SMC #16 A Game Of Thrones - Medieval Fantasy

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

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The Challenge Rules

1). Each challenge we'll post a subject for you to model along with a time limit on how long you should spend on it. Spend no longer than the allocated time then post a render of your model. No cheating, we are relying on your honesty here and the idea of speed modeling is to simulate a "real world" environment. If you are working on a project and asked to show a concept model you'll need to be able to get somewhere near the target in the allocated time. Your submission should be a model created especially for this challenge and not one you have stored on your hard drive. How you interpret the brief is up to you as long as the final model conforms to what we have asked for. Any images of models that do not match the brief can be removed and the poster disqualified.

2). You may enter as many times as you like as long as each model is completely new and uses no components from other entries. Entries using models which are not original will be removed and the poster disqualified.

3). Your entry may contain as many views of your model as you like and must include a clear and easy to see wireframe of the mesh before any smoothing/subdivision has been applied. Wire renders/ Cell Shaded or Screengrab wireframes are acceptable. Any wireframes we cannot see correctly will be disqualified. The key is for us to be able to see the wireframes clearly to ascertain how you modelled the subject matter.

4). You MUST include the following details with each submission:

A). Software used
B). Time spent creating the model.

Any further information is voluntary but posts not containing the required information can be removed and the poster disqualified.

5). Post TWO images per entry which must be no larger than 1280x1024 pixels in either landscape or portrait format with a file size of no more than 195k.
1 image for your wireframes and 1 for your clay combined with a optional beauty render.
These images must be uploaded to our servers using the "browse" button on the forum reply page.
Do not link to external images files. Images larger than the maximum size or posts containing links to external images (other than for reference materials)
will be removed and the poster disqualified.

6). The creation of displacement maps, normal maps and any splines drawn out in an external program other than your modeling software are to be included in your modeling time.

7). Time spent on rendering or texturing or building a scene in which to display your model is not included in the allocated period to allow those with slower machines to participate on an even playing field. What we are looking for is the quality of the models you can produce "under pressure". If your model is not complete, you can still post it as long as it's recognizable.

8). Posting the same entry twice in a challenge is considered to be double posting and will result in a disqualification. When asked to fix a previous post due to DQ or any other reason, you must fix the first post, or delete it altogether and create a new one.

9). The Winner must email jo@3dtotal.com to claim their prize.

10). Only 1st place & 2nd place (i.e. the runner up) can claim a prize.

These rules apply to everybody taking part there will be NO exceptions!

Subject: Medieval Fantasy.
Deadline - 10:00PM GMT Friday 8th July 2011
Description: Medieval fantasy is a subgenre of fantasy that encompasses medieval era high fantasy and sometimes simply represents fictitious versions of historic events. This subgenre is common among role-playing games, text-based roleplaying, and high-fantasy literature., film and television. While the setting has a medieval theme, in no way must it be set in any real world medieval setting, hence the appearance of dragons, goblins, orcs, giants, mages, magicians, wizards and witches etc. This is your opportunity to create a medieval fantasy weapon, creature or scene. You could make it easy on yourself and make a sword/armour/sheild or you could create a castle/castle interior, monster or even a dragon!

Modelling Time: 90 Mins.

Prizes:

1st Place - £30 worth of 3DTotal downloadable products & a gold award badge.
2nd Place - £10 worth of 3DTotal downloadable products & a silver award badge.
Honourable Mentions - Bronze Award Badges

Above All Else Have Fun & Good Luck!


My Starter

Please excuse the poor renders, but didn't have alot of time to get this ready. Definately wanna do more entries for this one. should be a good one :)

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/starter01.jpg
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/starter02.jpg

[rocneasta]

open hunting season on diversity and creativity... now in session !!!

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Any questions etc I will answer tommorrow.... my PS3 and bed awaits.....

[Neil_F01]

cool comp... hopefully i'll think of something when i'm sober and not drunk... lol

[rockyourteeth]

Uh oh, I think it's time to flip through my D&D handbooks for some ideas!

[Neil_F01]

cool

[paulius-st]

sounds interesting. i hope i'll find some time tonight to squise this one in to my plans :) . i think i'll do a knight or some kind of a dragon. something funny indeed :) .
CG - good one. looking for more from you :)
good luck to all

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Feel a bit happier about this one rather than the starter. Textures could still do with some tweaks here and there, but overall pretty happy with the modellling side of things.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/throne02.jpg
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/throne01.jpg

Back to playing Infamous on the PS3 for me now, i'm addicated, also really enjoying Motorstorm, MK Vs DC and GTA IV :)

[Neil_F01]

thats really cool dude..

[chichiri]

Here's a quick try at modelling a wizard head (modelled with Blender in 84 minutes):
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/3104/wizardwire.png
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/3104/wizardwire.png
I like your throne ClassicGamer-3DT, the textures are really nice.

