Material Tests

[sarN]

Hey guys, sudden urge to learn how to make some cool shaders or materials lol
heres some of the things i liked that i came up with
the smallest one is my attempt at ttrying the translucency shader =/
tryin to learn more things in max rather than just modelling
feel free to post some of your materials here too

[insect]

Hey, some of these look really nice. :)

Though I have no idea of where the max's translucency shader might be applied. It never works the way it should... :dunno:

Here are a couple of mine:

http://members.lycos.co.uk/insect666/spikything_006.jpghttp://members.lycos.co.uk/insect666/spikything_002.jpg

http://members.lycos.co.uk/insect666/spikything_illustr_001.jpghttp://members.lycos.co.uk/insect666/spikything_illustr_003.jpg

Almost forgot to add: max's default scanline renderer and no extra plugins/scripts...

Sounds like this thread should be pretty fun if more people join in. :)

[sarN]

those are some freaky models insect~! lol
the material on them looks.... i dono i cant really explain it haha
yes, i think this thread would be pretty fun if more people joined in :D

[Jojomondag]

too bad this thread is posted in work in progress then ; (

[Emperor]

Shaders! Shaders, all around :D!

[Emperor]

well it should be :D! so go post GO! Here is an other one of mine :D! All custom made. No fancy buisness. I used Raytrace shader as base on all.

[sarN]

lol the first one looks like a pokeball :D
i love the second one too :D
keep em comin guys!
EDIT
oops im slowwwww
lol your new ones look like some kinda candy :D

[Emperor]

Yep..YUMMY SPEHERES!!!

[Yanik]

What if we put all the shaders shown in this thread in a 3dstudio matlib file, like visualboo did in cgtalk.

This way some may learn how to create nice materials.

Just a idea.

[Emperor]

Thats a great idea. We could take all the saders we make here like u said and put in a matlib like u said and then we maybe could get it up under free stuff on the 3dtotal website :D! That way ppl can have a custom made library. It would be fun to see stuff like that. Maybe someone has brazil too so they make brazil specific shaders. Maybe other software then Max....

THERES NO EEEND TO THE POSSIBILITIES!!!

[sarN]

i think its a good idea yanik :D
still trying to find something cool lookin... lol

[Aurorae]

Just doing some brazil shader test, ill post later when its finished rendering

[PyrOmonkey]

hehe, cool thread, here's my contribution, more to come soon

[sarN]

whoaaaa love that pyromonkey!
i think i made something sorta neat... lol ill post in a minute

[sarN]

heres the first time i tried using DOF
sphere inside a sphere, isnt that original? :D
i thought it looked sorta kool lol

[Radarhead]

Chipped paint over subsurface scattering.

[Aurorae]

Nice :)

Just some brazil shaders.

Ill post some more interesting ones later.

[sarN]

nice guys :D
radar, thats some psychadelic paint lol!
what does subsurface scattering mean?
aurorae, i like the clear one the best but theyre all cool :D

[Radarhead]

Sarn: Subsurface scattering simulates translucent materials like wax, skin, etc. It's light entering an object and scattering once inside. This one shows the effect better.

[sarN]

ohhhh thanks lol
how do you make that sort of material in max? i ask this since most of your renders are with brazil
the pink one does show it better :D

[Radarhead]

You can get something similar using falloff maps for the self illumination but with Max it never looks as convincing.
This one you can get with Max mats, using falloffs and a Blend material.

[sarN]

ok radarhead thats it
youve mastered modelling
youve mastered materials
you can rig and morph target like theres no tomorrow (havent seen any of your animations though lol)
WHAT CAN YOU NOT DO
and how long have you been into 3d?

[Radarhead]

Thanks Sarn. I've been 3D'ing for a year and a half. I've put my alien character on hold for now due to the rig or wiring corrupting the files. I may have to re-rig the alien.

[chaos_seed]

That pink shader truly is nice how do you make it using brazil???
I'm working on character 'n I 'd love to give him some nice skin !!!

[Radarhead]

It's Brazil Wax. Be mindful that due to the calculations involved, render times will be very high. For skin, I fake luminosity with painted maps and falloffs.

[Daniel]

omg Radar, you've been in 3D only for a year an a half? I'm at a loss for words, I've been for about a year and a half too and you've left me back in your dust, lol

[sarN]

a year and a.... OH! i meant how much time did you spend in your FIRST lifetime
:D
thats F%#&^ing amazing...
ive been doin 3d since May lol

[daagom]

i too am at a loss of words.... I've been tinkering with 3d for about 4 or 5 years now.... but then..... nothing serious... i have just now started focusing on it.... besides.. its my major...

[Radarhead]

Ok, ok. Enough of the ego-stroking. Back to cool materials!

[sarN]

yes~ im gonna try and make a material scene lol
lotsa abstracts will appear :D

[sarN]

well maybe later, lol not in the mood right now anymore :D
tried to make max wax lol

[sarN]

dont say youre not good at it!
all you basically do is put a bunch of random maps in a bunch of random slots and render it!
thats what i do at least... :D

[RickStefani]

Looks cool. Looks like you are getting a hang of the textures. Edd is the master and you are not the aprentice.

