stunning but don't forget it's a blade (the handle is good, the lighting is good)

[newhere]

something is wrong on the blade
it's stunning but don't forget it's a blade (the handle is good, the lighting is good)

What's wrong on the blade?

[SquallLion1]

excellent!
the lightning was pretty you know


er, did you notice the blade is not long enough? it's either a dagger or a sword
look at these
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_6zDg4YJFZQE/TEQ8R9NmP_I/AAAAAAAAAwA/kooQtIHWJ-0/s1600/ist2_4771315-sword-cross-swords.jpg

[newhere]

After i add the lightning going thru his veins on his skin i gonna go back and re-texture the wings:

[SquallLion1]

it rocks !!:cool:

[newhere]

:)

[newhere]

I'm so close to being done that i can taste victory :)
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x52/newhere_bucket/GodOfEnlightment360spin.gif

[newhere]

Finished :)

[SquallLion1]

bravo!
so, any lightening on the blade?

[BiG ToE-3DT]

what's your tri count. Hopefully you have some to play with. Right now the lightining on the body, doesn't look like lightining on the body. But if you have the lightining floating over the body, it should look better, read better. Instead of just body paint.

[Puckducker]

Agree with Toe, the lighting could use some extra love'n. It's looking pretty good without the lightning, but the way you have it wrapping around the body, how it follows muscle contours perfectly, it doesn't sit or read well enough.

Still time to get it perfect, you're almost there with it. It's looking pretty good otherwise.

[newhere]

SquallLion1: Yeah...i was gonna add it later when i do the presentation photos n stuff.

BiG ToE-3DT: Tri count is 9,807 polys. As far as the lightning on the body....i have it going thru a luminosity channel (which helps it to light up on the body but does not help it to glow so it would look like lightning.) i have been sitting here trying to figure out how to make it glow.

Puckducker: Thanks....i am still trying to figure out how to make it glow when i render it so it will look proper.

[newhere]

I think this looks better:

[newhere]

:)

[SquallLion1]

I wondered : the white lines on the body are... lightening ?

[newhere]

yes it is you can view an animation of it here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gieG0H2ZIBg

[SquallLion1]

sorry but the lightening effect on his skin does'nt work. it seems white veins.
although, on the blade, it works.
I hope you understood me

[newhere]

yes...i still need to figure out how to make the alpha map of it glow on the body so it will look right.....if anyone knows how to do it please let me know.

[SquallLion1]

with DAZ studio, maybe I could help you
but here..

[newhere]

how do you do it in DAZ studio?

[SquallLion1]

how do you do it in DAZ studio?
until now, I don't know :haha:

first, I'll use two maps for the lightening and I'use transparence ( 20-30% one, 60 the second for examples)
and I'll edit the light map (color ambient) and/or reflect
and I render in order to learn what effect work

[newhere]

ok....i have one alpha map i am using in the luminosity channel which is brightened to 100. thing is i don't know how to make it glow so the texture can look right. i will try what you said about using color ambient to light up the map and see if it works.

[SquallLion1]

ok....i have one alpha map i am using in the luminosity channel which is brightened to 100. thing is i don't know how to make it glow so the texture can look right. i will try what you said about using color ambient to light up the map and see if it works.
glow? it's lightening, pal.
use light map or reflect.

[newhere]

Ok guys and girls...this is the best to my knowledge i can do as far as making it glow using all the channels i know in Lightwave3D:

[SquallLion1]

It's much better!
but you can still do better. The lightening seems a bit line one skin
use transparent map or anything else..

[BiG ToE-3DT]

it will never look right, if you keep it in the skin. It needs to be above the skin. You have plenty of tris leftover, you can make it work.

[Puckducker]

You shouldn't have it follow the contours of the muscles. That is what is making it look a lot more like purposefully design painted on lines, rather than energetic, dynamic lightning.

And like ToE suggested, try getting it up and above the skin too.

[newhere]

SquallLion1: thanks...i mean thats the best i can do for it :(

BiG ToE-3DT: I'm gonna do that and render it and see how it looks.

Puckducker: True but i want the design to look like that. I just got to get it to look right, that's all. I so want to finish this so i can turn it in. i need to get out of my man cave and into some real girl boobies :)

[newhere]

Just tried what you said about making it above the the skin. thing is when i do it, it makes the tri count go way over the poly limit so i guess that's out of the question.

[BiG ToE-3DT]

you shouldn't need more than 1,000 tris to pull it off. 1,500 at the most.

Can you post a wire frame with the new lightining?

[mix_mash]

You know, with the lightning, if you varied the thickness of the branches it might look better. Also, if you added a small tinge of colour to it, it might be more appealing.

Paul
(mix_mash)

[newhere]

here are the wires......http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gieG0H2ZIBg

[TMNI VISION]

You can make the head a little smaller and it will make the character bigger and more powerful . With all the hair the head looks bigger and makes it smaller proportionally . I think you can do this minor changes even in this stage . Good effort so far . Keep it up :) .

[newhere]

shrunk the head:

[newhere]

Main Final image(rough):

[Puckducker]

I'm assuming that the skeleton you have on the ground is the same skeleton character you did for the last dominance war. I don't know if you'll be able to use that, the rules say you can't use anything pre-made for your entries.

It's not a big deal but I wouldn't want to see your entry disqualified for such a little thing, if that were the case.

[newhere]

Yes but it does not say anything about using it. They said for the "main final image" i can do what ever i want to it. The actual one is without bones......look below:

[newhere]

Wow....i was gonna send in my entries to the DW website just to find out they pushed the date back which now makes the submit button in-active until the final week. :(

oh well...let do some more touch ups of the pics before that time comes.

[newhere]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5roUejGVALc

[newhere]

Changed the presentation shot:

[newhere]

Just messing around "playing God" (Pun intended):

[JWHLing]

I just noticed that you don't have the 3dtotal logo on the character, or I didn't see it. Did you place it anywhere hidden? I don't see it, I might be blind. I think rules are you need the logo on the model or use the color scheme on the character. Good thing your done your pretty much done, maybe you can add in the logo in to your character.

[Pockets]

yeah, he's got it on the bottom of the sternum, although it is a little difficult to see with the lightning there...it's easier to see it on the presentation shot

[JWHLing]

Cool I see it now. How did you do your wings? Is that with transparency map?

[squarefighter]

I really like the sword but I think it's a bit too big for the reverse grip like that. That's better for a short/skinny weapon. He could crouch down a little more too, to give him a little more intensity. And those light streaks go through his hands and feet, but why do they stop at his beard?

[newhere]

Remember everyone he is a god so holding a sword like that is not a problem. also the logo is on his chest in the presentation shot and the wings are alpha mapped...Another mess around pic:

[newhere]

**Finals Submitted**

[newhere]

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x52/newhere_bucket/GodOfEnlightment.gif

[newhere]

Good luck to everyone who finished and sent in their entry :)

[SquallLion1]

good work and thanks!

[newhere]

:)

[washka]

Nice submit stuff man, like the "mess around pics".

[Vitrux]

Good job man,! Good Luck :dance:

[newhere]

:)

[newhere]

Tell all of your friends to vote for me here:
http://wwww.gameartisans.org/contests/domwar/5/entries_3dtotal_3d.html