[astroAJ]

CG: Great throne I like the carved details u added. I think that the wood texture might need a bit of work though :)

Chichiri: Really like the head, U could develop it a bit more seeing as this is a 90min challenge :D

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Yeah the wood was poor :)

Just got Red Dead Redemption & Call Of Duty World At War i'm gonna be busy this afternoon :)

[paulius-st]

CG - great throne :) . would like to have one at home .
chichiri - i agrea with astroAJ - you could have developed it more cause you have more than half an hour left. but non the less - good one.

here is my entry . not as great as others but was in a mood to escape from all that hard surface stuff from work and did a knight's bust
inspired by the pixars incredibles so if there is some likeness - blame pixar for making awesome characters i cant resist to adore. :D
spent allmost all time on it - 88min. wish i had more time so i could build the whole character.
hope you guys like it :)

[Neil_F01]

whats with everyone doing smoothed wireframes..

love the characters though.. look cool..

[paulius-st]

whats with everyone doing smoothed wireframes..

love the characters though.. look cool..

well because without them you will not understand the wireframe. in my case the model has extreme angles betvien edges so its hard to recognise the topology. and ofcourse it looks better in this case :)
here is a actual file so those who dont like smoothed wires could have a closer look at it :D . o

[chichiri]

I've spent a few more time to add clothes and hands. I really like the expression of your character paulius-st.

[Neil_F01]

nah nah.. you dont get me paulius.. its nothing personal.. its just the rules.. that wireframe render should be completed without the mesh smooth..

i think the mesh smooth is fine for the beauty render... But CG will confirm this i hope.. :D

[Neil_F01]

I've spent a few more time to add clothes and hands. I really like the expression of your character paulius-st.

i like your entry... i think with just a few edge loops around the mid section and some down the body a bit more.. to open the characters abs up..

keep it up.. :dance:

[rockyourteeth]

Yeah, great expression Paulius. I especially like the apostrophe on "3D's Max". I'm not making fun, I'm just an English teacher. :)

My entry's coming soon. It's done, but it's gotta render...

[Neil_F01]

well because without them you will not understand the wireframe. in my case the model has extreme angles betvien edges so its hard to recognise the topology. and ofcourse it looks better in this case :)
here is a actual file so those who dont like smoothed wires could have a closer look at it :D . o


i dont know if im slightly offended here... i mean.. yeah its a cool model.. you seem well competent with your tool and what not..

but you know.. most of us know what we are doing here i think.. i mean looking at most entries most weeks.. you know.. there is a high standard i guess..

but anyway.. i'm off to bed.. night all.. hopefully i'll think of something cool for this weeks comp..

[chichiri]

I didn't notice that in the rules, smoothed wireframes were forbidden. Thanks for the remark Neil_F01

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Feel free to post a smoothed wireframe aswell like sometimes as paulius-st stated the wireframes look far too extreme in angles, I know in Cinema 4D it's possible to put the mesh smoothing (hypernurbs) down to a lowest level, level 1 before it's no longer smoothed. In most cases it should be unsmoothed wireframes but additional smoothed wireframes can be added also but only if the unsmoothed object is unrecognisible.

[paulius-st]

thanks guys .
Neil_F01 - no intentions to offend. if i have offended then sorry, didnt meen to. i get your point about wires. will update my entry with unsmoothed wires . i atatched a model so people could have a closer perview of it if they wanted to.

[Neil_F01]

thanks guys .
Neil_F01 - no intentions to offend. if i have offended then sorry, didnt meen to. i get your point about wires. will update my entry with unsmoothed wires . i atatched a model so people could have a closer perview of it if they wanted to.

nah not really offended.. you know what i mean though..

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Had a little bit of free time earlier today so decided to try another entry. This is a daft one really, half the reason was to try modelling some armor and the other half was an excuse to try and model the Iron Man chest piece. I'm fairly happy with the look and the shape, there's still alot of details that aren't quite right. One thing's for sure there's so many references out there for Iron Man that I didn't have any trouble finding side, top, front pics etc. It seems just about every modeller on earth has modelled Iron Man lol.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/IronManChestArmourRenderComp.jpg
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk208/classicgamer-3dt/IMWireClayComp.jpg

Again not my best attempt at texturing, did what I could to try and rust/dirty the armor up, replaced the oh so familiar arc technology chest piece with a small fire chamber instead lol. It'd be interesting to see what the rest of Iron Man would look like in this style but I fear the head area and leg plates would be beyond me.