[Dragot]

I love those materials.
My recent attempt at real Sub Surface Illumination And Realistic skin shader (NO TEXTURES ADDED JUST A SHADER) wonder how it would look with good maps applied now(retorical question)hmmmm
What do you all think of the look?:???:

[Dragot]

I Think the above image posted tooooo Bright
hear is another.:roll:

[rip|15]

i think this thread is great!
but explain huw did you done all this shaders:)

[Aurorae]

Seriously when this thread grows, I would be more tha happy to compile all these, owner permitting of course. I've got brazil so I'd like to do those as well.
Ive got some more shaders, just doing loads of renders of them

Anyone who wants to send me the shaders send them to andrew.charlton@ntlwolrld.com

[LittleJohn]

Great thread...Here`s two of mine...Car paint and sub-surface scattering (with default max shader and scanline)...

[LittleJohn]

...

[Dragot]

Thats it:grr: Im getting Max and Brazil to texture from now on

[chaos_seed]

WOW amayzing this subscaterring material looks "wet" you know a bit like butter lol could anyone explain those material I don't know waht they are and how you make them I'd love to have a try ! !
PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ! ! !:o

[rip|15]

wow!
little john can you upload this metirial
or show exactly how did you done it?

[Solidarity]

LittleJohns subscattering looks like Wax if you ask me, cool. :D
And the other one you posted looks amazing. :) *no sarcasm, really*

[Emperor]

COOOOLZ!!!

I think we should like all upload our maxfiles containg these materials so ppl can dload them and look at them. A file can't be that big if its no geometry and u zip it can it?

[Dire Wolf]

Even posting the material tree along with you material would be very helpfull. Granted you wouldnt get all the settings but it would be a starting point for creating your own material.

[Radarhead]

LittleJohn: When did Max start supporting Subsurface scattering?

[chaos_seed]

yeah we could do this I don't know maybe we could open an ftp with the material in it .Qick and not complicated to do Id'really love to check out some materials!!! mine ar ne that great but I'll try to put some...

[Torlok2002]

paint and glass... ive wokred on them for q while, standard scanline...

[LittleJohn]

Radarhead...3dsmax doesnt supports realife sub-surface scattering...By there are some ways to fake it...The best by far is Grant Adam`s technique. Its kinda tricky thought...

http://members.optushome.com.au/ghra/tutorials/tutoriaOne.htm

You can get similar results (and better in some cases)with more advanced renderers (brazil, final render). And rendering times are amazingly fast...The picture i posted before, was rendered in about 15 seconds!!!

[LittleJohn]

http://members.optushome.com.au/ghra/

That works...

[Radarhead]

Cool. That's a lot of work but it's a nice fake!

I was going to post the Mat Tree for this one but my Max keeps locking up my system. Might be time for a re-install.

Lava rock. This is easy to get with Max procedurals.

[RickStefani]

Anyone know if Maya 4 can do sub-surface scatter?

[sarN]

very nice everyone!!
i love these materials :D
compiling them all we be pretty damn cool too
love the lava rock radar, put it on a cylinder shaped thing and you could make a great pizza out of it too :D
keep em comin guys!

EDIT
Radarhead, what default materials does brazil come with? I was thinking of getting it as long as its not too much money... :D

[sakuya]

Originally posted by Radarhead
Lava rock. This is easy to get with Max procedurals.
Also makes a very convincing meat sauce.:)

[Torlok2002]

I think we need a lot of realistic metal textures.


I seem to suck at any metal texture.....

[Dragot]

Well the problems i have with Mental Ray isn't the programs fault it's my fault for not knowing how to use it properly, but any way hear is something that excited me when i started really looking at MentalRay:D

[Radarhead]

Dragot: Read the instruction book that came with Mental Ray. ;)

Corroded copper. Max procederals.

[Dragot]

Sorry to those that could see the crappy format i don't know what happened there:roll:

[Dragot]

Ware do i get the instructions since for some reason alias wavefronts MentalRay for maya didn't come with it since it's freeware :???: :???: :???:

[Dragot]

The only thing i can find is a DVD TRAINING video that costs 140$
im not spending that much for basic knowlede on a program
i already have

[Radarhead]

That sucks. Maybe there are some tuts on the net.

[Dragot]

I have looked on the net for months and there is nothing on how to use the (lights or materials) just how to use
GI and Final Gathering over and over and ooover again:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Well........you get the idea.


If ANYONE Can FIND MENTALRAY MANUALS ON THE NET FOR FREE I WOULD MUCH APPRECIATE IT:!!!:
thank you

[TyKeiL]

hey radar head you could do with some more layers in those corroded metal materials

with only the two different mats for the blend you are rather limited.

still lookes awesome,, just too "photoshoped" if you understand the inflection

[Aurorae]

Here we go :)

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/aurorae/Matreials/Single%20chromes%20ball.jpg

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/aurorae/Matreials/Chromed%20cell%205.jpg

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/aurorae/Matreials/Glow%20flour.jpg
This was the shader glow worm, that comes with brazil. If you turn on indirect lighting it emits this flourescent glow :)
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/aurorae/Matreials/Glow%20balls.jpg
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/aurorae/Matreials/Metal%20Balls.jpg
Standard chrome lit with HDRI (maps kinda busted, I should have done a better one)
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/aurorae/Matreials/Mix.jpg
SSS Blend material with Indirect illumination and caustics


Ill gladly compile all of the the materials, including the brazil ones.
So if you want, just email me the max scene at andrew.charlton@ntlworld.com
It would be great if we could have all these in a scene

[TheHenk]

What the heck is that first material you have there aurorae!?
Looks like fried brain crossed with barbecued sweetcorn... Disgusting! Yet soooo cool...

