car....BMW Z4....3d max4

[Radu3]

another car, but this time a BMW Z4 :D

i use same method like I made the audia2...

c&C welcome :halo:

[The Nexus]

:eek: very smooth, cant see any errors so far!

[sarN]

look svery nice!

[Dilli]

wow amazing :eek:

Looks very very clean and smooth :)

Could we see a wire, would be interesting to me ;)

[Aerics]

Can you explain me, how you can get on the car, after you put the smoth on it some hards edges?

[The Nexus]

Aerics its all to do with cuts if youve got | then an inwards extrusion it will be very curved, however if you have || it will be almost a refined beveled line :)

[Aerics]

Can you show me plz a low ploy wire pic.

[Radu3]

thakns guys

here is a wire with meshsmooth

[Radu3]

for Aerics

this is if i just make the "light place" with no details, and apply a meshsmooth

[Radu3]

now, i selected this edges

[Radu3]

and chamfer them with 0,1, apply a meshsmooth and it looks like this

[Radu3]

no, something is not good, the "light place" must be more roundest, for this you must to collapse some vertices like in image

[Radu3]

now for the result


hope i explain good, and you understand :p

[Aerics]

Thx a lot, i want to test it self.

[buddy]

very nice model! very smooth... --> wish i could do that lol so far my 3rd attempt at a car is looking kinda decent but still sucks :D

great job! :D

[TigerDog]

Looks Awsome! Very Clean, The finished model will be great cant wait to c it:) Im doing my second car at the moment. Im amazed how much i learn each time i do a model. I hope that one day my meshes look like yours. :cool:

Heres a link to my Concept car. (http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8755)

[Radu3]

thanks again :D

a update

what you think?

[Radu3]

another view

[Radu3]

a little update...i don't have time to model :(

[Yanik]

It's starting to look very good. I like how you did those sharp edges.
Good job!

[Radu3]

hi,
i repaired the back, and made some renders
what you think?
1.

[Radu3]

2.

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3.

[scott99]

well i was looking at the first page going down.... thinking to myself.... i should post [where are the updates] but then once i got to the bottom, i noticed it had 2 pages.... so of course, i went to the 2nd page and seen updates..... very nice :D cant wait to see it finished :D:D:D:D

[Pollo]

awesome modelling im jus having some doubts.

How do you do the edges they look so fine, is only one mesh or is everything detached can we see a wire??

[Radu3]

How do you do the edges they look so fine, is only one mesh or is everything detached can we see a wire??

every part of the car is made separatly, i began with a plan, that i extrude, extrude, extrude :D

i'll post a wire, but not now because i'm not in max :p
so, a little update,

ps. materials are just for test :)

[Radu3]

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[TheHenk]

Yay! That is great modelling.
Can´t see a single thing on the body that needs to be reworked.
Really awesome work!

One little thing:
I don´t like the rims that much though. Such a fine car deserves better. I´m not critizising your modelling of them, but the style overall! Go for them M3 split rims instead. That´s what a beauty like this would need!

Now go on, model model!

//TheHenk

[TigerDog]

Looks great, How did u get the reflection in the car but still have a black background? Ive been told there is an option in brazil that will let you do this but i cant find it.

[droopdog]

very nice model, and i agree with henk about the rims!
btw lil question, how did you made the bottom grill? coz you can watch thrue it, i need to make a thing like that for my car(thread: miata or mazda mx5)

[Radu3]

TigerDog , a use brazil for materials, rendering. The material->Brazil Advanced->Car paint->and in the Basic Surface Properties, in the Environment slot I put the HDR image

DroopDog , I made a box, I clone it for several times. I selected one box, add it a editmesh, and than I attach the others. After this I selected the vertex from up, and move them to the right(left). A mirrored the hole object and this is the result :)

ps. i don't know if this is the best method

[Radu3]

the rim should look like this:???:

[TigerDog]

Awsome, Thanks Radu thats exactly what i wanted to know. Thanks again.

[lilCara]

Radu, jantele trebuie sa arate ca-n imaginea pe care ai atasat-o. Am cautat imagini cu z4 si n-am gasit cu jante cum ai facut tu.

Per total arata super bine. Foarte bine facut!
Ai putea sa maresti view rate-ul la 40, ca se vede bucket size-ul la umbre.

