DWIV - Chris Skinner - Demon Lord

chrisskinner · 27-03-2009, 11:47 AM

After looking through all the great entries for this I thought I would give it a try and hopefully learn alot along the way. My wife and I are expecting a baby soon so this might be the last chance for a while that I get time to spend on my own artwork, hopefully I'll see it through to the end!...

I've decided to go for a Demon Lord, not worked out much of the backstory yet but have a few ideas in my head.

Quick question for you guys, when I move onto modelling is it best to start with a high res sculpt then retopo it? Or start with a low poly base mesh? Not got that much experience with this kind of stuff.

Here are my initial thumbnails, not much to go on yet but C&C's more than welcome.

aUGIS · 27-03-2009, 11:48 AM

I like 7

kuugaman · 27-03-2009, 12:23 PM

Nice thumbnails! I like no 7 as demon lord =) I usually will start sketching on paper or sometimes i just do a quick sculpt on zbrush for visualizing the idea. Once i'm happy with it then i prefer to do the low poly first and then bring it to zbrush for detailing =)

chrisskinner · 27-03-2009, 02:54 PM

Thanks for the comments guys. I guess it's the stance that works well on 7, looks like he has the most authority out of the other thumbnails.

Here's a few more ideas, think I might try a couple more concentrating on the gesture then start a bit of detailing.

Warbringerd · 27-03-2009, 02:58 PM

still #7 from the first page.

Illusidation · 27-03-2009, 03:57 PM

Is that that sketch program again?

Puckducker · 27-03-2009, 04:00 PM

7 is really strong, I'd definitely like to seem that one fleshed out more.

Holo · 27-03-2009, 04:38 PM

Agreed, No. 7 Is excellent, i wouldnt change a thing about it, well, except making it 3d of course

Warlock 279 · 27-03-2009, 05:48 PM

#7 from the first batch for sure, but failing that #3 from the second could be interesting.

chrisskinner · 28-03-2009, 04:57 PM

Cheers for the feedback chaps! I'll make a start on developing 7 and see how I get on.

Illusidation - No these weren't done in Alchemy, they were done in Photoshop just using a standard brush as well as copying areas and scaling, flipping and mirroring them etc.

JuST · 28-03-2009, 07:19 PM

Good decision. 7's my favorite, too.

chrisskinner · 30-03-2009, 09:00 AM

Had chance to do a couple more sketches, just starting to think how the guy might look. Think these are a bit too mainstream at the moment but will keep at it.

C&C's more than welcome.

chrisskinner · 30-03-2009, 09:02 AM

Started my first bit of modelling. Will probably use this for a few paint overs before starting any sculpts.

Cordero · 30-03-2009, 08:37 PM

Hi! Really good concepts! I like the one on the right hand, because his head says to me that "Hey, i'm a professional. Don't mess with me, or i eat your soul through your bare skin..." calm, but scary as hell.. absolute winner for me

would like to see that in fight

chrisskinner · 31-03-2009, 01:28 PM

Thanks for the feedback Cordero. I'll try and experiment with a few heads once I get some kind of mesh to sculpt with, which is what I've been doing.

Here's a body fleshed out in zbrush, doesn't match thumbnail 7 that much at the moment but hopefully some sculpting, detailing and posing will bring it more in line with that. Decided to stick a tail on him in traditional demon fashion. I'm hoping my detailing might make him look a bit different tho.

27-03-2009, 11:47 AM	#1
chrisskinner Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sheffield, UK Posts: 221 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	DWIV - Chris Skinner - Demon Lord After looking through all the great entries for this I thought I would give it a try and hopefully learn alot along the way. My wife and I are expecting a baby soon so this might be the last chance for a while that I get time to spend on my own artwork, hopefully I'll see it through to the end!... I've decided to go for a Demon Lord, not worked out much of the backstory yet but have a few ideas in my head. Quick question for you guys, when I move onto modelling is it best to start with a high res sculpt then retopo it? Or start with a low poly base mesh? Not got that much experience with this kind of stuff. Here are my initial thumbnails, not much to go on yet but C&C's more than welcome. Attached Images Last edited by chrisskinner; 01-04-2009 at 09:30 PM..