Love this thread by the way... You´re all so extremely talented at this stuff! Can´t wait until the day I´m making equally interesting materials myself! 20 years from now or so...

Anyway!
Go on! Stun me with your magic!

//TheHenk

[Zergling]

It'd be great if someone would make a material library. All us noobs could download it and study from the masters!!

Yeah...

Is there a free trial version of Brazil? or do ya have to pay for it to play with it? I'm too lazy to look.

[Aerics]

Really nice thread. But plz show, explain or uppload the mats. So all the noobs can learn and understand, how you can make something like this.

[Radarhead]

Is this going to be a learning thread or a show-off thread? I'm assuming it's for learning. I'm trying to limit myself to Max textures since many people don't have Brazil or other plug-ins.

Aerics: Ask the author of the material you like for the info on it.

Zergling: If you're too lazy to look, then I'm too lazy to tell you. LOL! J/K.



Gold nugget: Max Standard.

[sarN]

great materials guys... i would be happy to send my max file to someone so they can compile it, ill try and make some more too :D
keep em comin!

[sarN]

i dono... i thought this one kinda looked like rubber lol

[Aurorae]

I will compile all material files

Ive said it twice in this thread, but on one has taken any notice :p

Anybody who wants any of there material files compiled into one big one (brazil, or max standard) then please email them to me at
andrew.charlton@ntlworld.com

I will gladly compile any materials you send me, as well as put them all in one big scene.

[rubberduck]

This is LightWave materials, I hope that's ok to post in this thread
Anyway here's my contribution:D

[neo_mosher_zion]

the blue transparant horse looks asome how'd ya make it

[Zergling]

Radarhead wants to send all his materials.

Yes he does...

Anyway, I don't understand the schematic for the gold nugget, radar... i guess i don't hang out in the material browser enough, lol. There seem to be 3 materials in the diagram, all composite. there's the 2 standard mats., and a mask material. how does that work?

[Radarhead]

Zergling: It's a blend material. Two materials separated by a mask. I also use the modified mask as the bump map for the materials. That way the dull orange-ish material shows up in the depressions. The Max help file explains blend material in more detail.

Here's how the gold nugget looks in a render. (I used to prospect for gold when I lived in California.) :)

[sarN]

WHo would trade a quarter for 2 big gold nuggets? :D
EDIT
errrr, 2 gold nuggets for a quarter lol

[RickStefani]

Must have lived in the bay area. great gold. Seems like the depression areas with the more colorful gold should be a bit more surface to area ratio than it is.

[Radarhead]

Anyone who's found placer gold knows that no two pieces are alike. The Bay Area has virtually no gold. Most of the gold is located in the Sierra Nevada range. ('49'er Gold Rush started there.) The roughness of alluvial gold depends on how far it's traveled from it's sourse, being ground and pounded by sand and rock.

Enough of the gold lesson! LOL!

Anyone can find pictures of placer gold on the net for comparison.

[Aurorae]

How do you do all those little ones?

[RickStefani]

Yes, but I just figured if you were a cop you were probably from the bay area. Placerville is a small town and so is abourn , Rough and ready or Nevada city. I know gold is usually deposited in a veine around quartz because it is usually deposited around the same time that the flow of fluid that creates quartz. You usually find Gold in the rivers have been weathered away from the quartz vein. Here is a picture of one of the first ones found that was later made into a pendent. It has the quarts piece still on the bottom.

[Radarhead]

Nice specimen. It obviously didn't travel from form the vein. I lived in the Valley and hour east of S.F. An hour away from the ocean and snow skiing! :)

Aurorae: for the small pieces, I used a technique I came up with when I was making ashes for an ashtray. I won't give away the entire process but I can give a big hint: Meshbomb! I've never seen it used as a modeling technique but hey... whatever works!

Here's what I used it for when I came up with it.

[sarN]

wow... radarhead did you ever use tutorials? lol it seems that you do EVERYTHING yourself, and then it turns out awesome
those ashes look real

[Jared]

This looks like good fun. I think I'll join in.
This is a kind of marble texture that i did with no idea how i did it.
It may looks simple, but it's pretty much things i had to press to make it looks like that.

[Jared]

Another thing i did for fun. I just slapped some thing in here and there. Very simple texture but it has a nice effect, don't you think?

[sarN]

nice jared, i love the marble, i am still trying to find out a way to make like a clear marble hehe... i know someone already has it tho lol

[Jared]

Wow, thanks sarn.

[Dire Wolf]

Here is my addition.

EDIT: The red teapot uses the same material just the color falloff was changed.

[Jazzy]

The gold you use for your gold skull and the one you use for the gold nugget, are they achieved in pretty much the same way ? Aside from the bumpiness and so on.

Also, what exactly does the "Output" material do ? Does it just add one of those output graph things ?? I'm not too sure. Can anyone explain it a bit further ?

Thanks in advance :D

[Radarhead]

Jazzy: It's a completely different mat than the one I used for the gold skull. The skull uses tinted chrome. The nuggets are Standard Max mats. I had to use the output in the mask to get the dull gold in the dents to stand out more.