[droopdog]

thnx,radu i'm gonna try to make it right away!
ill post a pic when i ahve finsihed it :d

[Radu3]

TigerDog , no problem :D
Halciu , jantele le-am facut de pe blueprint, cam asa ceva arata :p,
in rest mersi :D
DroopDog , you better post it :D:D

[droopdog]

that can take very long before i could post that,radu, coz my trial version of max is expired :(

[Heretic]

The trial version of max can be legally reused upto 3 times, by changing back the date. Change the month to a previous months, and use it again. After 3 trials expirations, it goes off.

Another tip - you could use a pare partition for a windows98 or xp, and use it just for the max, and when the version expires, you can format the hdd and install the OS and then max again. It is the ultimate hardcore method for users who really want to learn to use it, and there is nothing wrong with it. It would take a lot of time and make you mad though :)

[droopdog]

oh, but i'm gonna buy it, thats the best(but thnx heretic)

btw lets focus again on radu's bmw, its his thread =)

[Heretic]

Seems like i forgot the important part - critic. It happens to me a lot while visiting some of the wips. So far, very good work and i don't see anything wrong, but you obviously figured it out now :)

[Ganesh]

hey radu check this site
hope itll be a little use to u


http://www.kalach.easynet.be

[TheHenk]

Actually,
this is the wheel I was thinking of...
Can´t wait to see the update!

//TheHenk

[Radu3]

Ganesh , Thanks a lot man :D, there are some images that I can't find on the net, thanks again :)
TheHenk , mmm...I like both rims, I will take a while to decide :)

no updates yet, because I wanted to make it good as posible, I don't want to hurry like to the audia2 or fiat500 :)...

[Pavel]

Great work. Keep it up

[Ganesh]

ur welcome

any way have u checked my wip the same bmw z4
actually i started bfore u but i stopped sometime
and i did use the same technique as u but i admit that my model is no better than urs as im starter
cause i started this thing (3d) only three months ago

here my wip (work in pause) .....
http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9401
have a good laugh at it

and i know very little abt mats ....hope u can help me :)
cause we have something in common

[Radu3]

some updates....again :)

[Radu3]

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[Radu3]

and last one, for test :)

[droopdog]

woohoo finally a update:d
its looking really cool, nothing to crit
btw are the rims made by spline or polymodeling?( i was just wondering coz i have no idea how to make a rim like that, only rim i can make is one with 5 holes in it =)

DD

[Dire Wolf]

Very nice detail, really like the vent section, especially the bottom vent.

[Radu3]

thanks!

droopdog i made the forms(holes) with spline, then I add a Surface, a Edit Mesh, and start to model(extrude and moves vertex :))

post an update soon

[Elflord]

radu3>> You did a wonderful job, clean cut, no bump around. hope to see it complete.

can you show me how you light your scene? the lights seems so perfect. please help me, if you are using brazil i had that too. Btw is your material brazil mat?

[Radu3]

Elflord thanks. I use skylight, and yes I use brazil materials

no updates yet :(

[krazed]

How did u get such neat seams and edges on the car? did u chamfer?

[Radu3]

yes, a used chamfer

[Bravo]

Could you post a non-smoothed wire? It's an amazing car, I have nothing to crit. Awesome work :)

[Radu3]

after a long pause a worked a little on this car :)

Bravo i post a wire later (i'm not in max now)

[Radu3]

from back...

[droopdog]

really cool
can we see a close up of the lights? they look great

thnx

[Morzog]

That is freakin awesome. I really love your wheels.

[Attila]

foarte frumos, very nice i love it
it looks perfect

[SNap]

I'm romanian too, even though I moved to Belgium.

Hai Dinamo! Muie Steaua!

Very nice model so far.

[Radu3]

hehehe
thks guys :D

now i'l post a wire...

[Radu3]

...and a test render :)

[cgvideos]

any new updates, i've been following this thread for a while cos i love this car and the quality of radu's modelling

[Radu3]

thanks for your comments!
update
what you think?

[Radu3]

2

[Radu3]

materials just for fun :D

[Th3 ProphetMan]

WOW i can't wait to see this one finished. It's great

[mercutiojb]

Damn! I can't even believe how great this is. What's your secret for making the model so true-to-life? Do you have any 'special' techniques? Or advice for the rest of us mere mortals? :)

[Radu3]

here it's some mirrors :p
but i have to repair a lot in that area :p

[Th3 ProphetMan]

i'm afraid youre going to win place in my desktop... :D

[bega]

dont forget the wind-dryer or what it is called :cool:

[legato]

Originally posted by bega
dont forget the wind-dryer or what it is called :cool:

wind dryer?...hmmm

nice work radu...very nice work...nothing to comment on..
and im feel sorry u had to answer all those questions about getting hard edges with meshsmooth man....i guess ppl dont bother reading tutorials from start to end...