27-03-2009, 02:54 PM	#4
chrisskinner Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sheffield, UK Posts: 221 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	Thanks for the comments guys. I guess it's the stance that works well on 7, looks like he has the most authority out of the other thumbnails. Here's a few more ideas, think I might try a couple more concentrating on the gesture then start a bit of detailing. Attached Images

27-03-2009, 04:38 PM	#8
Holo Rusty Wireframe Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Maple, Ontario, Canada Posts: 616 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	Agreed, No. 7 Is excellent, i wouldnt change a thing about it, well, except making it 3d of course __________________ "Despite the High cost of Living, It Remains Popular" -Mark. K. Lightwave User VV -- DW IV -- VV http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?t=65851

27-03-2009, 05:48 PM	#9
Warlock 279 Stealing your polygons! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 11°19′N, 142°15′E Posts: 1,048 Thanks: 1 Thanked 24 Times in 23 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 9	#7 from the first batch for sure, but failing that #3 from the second could be interesting. __________________ * Lightwave * User

30-03-2009, 09:00 AM	#12
chrisskinner Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sheffield, UK Posts: 221 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	Had chance to do a couple more sketches, just starting to think how the guy might look. Think these are a bit too mainstream at the moment but will keep at it. C&C's more than welcome. Attached Images

27-03-2009, 11:48 AM	#2
aUGIS Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Vilnius, Lithuania Posts: 159 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	I like 7

27-03-2009, 12:23 PM	#3
kuugaman Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 21 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Nice thumbnails! I like no 7 as demon lord =) I usually will start sketching on paper or sometimes i just do a quick sculpt on zbrush for visualizing the idea. Once i'm happy with it then i prefer to do the low poly first and then bring it to zbrush for detailing =) __________________ My DWIV WIP http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread...683#post700683

27-03-2009, 02:58 PM	#5
Warbringerd Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Courtice, Ontario, Canada Posts: 150 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 2	still #7 from the first page.

27-03-2009, 03:57 PM	#6
Illusidation Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Is that that sketch program again?

27-03-2009, 04:00 PM	#7
Puckducker Da blue bus is calling us Join Date: May 2005 Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Posts: 1,297 Thanks: 0 Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 8	7 is really strong, I'd definitely like to seem that one fleshed out more. __________________ The only way to define the limitations of our existence is to go beyond them. CURRENT WIP: DW5-3D-Götterdämmerung -Puckducker LATEST COMPLETED PROJECT: DWIV - 3D - Puckducker - Dark Matter

28-03-2009, 04:57 PM	#10
chrisskinner Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sheffield, UK Posts: 221 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	Cheers for the feedback chaps! I'll make a start on developing 7 and see how I get on. Illusidation - No these weren't done in Alchemy, they were done in Photoshop just using a standard brush as well as copying areas and scaling, flipping and mirroring them etc.

28-03-2009, 07:19 PM	#11
JuST Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 465 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 2	Good decision. 7's my favorite, too.

30-03-2009, 09:02 AM	#13
chrisskinner Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sheffield, UK Posts: 221 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	Started my first bit of modelling. Will probably use this for a few paint overs before starting any sculpts. Attached Images

30-03-2009, 08:37 PM	#14
Cordero Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Hungary Posts: 1,335 Thanks: 5 Thanked 16 Times in 15 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 6	Hi! Really good concepts! I like the one on the right hand, because his head says to me that "Hey, i'm a professional. Don't mess with me, or i eat your soul through your bare skin..." calm, but scary as hell.. absolute winner for me would like to see that in fight

31-03-2009, 01:28 PM	#15
chrisskinner Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sheffield, UK Posts: 221 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	Thanks for the feedback Cordero. I'll try and experiment with a few heads once I get some kind of mesh to sculpt with, which is what I've been doing. Here's a body fleshed out in zbrush, doesn't match thumbnail 7 that much at the moment but hopefully some sculpting, detailing and posing will bring it more in line with that. Decided to stick a tail on him in traditional demon fashion. I'm hoping my detailing might make him look a bit different tho. Attached Images

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