Someone asked for a marble? Here it is. I had to use Brazil mats because Max would have taken forever to render this. Max don't like glass! LOL!

P.S. The color goes all the way through the marble. Not on the surface. Can anyone guess how I did it. I bet RickS knows.

[scott99]

particles?

[Radarhead]

Nope: I used particles for the bubbles, though.

[RickStefani]

I would guess volume fog in a spherical gismo but I am not sure. Cool effect though.

[Radarhead]

Strike 2!! LOL!

[Emperor]

Brazil Glass material for the marble itself then geometry of different shapes and colourse inside the sphere that gets refracted n stuff. U allready said particles fot them bubbles so i won't say that :D! Anything close? Thats how I'd do it...And yes...Max don't like Glass :D

I think u got two spheres. One for glass, one for the colors with procedurals don't you. The caustics kind of suggest that :D

[scott99]

*telports into radar's mind*

i see.... i see....... oh man, dont have a password... guess i cant get in.... soooooo i guess different meshes in the ball?

[Incitatus]

yeah noised up planes or some other mesh, with some sexy translucency shaders. Perhaps using smoke/swirl procedurals.

Loved the gold nuggets, but perhaps make the colors a bit warmer.

[RickStefani]

Does it have to do with sub-surface light scatter. I can not do it in stock maya. I hate you maxxers, J/K

[Incitatus]

Originally posted by LittleJohn
Great thread...Here`s two of mine...Car paint and sub-surface scattering (with default max shader and scanline)...

Could you post this max file pls? the SSS one

[Radarhead]

Good guesses guys. Yes, there are 2 noisy spheres inside of the glass sphere. I used some procedurals for the tint on the internal spheres. Using absorption (unique to Brazil, I think) i got the colored shadows of the swirls.

Incitatus: LittleJohns material is a script that you can DL. I think he has a link for it a few pages back. It's not really a material but it is a cool fake.

[sarN]

oOOOOooooo radars got it :D:D:D
heres my shinyyyyy donut! lol

[scott99]

i know it isnt much but have you ever seen one of the balls that is covered in like crystals? well here it is

[sarN]

hmm, i tried using the HDRI tutorial... but for some reason my max cant import HDR files... is there something that i need for it? or any other file format i can import it as?

[Radarhead]

Sarn: You need the plugin from Splutterfish.

Scott99: Most of those maps you have in the mat tree are doing nothing. Brazil's test mat has Max Raytrace settings that don't work like fog, flourescence.

[Torlok2002]

so are we gonna compile these??


I forget who said they would do it, but i think in order to post a pic you must also contribute and upload you texture. No matter what, good, bad, and slow....Yuo can never have too many textures!

[scott99]

Originally posted by Radarhead
Sarn: You need the plugin from Splutterfish.

Scott99: Most of those maps you have in the mat tree are doing nothing. Brazil's test mat has Max Raytrace settings that don't work like fog, flourescence.

the smoke may not work but the others do.... because i dont have anything in the background.... on flouresent and stuff, i have the hdri's.... as you can see

[Aurorae]

Gah.

I've said 3 times that whoever wants to compile any material should send them to my email address, I'll compile the max files and we could have one huge material library.

Send your mats to andrew.charlton@ntlworld.com

Or, isnt anyone actually interested in doing so?

[Incitatus]

I'll make few today and send them if they turn out nice

[neo_mosher_zion]

i wouldnt mind have some of these textures acutally i would really enjoy it but willl a maya, brazil, (so on) texture work in 3dmax or vise versa
another question would be how many of you use 3Dmax

[Emperor]

I think the majority here are maxers (this thread specific I mean) myself included. Brazil materials won't work in max unless u got brazil r/s for it. I don't think Maya mats work with max and vice versa.

[Aurorae]

Of course, max materials will work with brazil.

I have brazil, so you can email me the brazils mats as well (cough radarhead :p) j/k

Thats if anyone wants to.

[chaos_seed]

here you go after following this thread I'm giving a little contribution not much but well I'm trying I'll try to have a really good one for tomorow ! ! !

[Radarhead]

I'm just trying to come up with some mats that will be useful to others. I can make exotic mats but if no one can use them then it defeats the purpose. Anyone have a material that they are having a problem making?

[RickStefani]

semi wet painted Metal with water beads and drip marks, water spots and dust which has not been washed off yet. Haha. Have not tryed it yet but I would love to see what you come up with.

[Radarhead]

LOL Rick. That sounds like the perfect material for let's say... and off-road vehicle! :) That's a material that will need to be painted with some masks for reflectivity, bump, etc. I just know you'll come up with something cool. ;)

[RickStefani]

I am thinking anout actually modeling some of the water beads to get the refraction.

[Brin]

Hi Guys Great thread.

love the nuggets RH ;)

here is my contribution, although I think a car paint material may be redundant in this forum, I havnt seen a single car modeled that needed material ;)

I found this one a few months ago, waddaya think?


Brin

[RickStefani]

By the way. The little nuggets, did that have to do with a deflector and gravity did it?