[Retaw]

droool :D
Its people like you that inspire me to want to do better. I look at some of my models and feel slack about how lazy or ignorent i've been. Cant wait to see this finished. Will you be doing an interior?

*EDIT: I think he means windscreen wipers*

[Radu3]

thanks for your replys guys!
Bega , i will not forget that...;)
Retaw , yes i will don the interior too...

but have somebody images with windscreen wipers? i didn't find on the net :(

[Chan]

Hey man, great car...

You wanted pictures, check this site out: http://www.kalach.easynet.be/index.html

[Chan]

Also, I found something that slipped past you...
I can't explain it, so take a look at the picture:

Like, the head... Damn it, I can't explain...

[Radu3]

Hi! again from a long pause :p
i model the interior.......theoretic, i just must to make the doors and the seats......just for the modelling :D
enjoy

[Radu3]

now the details :)

[loser]

those details are amazing, keep up the good work

[Mavo]

I realy like your model!!!!

[Mavo]

Can you send a wire of your complete model?

[VWporsche]

ugh... just when i thought mine was looking good... i see yours.

[Qubical]

Those details are really amazing. How many polys does that car have now? really has to be a load.

[Radu3]

Thanks guys!
Mavo yeah, no problem
Qubical well, it have 760.000 faces :) and not all objects are meshsmooth, like buttons and some stuff...:)

the wire unsmooth, this have 110.000......wow i didn't know... lol

[Radu3]

the interior :)

[Th3 ProphetMan]

lol that amazingly cool

[Mavo]

Woaw very impressive, thanks for the wire!

[rextr04]

excellent job!
keep it up!!

[jawahar]

thats great work.:)

[Ninto]

Where are the updates :) ?

[Radu3]

Ninto well here it is :D

1.

[Radu3]

-i know has been some time, from the last update :p, i'm very very slow! sorry, hope you understand me :D
-i will start to texture soon! and yeah a made the uvwrap too :p

-it's 80% like the real one :)
2.

[Ravens]

Omg very nice model :)

[TigerDog]

Nice Work! Id love to see some close up wires.

[figo]

smooth, clean, nice i wish I was as good as you man:grr:

[Xeen]

Hey! NICE CAR!

I was modelling a few cars these last few weeks. Im doing pretty good except for a few major problems!

1) I make a plane, and extrude etc. But when i finish, and render the car looks FLAT. like a piece of paper car. But yours seems to have depth, even before u made the interior... how do you do that?

2) What method of smoothing are u using? When i use smooth, the edges get deformed and stuff, even when i use the "close-edge" technique!

[Kujoe]

Very nice work man.very nice:D :cool:I just love looking at it..Thats a 5 star

[Mesk]

SUPER!!!! I try to make an BMW Z4 like yours, but I think I can go fishing...

[3Dway'OLife]

WOW!!!!!!!

Thats amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm really impressed, can you be my mentor!

Can't wait to see a textured and material render

[L10N]

hehe... lol...

first of all, let me just repeat what everyone else already said: very nice work...

anyway,

Xeen: see, when u make new polygons, you have to align them with EVERY blueprint... not only the top one.. mkay? theres nothing automatic about 3d :D

somebody else: u wanted to model a proper grill? heres how: http://3d.sibiul.ro/tut_fence01.php

[legato]

very very vverrrryy nice work...therefore i reward you with 5 dancing bananas!! :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance:

enjoy :D

[Radu3]

wow! i receveid so much replys....Thanks guys :D

Xeen you can find a tutorial, a very good one (i think), here on www.3dtotal.com, that with fiat 500, author karabo :D
TigerDog i put 2 wires for you :p

[Radu3]

2nd:

[Mystikos]

wow, I can't believe I've missed this thread on the forums.

Fantastic work, Radu. :cool:

[Kujoe]

SWEEEEEEEEET lookin wire man.How long has it been on the Z4.Do you have that car?;)

[3Dway'OLife]

Is that rendered in brazil?

Am I right in thinking you for the crease down the side you changed the edge weight rather than chamfering???

Might just be cause the wires are so thick

Also are the interior vents mapped or modeled?

[3dfroggy]

Cool car dude,

Best I have seen so far , could you please explain how you do that cool wire render look ? What settings ?!!!