[astroAJ]

Like the idea CG and u have very clean typology.
I've almost finished mine, I'm just working on the beauty now :D

[astroAJ]

Hey guys, been I while since I last participated
made the hylian shield from zelda :)
Didn't manage to add all the details I wanted because I ran out of time and I wish I had more time to create a normal map and add all the extra bling :(

oh and I think this is the first time I managed to texture a SM lol

[rockyourteeth]

Here's my entry for this time around. A crystal ball. All the reflections took forever to render! Would have added more detail if I'd had more time, but it was my first time making something like this and I'm pretty happy with how it came out...

[rockyourteeth]

Flip it over and it could have been a crown! :)

[ocin]

cool entries everyone! will texture my entry tonight and hopefully upload it later!

[SherifAlaa55]

software used: 3ds max
Modeling time: 76 Mins Render Time :around 30 mins

i hope you like it ... waiting for your comments

[ocin]

ok, here is my entry! it is something like a troll/ orc dungeon. You see the evil orc eyes? :D

Hope you like it

[rockyourteeth]

Ocin, that's fantastic! I wish the beauty pass were a little brighter so I could see it better...

and Sherif A, that's awesome too. Can't believe what you guys can do in 90 minutes!

[Pablo Ferro]

Really intresting entries so far.

I ' m in a van in the middle of the Mohave Desert right now so no chance for me to model anything for thisw one:D

Good luck to everybody, see ya in 3 weeks :lame:

[rocneasta]

Really intresting entries so far.

I ' m in a van in the middle of the Mohave Desert right now so no chance for me to model anything for thisw one:D

Good luck to everybody, see ya in 3 weeks :lame:

hoping you live through this experience :)

[SherifAlaa55]

hey ocin ... how do you make that grass thing? did you model it yourself
or did you use max's AEC?

[ocin]

rockyourteeth: thanks, I will lighten it up a bit when I come home tonight.

SherifAlaa55: I just built 3 different blades of grass an placed them on the surface using pflow. You could also place them with scatter or even hair and fur.

cheers

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Some really great entries coming through, I hope there's much more still yet to come before this weeks challenge is over.

[rocneasta]

one question John, i'm not seeing a lot of "fantasy" or am i missing something - since in your outline you stated that entries should not be from real medieval scenery - what makes it real as opposed to fantasy?

blame it on my lack of fantasy experience

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Well..... er..... i took that from wikipedia .... so..... i just think it gives you free licence to create items from that era an take them up a notch, dragons, wizards, mages etc these never existed so go from there.... put it this way if you just model armor or a sword or axe or something i'm not gonna disqualify you..... it's up to you to take it to the next level or not :)

[rocneasta]

Well..... er..... i took that from wikipedia .... so..... i just think it gives you free licence to create items from that era an take them up a notch, dragons, wizards, mages etc these never existed so go from there.... put it this way if you just model armor or a sword or axe or something i'm not gonna disqualify you..... it's up to you to take it to the next level or not :)

i can see clearly now :)

[JAPO]

My schedule is still pretty full, I had to pass last week, but I will do my best to participate this week. I have already chosen my topic, looked at some references... and AMG I felt so old all of a sudden :hurt:

...actually I have 2 ideas. I will try to do both. One should be more fun than competition :D

Nice entries so far :)

[ocin]

I lightend my beauty render a bit! hope you can see more details now!

cheers

[rockyourteeth]

Yeah, Ocin, that looks a lot better. thumbs up.

[Neil_F01]

Ocin, that's fantastic! I wish the beauty pass were a little brighter so I could see it better...

and Sherif A, that's awesome too. Can't believe what you guys can do in 90 minutes!

what you on about, i thought the beauty render looked awesome..

[lunarion6]

Nice entries so far. Hopefully more to follow.

Here is my entry. I made two beauty renders, with varying trees/atmosphere/textures in vue 8.5. They represent 'Good' (colourful trees + light buildings) and 'Evil' (dead trees, red sky, dark buildings). I did this as Medieval Fantasy is mostly about good vs. evil.

The bridge and the tower are made in 3Dsmax, the rest in Vue. I also broke my 'polygon record' with my new pc totalling more than 8152 million polygons. The render that took the most time was the 'Good' render, although it was in a bigger resolution than shown on the picture (800x600). I used global illumination with superior render settings (I also tried a ultra render for a resolution of 1200x900, but I quit that after it only was half way done after 8 hours).

Hope you like it ;)

P.S. Which render you like the most? :D

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

very nice idea and well executed :) well done.

[rockyourteeth]

Neil_F01, I was just stating my opinion. Maybe it was my monitor? I don't know, but I couldn't see it very well. I think it looks much better now, but it's just me. Feel free to disagree.

lunarion6, very cool. I like the night time one, but they're both great! Now start animating an epic battle spanning that bridge!!!

[Edwiersma]

Some very nice entry's this week. Maybe if I'm home a little earlier I maybe could squeeze in another last-minute try.