[Radarhead]

The little nuggets were made with a meshbomb. It explodes the mesh into pieces with a min and max setting for the size. I turned gravity off and played with the settings so that they stayed on plane and spread out nicely. I collapsed the modifier stack and made the polys solid and smoothed them a bit. Rick, you use Maya right? Maybe there is a space warp or something that will do the same thing.

Brin: Looks like the paint you see on some boat hulls. BIG metal flakes.

[RickStefani]

Thanks. I have another one for you. Snow cover rocky mountain. Haha. I will have you do the texturing for me.

[Radarhead]

Can anyone use this corroding copper mat? Max Standard and render.

[sarN]

nice radar :D
you should model a statue of liberty and throw it on there :)
that would probably take you like... hmm.. 5 minutes :P

[Radarhead]

Not a difficult set of mats but I thought they looked cool. Brazil.

[sarN]

oOOOoooOOo
SHINY ! :D
nice man, i like the pearl one the best, it looks very realistic IMO

[Radarhead]

Thanks sarN. This one might be useful too. All Max.

[RickStefani]

Cool gems. nice textures. I got one for you and this time it is not a joke. The metal from this picture from T3.

[Radarhead]

Idealy, one would want to paint maps for the filter color on the chrome but here's a procedural version. I added a few scratches.

[Dire Wolf]

Is that brazil chrome with smoke/noise in the filter map slot, radarhead?

Also is that a HDRI map in the reflection or just a bitmap?

[Radarhead]

Yup. Brazil chrome with an adjusted noise for the filter. The image is an adjusted HDRI. I make low dynamic range copies of my HDRI's so there is no output adjustment. I use these for chrome. Otherwise the sky would appear to be white due to the output required for HDRI's. I would use the regular HDRI for any non-chrome mats.

[sarN]

no idea what this is supposed to be, jsut thought it looked cool lol

[mastern00b]

Figured I would jump in here.. :)

Was playing around with materials and stumbled across this. I think it looks pretty cool.. :)

http://www.rserv.com/images/mat1.jpg

[primal]

amazing...looks exactly like neil blevin's organic texture....with the color swatches changed....but thats just what i can see from the image

if u made this on your own, A+ for technique cause this mat has ALOT of procedural mapping

[mastern00b]

Yes, I did do it 100% on my own. I was just playing with putting a mix in the diffuse slot with several sub mix's from there. Put the same material in the bump slot... and poof.. :) There really was no technique because as my name implies, I am a noobie.. :).

-Cody

[B.R.Rajeev]

Well here's mine.... hope to make some more :)




compression sucks :(

[Dire Wolf]

Radarhead - Where did you get that HDRI map you used in the terminator teapots? A map like that would look good on a Porsche I think. :)

[Radarhead]

DW: I can't remember but I got it off the net somewhere. Maybe someone recognizes them and can tell you.

[scott99]

all these materials are awesome..... i see a whole lot that i wouldnt mind know how to make :)

[Radarhead]

I think I'll place many of the ones I've made for this thread and place them in a Max file for download. When it's complete, I'll post it on my website.

[scott99]

cant wait radar :D

and i think radarhead got that hdri for the terminator chrome from

http://www.cs.kuleuven.ac.be/cwis/research/graphics/PICS/envmaps/

and here is a good one with lots of maps hdri.3dweave.com/library/

[Emperor]

I FEEL SO BEHIND: Gotta experiment more. For now, this is what I use as a basic skin shader.

[Emperor]

Skin shader in use.

[Radarhead]

This one just looked a bit nasty. There's an ointment that will clear that right up.

[Emperor]

LMAO...THAT POT HAS GOT ACNE!!!!

EEEEEEEEEW:D

[Dragot]

More subsurface scattering work

[Pavel]

Very nice materials ... :)

I need some help. I want to make leather material for car seats.
Any tips will be apriciated.

Thanks

[Shadef]

Hi all !!
For my first post, here is my contribution...


http://shadef.free.fr/test2.jpg

[scott99]

difusion is cool... i just now put it on my material im rendering... made it a wicked shape... although, since its clear, its taking 50 years to render lol

[LIMBAUL_ABIGGOR]

any one know a good skin shader:)

[scott99]

i think there was a material setting for a skin shader on one of the earlier post :)

[LIMBAUL_ABIGGOR]

cool i was looking for one for softimage xsi, i seen one on the net but now i cant find it so i cant down load it any one seen this:cool:

[Aerics]

Can someone show me, how i make a realistic whater mat?

[neo_mosher_zion]

can someone show how to make a cool rusty bumped mat.

[LittleJohn]

Corroded iron,,,max procedurals...

[Corth]

Gone for a week and this is what I miss? dammit! oh well, lots of eye candy anyway :) Seeing some of this stuff made me want to go in max and play with materials to get some weird looking thing, and this is what I got:

http://www.corth.com/pics/texturetest.jpg

It's just an inverted sphere with some extruded poly's. Most of the mat's are falloff's, but the gloss is a falloff with a noise map. I wanted to post something, sorry it's not anything life like. :dunno:

[Dire Wolf]

I wouldnt mind seeing an anodized aluminum material.

[Brin]

I wouldnt mind seeing a battleship grey material that one might find on a wwII warship, say like the Bismarck? hehe

I did have a good lipstick material around here somewhere, trying to dig it out now :)

[tedledz]

What about this...

[whitewolf2759]

here's my contribution. Very simple mats, but some cool effects.