Many thanks

3dfroggy

[Radu3]

Kujoe i worked since 25 julie :p
3Dway'OLife yes a render with brazil, and i chamfering don't crease ;)
3dfroggy i use edgemap, a free plugin that you can find online :)

now my problem :D
it's this good, or i should work more :p

yellow

[Radu3]

and gray

i suck at materials :(

[L10N]

hmm... I think your paint looks great, not the best, but good.. since your using brazil, why not use "brazil car paint"?
its really easy to use..

btw, I know u know, but just incase: the roof is supposed to be cloth not metal, right?

[bullethead]

Originally posted by Radu3
Kujoe i worked since 25 julie :p
3Dway'OLife yes a render with brazil, and i chamfering don't crease ;)
3dfroggy i use edgemap, a free plugin that you can find online :)

now my problem :D
it's this good, or i should work more :p

yellow Id really love to know how you got that yellow car paint. Like what settings did you use. Cause ive been trying and trying to get a realistic car paint and I just love how that yellow looks. If you could please tell me your secret that would be greatly appreciated;) And very very awesome model. Ill be trying to model a car again once im done with my russian isu-125 tank. Again excellent job mate.

[Radu3]

Hi

L10N there it's carpaint from brazil, and yes a now that roof it's cloth but i make tests for paint and .....:D
bullethead how i said before, it's carpaint from brazil :p

now i'm tring to do some test materials again, maybe i will post some in a few minutes, or maybe not.....lol :p

[SilentPartner]

now THAT'S what i'm talkin' 'bout!! nice

[nico3d]

radu !! I looove your Z4 !!

keep it comming !! I want to see it till the very end

[Kujoe]

Looks goood to me.but the top you have to work that ,thats all I see.Great work:)

[L10N]

Originally posted by Radu3
Hi

L10N there it's carpaint from brazil

hmm.. I dont get it :( if you have brazils car paint, then why did u say that you are bad with car paints? cuz u didnt make it yourself anyway :)

[Th3 ProphetMan]

wiicked...

dude you got some AWESOME skills!!

keep it up

[g69]

now this is somthing real massive!!!
love your modeling skillz....

hope one day ill do somthin of that sort! :D

Keep it up - btw... any more?

[Radu3]

Thanks everybody for positive comments :D

L10N i think that "carpaint" from brazil it's not the best way to make a realistic carpaint or maybe i don't know to use it very well. i think the last part it's the problem :p lol

here it's a little of texturing still more to do :)

[madm4tt]

Oh my GOD, amazing job Dude. How much time do U spent 4 this?

P.S.: sorry 4 my english.

Bye by Matt :roll:

[nalhcal]

It is looking nice, thought the BMW badge looks blurred to me.

[Radu3]

madm4tt i have been working on this car since 25 julie 2003 :D

i textured back lights:

[Kujoe]

Wow Dude thats sweeeet.You go man.Super work:D :D :D :cool:

[Radu3]

Thanks Kujoe :D

here's the side light :p

[L10N]

maybe brazils car paint the best, but clearly one of the best ways to texture a car...

I shall ask again, where di du get the bitmaps for the lights? :)

one more thing, the roof needs a bump map (I know that u havent finished texturing it:))

btw, I can't see any flaws so far :)

[Radu3]

...and the interior

this is the final interior

what do you think? i should change something?

[Radu3]

forgot to answer you L10N :p

the backlight texture it's made by me like on http://www.3dcar-gallery.com/

[L10N]

oh.. u used that tutorial, ok :)

the interior is very nice and detailed.. how about a closer render?

[Mystikos]

mmm nice. I was wondering, can anyone tell me what the 'i' is for in the BMW names, e.g 318i ?

[3Dway'OLife]

Your z4 is fantastic, possibly the best poly modelled car i've seen.

I started modelling the interior of my M3, its going ok but when i was modelling the inside edges of the doors I noticed how many creases and shapes there are, is the z4 the same???

Any tips or tutorials on interior modelling you've seen???

Mystikos - the "i" means injection i think

[Pavel]

Amazing interior !!! :) Great work

[Radu3]

Hi again!

here it is some renders :)

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4.

[Mystikos]

nice colour, model and EVERYTHING (especially the interior :P) but the rims are a little... dull? what should they look like? chrome? brushed metal...?

[g69]

simply amazing!!
love your modeling skills... i wish i develop em as good as yours! :D

keep it up!

[nico3d]

wow, you have definitely improved it with this update.
I would work a bit more on the paint texture though...