[Ojah]

Some nice entries in here already, heres mine. Tried to create a dragon, ended up being a bit more cartoony then what i wanted, but happy with the result.

[SherifAlaa55]

Modelling time 86 mins using 3ds max

please comment... :D

[Neil_F01]

Neil_F01, I was just stating my opinion. Maybe it was my monitor? I don't know, but I couldn't see it very well. I think it looks much better now, but it's just me. Feel free to disagree.

lunarion6, very cool. I like the night time one, but they're both great! Now start animating an epic battle spanning that bridge!!!

dont worry about if chap.. i wasnt having a go i dont think.. dont actualy remember what was said in the first place.. i have a terrible memory for things..

[Neil_F01]

love all those last entries.. the dragon is awesome.. and the evil scene looked cool..

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Oh wow 2 great entries just now! :)

I'm halfway through the starter artwork, modelling and photoshop work at the moment for tonight's new SMC.... a clue it's something we all have/use... and involves hair :)

[rocneasta]

comb?

[cdavidson]

nice work guys.

keep getting ideas for these contests but sadly as a new user of 3dsmax i cant pull them off in the time given :) will join in the next 1 or 2 maybe after i learn abit more :).

[rockyourteeth]

it never hurts to try. If you don't finish in 90 minutes then oh well.

[Neil_F01]

nice work guys.

keep getting ideas for these contests but sadly as a new user of 3dsmax i cant pull them off in the time given :) will join in the next 1 or 2 maybe after i learn abit more :).

dont be like that dude.. just do what you can.. its not the winning.. i mean winning something here and there is awesome.. but its the entries.. these are things that are there to develop you as an artist..

and hell if you get really stuck on things.. just put up a wip or alternativily.. just get skype up and give me a shout..

[Ojah]

Thanks for the nice words :)

And, about the point of joining in, as for myself, I learned a lot during these contests, improved my workspeed at least 100%, probably more.
Got me thinking about what hotkeys to use and where to place them, created a few macroscripts just because I thought something could be done in less time after a smc.
Just try a few and you will treat the program different, more efficient, which is extremely valuable for all things concerning 3d :).

[lunarion6]

True, I learned a lot of the things I entered in these challenges. As it gives you a certain limit (in time and concept) and a deadline I learned a lot of new things in making 3D and actually finish my models :D (the deadline is really great for lazy finishers like me xd)

[SherifAlaa55]

Hey lunarion how did you make that terrain and the mountains?

[JAPO]

Aiiiiiii squeezing everything from my PC. its my joke entry after all. But hey... I wonder how classic ClassicGamer really is muchaCHACHA!

[JAPO]

Hey lunarion how did you make that terrain and the mountains?

Vue 8,5. Its software for generating terrain and vegetation

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Aiiiiiii squeezing everything from my PC. its my joke entry after all. But hey... I wonder how classic ClassicGamer really is muchaCHACHA!

Wha?! :wall:

[ocin]

Maybe JAPO just had too much czech beer! :D

[SherifAlaa55]

thanks japo but where do i get it or how much is it?

[ocin]

did you try google?

http://www.e-onsoftware.com/

[SherifAlaa55]

is there anyway i can make terrain without the software?

[JAPO]

My entry for this week. I had something else planned, but due to time constraints I had to scrap it and did this fun instead. Every classic gamer should recognize it. :D

Modelled in 3Ds Max in 1 hour and 10 minutes. Oh and the door is smoothed because I worked with the smoothed version after collapsing it. Its not oversight. I just did not save the work in progress model. And rocks are not smoothed. Just dense mesh.

[JAPO]

is there anyway i can make terrain without the software?

Sure thing, there are many ways, usually depending on how strong your PC is. I think there was a really great tutorial on 3Dtotal recently... sec...

go to tutorial section for 3Ds Max and look for 'Animating Cracks in the Ground'
by Roberth Vala. Great tutorial.

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Damn! i know that game, but can't for the life of me remember the name, how bad is that right? lol. Very good entry.

OK well this challenge is now over and the next one is already live and up and running, see you on the other side. :)

[rocneasta]

loving the beauty render JAPO, fun entry but loving it

[lunarion6]

That's a great last minute entry there JAPO ;D

@SherifAlaa55 Vue is indeed a program which specialises in terrain making. But there are indeed different methods you can make terrain in 3Dsmax. I did that once to, using displace. I think this tutorial shows you how: http://www.cgrats.com/creating-3d-terrain-in-3ds-max-modeling.html

[JAPO]

Thank you very much :)

The entry I had originally in mind, and which would have challenged my modelling skills a bit more, is from the very same game. It was... Beholder :D

Its first level of Eye of the Beholder.

[SherifAlaa55]

thanks every1

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

Ahhhhh yes! eye of the beholder, that was gonna drive me mad until I was reminded :)

[ClassicGamer-3DT]

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