[tedledz]

Well maybe these to?

[Aerics]

Nobody can help me how i make a realistic water :/.

[scott99]

well, i dont know materials for it but there is a plugin called SeaScape that creates realistic water... i liked it :) although i dont have it anymore since my computer was fdisked :(

[Zergling]

Man, this topic sure got away from me :O

Just goes to show what happens when you move your computer for a few days.

Anyone posted all thier materials so far? it would be useful if you posted a max file with a cool material... That goes for you too Radar... hehehe

[Brin]

Aerics: fir water get the basics from here

Water Tutorial (http://www.thaneweb.com/teensworld/tutorials/tutorials_3dmax_step1.htm)

Then play around with the settings and see what you can get.

HTH.

Brin

[Zergling]

Radar, juat a guess (i been trying to figure out how you got the sprinkling of gold peices). You made a sphere, put a bomb in it, and blew it up, then rendered the end result... Well, thats all i can figure out, but that would just leave little chips...

Then there's the metapaticle system, and a deflector plane on the same level as the floor... you could just spray metaparticles into the air, then render one point, i guess...

Maybe i should play in 3ds some more. Not owning 3d studio sucks... Not having money sucks worse =\

Anyhoo, how close am i?

[KingSomething]

well i know absolutly nothing about making my own materials but i had a mess around and came up with this i used only standard max stuffand the 3d total texture CD's and a lot of random button pressing (I think it kinda looks like an intestigne :D ) is there any tutorials about making some of the cool stuff you ppl have made? or could you give some hints :D or ideas what the different things mean and their effects like shell whatever etc??? i only usually use blend, raytrace, multi sub object

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/matty.sibley/mattest.jpg

Direct link (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/matty.sibley/mattest.jpg)

[Zergling]

Insect666 and littlejohn, in your first images, how did you get the "glow" around the reflected light part of the model thing?

Is that in compositing, or the lighting settings, or whatever?

[sarN]

thought this looked kinda cool... hehe

[novoAlias]

some cool materials here... there is one thing i would like to know tho is how to make water that gets less transparent as it gets 'deeper' like one of thos neutrino pools or some kind of radioactive water of the light blue variety :p ill add a material maybe wen i get back on the other computer

[Aurorae]

Cool Sarn!

It looks like a bowling ball texture!

[FrodoBaggins]

use a radial gradient on the transparency slot...

[Torlok2002]

Kinda looks liek a light rust, like on a ball bearing , or the rust on a part if you black oxide them wrong

[Raf]

Hi. A while ago i messed around with anisotropic shaders and got this CD and disc brake materials. Too bad anisotropic doesnt have more options.

[Jared]

Wow, i'd love to make a cd material like that raf.
May I ask how you did it?

[beowulf]

me too, does it change color at different angles like a real cd does?

[Dire Wolf]

I would love to get my hands on that rotor material and the carbon fiber material, Raf.

[LoGiY]

using cinema 4D

just messing around looks good i think

http://users.pandora.be/logiy/test.jpg

[mastern00b]

I am currently working on making my own materials. Unwrapping the object, painting on the 'skin' with photoshop then applying it to the object. Here is one such example..

http://www.rserv.com/images/mat5.jpg

The only way I can think of to make that Carbon Fiber material would be via photoshop(or another image editing program). I don't want to step on Raf's toes and post carbon fiber again, but PM me and I can hook ya up. :)

-Cody

[nick74]

a render made in maya:

[nick74]

another one:

[droopdog]

every1 post such cool materials, i learned alot in this threat, so i tryed to make something too,
its almost one of my first times i rendered something

DD

[droopdog]

i think this looks pretty cool:

[Raf]

About my CD material.

You should model the plastic part of cd as it is in real life. Apply some sort of transparent mat with IOR on it. And on the inside reflective layer apply the mat from picture below.

beowulf : yes it does change color at different angles but not as a real cd, it fakes it pretty good though.

Dire Wolf : im not sure what do you think by rotor material. If it's disc brake then it is same as cd but without spec. color map, and carbon fibre has only simple map and low reflection.

[TheHenk]

Ok,
this thread is just soo cool!

Gee, I can´t really figure out this Brazil sss material. I´ve been trying to achieve a waxcandle-like material for some time now and haven´t gotten it right yet. I´ve looked at the featus-thingy tutorial but (you can call me stupid) I still can´t figure it out! My objects don´t get that semi-see-thru feeling. It just gets a kinda strange glowish surface! Is there anyone who can help, explain what I´m doing wrong!? It´s so frustrating being an idiot! ;)

Maybe it´s the lighting setup???

I´ll submit a sample image too...

//TheHenk

[neo_mosher_zion]

i thought i would contribute to the fray
its nothing much but i thought it looked cool

[Radarhead]

TheHenk: You have to adjust the depth of the sub-surface scattering until it starts showing the SSS. It's in the wax material parameters.

[neo_mosher_zion]

droopdog

how did you make the crome reflection texture?
it can't just be a ratrace is it??

[Aurorae]

not much really

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/aurorae/not%20much.jpg

[droopdog]

Originally posted by neo_mosher_zion
droopdog

how did you make the crome reflection texture?
it can't just be a ratrace is it??

no, i used a standard material, with multi layer, and in reflection i used fall off, and in fall off a raytrace

not that difficuld :d

[TheHenk]

Thanks Radarhead! I´ll try that!