[L10N]

cool.. very cool... sry, its too cool :D

could u post a page with your other works?

and tutorials that helped u make this car (not just this car, every car uve made)

[Adeel]

Hi there.
You have got amazing modeling skills.
i really like the way you paid attention to details.
The sharp seams are absolutly perfect.
This is probably one of the best models that i've seen.
The way you've modeled this car is totally an inspiration for me.
Great Job!
Would love to see more of your work!

Take care
and best of luck!
adeel

[Th3 ProphetMan]

Me loves Z4.

Me loves your Z4

:eek: :)

really, the cars look impressive...

what will you make with it, will you make a video? tutorials? wallpapers? ...give it away? :D

i cant wait to see the final product :)

[g69]

RADU. this is sumthin wicked!
simply excellent... love the yellow paint job :)
keep it up!

post us some more man! :D

[sergage]

Awesome!!! :o Only don't see the reflected buildings around :( - I'm kiidding that's nice HDRI :xyz: ! Good job!

[L10N]

oh yes.. I need advice, How do u make the corners that sharp??

I know that u probably use chamfer, but when I use it, I apply the smalles chamfer that Max alows me to make (about 0,01 units) but it just aint enough :( the edge still looks rounded.. any advice on that?

[Spawn4ever]

Unbelievable, I love it. I loved it so much that I had to make my own wallpaper for my new notebook.

Hope you don’t mind me posting this on your own thread, but I was just awed over it.

[Ninto]

Originally posted by Spawn4ever
Unbelievable, I love it. I loved it so much that I had to make my own wallpaper for my new notebook.

Hope you don’t mind me posting this on your own thread, but I was just awed over it.

How in the world dit you get that to happen :p (and the wallpaper looks very good to me :cool: )



Radu3.
It's über beautifull :D Very nice sharp seams, great paint and materials, just wonderfull :halo:

[claWda]

lol it takes some skill to write don't like that :p

love the car, absolutely beautiful, not a big fan of that ble color though

[Spawn4ever]

I have no idea how it came out like that, but i'm leaving it that way, it looks kwel.

Thanks for the feedback though.

[L10N]

Spawn4ever u dont have a 1024x768, do u?

[nico3d]

Radu, your car looks amazing..
I'm beginning the same car now and I have a few doubts.

what technique did you use to model the rims?

and where did you get references for modelling the interior.?

[mengy]

I really love this car...

[nico3d]

radu apart from what I asked you above.
Could post a wireframe of the back of the car? because I"m having trouble modelling it.... :(

[Radu3]

Wow! So many replies and i didn't aswered to you. Sorry :( :)



L10N-Thanks man! :D go here and write "find by user" ->Radu3 and look every thread started by me :D
-I will explain how to make sharp edges in other post. ok? :D

Spawn4ever Hey, that's a nice wallpaper, how you said, kewl :p


nico3d -the best way to model rims it's spline mode, and after you made the primary form for this you go with editmeh
-i can't remember the link, but you can find it on page 5 or 6.
-and here it is the back, if you want a close one, just tell me :)
-I was to forget, good luck with your z4! :)

now my question,

Did you put your progress on threedy, Nico?


here (http://forums.3dtotal.com/search.php?)

[nico3d]

wow, thanks a lot radu !!
that image is excellent for me to study your wireframes. I'm having lots of triangles and they are not the best...

could you post another one of the back but this time not from above but focusing on the lower part where the exhausting pipes are?

I will start a WIP soon....I'd like to have more work done first....

[nico3d]

ohh and a close up from the inside of the headlights?? is that possible? I can't find a good reference for them and I don't know how they exactly are inside....

[Radu3]

how to make sharp edges for L10N

[Radu3]

this is good? :p

[nico3d]

Excellent Radu !! you are the best ! :dance:

thanks a lot for your patience !!

[sarN]

This is an impeccable model, awesome work my friend. I hope you could somehow composite it or build a scene for it. Do you have a career in doing this?

[L10N]

Thanx a lot, works great :)

[Kujoe]

SUPER COOL :D :D :cool:

[Radu3]

Hi!

After a long pause. I post this to say to ya that I made my website, not very beutiful, but i like it :)

it is on signature

[Retaw]

You've done a fantastic job on the car! You're website is off to a decent start. The text is occasionaly hard to read (my moniter is dark so the black text on brown background gets a bit hard to read) and you need to reword a few things, like when i look at some of your pics, the information u've written to go with them refers to the pictures as bein above instead of below where they actualy are. Apart from that, keep goin at it! doin much beta then i was at 17. There seams to be an awful lot of code for each page tho. Anyway, congrats on the launch of your site :D
Keep up the good work.