//TheHenk

[LittleJohn]

Here`s my ``version`` for silk...Pretty easy and good results...

First render...Default scanline...

[LittleJohn]

And here`s how it looks with brazil...(with the default max shader)...

[Dragot]

STILL WORKING ON A SKIN SHADER:grr:

I NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GIVE IT A WAXY LOOK.

im useing Maya and MentalRay please help if you can?

anyway what do you think?:???:

[Incitatus]

It looks good. But the lighting is a bit to even and too bright to really tell. You don't have any dark areas.

[instinct]

Just a quick something then, not really hard to do, but i likes the look:

http://www.open3d.co.uk/blob.jpg

[Aurorae]

Funky brazil stuff :p

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/aurorae/Matreials/cool.jpg

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/aurorae/Matreials/funkay%20stuff.jpg

Proud of that one, its just one glass sphere :dance:

[Dilli]

I like the glow of the sphere in your first pic. Looks really nice to me :)

What kind of material is it? Glowworm?

[Aurorae]

yes, its all credit to splutterfish though, just turn on indirect illumination and you'll get it. I'd advise anyone to get the demo of brazil.

[Radarhead]

LittleJohn: Beautiful silk texture!!

[neo_mosher_zion]

little late but thanks DD

is it just me or is brazil THE best for making textures and stuff?
thats the way it seems just by readin this thread?
if you disagree what do you think is the best?

[Incitatus]

Originally posted by Radarhead
LittleJohn: Beautiful silk texture!!

I agree I'd like to see the mat tree on that one

[Mav88]

Hey guys love all the stuff posted and its nice seeing everyone taking part, novices and the pro's. A little while ago i found a wb site with a ZIP download of a series of web pages that showed various aspects of brazil, inc sss, photons etc. Very good thing to have and play with. Unfortunatly i have lost the zip file due to a re-install and just wondered if any one had the link to the site. Would help everyone i think with this thread and general 3d scenes.

Any ideas. Ta in advance

dave

[Jazzy]

Just out of interest how many Brazil materials should there be ? After reading some posts in various threads i have a feeling i don't have all of them.

Would it be possible for someone to list them all for me ?

Off topic: Radarhead, have you changed your avatar slightly ? It looks more intimidating with that red/orange light emitting from it :D

[Radarhead]

Jazzy: Look at the screen cap for Brazil mats. Under Brazil Advanced you have Default, Car Paint, Ghost, Glow Worm, Lambert, Oren-Nayar, Velvet, and wax.

My avatar is an old rendering using idirect illumination so that the gold reflected onto the ground. A slightly different angle than my last avatar.

[scott99]

Originally posted by Radarhead
Jazzy: Look at the screen cap for Brazil mats. Under Brazil Advanced you have Default, Car Paint, Ghost, Glow Worm, Lambert, Oren-Nayar, Velvet, and wax.

My avatar is an old rendering using idirect illumination so that the gold reflected onto the ground. A slightly different angle than my last avatar.

dang... knew i was missing something since i only have the "public test version" all thats on mine is brazil test mat hehehe

[sarN]

like the new av radar :D
yeha we definitely have to send these to aurorae to compile these!
all of them are wicked cool
great job everyone :D
i havent done anything in a really long time lol

[FireJin3]

Some pretty nice materials going around here:D

[Aurorae]

yep, please do send them, Im eager to see some of these myself. I'll do two separate versions, one for max and one for brazil :D

remember, its andrew.charlton@ntlworld.com :)

[Jazzy]

Thank you very much Radarhead for compiling that list, as it turns out i do have all the materials you mentioned. Except for some on the screen capture, but i'm assuming they're extra plug-ins you got from somewhere.

I guess i didn't look hard enough .... sorry.

[rubberduck]

Really nice textures/mats here, too bad I can't use them in LightWave:( :)

[Brin]

Ahh madam I see The problem,
Your Teapot has eaten some primatives.


Not sure where I got this mat from,

Aurorae: I have sent my two feeble mats to you.

[neo_mosher_zion]

a little dark cant really see it too well

[Brin]

here is a brighter one, It doesnt look right without a black background.

[Aurorae]

Originally posted by Brin
Ahh madam I see The problem,
Your Teapot has eaten some primatives.


Not sure where I got this mat from,

Aurorae: I have sent my two feeble mats to you.

I got it buddy :)

That was the first of hopefully many! Keep em coming :)

[mastern00b]

Here is my first attempt at the pearl color changing paint. You know, it changes from white to a pearl color depending on the angle you look at. The effect is a little subtle though.. hmmmm


http://www.rserv.com/images/pearlpaint1-web.jpg

[nalhcal]

Is the pearl colour done by falloff?

[mastern00b]

Yes it is. I can post the .mat file if needed. Just a Brazil advanced material with falloff in the color slot and falloff in the reflec slot.

You could do the same thing without brazil though.

[Brin]

Hay mastern00b, that is the exact material I need for my clio model, I have spent ages trying to create it!

please share it, it may encourage me to have another go at my Car!


Brin

[mastern00b]

Sure thing man. I havn't gotten a non-brazil version worked up quite yet but, I did post a link to the brazil version below. Should be able to open this mat file in max and use the material.

Brazil Pearl Mat (http://www.rserv.com/images/brazil-pearl.mat)


If you need a max only version let me know and I will work on it when I get off of work tonight.

[Brin]

woo hoo, going to try a test render in a little while, Thanks :)

[Radarhead]

Just because I could. Showing off Brazil.

[Aurorae]

Gradient in the self illumination slot?
With 2nd illumination?

Maybe, im just guessing :)

[mastern00b]

My guess is a Glow Worm material with a custom gradient in the Incandescense slot.

am I close? :)

[Radarhead]

Yes, it's glow worm. It wasn't meant to be a secret. LOL!

[mastern00b]

I just like to figure things out, that is all.. :). That is something I didn't think about trying before seeing you do it... :).

[Aurorae]

well, I just tried a gradient in self illumination slot, and I think its rather nice :)

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/aurorae/ooo.jpg

(No glow worm)

[Radarhead]

The gradient is a cool effect. :)
This isn't a mat test but I had no where else to show it. Sometimes I goof off and make strange things.

[Radarhead]

This is a pretty cool effect too. The light is being focused through the glass sphere.

[NoJo]

sweet dude :p nice effect...great work everybody else too ;)

[Brin]

Hey mastern00b, here is a render of my car using your mat, I wont post it here cos it will brake the flow of these cool images,

:Clio pics (http://www.bj001a7775.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/show.html)

RH, that image with the ball focusing the light isnt bad :eek: !

This self illumination stuff looks quite interesting, I remember trying it on some Max tutes about radiiosity, the render times where stupid!

Just curious, What sort of times are you guys getting on these images?

-----Edit------

ps, most of my site has dead links, I havn't used it for a while!
I have spent most of this eavning trying to get dreamweaver installed and remebering how to use it!

[Aurorae]

Took me just under 30 seconds to render the self illumination one

[RickStefani]

You know, I am going to stop looking at this if you do not stop making us maya users feel Inadequate "EDD". haha. That looks so cool. You know how hard that is to simulate in Maya. Things gust do not work the same:( .

[Brin]

LOL Rick, I have max and I cant do it either. It is good to see how it should/can be done though. Inspiration for us all.

[RickStefani]

I know. I do love to see it. I am just kidding. At least if you get it you can. They do not make it for Maya at all.

[Aerics]

Radarhead, can you explain plz how you make the puzzle. I thinks its a thing wich is quickly to do, but with my skill now i have now idear how.

[Radarhead]

Awwww, c'mon guyz. I'm not trying to make you feel bad. :)
Aerics: I was wondering if someone was going to ask about the puzzle. I used the exact same technique that I used for this neon signature. Before I tell you, let's see if anyone knows how I did it. (Yes, that's a challenge.) It's really not a big secret.

[Aerics]

oki, is think you have draw it with splines. You have use a blueprint or something like this, becaus the puzzle looks well if you draw it only with you head. How lond do you model on this?

[Radarhead]

The puzzle took me about 5 minutes to make. Hint: I didn't draw a single spline and I used no plug-ins.

[Aerics]

And why you don`t explain me with what or how you have make it? You are a little god of 3D for me, so i hope you explain it. I want to learn so many how i can to get a better skill.

[Radarhead]

LOL! I will tell you but first I want to see if anyone else has used this method first.

[Aerics]

kk, so i wait :).

Do you have some tips how you learn the worl of 3D so fast. What you have do all the time to get a so nice skill in all things, moddeling, texturing etc.

[3dsMaxer]

Radarhead did you use diplacement and booleons or something?

[RickStefani]

Is I an opacity map with thickness and planar projection? Don't tell me that is one plane?

[Radarhead]

Ok, ok... it may be a seldom used tool and many may be unaware of it in Max: You can import Adobe Illustrator paths into Max and it becomes a spline. For the puzzle, I created the puzzle outline in Photoshop and exported the path as an Illustrator path. I then imported the path into Max. A little extrusion and an oppropriate bump map and the illusion is complete. :)

[Aerics]

Yea, thx for this. And can you answer of my question some post up plz.

[Radarhead]

About how I learned 3D so fast? I don't know. I'm a traditional artist and that may have helped me figure things out a bit quicker. Just keep at it and you will get better too! :)

[novoAlias]

well, you learn something new everyday and with radarhead you learn something every 5 minutes, if he will tell you :p. that paths thing is good so thanks :D maybe i will get a good mat sometime...

[Glorious100]

Heres my litle contribute. Just a simple brazil toon mat.

http://users.pandora.be/glorious/images/G100Mattest1.jpg

[RickStefani]

Edd is great at it but I also think that he has a lot more time to put into it than the rest of us. He might have been at it for a year but I am willing to bet he has more hours logged than most of us. Not saying you are not great because you are. Being somewhat of a traditional artist too ( I think, not as good as avatar but I can draw) I think it helps.

My hat is oof to your skill and knowledge.

[Tom-3DT]

Great thread you have going here peeps, just plugged it on the forntpage www.3dtotal.com :)

Cheers

Tom

[Mormegil]

and here's some of my materials :)
max procedurals + scanline

http://www.msuchy.3d.pl/mor/materials.jpg

[dmxdxl]

Brazil subsurface scattering, and a painted texture, obviously not mapped right but take a look,..